Intel Unraid Server Upgrade - Tower to Rackmount & Custom Laser Art
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ย. 2023
- 🚀 Welcome to a unique journey of server transformation! In this video, come along for a comprehensive server upgrade, transitioning from an AMD setup to a high-performance Intel CPU. But that's just the beginning.
🔧 From Tower to Rackmount - Checkout the transformation of a regular tower server into a more efficient and spacious 24-bay rack-mounted case.
With a personal touch, watch as I customize the server case with unique laser-etched art. It's not just about performance; it's about style too!
🛠️ Get ready for detailed discussions on HBA cards, cables, backplanes, and more, providing you with a thorough understanding of the server building process.
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I love your build videos, process, mistakes, purchase logic, and as always you are a huge asset to NAS community!
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.Thanks for watching :)
I enjoyed seeing your build. I like the personal touch you did with the engraving.
As always sir a another great video full of information! I built my entire Unraid setup based on your videos.
Awesome Video thanks for sharing and keep up the Great work !!!
Hello from a new subbie! Thx for an informative video and sharing your experience.
Awesome Video love your content I am looking to rack my intel based UnRaid server as well Hoping to get my HL15 in before I start the process! Awesome Video !!
Great to have you back. Also, Shadow is a very good dog.
Ah thanks Mike. And Shadow says thanks too 🐺🐾
I recently migrated to a rack mount case as well. Best decision so far . Rosewill rsv-4500
OMG that mess when doing hardware maintanance... Like looking in mirror when I doing hardware related maintanance on my UNRAID Server 😅😅😅
And that blood... Can relate! 😅😅😅
Yep the wife hates it when i tell her i am rebuilding the server !!
We have missed you Spaceinvader!
LOVE LOVE LOVE the video....ironic that I was already on the fence for almost 2/3 of what you discussed here anyway.
(sigh) as if I didn't have enough empty Amazon boxes...adding to pile after watching.
lol empty Amazon cardboard boxes probably more of them than people on the planet !!
Loved the video Ed. I have been thinking intel from AMD for a server upgrade I will do next year. You have now convinced me. Keep the content coming.
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching.
I've always thought that rack cases with this many drives never looked to have enough cooling for the drives.
I mean, this is the industry standard so I know I must be wrong, but it just confuses me why hard drives don't need/benefit from air actively being moved above and below them at all times.
My confusions aside, your setup looks awesome and I'm sure it will make you smile for many years to come!
My favorite part of the video is you throwing CPU packagings.!
someone please explain to me HOW this channel doesn't have way more subs?!
I've heard of hardcoding an IP address but my man ENGRAVED IT. talk about commitment.
Ha yeah thats for life now. nothing else can have that IP !
13:40
blood sacrifice has been paid, the PC gods are satisfied.
Lol. I'm happy so long as they dont want blood every year !!
I have the same 24 Bay enclosure running Intel, but rather than work out how to save energy with a big power-hungry server, I built a second all ssd server running mergerfs just for serving media. Running zorinos and docker for emby etc. I then run the big server whenever needed and wrote a script to rsync to the ssd media server. You don't need expensive components in a second server and can focus totally on energy saving. Plus you don't need a gpu use an igpu. Plus you could use the media server for desktop duties, even pihole or pfsense maybe. It's good to see more videos.
I rebuilt my server a bit over a year ago and went from a BGA Xeon D quad core to an i5 12600 (non-K) because it has 6 traditional hyperthreaded performance cores and no efficiency cores. The biggest selling feature was that it includes the UHD 770 iGPU for Quick Sync transcoding, that's the same iGPU you get in the 12th gen and 13th gen K CPUs and still get in the 14900K. Not needing a dedicated GPU in the server is great for using less power.
