Honda NC 750 X, DCT 2018 - Test Ride & Review
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The new Honda NC 750 X, DCT - Is it good enough?
My middleweight adventure motorcycles series continue with the new Honda NC 750 X with DCT transmission. I had the chance to have it for test ride and to be honest I was nicely surprised. I did not expect to have such a fun ride from automatic motorcycle. It has 750cc paralel twin engine with 55 H.P. The design is very good and the building quality is excellent. The only downsize, at least for me was the 17th Inch front wheel, but it could be the perfect travel motorcycle for many of you.
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DCT. Storage. 120 cruising. 30KmpL. This is a dream 😍
For me Honda bikes are always well built, good solid materials especially their engines. DCT transmissions are the future despite the weight penalty they come with but it can deliver better linear power and shift convenience.
True
Im just gonna take the manual cause it's cheaper
instablaster
Thanks for the Honda nc750x dct test.
I bought mine a year ago and I am very happy. Probably not great for travelling for best bike for commuting.
I do about 40 km per day with a 3.3 liters/100 km and that is unbeatable.
Position is very comfortable and no shifting in traffic or city makes it perfect. You can go to the city in the highway like a regular bike and in the city is like an scooter. Best of both worlds.
I agree is not an adventure bike but.let's be honest how many of us do that
Thanks for watching and for the detailed info!
Mike Brink for travelling I think the main issue is the wind protection, screen is small and not adjustable
This bike with the Puig screen with visor and the Honda trunk truly make it both highway and city, don't forget the center stand too.
I have a 2017 model, with the full Adventure pack which includes full luggage, mainstand, engine bars, spotlamps, heated grips and a rear carrier. It is remarkably frugal, 80+mpg being easily attained. Motorway cruising at 90mph is perfectly possible, the engine pulling less than 5000rpm. It is perfectly smooth at all speeds and the DCT is a work of genius! As you said, build quality is among the best. All said, I love mine and am looking forward to a 3 week Continental trip in July. Great review of a great bike.
You think it's will be good on off roads. Tnx
@@innovationsanitaire7564 As long as it isn't too rough, then yes. I have taken mine on a fire trail, but it is too heavy for real off road riding.
I love my 2015 DCT too
I have the the nc750s 2017 model. Driven in city, highway, curvy roads and long trips up to 1000km on one go.
You really have to understand this engine. Its not meant to be a sportbike, its a commuting practical bike, with the occasional fast pace riding. You can ride it agresively, if you dont mind changing gears bellow 6250rpm.
Pros:
- plenty of torque, pulls like a mule, dont have to change speed often
- very easy to ride, low center of gravity, feels lighter than 220kg
- 3,6l in city, 4,5l at 140km/h on highway fully loaded with topbox and pillion, very economical engine
- very practical because of the luggage space
- probably the best commuting bike
- amazing exhaust sound, has 270' crankshaft so it sounds like a v-twin
- nice suspension, very comfortable on potholes
Cons:
- even with aftermarket turing visor, lots of wind on highway
- pulls great up to 120km/h, after that it picks up speed very slowly
- seats are nice for commuting, but not so good for touring, u start to feel it after an hour of riding
Thanks for adding this info!
Can you tell me miles per gal city highway not kL per Litter
David Ortiz 65mpg city, 52mpg highway, thats US miles per galon
How tall are you? At this point I am wondering if I should buy X or S - NC750. This will be my first bike. I am 41 years old and I am 184cm.
Great review like usually... great job man! 👍🏻👍🏻
I have nc750x, manual, four years already. 19,000km on the odometer. Great bike. Thank God, zero problems. I make mine 12kg heavier (aluminium top box, side carriers, centerstand, crash bars), the bike going very well. I using for road touring. My longest ride on highway was 970km. No problem at all. Redline start from 6,250rpm and torque peak from 4,750rpm. On highway I keeping 4,500-5,000rpm, in sixth gear speed is 140-155kph (depend of wind direction). In this case fuel consumption is 5-5,2l.
On local roads, where speed not exceeding 110kph (mostly 50-100) fuel consumption is 4 litres.
Wind protection is weak. I bought oem windshield, even do is weak protect. Then I attached Givi spoiler which help a lot. (I’m 188).
If you are riding alone you will get pure fun. If you have passenger you will miss fun on road.
The power is ok. Originally Honda took this engine from the car, they cut half and modify for the bike. So, this 54bhp maybe is not real number (Suzuki vstrom 650 has 70hp, but nc pulling better than vstrom).
Anyhow, great bike for road using and for light off road.
Cheers 🏁🏁
Very detailed information, thanks for adding it!
Motorcycle Adventures thank you for your great job man! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
NC have better torque, but as horsepower is function of torque*rpm, V-Strom delivers more hp simply due to higher redline.
Emil Kluczyński in practical meaning you can’t feel that vstrom has more hp, because Nc has better acceleration and higher maximum speed. I said that.
Thanks Marko!
I ride a 2017 Honda NC750X DCT and what I can say is I love that bike. Last year I drove 10.000km last year and in 2 month I ride with that bike to the Northcape. It is definitely a ride for long distances, 800km at one day is no poblem. It is very comfortable and very economic. Almost 400km with one tankful is possible. Power is absolutely enough, at least for me. But-and that is very clear- this bike is not suitable for heavy offroad. Light gravel roads are possible. I wonder why only Honda offers the DCT gear?? For the model they offer this (like NX750 and Africa twin) they sell more than 50% with DCT. I think if BMW offer the R1200GS with DCT as well I would buy that bike. Anyway, thank you Pavlin for all of your very authentic videos. You make a great job!!
