The Terribly Bent Viola Bridge and how to keep bridges straight
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- Insider secrets and stories from the Master Violinmaker and restorer
Master Violin Maker Olaf Grawert explains why violin, viola and cello bridges bend and what you can do to prevent it.
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We need a olaf master class
*an Olaf offered for learning
@@WhatAboutTheBee ...
@@allegrovivace6806 was thinking same thing but some people have to be grammer natzi
nazi*
An olaf
Olaf must be so rich to be able to hire so many different high quality actors
'Violas and Violins are the same'
-Olaf the Violin maker, 2020
Violas are an alto violin ; )
Olaf the Viola maker 😅
S A C R I L E G I O U S
Well, tbf Violino just means small Viola.
@@TheVoitel no, violin is a treble viola 😆
I was wondering if I client ever walked on you recording those skits.
I have had people walk past... And neighbours walk on on recording 😀
But no clients yet...
I get a few strange looks
"violas and violins are the same"
*twoset has left the chat*
100% accurate depiction of Twoset right here
"Violas and violins are the same" :-D
Not quite - a viola will burn longer
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*_the way that bridge was bent looked horrendous_*
I have seen the same bent bridge on the violin.
I think on viola it is even more dangerous - bigger instrument, more tension on the strings, more energy when bridge snaps.
Man, you should have seen the bridge on my first violin. It was a junker someone gave me one day that had been beaten to hell and had a bridge at least three times worse than that. I loved that violin and learned on it anyway, lol. When I could afford a violin that was playable, a sweet Bellafina Corelli ML10, I had to relearn because I had been used to playing on a horrendously warped bridge lol. It's amazing how much of a difference it makes.
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Yep, Any worse and it would have fallen over, which could have damaged the top-plate
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker how long dose it take for a brige to bend like that!? Did thay not see it was bending!
Im curious about Olaf's wig collection hahahah
Olaf's musician characters are great!
You are a genius Olaf I would love to study with such a great professional, plus the sense of humour is brilliant.
Hekavalon 1 day ago?
@@TheAsianTree wHaTTTTTT
_illuminati_
lmao 1 day ago
No I'm a professional magician and for sighting the future is my business.
Some interesting folks live in Olaf's village. Must be a family, they all have the same hair.
Take care of your bridges. If they snap, ti's terrifying. Trust me. And no, mine wasn't crooked like that, but it was a cheap bridge and I suspect cracked or already weak because it snapped at the narrowest point without any warning mid playing. 0/10, would not recommend.
One time a double bass one time during class exploded! The. Tail gut and brige were not well taken care of so yeah. Edit: spelling ps thanks for the like it reminded me to edit it
@@liamthoralexanderspencer4684 Oh dear.......oh my........oh no.......oh
@@liamthoralexanderspencer4684 did you already correct the spelling?
Snapped one on a 100$ vso... I just placed it together w NO glue and restrung the vso... played just as good as it ever did...😄
"sometimes I just need to take my own advice."
-Olaf, 2020
I'm a Flutist watching this at 3am 😂. Welp, the more you know I guess 🤓
im a pianist trying to fall asleep but i just found olafs channel from autoplay from ray chen so i will be watching tjis for the next hour
Oh, today we will improve the sound of a viola! :D
My guess: it is original baroque viola with original baroque bridge. Only slightly used. Original strings attached. Bridge was never straightened. Maybe some ghosts live inside 👻 . I hope Olaf knows what is he doing.
I'm a bit worried.
@@luborkloda8903 The next video could be how to straighten my viola bow :D Only slightly used (as a garden stick).
Well that ain’t gonna happen
ONE DAY AGO?!
STOP
THIS IS ANAMALOUS
SOMEONE GET SOME OFFICERS FROM THE SCP FOUNDATION HERE
One time I was playing viola with a piano quartet. The cellist was very... well, mediocre.. or bad really. I mentioned to her one rehearsal that her bridge was leaning and needed to be straightened out. I offered to assist her with this as I've done it multiple times. She didn't trust me with her instrument. So she went and de-tuned her cello, straightened the bridge, and started to tune it again. Of course as she tuned it back up, the bridge started to lean again, but she wasn't bothering to straighten it out as she tuned it. By the time it was back in tune, the bridge was leaning just as much as before. I wonder if she ever did get her bridge straightened out.
When he moved the bridge so easily it gave me anxiety
I'm a guitar luthier. Really incredible how different our techniques are.
I guess guitar luthiery is just such a comparably new field
Guitars (acoustic) are a pain if they develop a shrinkage crack in either plates, but at least violin family of instruments can be opened to deal with it.
*_"london bridge is falling down, falling down"_*
CELLO bridge is falling down, falling down...
