Size and performance kind of remind me of the MFD Crosswind, an older larger twin. T2 is just a bit on large side for me. Glad to see Heewing has another good well balance offering though. Do agree with Lee, an option for a longer wingspan (optional accessory), and longer tail boom could ad versatility to the T1. It's a nice size, and having added versatility of the design adding even more to the fun of flying.
Thanks Lee. I really love my T1 and AR Wing Pro's (still flying them old wings.. ). That said, this seems like an interesting cruiser for long range.. Thanks for sharing. - Will
Excellent review. The conclusion is spot on. Modifications to the T1 would (IMHO) hit the target as well and sharing some of the platform with T1 would save some design expenses (similarly to cars sharing platforms between models). It would be nice to have some innovation especially for the nose. For a plane of that size, the nose should be able to accommodate an action cam like GoPro. No need for an HD system to fight for a space with action cam in detachable nose. You should give Adam more exposure in your videos. He is like Columbo's wife or Hopkirk (and Randall) - always mentioned but never seen :o)))
Have you tried differential thrust mixed into the rudder? Might be a pain if you have to map the escs to individual channels, but might be worth it. There are a few twins that use dt instead of rudder. Happy landings 😊
Was your walksnail nose side mount enough cooling? I'm using the avatar gt so I'm concerned about cooling it. I printed your mount for inside the nose.
Hi Lee thanx for another excellent review , I'm going to go for the tx16 only because you got so many good video help tutorials on it, I'm deslexic and find it difficult reading and writing , after going through a lot of your very helpful vids, I still can not work out what I should buy that will work with the tx16, so may I ask you if you was starting out to try and do long range fpv for the first time what would you buy, I've got what I I need to start making the aircraft, it will be the PHOTON Motorglider using Experimental Airlines techniques , I got the foam and now looking at your best glue vid, lee if I may ask another question how high will I be able to fly, also after watching your vids with that other nice man who owns the website where by you enter info and it give you an answer, with him you spoke about how faster or how to fly longer , but I am trying to find out how to increase the pay load capacity of a plane ? also is there on your you tube a beginners guide to make something like what Experimental Airlines is doing , because I am 100 % that I will smash up this plane at least 50 times, but using his way of doing things at least I can remake the plane. any way thanks, now Im off to try and find out what to buy to work with my tx16 to start doing long range fpv, is it the ranger elrs module ? i can't find any where how high or how far i will be able to fly with it then we we have had google live feed range. if only you lived in London then i could come round give you the plane ask you to sort it out, and i would gladly buy you a couple of pints,😂😂😂
very nice plane, I wonder if it could be used to tow gliders as I believe it has options for landing gear and at 1500 it was pulling out of your flying buddy's hand?
Hello Friend! I recently bought a t2 cruise and it's a really effective and quiet plane..but also slow (especially when climbing). I wanted to ask you what propellers should I put on it to speed it up a bit? Should I try some 9 inch propellers? I know I can't get too much, but I don't expect to either. It currently has 8055 size propellers and 730kv sunnysky 2216 motors
Adding a larger prop can increase the current a motor draws dramatically. I have a 'motor and prop' playlist that covers it in detail. Increasing the prop diameter from 8 to 9" (with same pitch) will increase the amp draw by about 13%. Adding more pitch will increase it by a lot more. You need to be looking at extra pitch for additional speed but watch out for the max amperage.. th-cam.com/video/D2spz4CEn9o/w-d-xo.html
Hi Lee, Great flight video, I just love my Ranger T1 and I have looked at the T2 as my next plane. Thanks for the video and information about how the T2 flys.
@Painless360 Those are fine T1 alteration suggestions, but I got the T1 for its backpackability, so longer wings and tail are not for me. My 2m Opterra is great for motor-off soaring, if I want to thermal.
I built a t1 cone from laminate floor insulation (ended up 50-60 grams lighter than real t1). After the first few flights I ended up extending the tail boom by 20% and increased the wing root an tip and length by 20% as well. It's was extremely floaty and able to catch thermals extremely well which is what I wanted. I did unfortunately crash and total it but that was my error flying in terrible conditions. it will be rebuilt this winter all the electronics survived so I lost about £8 in insulation and about £3 of ply wood so not too bad.