100%, when I'm doing a build and especially swapping parts from one system to another, there is usually stuff everywhere! 😁 I'd quite like to build a similar setup, but it would be massively overkill for my needs. Perhaps if I decide to start studying for some IT Certs again, I'd probably need a big virtual lab. My HP Prodesk 400 G6 is doing a great job at the moment. Space for a single 3.5" Sata drive, and I'm using 2 M.2 NMVE SSD's also (one in a PCIe slot and one on the mobo). Has a i7-9700T and draws about 6-7watts when idle, but only peaks at about 20 under full load. I don't think I'm going to beat that kind of efficiency any time soon.
Wow yeah that is super efficient
Great video. I was curious what VMs you have running on it and how many cores and which ones did you assign to them?
Thanks!
Thankyou so much for the tip its really appreciated :)
Always sad when I watch Euro youtubers build a server, because it seems you guys have much better homelab rack mount cases.
Check out the new one from 45 drives.
I buy mine from servercase.co.uk they ship worldwide. The actual brand is inwin
You can just get it shipped
hahaha i just got that same Motherboard for my 24 bay server rack server. good stuff
Good video. Just curious, is the quicksync igpu able to transcode in plex or jellyfin while also simultaneously used for running a handbrake job?
Looks like a nice setup. I may have missed it, but what model is the 24-bay chassis, and about how much is it? I'd like to have one like that, but I haven't been able to justify the expense for the ones I've seen.
Any chance will you go over your ZFS pools on how you are using them? Thanks again for the great videos.
My Idle usage went up when I switched form AMD to Intel 13 th gen since I wasn't using a gpu with a high power draw. I went from an AMD Ryzen 2700 with a radeon hd 5450 to an Intel i7 13700k
Can you tell me how you measure and display the power of the server? Can it be the PSU or via a socket with the Unraid plug-in?
Is there any particular reason you weren't interested in trying a Ryzen APU like the Ryzen 5700G? Or even The Ryzen Pro 5750G (which comes with support for ECC ram).
Same applies to the new zen4 CPUs that came out last year. I know you'd be forced to use DDR5 memory, but I've heard they are more power efficient than Intel Raptor Lake thanks to their 5nm fab, and they all come with iGPUs now which are meant to be pretty good. I know a lot of the laptop community are starting to gravitate more towards Zen4 over Intel these days for power efficiency.
Intel Quicksync is the reason Intel chips are preferred!
Great Video!!, but I was curious if you started over from a fresh install of unRaid when you built the new setup? I only ask, because I recently had to swap out my setup due to a hardware failure and moved my unRaid server from AMD to Intel and I'm having lots of random 100% spikes on my system that I didn't have before and my array drives no longer spin down like they did before... even if I click the spin down button, they stay up.. I'm really unsure how to troubleshoot everything. The system is very stable otherwise, not crashed or had any other weird behaviors...
No I dont use a fresh copy of Unraid when I upgrade. But things to do before swapping, if you have bound anything to vfio for vms then make sure to unbind all devices in the tolls/system devices before upgrade (or for after as you are, click one device then unclick it and then nothing will be bound) then reboot. Sometimes some hardware can be bound to vfio that shouldnt be when you swap to new motherboard etc. Other than that check your bios settings such as sata set to ahci etc
thank you for the reply, i didnt have VMs before the change... atleast i didn't have any built at the time. I only used it for NAS and dockers. I did delete all the nvidia stuff since im no longer running a nvidia gpu and went to using the iGPU@@SpaceinvaderOne
How is the build quality on that TGC case?
They are available here in Australia however I'm always a bit hesitant with Chinese products
Hi, thinking to upgrade as well, honestly I have been waiting for this video. Still, when I would not care about quicksync and would look at power efficiency side of things, don't you think non-X ryzen 7900 would be a suitable opponent to i5-1360k please? Still, it has iGPU as well, although it is not quicksync.
Very late reply Ed, but nice to see that rack build. I'm also playing with the idea to move from a normal PC case to a rack mount and I ask myself the questuon regarding the CPU if you also looked at the Intel Core i5-13500 instead of the i5-13600K? As the i5-13500 one has a lower TDP of 65W instead of typical TDP of 125W for the one you use. Off course the 13500 has less punch but the same amount of cores.