Thanks for the info!
I think they look great in The showroom and great on you tube videos, but in real life, (i love the blue paint) the bike looks insubstantial. Like a bike scooter/bike
MarcoPolo Hi there
I am also verge on buying this bike🤪 I just wonder if you had any issues with dct gear box on “D” mode when cornering as it tends to change the gear in corners and hence rear tire skids a bit? And they say they added in 2018 models an option (HSTC maybe) to eliminate this problem?
Hi Tanju, after almost 12.000km I have absolutely no problems with the DCT. I ride appr. 80% in 3S mode, 20% in D-mode.
I’ve wondered the same about BMW. They already have experience with DCT transmissions in their automotive lines.
Seems to me, not only would that experience be useful, but also that it would be an ideal fit for their generally more upscale and high-tech market image.
I have a 700s and I love it to bits. I can imagine what a 750 would be like, but still I'm extremely happy with the 700. As you said the build quality of this bike is really outstanding. Great bike!
Great review. I am a disabled person. Lost my right arm and all fingers on my left hand accept thumb and pinky. After 20 yrs of thinking I could not ride anymore, Built myself a Honda XL 250 with An ATC motor and trans. Got back on the road and got my license back. Am purchasing the 2019 model and having it fitted for me. This review has just made more more confident. Thumb Up.
Thanks man! Good luck with the new toy!
you are doing great work! With such a bike, my wife drove 3 continents (many bad roads) with a total of 45000km !. no problem, no breakdown, very economical and random. I drove the same route with a Honda Crosstourer with the same positive experiences.
I am sure that both are great bikes, thanks for adding this info!
Loving your reviews. It's really helping me in my quest to transition from a 125pcx to a bigger motorcycle!
I am glad that the videos helps! This was the original idea.
I recently passed my A licence on the NC750S DCT, and found it great, very easy to slow manoeuvre with, with the DCT you just adjust technique a little thats all, instead of using/feathering clutch during slow turns etc, with the DCT in sports mode, you just give a little more throttle, and drag rear brake, makes handling the bike so much easier.
Its a great everyday bike, good commuter/some touring, does most things well, jack of all trades, master of none type of bike. Certainly isnt a speed freak machine, and with the DCT a joy to ride. The NC750X DCT will probably be the bike I will buy next month.
Did you use a dct bike from the training centre or was it your own?
@@irishzombie22able Training Centre supplied it.
@@thegoony can I ask where abouts you did your test? Would be ideal to do my A licence on a dct bike as I want to buy a, dct model nc750x after I pass
@@irishzombie22able did mine in South East Kent. Kent motorcycles but gonna be long time for tests right now. No bookings being taken
I have one of these, fell in love with the dct during the testride and had to have it. On big tours (300km) i regularly get 3.0L/100km but I like to accelerate slowly and enjoy the engine pulses. If you look back to the section where you comment on the engine rpms on the highway, I think you're in 5th gear, not 6th !! Probably because you have it in one of the 3 sport modes.
It was on S mode and I am pretty sure that it was the last gear, but it could be.
@@motorcycleadventures Bike can go 180kmh, that was 5th gear :D
This bloke always provides common sense informative videos...I have this bike for six months and i love it. If you drive automatic cars then this bike will become second nature to you in no time...if you consider if one hundred years ago when all cars were first made they all had automatic gearboxes, then ten years later someone developed a manual gearbox he would be laughed out of the factory...but please remember in drive mode this bike gives almost 80 mpg...which is incredible..all the best from uk..
Thanks for taking the time!
Pailin, I own the manual version and would describe it as a good all rounder. Build quality is great for the price, easy to ride and own. I commute and tour on it with no problems. Nice review
I agree. Thanks for watching!
Excellent review! Bought this motorcycle a week ago - and I've looked through your videos last month to two with hope you did this review earlier ;)
Hint on price for buyers - ask if dealer have 2017 model. The only difference is traction control feature - and you can decide is it necessary for you or not. More on this, you could get some free items for old model (I've got full set of 3 panniers, for example).
Small tech additions:
- Check helmet fit. Cargo volume is 22 litres, afair, and it is possible that some helmets won't fit in. For example, mine Scorpion ADX-1 (modular, L) fit in with a lot of dancing and try'n'fit pushes. And I have to remove communication module from outside. Integral helmet should fit much easier.
- Manual shifting is "suggestion" to DCT to shift and it could be declined (I'm not sure about pure manual mode, need to check). Nevertheless, you could perform shift from any mode - D or S.
- There's parking brake for hill parking.
Thanks for this info!
I have a 2016. Be sure to not use the side stand or kill switch to shut down the bike on a regular basis. To avoid possible computer issues, use this sequence as preferred: put in Neutral, turn off at ignition, deploy side stand, set parking brake.
