You got that right! When The Supremes played The Copacabana in New York in 1965, he was so desperate to get the "important" people, he allegedly paid the Liquor Tab for some folks, there was even rumours that The Mafia had an ownership and Smokey Robinson hated playing there. You did Three Shows on Saturday Night, 8:00 PM, 11:00 PM, and 2:00 AM. You didn't have a life.
Her condescension for his job is quite hypocritical since she lives off his money. It may not be morally pure but it takes some skill to do whatever the hell they do otherwise everyone would do it.
@@bookerjones8123 I read the Book Version and Tom Wolfe was Straight A Gangsta when Reverend Reginald Bacon refused to give back a $350.000 Check to Two Young Men who represented the Business Affairs of a Church which was a Donation. I also loved A Man In Full. Gene Hackman could have played Charlie Crocker who is in denial over the fact that he's 1.3 Billion in debt.
@@bookerjones8123 Thanks for agreeing with me. Tom Hanks was all wrong for the part. He's too nice a guy. If there was one thing that I noticed is that him and Dominick Dunne (RIP) are brilliant at doing Movies about the fabulously wealthy. While Tom Wolfe does his Novels in the form of a Satire, Dominick shows how "cruel" folks can be when they are Rich. Did you ever read A Season In Purgatory, that was heavy.
@@laminage No, I haven't read that one, I've meant to and never got around to it. I've read a lot of Dunne's nonfiction essays, on OJ, of course, and his daughter's murder and other cases; I haven't gotten to much of his fiction, although I've read An Inconvenient Woman, People Like Us; he was a very good, passionate writer.
no he doesn't execute trades. he's most likely in the debt capital markets group. this group essentially helps companies issue bonds and is part of the investment banking division. they work with the traders to get the bonds sold but they do not trade. they keep some of the commission from the debt issuance.
I believe the character of the book is an institutional bond salesman. An investment banker works with the client to issue the bonds and the salesperson finds another client that’s willing to buy them…he brokers those deals.
They talked about cutting this scene, but the head of the studio loved it and insisted it be left in, so they cut a scene where Sherman and his wife go to the opera.
The old man wasn't implying there was a golden age of blameless and harmless benevolence in finance capital. But there was an eye of financiers, bankers, traders on results translating in the real economy rather than playing with numbers and even destroying companies in cases of a lot of private equity activity.
Changed to 'trader', which apparently is what the character was supposed to be. It's a bit confusing since he changes the subject to what bonds are issued for, while she makes it sound as if he executes trades for commission.
Film not too believable...more waspy types would've been better.....ralph bellamy (trading places) would have done nicely as the father, and Hanks just doesn't cut it as the 30 - something bond trader wiz from Yale....Kelsey Grammer would be better, maybe bebe neuwirth as his aging society wife...the movie misses the subtle satire of the book entirely...de Palma turns it into a light sit- com...its not
Also Donald Moffat was in the updated version of Ordeal By Innocence based on the Novel by Agatha Christie. It had a VC Andrews Vibe to it. Boy talk about being dissed in front of Fam. Judy did it to get back at Sherman for cheating on her.
“Many a man has sold his soul for those crumbs.”
LOL!!! That’s both dark, hilarious and profound all at the same time!
You got that right! When The Supremes played The Copacabana in New York in 1965, he was so desperate to get the "important" people, he allegedly paid the Liquor Tab for some folks, there was even rumours that The Mafia had an ownership and Smokey Robinson hated playing there. You did Three Shows on Saturday Night, 8:00 PM, 11:00 PM, and 2:00 AM. You didn't have a life.
Her condescension for his job is quite hypocritical since she lives off his money. It may not be morally pure but it takes some skill to do whatever the hell they do otherwise everyone would do it.
In the book she says something half-snarky to the effect, "Don't misunderstand, I'm very grateful for those...crumbs" or something like that.
@@bookerjones8123 I read the Book Version and Tom Wolfe was Straight A Gangsta when Reverend Reginald Bacon refused to give back a $350.000 Check to Two Young Men who represented the Business Affairs of a Church which was a Donation. I also loved A Man In Full. Gene Hackman could have played Charlie Crocker who is in denial over the fact that he's 1.3 Billion in debt.
@@laminage I read it too, and Hackman would've been perfect.