How is the temp of your WS-VTX mounted in the side of the FPV bay? (if you still have it there) Did you end up having to add a fan for extended flight times or is it getting sufficient airflow? I've put a pan/tilt servo in the top of the bay so I'm concerned about venting. I'm worried about it being a dark plane in the hot summer sun here in Florida (USA), curious if you recall the temps you're getting and if you've flown on any particularly hot days? tyia
Excellent video as always! We call you professor !! Why would they put such a low KV motor in there :(. Put two 1250 KV, same size, and you have yourself a faster plane with only 4s.
Motor and prop selection is a trade off between max speed, static thrust and efficiency. Too much of one, you lose a lot of the other two. It's a tradeoff. See my video on it in the motor and prop series. The setup could be tweaked for different bland of strengths... Happy flying
There is a proof that a VTOL is scheduled because when you look the plug for the tail on the plane you see power connectors in addition to those of the servos
Hi. How do you prevent the propeller to hit the ground on landing ?! On mine, just on the maiden flight, the propeller scratched the ground and since then there is an unusual noise in the motor. This is my first twin pull model. I was used to large pushers like the Volantex untill now.
Does bidirectional dshot not work on the heewing fx405. I'm using channel 7,8,9 as my motot group. Everytime i mark those channels as bidirectional. Aurdupilot won't spin my Motors. Any suggestions?
No idea, I've never tried. Careful grouping and positioning of output channels with respect to the timers on the outputs. Things like this is why I stopped helping vendors who made flight controllers who didn't become paid up members of the Ardupilot project... Best of luck
@Painless360 oh, I thought heewing became an aurdupilot partner. My T1 vtol flys great using the parameters from your video with the updated filters and using dshot. It's a shame heewing didn't tune the T2 vtol kit ecu. Thank you for replying quickly.
T1.5 is what they should have made. T2 is more a mountain surfer or long-range project. Loooooooong range as in: long time to go some range. Actually thinking to buy a T1 and see if a Eachine Razor tailboom wil fit. (The razor crashed, tailboom survived).
@@Painless360 i actualy hoped they did the longer wings etc like you mentioned, but instead they went for oversize everything. hopefully they'll realise and do a T1.5 with bigger wings and longer tail.
observations 1:37 manufacturers continue to make DUMB basic design mistakes. the mass of wing-located servos should be located forward-of the thirty percent of chord line and as far inboard as is practical. the span of the elevator should not be truncated. there is one drawback to the use of foam. a foam wing has an abnormal span-wise dom. distribution of mass. 1:46 thick trailing edges make more DRAG, all of the time.!!! 7:14 it is the opposite of smart to make the tail HEAVIER, by putting servos there.!!! d
Size and performance kind of remind me of the MFD Crosswind, an older larger twin. T2 is just a bit on large side for me. Glad to see Heewing has another good well balance offering though.
Do agree with Lee, an option for a longer wingspan (optional accessory), and longer tail boom could ad versatility to the T1. It's a nice size, and having added versatility of the design adding even more to the fun of flying.
I've 2x Ranger T1's but really waiting for the VTOL version for more take-off & especially landing options. Nice review Lee
Check out my T2 with tricycle landing gears
just ordered a t1 which led me to your vids. good stuff very informative.
Thanks Lee. I really love my T1 and AR Wing Pro's (still flying them old wings.. ). That said, this seems like an interesting cruiser for long range.. Thanks for sharing. - Will
Amazing flying and review, Lee!!! 😃
Pretty amazing looking airplane!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Excellent review. The conclusion is spot on. Modifications to the T1 would (IMHO) hit the target as well and sharing some of the platform with T1 would save some design expenses (similarly to cars sharing platforms between models). It would be nice to have some innovation especially for the nose. For a plane of that size, the nose should be able to accommodate an action cam like GoPro. No need for an HD system to fight for a space with action cam in detachable nose.