2016 DCT, I average 66 mpg (28km/l), "Sport 1" setting, riding around a small town and on rural 2 lanes mostly. Mine has a bash plate, hand guards, Honda "crash" bar, aux lights, "pelican" hard cases & top box, DIY rear shock/reservoir protection, DIY fork guards, DIY radiator guard, modified rear seat with fuel pass through access, off road foot pegs, DIY brake pedal extender (modified TW200 footpeg), Sit & Fly seat cover, Oxford heated grips, multiple power outlets, and probably a few other things that don't come to mind. I love the bike, and as you can tell, I'm "all in," hahaha.
You built it very well. Enjoy your trips and always ride safe!
So you basically added a couple of things! :-D
Yeah; total up those options, my friend! Honda could have put a few on as standard.
After one year and 15,000 Km made with this bike I can say that it was a good choice for me! Your review was very usefull before buying the bike, made my picture complete. Basic maintenance it quite easy to make it, the DCT box its proven to be quite reliable, oil change easy to do, same with other basic stuff like brakes, chain, sprocket. With air filter the acces its a little difficult but it can be done. valve adjustment can be done also easy but better at the dealer in my case. Fuel consumption just amazing. Some Flows are :Dashboard, Weight, Seat, mud protection, windshield. Greetings !
I like your review on the bikes I always appreciate your honest opinion.
Thanks Ron!
Thanks for the review. I am thinking of buying a used 2018. While I don’t mind gear shifting, I really like scooters, where that is not necessary. I appreciate your honesty.
Glad to help!
Thank you Pavlin! I ride a 2018 NC750X, manual version, and I think it is a great street bike, and a pretty good touring bike. Not so good if you like to ride very fast, and not good for off-roading either. The engine runs very smoothly, and it is indeed very fuel-efficient and low-maintenance. Another important point is the price/quality positioning of this bike by Honda. It is far less expensive than the competitors of similar sizes (at least in my market). So, if you are willing to make some compromises in terms of raw power, speed and range, it is an interesting choice.
Very true,thanks man!
Great review... direct and to the point. My interest in this Honda has peaked.
Cool
Good job Pavlin! Some "corrections" from an owner (69000km with 700X). The revs of 5000 at 130km/h don't seem right. Maybe the DCT put you in 5th gear. Should be more like 4000. The engine does not have any heat problems. 140-150 km/h on longer distances is no problem at all if you get the right windshield for your size. This is the strength of this motorcycle! Also it is NOT expensive. The normal X version was already sold for about 6500 to 7000€, the S for 5500€. On second hand market you hardly find a bike below 3000. This bike does not lose much value and its also very reliable and economical. You are right with the maintainence which is tricky because of the plastic stuff. Its also more on the bigger side. Often the X Version is a problem for smaller riders. With a proper seat the bike should be fine.
But great and honest review which is a good advice for people who are interested in this bike.
Thanks for adding Alfred! I really thought that it was top gear, but it could be, which is another downside of the DCT version for me. I prefer to know what I am doing, but I think is a matter of time to learn it. As I said in Germany 2018 model NC750X is 8,900 euro. All the best!
it was in 5th gear
Pedro Gomes you are right, 130km/h is around 4,000 rpm. Great bike, I am always amazed to see some bikers complaining that DCT (automatic gear, in fact dual clutch) is not for “real” bikers....until they try it. Everyone who has tried the DCT has been thrilled and so surprise about how convenient, clever and efficient it is.
I ride the 2014 NC700X DCT and love it. No thoughts of getting another. I bought it new in 2015 and have over 28,000 miles on it. It has delivered everything I have asked of it, and there is more it is able to give. I have added mods for travel (windscreen, rack replacing the pillion seat, new seat, and more). I camp off it all the time, and it holds everything I need. I commute to work year round (but not in snow, my own rule). Is it a "round the world" bike? Sure, with a couple more mods (suspension, dual-sport tires, bash plate). There are a couple brothers from Canada who went down to Ushualia from Vancouver. Nice review! Nice to hear objective views on the bike. It is a very underrated motorcycle.
I agree that it is a good bike.
I was back in us last month and my bro gave me his new 750 dtc honda. It made me really want one. I put 4000 miles on it visiting family and friends. Hope honda would put this on a small dual sport
Will see...
55 hp to me is more than enough, the same power some small cars but the bike is lighter
Im the owner of one of this (previous version), and yes, you can reach the fuel comsumption of the honda manual on regular roads (even with a 105kg rider on her :P). The urban consumption is between 4 and a 4,5 l/100 km. This bike with 10-15 cvs more, and with a little a little more seat hight would be perfect for me.
On long trips,the problem is, if you carry an extra bag on the passenger seat, t every time you refuel, you have to remove the bag, but due to the awesome mileage you get used to it :P
Thanks for adding this info Juan!
An interesting bike. Thanks for your review, Pavlin. I once tested the NC700X DCT version and thought it was a great bike. The 750 incorporates many improvements, I gather, and its cargo hold (which you didn't mention) is wonderfully practical. As an all-rounder it really appeals to me.
Safe roads 👍
You are welcome anytime!
Thanks for giving a detailed account of this vehicle.
My pleasure!
My wife bought the NC 700 DCT about a year ago. I rode it several times and liked the DCT so much that I traded my own Yamaha Super Tenere in for a Honda Crosstourer with DCT. We ride about 15000 km a year. Both Honda's are very fine touringbikes, not only because of the DCT.
Good, the most important is to like your bike.
did you like the seat? many people hate it on long trips
@@tbillyjoeroth Nu wife and I are both tall persons. We both could nog live with the standard seat, so we had it rebuild by a professional. Higher and somewhat wider. Very well done.