You've mentioned the weight on a violin from the pressure of the strings. Do you know what the weight is on the top of a cello?
Olaf, I have a sort of off topic question - do a series of string instruments made from the same piece of wood, or even the same type of wood, sound better together, e.g. in the context. of a string quartet?
Should have watched this earlier...i tried to fix the bridge on my violin and then the bridge collapsed and the sound post came off...
Omg putting your thumbs together, that's genius! Other videos I've watched, they use their thumb and pointer finger on just one side of the bridge and it's a lot less controlled. Top-notch advice once again! Wish I had known this 11 years ago when I first got my current violin, well I know now!
I am not sure how feasible this would be but I think it would be great to see a video series where you go through the full production of a violin. I think it would be very interesting and insightful to see a violin come to life from its most basic building blocks.
For those who don't know, the graphite acts as a solid lubricant, the carbon atoms arranged in sheets have weak attraction between sheet layers and therefore slide over each other.
I love your vids! Keep making awesome content!
Cello bridge straightening very helpful. Thanks
I don't play any string instrument but I love to see your videos.
I will save money to buy one of yours even that means 10 years (I need to work first).
I would like to see that bridge after it is removed from the viola, to see how much of the warp remains after removing the string tension.
Olaf: "I am really sorry, I am going to have to replace this bridge"
Customer: "Well I trust you."
Olaf: "How about we start by replacing the viola with an instrument?"
RIP Violists
The viola is the banjo of the symphony world. What’s the difference between a banjo and an onion?
No one cry’s when you cut up a banjo.
Some viola player disliked the video before releasing ROFL
Vid idea: how many pounds of pressure to break a viola
I think viola can't be broken. I think it is made from solid wood like a stump.
ro fo yeah but it’s hollow just like a violin, so with the weight the top plate will get crushed
@@TheAsianTree oh, I'm dissappointed now :)
ro fo wait, you weren’t joking?
All you have to do to determine that is find out how many pressure all strings combined exert when tuned to standard tuning. That's the amount of pressure the instrument was designed to take with maybe some extra breathing room.
I recently had my bridge changed. Based on the makers mark on the bridge and when it last passed through the maker's workshop, I estimated it to be about 65 years old. Unbeknownst to me, the bridge had developed a crack that spanned its entire width, nd I have had the violin for about 15 years! With a new bridge, adjustments to the tailpiece position, the violin sounds significantly better.
Premiering at 5:30am PST? I'll still be sleeping :'(
Will watch when I wake up!
And I need my violin bridge to straighten up too, dang it
This channel deserves more support, it's really educational, I'm really learning from you Olaf, greetings from México!
Omg this Channel deserve more subscribers!!!!! I would love to have someone like Olaf to be my neighbor
The cello part was very helpful.
I had no idea you had you own channel! Love your way of explaining really simple, I enjoy classical music and I've learning thanks to TwoSet and You! Lets hope the best for that poor instrument you just fixed! Have lovely day, Saludos desde Venezuela!
There's me using my kpop photocards to check the bridge. Finally a good way to use it🤣
😁
with that kinda hair, I would've thought he wants it flattened so he can hit all the strings at once...
Let your son bayden ride his roller skates to school please 😂
What about double bass? Is it more or less the same as the cello?
I was thinking the same thing and I found some very helpful videos by googling it
Simon Vazquez-Carr Thanks man!
Ooof, that’s a massive bridge! Probably can’t sit it on the lap. Maybe he would have to sit over the bass, like a horse. 🐎
Viola gang represent!
.... And funny intro aside... very helpful! Thanks Olaf! 🎻😃
My number is f444....4..4...2 hahaha!!!
Why I'm watching this?
I don't even own a bowed instrument.
IMHO crooked viola bridge can be repaired easily. Just boil it 5 minutes in hot water, then bend it to opposite direction, let it dry and put it back. Better then new :)
Cut bridge straight. Flat bridge viola have four times better probability hit the correct note.
It won't be the same... It will bend more easily once it has been crooked. Also it won't sound the same... but it is a good emergency fix
@@rofo2107 or just remove. viola without bridge as zero probability of hitting wrong note.
0:31 OOF! 😐
Hello Omar,
Thank you for your vidéos.
My bridge was bent.
I steam iron it on a flat table.
It is perfectly flat by now.
Did you try this ?
I have an idea! Maybe all the lingling wannabes can stop it with the negative viola commentary for one video.
You guys are seriously making me want to leave the twoset family. It’s obnoxious. If you’re going to crowd into every classical-music related video on the planet, could you at least leave the kindergarten-level teasing to just the actual two-set videos? Not asking for responses. Asking for my sanity, and your reputation.