You should give Adam more exposure in your videos. He is like Columbo's wife or Hopkirk (and Randall) - always mentioned but never seen :o)))
He's on the channel in a few places... th-cam.com/video/WmqYHwN2jLE/w-d-xo.html
Happy flying!
Have you tried differential thrust mixed into the rudder? Might be a pain if you have to map the escs to individual channels, but might be worth it. There are a few twins that use dt instead of rudder. Happy landings 😊
Inav 7 has automatic differential thrust setup if you select it. I use it on my atomrc penguin 🎉
That would be one way to aid the yaw control. I've not used it INAV 7 yet, in earlier versions it caused low speed crashes here... Happy flying
Waiting for VTOL variant.
There's a true Trooper for ya. Suffering the elements to review a flight! Weather here in Upper East, TN USA is miserable. Windy, wet and frigid.
Was your walksnail nose side mount enough cooling? I'm using the avatar gt so I'm concerned about cooling it. I printed your mount for inside the nose.
It worked great... Happy flying!
Hi Lee thanx for another excellent review , I'm going to go for the tx16 only because you got so many good video help tutorials on it, I'm deslexic and find it difficult reading and writing , after going through a lot of your very helpful vids, I still can not work out what I should buy that will work with the tx16, so may I ask you if you was starting out to try and do long range fpv for the first time what would you buy, I've got what I I need to start making the aircraft, it will be the PHOTON Motorglider using Experimental Airlines techniques , I got the foam and now looking at your best glue vid, lee if I may ask another question how high will I be able to fly, also after watching your vids with that other nice man who owns the website where by you enter info and it give you an answer, with him you spoke about how faster or how to fly longer , but I am trying to find out how to increase the pay load capacity of a plane ? also is there on your you tube a beginners guide to make something like what Experimental Airlines is doing , because I am 100 % that I will smash up this plane at least 50 times, but using his way of doing things at least I can remake the plane. any way thanks, now Im off to try and find out what to buy to work with my tx16 to start doing long range fpv, is it the ranger elrs module ? i can't find any where how high or how far i will be able to fly with it then we we have had google live feed range. if only you lived in London then i could come round give you the plane ask you to sort it out, and i would gladly buy you a couple of pints,😂😂😂
Long-range flying isn't legal here in the UK, but I've made videos about the theory and kit to use... best of luck
@@Painless360 ok thanks Lee.
very nice plane, I wonder if it could be used to tow gliders as I believe it has options for landing gear and at 1500 it was pulling out of your flying buddy's hand?
Very possibly, that could be one of the 'jobs' Adam was talking about!
Hello Friend! I recently bought a t2 cruise and it's a really effective and quiet plane..but also slow (especially when climbing). I wanted to ask you what propellers should I put on it to speed it up a bit? Should I try some 9 inch propellers? I know I can't get too much, but I don't expect to either.
It currently has 8055 size propellers and 730kv sunnysky 2216 motors
Adding a larger prop can increase the current a motor draws dramatically. I have a 'motor and prop' playlist that covers it in detail. Increasing the prop diameter from 8 to 9" (with same pitch) will increase the amp draw by about 13%. Adding more pitch will increase it by a lot more. You need to be looking at extra pitch for additional speed but watch out for the max amperage..
th-cam.com/video/D2spz4CEn9o/w-d-xo.html
Hi Lee, Great flight video, I just love my Ranger T1 and I have looked at the T2 as my next plane. Thanks for the video and information about how the T2 flys.
Thanks for watching. What did you think of my ideas for the T1 at the end of the video?
@Painless360 Those are fine T1 alteration suggestions, but I got the T1 for its backpackability, so longer wings and tail are not for me. My 2m Opterra is great for motor-off soaring, if I want to thermal.
I built a t1 cone from laminate floor insulation (ended up 50-60 grams lighter than real t1). After the first few flights I ended up extending the tail boom by 20% and increased the wing root an tip and length by 20% as well. It's was extremely floaty and able to catch thermals extremely well which is what I wanted. I did unfortunately crash and total it but that was my error flying in terrible conditions. it will be rebuilt this winter all the electronics survived so I lost about £8 in insulation and about £3 of ply wood so not too bad.