Thanks a lot for this review. I bought mine 3 months ago and only did about a thousand kilos until now. I agree that the bike is not built to go off road but I did some gravel roads and if you're not in too much of a hurry it is no problem. I am 1.83 meters tall and even the seat might be a bit low it still gives a comfortable ride. The only thing that I can complain about is that with the normal fairing there is a lot of turbulence on my helmet. I ordered a taller touring screen that I should be getting soon and I am sure it will solve that problem. The plan is to do some long distance touring in the coming months. I discussed the fuel tank under the seat which also seemed as a problem to me when it comes to refueling when you have saddle bags on the bike but Honda sells cases that was specifically designed for the NC 750. So I am saving for those as well. Thanks again and keep up the good reviews.
Thanks for the info!
Kobus van der Linde You can look at Shad for a top box and rack. They are awesome and made for the NC. Great after sale service as well with no questions asked.
Hi Pavlin. Thanks for all your videos, I like that you try to see the best in each bike but also hold on to things you think could be done better. Due to a "boyhood" dream mixed with economy, I started commuting to work(70km a day) on two wheels. 2years with a Honda PCX 125cc scooter then 1year with a Honda Forza 125cc. Then i finally got my motorbike license and was recommended the NC750X DCT as the perfect bike to start with. I choose the DCT because I just thought I drove so smooth. And very economical. I have it now for 6month and have done 11.000km. My consumption for all 11.000km is 4.1ltr which Im very satisfied with since I weigh 110kg/186cm tall and do all my shopping for its my only vehicle. I use my topbox and a bagpack for workclothes and shopping, so I couldn´t live without the compartment for my helmet and gloves.
Its a shame you didnt have more time on the bike for then you would have experienced some more of its good features.
You were playing with D, S and triptronic gear functions but in one trip its impossible to find the maximum use of them. For me I use D the must. And I use the down-shifting function almost everytime I need to slow down at a round-about, which also puts the engine in the right gear to continue. S works the same but is for when I wanna play with speed;-).
It also have a handbrake which I find very handy when parking on any incline.
t took me a very short time to feel at One with the NC750X DCT, making U-turns and parking at supermarkets and in town. Specially after I put the mono suspension under the saddle, on the hardest stand because of my weight. That key comes with the bike.
Im so fond of my DCT gearbox that my next bike will be an AfricanTwin DCT. No doubt. Yesterday I saw The AfricanTwin Epic Tour in Marrocco. 5 days were 75 riders crosss around in desserts and dirt roads. Half of them with DCT. So DCT off-road is just fine.
At last I will just mention that I wish the gasolin tank was bigger and the whole bike was lighter.
Cool! Enjoy your rides!
DCT shifts faster than you ever could..meaning it is faster off the stop. Not designed for off road but it can fire road fine. No pavement does not mean off road.
That looks like a really fun bike. I've never ridden an automatic bike looks a little wierd but it's a Honda so reliability should be great.
Love to test one out now.thanks for another great video pavlin 👍👍
You are welcome anytime Paul, thanks for watching!
Just back from a 6 days / 3000km trough Ireland. My friend drove a BMW K1300 :-). Only issue I had was the seat. My butt hurted like hell. The rest was perfect. Fast enough, veeery economical, lots of storage, comfortabel (except the seat). My friend's bike costed almost 2.5 times mine :-). Very good bike !
I am sure about it.
I buy this motorcycle (manual version model 2017) one year ago and i`am very happy with my choice. The power of this engine is more than enugh. I dont no how the Honda engineers mange to give you such a good acceleraion only with 55hp and low RPM ! In one year i was make 21000 km without any problems, i have a lot of confidence in this bike, the longest adventure trip was 11700 km in one month (avoiding highways). In my opinion is best motorcycle for beginners except the power 0-100 below 6 seconds which i think can be tricky for a complete beginners, any way the pros: its very stable with the low center of gravity, no surprise when you hit the throttle, have linear acceleration from 3000 up to 6250 RPM, ABS , low fuel consumptiin between 3.5-4.5 depending ob speed, weight and the price for this was 6800 euro for maual version
The down side: the stock sit is a realy crap, my butt is always in pain after 1-2 hours of riding and the WEIGHT. If this bike weight was below 200kg, than this bike was the perfect bike ever...in my opinion the breaks are a little weaker on high speeds +100km, maybe is just a personal thing
Concluzion: as you sayed before, you can do adventure trip on any bike even if is not designed for long trips. The position is not confortable for 10 hours of riding if you are tall as i am but the small dimension help me a lot in trafic like Napoli, Catania, Palermo, on veary narrow roads in the mountains
I realy like your chanel, high quality info...nice job
Agree
i owned two 750 NCX one 2017 dct the brnd new model.... i didnt muche like the dct i did with it 15000 km and finally love the bike... i loved so strongly the bike that i sold it to buy exactly the same with no dct ;;; the one with a gear box and did with 9000 km im was in love with the nice honDA? REALLY but this was until i give a try to the new v strom 650.......OMG i went to the dealer for a test drive with the suzuki and one km after i knew what to do........... finished my test drive and knew this is finally the bike i was looking .....so i went home and put my NC online to be sold;......as quick as that..... and bought thge new v strom 2018;;;;............really really really the best bike, its the winner of all test and compare to other bikes.....;ok juste to be said, i was in crazy love with the NC wich is a good good bike.........but go and try the new v strom , just to be sure of your choice........i am a die hard fan now of the strom
@Louwrens De Kock no vibrations at all......the v strom is à dream bike to ride as i said i owned two nc750x....v strom is really much better......