Now we got the answer who disliked the video before releasing :D
Negative viola commentary ? Oh c'mon man who said anything negative about viola here ? :)
C'mon! You've already got the Japanese Emperor on your side. Now nobody can make fun of violas anymore?
Can I make fun of other musicians? E.g. how do you know who's knocking on your door?
Rock Drummer: gets faster with every knock.
Classic Timpani: two knocks, then sits back and reads a book.
Guitarist: Blues rhythm with frequent mistakes.
Pianist: uses his fingertips to knock on every surface. Hums "Für Elise" while doing it.
Choir Singer: tone gets lower over time.
Violin: tries to tune the door before he starts.
Soloist or lead singer: continues to knock when the door is open. Expects you to applaud.
Conductor: criticises how badly everybody is knocking.
Double bass: one knock every 5 seconds and barely audible over all the other noise.
Sound Technician: when you open the door he shouts "don't mess with the audio setup!"
Non musician: all the musicians beg him to stop.
Ales, you knew this was coming - right? But seriously - as someone who tried and failed to learn an instrument I have a lot of respect for you guys, I especially admire how viola players cope with all this joking while having to play a very difficult instrument.
I mean hey, look on the bright side, the violas are acknowledged more than most other instruments are
Feel proud about the spotlight shined on you, don't let it weigh you down
Heck, twoset even made a video for viola gang
This drove me nuts for a while but when I first heard your character’s (Hubert) voice it reminded me of someone. Finally after 6 months I figured it out. Hubert’s voice sounds like Stewie’s voice, the baby from the animated show Family Guy. Specifically his voice in the first couple seasons. His voice changed a bit in the later seasons.
Thank you, Olaf, appreciate your sense of humor. I first found out about you from those two Asian guys. They are also a hoot. Sometimes string (orchestra) players take themselves way too seriously. Today I'm installing a Viola bridge from a blank on a 5 string acoustic electric similar to a Zeta. Do you ever use a bridge jack for this task? I live in the western side of America, too far away to visit your shop and meet you but thought I would say "Hi, and thanks."
"Violins and violas are the same" , well, twoset is coming for you! 😈😈
They know where you live!
😂
I have a question; maybe you could consider it a video suggestion? Entirely up to you, of course.
What (if any) structural differences are there between violins, violas, cellos, etc. which make it so they're not just different-sized versions of the same instrument?
I've been wondering because, like, there's miniature versions of various instruments for different ages of players and whatnot, so there obviously has to be something that makes it so a miniature viola, for example, can't be considered/used-as a mini violin-with-different-strings or something. Or something that makes it so you couldn't just put cello strings on a smaller-sized double bass and use it that way.
Or could you do that? Could you put violin strings on, like, a 3/4 size viola, or 3/4 viola strings on a regular violin? (I know the size difference between violin and viola is probably not 3/4, but I'm not sure how else to phrase my question to make it clear what I'm asking.)
OLAF : THE VIOLA AND THE VIOLIN IS THE SAME
EDDY : WTF the viola is a shit
sir Olaf can you give us some advice for broken rosin please, thank you for sharing your luthier wisdom with us.
I was using the square wrong.. I had it literally where the bridge goes, which is one long constant curve from scroll to endpin. Only after I watched this did I realize the square / card / whatever measuring tool you're using goes on the purfling. Compared to my eyeballing method.. this was spot-on. I get the same results either way, by eyeballing against my blinds or using a business cards. Thanks for showing us how it's done, Olaf!
I had my violin in storage for a long while somewhere humid and it bent nearly to the point of breaking. Being very far from a violin repairer (both geographically and personally) I soaked it in boiling water, let it dry under weights and put it back. Then I spilled tea on it and had to do it again. The strings are chewing through the bridge a bit quick now, but in about a year I should be able to get a proper professional repair.
I'm so sorry Olaf. I repent for my violin sins 🙏
Undoubtedly one of my favorite channels!
Thank you for this very well normative video from a timid beginner violinist
Remember, using the busyness card of a tree removal agency is particularly effective as it triggers the Post traumatic stress of being felled the first time in the maple wood of the bridge. This helps to motivate it not to fall again. 😂
Borrowed a viola with a bridge almost as bent as the first viola in the video earlier this year. It sounded amazing even though the bridge looked as it did. I'm curious how it would've sounded w a fresher setup
I haven't played in years, and I live wit ha bit of humidity... Now I'm afraid to see what's happened in the case.
"because violin and viola are the same"
*relationship with twoset gone
thanks for the tip Olaf :D I fixed my violin bridge that was slightly tilting
Shared this with my cello playing daughter
Olaf, this is so funny and fun to watch thanks for the laugh.