Can you share your build video pls?@@jamesemery1
How is the temp of your WS-VTX mounted in the side of the FPV bay? (if you still have it there) Did you end up having to add a fan for extended flight times or is it getting sufficient airflow? I've put a pan/tilt servo in the top of the bay so I'm concerned about venting. I'm worried about it being a dark plane in the hot summer sun here in Florida (USA), curious if you recall the temps you're getting and if you've flown on any particularly hot days? tyia
Temp good. No need for a fan. Happy flying
@@Painless360 Thanks for the fast response, btw LOVE the content!! ty
Hi Lee, thanks for this very informative video. Have you considered to do a tutorial on how to setup the T1 on INAV 7? Cheers 👍
See my video on VTOLs that came out just after Xmas. Videos in INAV VTOL planned when 7.1 is out...
Excellent video as always! We call you professor !! Why would they put such a low KV motor in there :(. Put two 1250 KV, same size, and you have yourself a faster plane with only 4s.
Motor and prop selection is a trade off between max speed, static thrust and efficiency. Too much of one, you lose a lot of the other two. It's a tradeoff. See my video on it in the motor and prop series.
The setup could be tweaked for different bland of strengths... Happy flying
th-cam.com/video/YISf-tepO_A/w-d-xo.html
There is a proof that a VTOL is scheduled because when you look the plug for the tail on the plane you see power connectors in addition to those of the servos
Hi! Do you think this would fly in a 3kg MTOW set-up 🤔
Awesome ! was that flight in WS DVR ?
Walksnail HD in this, see my build video below... Happy flying
Hi. How do you prevent the propeller to hit the ground on landing ?! On mine, just on the maiden flight, the propeller scratched the ground and since then there is an unusual noise in the motor. This is my first twin pull model. I was used to large pushers like the Volantex untill now.
Only by fitting landing gear or skids. Even esc brake won't completely remove the chance of a blade strike... Happy flying
How would you compare this to the swordfish ? Appears not as fast, high speed vs low speed flight ?
Check out my flight review of the Swordfish. The use of the star rating allows for a direct comparison. Happy flying!
Does bidirectional dshot not work on the heewing fx405. I'm using channel 7,8,9 as my motot group. Everytime i mark those channels as bidirectional. Aurdupilot won't spin my Motors. Any suggestions?
No idea, I've never tried. Careful grouping and positioning of output channels with respect to the timers on the outputs. Things like this is why I stopped helping vendors who made flight controllers who didn't become paid up members of the Ardupilot project... Best of luck
@Painless360 oh, I thought heewing became an aurdupilot partner. My T1 vtol flys great using the parameters from your video with the updated filters and using dshot. It's a shame heewing didn't tune the T2 vtol kit ecu. Thank you for replying quickly.
Off subject but I respect your opinion. I'm looking to get back into FPV and not certain what goggles to get that are great but not break the bank.
th-cam.com/video/cxF7W_f6S_8/w-d-xo.html
Could you fly this on a 4S 21700 battery pack ?
I wouldn't. This is built for 6s...Best of luck
Nice!
T1.5 is what they should have made.
T2 is more a mountain surfer or long-range project. Loooooooong range as in: long time to go some range.
Actually thinking to buy a T1 and see if a Eachine Razor tailboom wil fit. (The razor crashed, tailboom survived).
The idea of the T1.5 is a great one... At least Heewing now have a name if they make it... Happy flying
@@Painless360 i actualy hoped they did the longer wings etc like you mentioned, but instead they went for oversize everything.
hopefully they'll realise and do a T1.5 with bigger wings and longer tail.
I’m happy I went with the Penguin over this one 🎉
observations 1:37 manufacturers continue to make DUMB basic design mistakes. the mass of wing-located servos should be located forward-of the thirty percent of chord line and as far inboard as is practical. the span of the elevator should not be truncated. there is one drawback to the use of foam. a foam wing has an abnormal span-wise dom. distribution of mass. 1:46 thick trailing edges make more DRAG, all of the time.!!! 7:14 it is the opposite of smart to make the tail HEAVIER, by putting servos there.!!! d
soo big...