Love your reviews! I had a Honda DCT for a about a year and had only three issues with the automatic shifting. 1) I missed the ability to use the clutch and friction zone In slow speed handling, 2) It would sometimes change to a higher gear when I would have preferred not to shift, e.g., when cornering. 3) I had to learn not to blip the throttle when stopped.
Well...this are the downsides and actually few of the reasons I don't want to buy it.
I had one for two years. You’re absolutely right about the dct. Other than the things you mentioned, I liked it very much. I own a BMW 1200gs now. Superior in almost any way to the Honda, but of course also triple the price. I do miss the dct for relaxed cruising en that handy little storage area. Even if it was just 2 cm too small for my helmet.
I take my NC700x off road all the time. Never let the 17 inch wheel stop me. I did add a skid plate, crash bars and bark busters.
If you are able, why not?
The level of clearnes in the mirrors while riding the highway is also worth mentioning !
True
nice review. thank you for testing this bike, especially with the optional dct👍
It was my pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Honda nc750x DCT anywhere you can go!
Everything is control
It’s pretty telling that his initial impressions changed so drastically by the end. He was dogging the power (“sounds powerful, even if it’s not”), the “weird” DCT, the height, and more. One short ride later and he completely changed his tone and impression. Gotta get me one of these! I wish he’d actually taken it into some dirt, though, just to give his thoughts as a very experienced ADV rider. I mean, the title of his video would suggest that, right? With those tires, though, I understand his decision not to try.
As I said it was my first time and I was curious what it is. Now I know. It is really nice experience to have, but I will always prefer the manual bike. Off road with demo bike is not possible.
I have it since 2016 and now 46000 km later i would buy it again. Never want to ride without DCT again. (On small mountain roads my 1200gs friend can't follow me :-). I confirm an average of 3.6l. On german highway it could be a little faster than the max v-speed of approximative 175 km/h.
I love it
Good, enjoy it!
I have the 2016 manual and the easy way to described the bike is that is a bike that do not excel at anything (maybe fuel usage) but is good at everything. I use it for commuting, touring from UK to Romania and back and I also did some off road, unpaved roads, even agricultural tracks, and is doing a fine job. Complains wind protections is crap, foot pegs are small even for road use. I think if you can afford only one bike then go for this one.
Ok, thanks!
Mine consistently gets 3.3 L/100km. It’s awesome for commuting
Your videos are great for me, because I am a bigger guy too. You always focus on real world ergonomics and function. I really liked the crf 250 rally and x300 reviews. Brutally honest reviews from a bigger guy’s perspective. I’d like to see you review the Royal Enfield Himalayan as well. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks man! Videos reviews of the Himalayan you can watch here: th-cam.com/play/PLlV9_TaZp4xHuppbAfjHg-SG9LXqy1Ee5.html
Fantastic review, looks like the torquey motor is a lot of fun!!!
I can’t wait to get my 2021...
Keep up the good work with your reviews!!! 😎
Thanks! 👍
You are correct. That unprotected radiator sticking out is just a problem waiting to happen. I still prefer manual gears. Great review.
True. I also prefer to use the standard clutch, but was good experience.
I believe from the reviews I've watched, Honda has the DCT down pat. I believe the way I would drive it would shift manually with traction control off. Great review Pavlin !! RIDE SAFE!😎
What I like about the bike is the automatic because of a disabled foot and the remarkable mpg, but I do not like the bike itself. I would like to see the drive train put in a low riding cruiser type bike with a larger tank of at least four and a half gallons and a windshield that actually helps with protecting the rider from the buffeting wind. Versus having storage in the tank, have the tank as a tank and add bags for storage. The 1100 dct is a bar hopper, not a commuter bike and doesn't get the phenomenal fuel mileage of the 750x dct. Some people have claimed as much as 90 mpg. That is from a bike with a top speed of 125 miles an hour. These are feature that needs to be exploited with several different models, like with the Shadow models and Honda is failing to do so.
Thanks for taking the time!
Fantastic! Such a great all rounder. Thank you for the review!
You are welcome anytime!
Enjoy watching and listening to your style of reviews,thks.
Thanks!
I have the 2017 model and the NC700X DCT of 2012. both are very economical. Without big effort, the 3,5 l/100km is possible. You should be under 4l/100km all the time with sensible driving. The DCT will shift up quickly in D-mode, so that helps a great deal. And like any good automatic, just open the throttle quickly in D-mode and it will downshift and rev to the redline. So there is no need to fiddle about when overtaking. 6th can be engaged at 62km/h and then you just rip open the throttle to have it downshift to a very low gear and use maximum revs.
Thanks for the info!
Left hand , left foot ? ...RELAX .............lol ..............DCT superb....when you get used to it !!
THE FUTURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure, but...
Hi Pavlin, the NC750X is a very modern and damned good looking bike with some smart features, especially in the DCT version. Perfect for cruising. Also the premium quality of Honda is well known. But i guess, it never can or should be upgraded to a tough adventure bike. Ride safe, Hans.