Off course as your server is most of the time idle or not stressing at all I do have to wonder if it would make much of difference on yearly basis.
Ah the joys of making decisions 😁
I bought a case from ServerCase about a year ago and hate it. The holes to pass through Mini-SAS cables were not big enough (not sure why they designed it like this with a backplane that would need these cables) and when racked doesn't seem to line up properly with the u positions in the rack
hey friend! I really liked your channel, it gives us a lot of information.. I use it with subtitles translated into Brazil..
I really wanted to see a new video re-recording the MSI bios in 2023 because I've already tried and everything seems to go perfectly but at the time the system doesn't identify the pendriver as a drive, in other words it simply doesn't appear in any of the functions, whether from 0 to 3 or any other, it simply doesn't identify the pen driver, I use an MSI X470 GAMING POR and I updated the bios by mistake to a version that only supports the Ryzen 3000 series. disconnection of usb and video..
I have the same case just the 20bay version on unraid.
Great build and video as always! What's the power plugin in UNRAID you using at 21:29 to show power draw?
Might be "Corsair PSU Statistics" plugin which can be found in Community Applications. I guess as that should support the HX1000i and most other Corsair PSU's
@@stiibunyozomita3536 I thought that but I use this already and it looks nothing like what's shown in the video. I thought it was something to do with home assistant.
@@michaelosmolski found, I know Ed talked about it before in several videos but forgot the name.
The screens shown with the blue buttons is actually a Tasmota
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What about the new am5, how does it compare?
Amazing video! What about your UPS? Which one did you choose? I'm searching for a rackable UPS too but prices are insane for known brands.
Thank you
Exactly what I came here for. I can save a ton of space mounting a rack UPS under my Unraid server, but I can't find a decent price one that Unraid will talk to.
I use the APC SMT1500RMI2U Smart-UPS 1500VA LCD I bought second hand off ebay from a refurbisher and it came with new batteries. It cost £300 so a good saving over the new cost. thanks for watching
@@SpaceinvaderOne Cheers dude. I'm guessing it may be the same seller I'm looking at on ebay
@@SpaceinvaderOne Thank you!
This place looks familiar.
how did you get the power tab on your unraid toolbar?
I do also have the Z690 extreme. What I don’t like is how the IOGroups are. What do you think about it?
I have the same board, but with wifi 6e as well. Have you had any issues with disabling various things in the bios? I can’t disable Intel turbo boost for example. It keeps getting reset back to default after a reboot. I can’t even change the fan settings without them going back to default.
Any reason why you went with a frankenserver instead of getting an enterprise server off lease? I recently switched from a build similar to yours to a Dell R730xd (with midplane) and cant imagine ever going back. Yes, idle power draw is higher but IMO not significantly so given the difference in hardware.
Specs:
- dual e5-2699 v3 (total of 36 cores)
- 128 GB ECC ram
- 6x 2.5" SSD (always on)
- 2x M.2 (always on)
- 10x 10TB WD red pro (spinning down)
- GTX1650 Super
- dual 10Gb NIC
It idles at around 180W so that is quite a bit more(I could get it lower taking out the 2nd power supply for sure). Then again, more RAM (and ECC), more drives, etc it doesnt seem terrible. Also, everything is plug and play fully built with an actual full backplane and not just the breakout backplanes is really nice. IMO the deal breaker for me was IPMI since I am often traveling and need to be able to turn it on remotely if needed. Also was purchased for a decent price too (minus storage, GPU, and NIC).
I am genuinely curious about why people make the decisions with builds they do. Obviously everyone has their priorities so I just like to understand the methodology.
The noise really does suck though. Thankfully I can put it in my basement and not have to hear it. But going with something similar in a 4u chassis instead of 2u would be a lot quieter.
1. Support for QuickSync, which "real" servers will never have
2. Lower noise, as enterprise hardware is designed to be crammed in soundproofed server rooms so they're pretty much intentionally loud as fuck
3. Lower cost, both in terms of the server itself and in terms of the power it consumes
A lot of us are just tinkering around and learning while we do it as a hobby. So it makes much more sense to start with affordable and easily available consumer grade stuff.