@@bookerjones8123 Thanks for agreeing with me. Tom Hanks was all wrong for the part. He's too nice a guy. If there was one thing that I noticed is that him and Dominick Dunne (RIP) are brilliant at doing Movies about the fabulously wealthy. While Tom Wolfe does his Novels in the form of a Satire, Dominick shows how "cruel" folks can be when they are Rich. Did you ever read A Season In Purgatory, that was heavy.
@@laminage
No, I haven't read that one, I've meant to and never got around to it. I've read a lot of Dunne's nonfiction essays, on OJ, of course, and his daughter's murder and other cases; I haven't gotten to much of his fiction, although I've read An Inconvenient Woman, People Like Us; he was a very good, passionate writer.
This scene alone made the movie worth rental fee during the one time I saw the movie some 15 years after it was released.
no he doesn't execute trades. he's most likely in the debt capital markets group. this group essentially helps companies issue bonds and is part of the investment banking division. they work with the traders to get the bonds sold but they do not trade. they keep some of the commission from the debt issuance.
Kirsten Dunst in the mutha-effin' house!!
Wow I never noticed before thank you!
I never even realize that was Kim Cattrall wow
thats not a broker, hes an investment banker.. a bit of a difference
I believe the character of the book is an institutional bond salesman. An investment banker works with the client to issue the bonds and the salesperson finds another client that’s willing to buy them…he brokers those deals.
They talked about cutting this scene, but the head of the studio loved it and insisted it be left in, so they cut a scene where Sherman and his wife go to the opera.
The old man wasn't implying there was a golden age of blameless and harmless benevolence in finance capital. But there was an eye of financiers, bankers, traders on results translating in the real economy rather than playing with numbers and even destroying companies in cases of a lot of private equity activity.
So you’re saying that they planned the Great Depression?
Changed to 'trader', which apparently is what the character was supposed to be. It's a bit confusing since he changes the subject to what bonds are issued for, while she makes it sound as if he executes trades for commission.
the firm invests, buys shares, and a broker trades and sells and 'brokers' the shares. Where is the fine line?
Was The Actress ever in The Movie Fraternity Row with Scott Newman (RIP). She was a member of Gamma Nu Pie's Sister Sorority.
the kid is Kirsten Dunst
yes
Very fact base film...Hanks portrays a typical hugh fixed trader...on Wall St.
Samantha Jones and Mary Jane Watson in the same scene talking about cake.. Awkward/Disturbing.
Tom Hanks was considered to play Lester and Kirsten Dunst was considered to play Angela in American Beauty. Awkward/Disturbing.
Mary jane, samantha jones, john McClain and forrest gump? Nice!!!
In my mind the little red headed girl is Siobhan Roy
These days we are all picking up the "Golden Crumbs".
holy shit that's kirsten dunst
I thought this scene and her little take on cake is witty.
which a slice of golden cake sounds pretty good about now
Waalstraat trader tries to explain his job-
The first will be last and the last will be first.
Ward Churchill's explanation is better
Is that Kirsten Dunst!?
Yes.
I would have preferred Kyle Maclachlin have played Sherman.
Film not too believable...more waspy types would've been better.....ralph bellamy (trading places) would have done nicely as the father, and Hanks just doesn't cut it as the 30 - something bond trader wiz from Yale....Kelsey Grammer would be better, maybe bebe neuwirth as his aging society wife...the movie misses the subtle satire of the book entirely...de Palma turns it into a light sit- com...its not
@Chrysaura Wannabe reviewer is right. The Bonfire of the Vanities IS like Frasier, just edgier and New York realist.
id pick james spader!
The wife was an A student. The husband? B minus.
Golden crumbs = commissions and fees, for the lay people.
Some priceless snippets on unrestricted capitalism and affluenza.
😝You really haven't a clue about comic timing and cut-off Kim Catrell's scathing lead-in "What does daddy do".
Isn't it amazing. Donald Moffat was in the LGBT Cult Classic Tales Of The City and Tom Hanks won an Oscar for playing a Gay Lawyer in Philadelphia.
HAHAHAHAHAAHA hilarious!! Haha!
Also Donald Moffat was in the updated version of Ordeal By Innocence based on the Novel by Agatha Christie. It had a VC Andrews Vibe to it. Boy talk about being dissed in front of Fam. Judy did it to get back at Sherman for cheating on her.
Inverse to her argument is a reality.
hillary
What a crumby scene
A rather crumby explanation if you ask me.