Correct, it is nice city bike, that's it.
My two preferred bikes in this category are Versys 650 and Vstrom 650. Versys being better for touring and fun, Vstrom better suited for off road and very comfortable, especially with a high seat option. Would be great if you could review these two models.
I will definitely review the V Strom, about the Versys I am not sure that they have test bike, but I will try.
I'd also be keen to see your review of the Versys 650.
Nice review. I like my 2019 non-DCT 750X with a few changes (Puig wind shield and fender, GIVI auxiliary lights* and hand guards, Daytona heated grips and USB port). Sufficient power, enough torque at low revs, nice sound, 3,2 liters/100 km.
* Unfortunately the LED-Headlight is bad
Glad that it was helpful!
Great review! But one thing - when you were doing 125-130, you were still in 5th! I (still) haven't got the bike but I know a guy who does and it cruises at 3000 RPM on 6th gear with no problems, and he says that it's a breeze until 150, after that it gets a bit slow, but who buys an NC for highway racing anyways?
Bravo,very helpful video!! I'm going to buy this bike in september..Cheers from Italy.
Thanks!
Very nice bike
I would consider purchase
Good review
Great review again Mr Pavlin. The bike looks great
Thanks! Yes, it is good locking bike.
I average 3.5l/100km on my manual version. Also there is actually 3 sport settings wich makes for more power and higher revs on gear changed.
You had the worse tyres on that bike which made your handeling at low speeds crappy. The Metzler Tourning Next and Pirelli Scopion Trail 2's are awesome in all conditions. I prefer the Scorpions 2 over the Metzlers for dirt roads.
I can sit confortably at 80km/h on a dirt road without feeling the need to stand. But I don't think I will be riding through the bush with it.
Did 45000km in 2 years on it of which about 5000km was on dirt.
Easily crouse at 130/140km/h
Great review as usual.
Thanks for the info man!
Remember, most of this bike is designed to be easy to work on, so that may be why some things are in different places. I believe most of bolts and connectors are all the same size so you don't need many different tools.
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Привет Павлин! У моей подруги Honda NC700S, 2013 года с обычным ("нормальным") сцеплением. Мотоцикл очень надёжный и простой в обслуживание. Мотоцикл прошёл 35.000 км, 2 похода в Норвегию (с юга на север и с севера на юг), большой тур по Германии, Австрии с заездом во Францию и Люксембург. Очень хорош и на хай-вее и на серпантине и на разбитой дороге и на участках дорог где шла полная реконструкция (практически оф-роуд). Хочу сказать - он стоит своих денег!
Пару слов про "автомат" - в дальней поездке без круиз контроля правая рука просто "отсыхает"! Ты не можешь снять руку с газа, так как начинается торможение двигателем, а сцепление не выжать - его нет под левой рукой...
У меня был такой FJR 1300. После 9.000 км по Норвегии я его продал
Удачи вам! 🤝 Хорошая идея с тест-драйвом разных моделей МС. 👍
Спосибо! Для меня ето не вариант, ну хотел проверить, что такое автомат на мотоцикле!
Motorcycle Adventures Удачи вам Павлин! Жду продолжения ваших видео рассказов. 👋
Будет...Вторник Zero FX, електический мотоцикль.
Great for cities reducing the risk of forgetting shifting and then stalling it and thus maybe even preventing to fall over. But, if you have driven an automatic motorcycle for too long and then switching to one with manual shifting again, it can mean to start the learning curve of shifting from the beginning again... ^^
I just swapped my BMW R1200RT 2014 for a NC750XD 2020 (new) and to me, its like handling a feather now. So light and maneuverable its a breeze to do u-turns and handling is superb.. but i guess its all about what you are used to driving. And yes, it may seem like a silly change but i commute for 12 minutes to work and the R1200RT was just much too big for such short rides.
Good decision!
@@motorcycleadventures Thanks for the feedback! I dont know much about motorcycle details, just enjoy riding them. But hearing i did a good thing from someone who do know a thing or two is great.
Clean modern bike. Great road tourer I would think. Engine would probably be great in the old 650 transalp chassis. Super economy with enough power in off road chassis..
But on balance cb500x / Africa twin cross please. Perfect travel bike.
Good test.
Valid points, thanks!
I agree with you, for me 50 hp with a good torque is enough to have fun. I rode this bike with a manual transmission and I didn’t like the cutoff at 6500 rpm. I think the automatic version must be right choice.
It is made with purpose, other wise you can brake the engine. Why you need to ride with 6,500 rpm?
I like to go to 8000 rpm or more from time to time when I accelerate. But after on the road I prefer to have low rpm.
I ride a 2008 Suzuki Vstrom and recently had a test drive on exactly this kind of bike. I found it nice in general, though the engine was a big disappointment compared to what I am used to from my old Suzuki. No fun at all, just as you are getting ready for the power to come on it either shifts to a higher gear, or hits the rev limiter. The engine feels like it belongs in a lawn mower.
Well, we all like different things.
My point being: this bike seems to be very underpowered for its displacement.
This is probably what a diesel motorbike would be like. There are plenty of bikes good on fuel we don't need this thing.
Hallvard Paulsen I'm pretty sure the NC series uses a twin engine from a Honda car. This also explains their low redline and torque curve as well as their low specific power output. This makes it a bit boring but also bulletproof reliable. I bet these things go a looooong way before they are written off.