@@praetorxyn4. IPMI can be sort of solved by using a relatively cheap PiKVM.
do you have 8 sata ports om MB when using m.2 drives? it tends to reduce the available sata ports available
Yes i have 3 m.2 and all 8 sata ports populated
One day I'll finish a build without cutting my hands as well. . .
Maybe I missed it, but what's being used for power monitoring here?
It is Tasmota Power Monitor so you need a Tasmota device.
Yes as Scott says its a smart plug that does power monitoring using tasmota firmware. Then I have custom tabls plugin on unraid so i can click on the webGUI and get to the ip of the tasmote smart plug which then shows the power.
Thank you unraid jesus
Does anyone know where I can get that 16-bay case in the US? All the ones I can find that ship from the US don't have the 5 1/4" bays? I need this for my 2 Blu-Rays drives for ripping my movies and TV Show collection. Currently I'm using a Thermaltake WP200 case but I want a rack mounted solution.
Would be nice if you had tested the power consumption without any extra hba and gpu.
If anyone knows where I can get the first case from this guide (the shorter depth 16-bay case with two 5.25" drive bays), please let me know! Both it and the longer, standard length (650mm) version are sold out everywhere I've looked except for finding the longer version on Aliexpress, but the stubbier version is exactly what I've been looking for for my server for years to replace my awkward tower setup.
might want to edit out the amazon account and location info in the footage
Yes thankyou. I have blurred that now :)
Are you really powering 8 HDDs pr. power cable? Isn't that unsafe?
I seem to be blind, but have you written the model of the case somewhere? :)
You know you're doing it right when your project makes you bleed!
Lol true. Blood swetat and tears !!
I just don't trust 16i HBAs after mine (9201) was running hot, despite 120 mm dedicated fan, and died after few months. Never had any issues with 8i ones, running cool and reliable for years.
Really interesting to see the switch to Intel after I've fairly recently done the opposite. I moved from a 9600k with a pretty bad Z390 motherboard to an Ryzen 1800x in a ROG Crosshair VI Hero. The main reason I moved boards was because of the amount of SATA ports available as well as the NVMe not hindering the PCIE slot bandwidth - It was a relatively tough weigh-up at the time due to having to do it second hand and parts not being as easily available in NZ, but it's worked out pretty well. Having access to a P2000 helped confirm the move to AMD at the time.
Your videos showing what setups to do have made my current setup possible, and this video only adds to my future thoughts on what I can do with it! Maybe I'll make the switch back to Intel when it's more suitable 🤔
what is the motherboard model?
What is that case?!
A little blood sacrifice to the computer gods helps keep the magic smoke from escaping.
I was really looking forward to get the power difference for the i9 in the end 😊 I am still torn between all those extra cores - Also any special CPU pinning needed using Intel?
I will do a short follow up and pop the i9 in the server and make some checks. No pinning not much different different. For a performance vm, gaming etc, I pin a few performance cores and a few efficency to a vm say 4 performance and 4 efficency (then very similar to a i5 13400 core wise then) . Vms like home assistant efficency cores are fine
You mentioned two videos a week?
Can we do requests? 😇🙏
syncthing would be on the list 🙏
Cant say when but i will see what i can do.
i went with the i5 13600k
I always say if you aren't shedding blood building a computer you're doing it wrong.
Lol yes. It makes both me bleed and my wallet !!
👀 If you're going to do a blood sacrifice, did you at least wait for the full moon? 🌕
2080ti in Unraid club lol.
Yeah a great card :)
Something seems off. You changed so many variables. You went from one class of CPU to another. The AMD CPU is twice as expensive! CPUs from two years apart! Left out GPUs, changed motherboards etc.
In the end making this attributable to switching from AMD to intel is so weird. Why not just say you got a new server?
@spaceinvader one - sent you an email regarding help with a unraid network question to your youtube address. Thanks in advance