Olaf :
Makes this video
Me :
Instantly goes and get my violin and a set square
Olaf, youre a treasure but you absolutely overestimate my bravery in handling an instrument
So if I’m constantly changing my tuning a step down and then step up there’s a good chance my bridge would get bent in the process
What if your having this problem on a bass would you do the same process or no?🤔🤔
OLAF : THE VIOLA AND THE VIOLIN IS THE SAME
TWOSET VIOLIN : LEAVING THE CHAT
I tried to straigten by bridge way before seeing this video, I snapped it in half. But when I replaced it with a new one, the violin sounded better...
My violin bridge just fell out suddenly while I was playing one day.
the number is made of fours only and in chinese 4 means death. in this case it symbolizes the death of the viola bridge
Have any of the people you parody on this channel ever seen your videos of you clowning on them? Did they think it was funny, if so? I personally find it hilarious
New to violin, just got to the point of not sounding like a crime against nature... i have been scared to play it since i noticed the bridge has quite a lean and i wasnt sure if it was from it hitting the case or something else i was doing.
Glad to see its normal, but just something i have to watch for in the future. Ill take it to this old bearded guy who smells like wood and see if its past the point of no return.
Thank you!!
Thanks! I have the same problem. Now i know how to prevent it! Thank you!
if you have a violin and don't know how to tilt the bridge straight again, should you even be allowed to play the violin? many Violins purchased by mail order wont even come with the bridge set on the instrument, don't tell me they take it to a luthier to have them put the bridge on for them.
I thought he was going to "donate" the violin to you for repair, never to be seen again.
I wish I had seen this earlier. The bridge on my cello and violin are bent to a worrisome shape.
27 kg ~~~ 60 pounds, not just 50 pounds ... 2.2 pounds to a kg
I just love the wig skits. Great sense of humor.
That bridge is still straighter than me.
Why exactly are we drawing on the strings now?
What's the graphite in the string grooves for?
hi olaf is it the same process on a double bass? om a beginner
This is so helpful! Thanks for sharing...
You know it’s gonna be a good video when you see that cool wig.
What's the chinrest on the bent viola?
ofc hubert plays viola
Aw! I love the humor in this video, Olaf!!
Your shirts keep getting better!
Hi Olaf, I have a question to ask you... Sorry that's it's not about today's video... My violin's sound post have a little bit crack on it, I'm wondering how much do a good soundpost usually cost? (AUD is fine) And also how do we choose a soundpost that suits my violin? Because my violin is a new violin (maybe made for about 6 years I think), and there is also no label in the violin so I don't know how to choose the soundpost.... Please help me!!!
Is it actually crack or is it just normal cut from soundpost tool ?
if it is some 2-5mm long cut in the center of the soundpost it is perfectly normal.
@@rofo2107 I don't think it is a cut as it is not cut beautifully. I think it's around 1-2 mm? I'm not good at estimating
@@rofo2107 Anyway thanks for your help!!!
I guess it is a mark of soundpost tool as well. Soundpost usually don't crack, especially on relatively new instruments. Sometimes marks after soundpost tool may look ugly or in the worst scenario the soundpost can be chipped by soundpost tool from the factory. Better to consult with local luthier.
@@luborkloda8903 Yes, I think I'll go to a music workshop after the exam... But there's really rare luthier, or no luthier in my city... This is the worst. Thank you!
OLAF WHY YOU NO QUARANTINE
YOU NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM YOUR OTHER SELF IN CASE IF YOU INFECT YOUR OTHER SELF OR VISE VERSA
had to read this thrice
@@ryantristan9264 :D
Master Olaf, in warped bridges like the viola shown I have seen some luthiers re-straighten the bridge using the steam method, I even did this once to a friends cello bridge. Would you recommend this method or would you suggest having the bridge replaced?
He wrote to a different guy that once it bends once, it will bend easier in the future. Plus the sound transfer isn’t as good
This is the scariest thing ever..
I would love to get a viola centric video. Especially antique related. I've been looking to stop renting and buy a really good quality one and I was told that they were quite rare by the luthier I saw.
*sees VOLA in title*
*scoffs*
HI Olaf I need your help, I was tunning my violin and my bridge collapsed now my bridge is slightly cracked should I take it to a Luthier and change it ?
Yes, unfortunately if a bridge is cracked it needs to be replaced.
Hope everything goes well and you can get back into playing again quickly.
For violin, viola, and cello, the distance between the fingerboard/tailpiece and the bridge is small enough for the hand and thumb to span, but what would I do if I wanted to straighten a bass bridge? The distance between the tailpiece/fingerboard and bridge is just barely too big for my hands to span.
I know!
I would loosen the strings to straighten the bridge.
Do you live in australia