The angle of the cilinders is also really special. Almost horizontal to the road to help with the center of gravity and make room for the trunk. I think this also has to do with the bore stroke ratio being more similar to a car. Longer stroke so less RPM/power and more torque. Power = RPM × torque
PbPomper it's true without that angle on the engine the trunk would never be possible, it should be reliable at this power output. But many bikes don't wear out making 20+ hp more than this bike. I think power wise with this bike should have been the same as the versys and v--strom at least 650's vs 750
I have one of those. Mantainance every 12.000 km. At my own garage.
Its cheap to mantain! At least mine that is a manual version.
Iou can get cheap components from hiflofiltro and EBC.
Fuel economy its a dream.
It is my second NC. This bike takes miles for ever. Not high compression or high rev's so its very conservative.
Ok, good to know.
Nice comfortable bike!
I cant talk about the bike really becaue i ride the odler version of it, the 2012 nc700x but just as a reference for you guys, on a 64km daily commute i constantly go below the 3.5l/100km, honda mentioned. I get like something around 3.3l/100km as an average and that is with mainly inner city riding, if you go on country roads and manage to keep your throttle hand in check you can go well below 2.5l/100km which gives you plenty of range.
This is great result, good to know.
I currently ride a Kawasaki Concours 14 which is the GTR 1400 in Europe I think... Anyway, I've been thinking about switching to a more favorable commuter bike and have been seriously considering the NC700/750X. Considering the DCT model mainly due to advancing arthritis in my hands. Thank you for what is probably the best review video I've seen in this bike. Great job and I've subscribed to your channel now.
Thanks Michael!
Thanks, very thorough & honest review!!
Glad it was helpful!
@@motorcycleadventures Your review was much more convincing because you had negative expectations (& you were honest enough to say so)... This must be a very good bike because it had to win you over!. I heard genuine enthusiasm here.
Dear Pavlin, thank you for this review, much sooner than I expected!
I totally agree that for more than occasional offroad use, the NC750X(D) is not very well suited. But, the Japanese didn't have this purpose in mind when they designed it.
I own a 2015 DCT, only ride on paved roads, one or multiple day rides and modified it to my liking (large screen, Hyperpro suspension, sticky street tyres and GPS controlled chain oiler) for maximum control and comfort on long haules.
I did own a heavy sport-touring bike (the FJR1300) but due to reumatic disease, I needed a lighter bike with automatic transmission. But I really love the possibility that - if I'm physically able - I have total control of the gears. I honestly did not expect that this bike was so easy to manoeuver on low speed thanks to its low CoG (balanced stop and go is easily done) and provide such fun when on the move. Twisty roads makes this bike really shine.
On the highway I usually ride at 130 km/h which makes the engine purr like a cat. My average fuel consumption is 28 kms/litre when going swift in sport mode. If I want, I go slow riding and get up to 1:40 kms/litre but then the fun is gone... I usually refuel every 300 kms or so.
Cheers!
Thanks for this long and detailed commend Rene!
GPS controlled chain oiler? What about temperature controlled exterior colors and elevation controlled caffeine injections? :-)
No, that's only for dorks.
Would you believe I took this bike to Morocco (with TKC80 tyres) and I had a lot of fun? Obviously it has a lot of limitations offroad, but it can do some offroad
Yes, why not?
Nice review and video as usual. I'm going to have a test ride of it next week. My first choice at the moment though is for Suzuki V storm 650.
I tried both 650 and 1000 and I loved them both. But I'd love to have a honest review of the 650, which is my favourite, from you. Thanks. Max
Suzuki V Strom 650 coming soon
V strom is better in every way.
As I said V storm is my first choice at the moment.
But I haven't ridden the Honda yet.
Its infrastructures look cheap to me and the tank under the rear seat not practical for the bags during a trip.
It is going to make you unlock and lock the luggage every time you stop at a gas station
Awesome review, I own a 2017 NC. It's a great touring bike, it may not be that great on off road, but it can sure handle it. Stock tires are really bad for off road thou.
Definitely.
Cant wait till You will start to look on Sport Tourers. Im riding FJR1300 and Last year I've done 17000 Miles, for me its ideal travel machine . Ill really wanted Your review on FJR. Will be very interesting what You are thinking on it.
Thanks for Your videos!!!
I don't have plans to test this type of bikes, sorry!
Why not?
Aigaro FJR is a fantastic bike. But not for offroad. It is not a bike to go in deserts or woods....
I understand FJR is not for forest. But isn't this canals name MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURES? if the name will be adventures in forest or 19Inch front 4 off roads ill understand. Ill always was thinking that we all are biker-brothers isn't?
Because I am focused more on the adventure type of bikes. I like all type of motorcycles, but if I start to test them all there will be not time for me to travel... just the most famous models. I hope you will understand now.
This bike is great I had a 2016 model took it round most of France with no trouble with camping gear the dCT was great it cruised along at 85 meh all day. Meg was the best.
The dCT is Honda's best selling in all there bikes
Good to know.
The one main reason i sold it was the fuel filler under the rear seat . when loaded with bags and tent i had to unload everything when filling with petrol.
Hi! This is my next bike bat with manual gearbox. Easy akcess to engine, only air filter is under plastic panels deep inside bike. 70nm ofdoing job. And this helmet storage is grat. ✋👍
Agree
The info on the instrument panel looks a.little small .
You forgot to mention the parking brake next to the left hand grip.
But overall this was an excellent review!
Thank you.
Yes, I do forgot the brake. Thanks!
I had first NC700X. Loved it, but wanted more offroad capable bike, so I bought new Twin. But NC was wonderful city commuter, loved the "frunk". And I got 2,9km/100km once. Usually it was around 3-3,2. So yeah, economical, very.
Thanks for adding this info!
Dude this is the easiest bike to maintain! Very easy and can be done almost by anyone. Oh! and nice video, thanks. :D
Easy to do what, oil change? What about the valves clearance or DCT oil change?
Yes and oil change is so easy, for the DCT you don't have to change anything except the DCT oil filter ( 5 min job ). Valve clearance is easier because of the engine position, even the change of spark plugs are 10 min job.
Nice review, thanks. Just a couple of notes; if it has similar function to the Goldwing DCT, the manual shift paddles work without having to use the manual mode button. If you override automatic mode by using the shift paddles, the transmission will revert to automatic after you stop using the paddles for a certain period of time. I have heard that though you hear the shifts, they are smooth, and you do not feel them at all. Second point, the turn indicators on the Goldwing are self canceling, based on a timer. If this bike has the same functionality, the turn signals cancel after about 7 or 10 seconds. I would imagine that the timer only activates when you are moving.
Can you please review the Kawasaki KLR 650? Yes, it is an old design, but very popular, and though there are many reviews on TH-cam, I would highly value your views.
Ciao.
This DCT is work exactly the same way. The indicators are not self cancelling. I review new bikes from the shop. Where to find KLR for test ride?
Sadly, the turn signals don't cancel automatically, they work just as standard.
There are many ways to secure one’s helmet to the sub frame. There is no need to gobble up space better used for extra clothing etc
Agree
Realy Good demonstration 👍
Thank you for a great review
Again, thank you Palvin for testing these bikes. I know that you will be having as much fun as my interest in watching. At the moment I have a Kawasaki kvf360 which I use most days for work and ride about 6 to 8 hours at a time. It is automatic and fun and has massive foot plates for easy standing. My question is this, how do you think that this bike would be if you made some adjustments and took it off road and had to stand for some time? I mean if you used the finger gear change rather than the automatic settings? Of course the stock set up is for road use, a little bit like the xt660x.
This is road bike. You can make a lot of changes, but at the end it will be road bike with some changes - I hope that you will get the idea.
Automatic gear (DCT) Honda motorbike is for me absolutely the best thing that was made in motorcycles. You have ridden DCT so you do not know that in this Honda NC750X man have to change gears very often. This is very unusual engine not typical for motorcycles. It is very low rpm engine and it cuts-off at 6500 rpm. Due to that DCT gear box is almost necessary. Travel speed about 150-160 km/h can be for sure no problem.
Ok, hard to believe, but...
Just try manual gear version. You will be surprised. Anyway it is very good motorcycle and this trunk instead of fuel tank is awesome. But it is, what i call, 1,5 person bike.
I looked for this video since a month later.. Tnx for test
You are welcome anytime!
Hi pavlin I rode a aprilia mana in 2008 ..same set up as honda the only minus was on coming down hill and you roll off throttle it sort off goes out of gear but re adjust and use brakes more...otherwise it's brilliant cheers good stuff as usual from dave
Thanks!
Honda is different, the DCT allows you to use engine braking coming down a hill by selecting a low gear. The Mana uses CVT like a scooter which means it feels like freewheeling and you have to use brakes to take speed off.
Who are you to judge? You are the potential customer that's who so you are right to judge it's your money.
The NC 750 X A sold in Australia only has a manual box, no DCT. Australia is the world's dumping ground for old automotive technologies. When the auto companies have exhausted their dumping in Australia, they move on to dumping in developing countries.
Sad
I have a Africa twin dct and have looked at one of these for a street commuter for a while because of the fuel mileage
For commuting is just perfect.
Thanks for the review. You mention the cruising speed is 120 KPH. That's about 65MPH right? The low torque is great, but for a typical rider, we want to be able to rev it out a bit. Having a motor that drives like a diesel engine is not good. I bought the 500x which has the traditional high rev engine. And that has a better power to weight ratio than the 750X. Faster when you need to quickly accelerate out of danger.
Everybody is different, I prefer quit engine.
I do cruising speed of 150-160 KPH, easy, and I am a big guy. I don't need any more than that. I reached 190, but I don't feel comfortable at that speeds. Once you learn how to ride it, you don't need more revs. CB500X was my first option, I tried it, but a few minutes later I tried the NC, I changed my mind after just 1 Km. NC is in a diferent league.
120 Kph is about 73 Mph.
120 mph is closer to 75 mph, and if you manage the throttle right it has plenty of power. I have the NZ 700 and I have had at over 90mph without problem.
NC
this is gonna be my next bike, im just so in love with it ,, but not with DCT
Very good bike.
Your channel was just suggested to me. I'm thinking of doing my A2 and I love the NC750 DCT already. Are you situated in Berlin? I will come and visit at the end of August. Maybe we should get together and meet.
yes, this bike is very capable even off-road with very good, low down torque engine. I did over 40k km, also in Morocco but no DCT, forget about DCT, unless you want to ride scooter.
It has some positives...