Fire puppeteer is nerfed for rta, the slow was much better in Haegang/Eshir/Zima comps for turn cycling, silence is less useful in a passive meta. Zima was a turn 2 counter, now it’s worse at its job
I am so happy I didn't just build a bunch of wind mermaids yet. I was near the point where I was moving on from another monster family to start building them.
I cannot believe that after all this time complaining about my Jaara being horrible for a dark nat5, they...took away the only thing I used him for. I cannot snipe Odin defenses with him anymore, so his runes are going elsewhere. Unreal.
Still, the chance to only get 3 shots in per unit is the one that's killing it and they're not changing it. With so many counters, surely 4 hits per unit as a minimum would make him usable. At least, I would.
Looked you up for this video literally a minute ago and it wasn’t there. Started searching someone else instead and then the notification for this video and hopped straight over!
Yet another amazing balance patch that will absolutely bring new players to games. Surely the balance patch of all time for the hit game Summoner's War.
It would be cool if the dark phoenix passive was something like revives and attacks the monster that dealt the killing blow with his s1. This attack always lands as a critical hit. I think that would fit thematically and finally make him more useful than wind robo...
Honestly though, as for the light Ninetails she is REALLY great, and s3 practically covers the healing nerf anyways. I love her and enjoy using her in RTA as a replacement pick for the fire monkey king if the enemy takes him from me.
wind bayek went from a dot bruiser that heals and does more damage based on debuffs to a dot that can do eather 5% or 10% of its hp as damage meaning a 40K hp tank gets 2k extra damage on s1 and 4k on s2... they really dont know what to do with that unit so they just keep fking it into the ground
Artifacts can help aswell. Dmg by hp% def% atk%. If he already has a chance to do 10% of his max hp then get artifacts that deal damage based on his atk/def. It's really not hard to figure out. Artifacts are there for us to tweak the monster to our desire.
i still preferred him with his damage scaling on debuffs since only s2 scales off HP... and now he lost all sustain too so you can build it tanky and use hp scaling artifacts that help s2 but s1 is still a hot mess and again the added damage is minimal for even the thickest hp tanks @@chosenpuncake9389
Thanks for the Balance patch. I mainly use Okeanos in ToA situationally right now. I haven't gotten into pvp due to lack of runes. So I'm curious if his tweak will be of benefit to me. So far the only new nat 5 summons from the anniversary, are a choice between wind or water Dokkaebi Lords. Plenty more spots to summon, so I am waiting. But I wonder about the buffs for him.
As a 2x kinki owner, im pretty sad that the nerf they chose is what they did. I could see lowering the heal percentage or reducing the damage on s1 or something that still has the desired effect, but removing the counterattack heal entirely removed a ton of uses for kinki. they already nerfed his staying power when they changed gauranteed crit units. Id be tempted to put kinki on revenge now and im curious if revenge and s3 can both proc from the same hit. I get the need for a nerf but it's an ld4 that isn't hoh, it's supposed to be good, yk?
I yawned threw this balance patch all the way until the last monster on the list. That dark giant warrior buff will allow me to pull him out of storage now 💯
Im kind of curious how kinki is going to work with revenge runes. Does the passive just override the revenge mechanic and he counters with 1 hit or maybe the other way around and he hits 2 times and heals or maybe they forget about this scenario and we will get some unexpected behaviour that will have to be fixed asap. I'm like 99% sure it will be the first case I mentioned but you never know with com2us...
pretty sure the passive counterattack takes priority over the revenge runes, might be worth checking if revenge runes can trigger when the passive doesn't
This patch has no negative impact on my account but damn they did some people dirty. Com2us with the memes.They spit on the nine tailed foxes. Slapped Tien Lang on the wrist. Throw sand into wind bayek eyes. Why tho...
I feel they would made dark dokkaebi lord an anti heal unit, "reduce healing effect by the enemy by 100%" this would have been really defining. And for thr gargoyle i feel they should change their provoke, to a taunt
Wow, these idiots nerfed my jaara instead of buff... like bro, that was my boy for these revives, like who the fk builds jaara without enough crit..like bro, this is dog water.
Kinki nerf almost guarantees a pick an ld4 event. Wouldn’t be surprised if tablo and dark boom get touched next patch before 4th event (the one with arta as the icon)
i hate when they do blanket nerfs instead of just nerfing one of the family. mo long loses skill 2.. why. occult girls mostly arent used outside lora and nicki in rta. wind and water r super rare and fire is also rare as a last pick.
Guess the problem lies with the top tier builds main hp/ sub atk so they removed the damage that... Wasn't really there? Don't know but it confuses that they crossed the hp scaling - did they do so much crazy damage due to the hp scaling on s2?
I keep asking for it, I want a change to Geldnir's passive. Not a buff or nerf, but instead a change. The other units in his family have something cool happen when they use their skill at 5 stacks, Geldnir doesn't have any really visual difference and just heals more. I would be happy if he healed less but did something cool like maybe restore the HP of all team members by X% of their total life, or cleanse all debuffs from the target healed.
That fire undine op she can use skill 1 all day long and cleanse and heal? I like where com2us is going. And that light undines passive is amazing. I say get the headache medicine ready, i can imagine both units in siege defense with violent runes.
i think Light Undine suffers from this. She had a guarantee strip that removed everything and a full team cleanse whilst protecting a unit (including herself) for 3 turns. now you remove 1 only if you haven't got more buffs which is annoying, and the passive doesn't work on her or cleanse anyone which is a big nerf. Yeah, she gets a nice heal, but it's to the unit with the lowest health and only for 1 turn. i feel this change takes away your control over her and places it down to more circumstances as to when she can use her skills making her less consistent. still gonna give her a shot since she is 1 of my fav units, but would be nice if she had cleanse 1 harmful effect when she gives invisibility to a ally.
If the light undine vio procs... then she heals herself again and puts the invincible shield.... on the same mon that already got it in her first turn. How does vio help except her healing herself?
Am I the only one who thinks the dark gargoyle buff is the stupidest thing in ever? I can't wait to see the full resist 0 speed quad dark gargoyle arena stall defs. Sure gonna be the death of any fast cleave that's for sure unless your a lucky grogen owner.
I'm pissed that every dokaebi lord got buffed but the water one. Is he actually good, and I'm just sleeping on him? Please tell me I'm not alone on this
i read this when it was posted on fb they changed some things in this, one of which is Gapsoo/Dark Dok Lord i swear it said "Removes 1 harmful effect granted on the enemy with the worst HP status" 😂
I use my Zima, i definitely prefer the silence lol. I already use him with other ATB manipulation units, speed break was nice but nothing super impactful, silence tho' can stop a unit that slips thru all the ATB reduction/other CC'.
Yet again the nerfs are instigated due to rng. Something is OP if it violent procs? Nerf the unit so that the runes aren't an issue. Why not just nerf proc chance, or better yet, restrict procs to +1 on all pvp content. Ganymede, occult girls etc would no longer need the nerf. Gany hathor used to be op, because many could ventilate himself. With violent procs he became obscene. So nerf him because violent procs made him too good? Seems ridiculous.
Kinki will still be strong for siege offence in tractor kinki + racuni/tetra In those offences he's really just there as one of the if not best nat 4 tank He's definitely a whole lot worse in rta and siege defence (where he hasn't really been a thing for a whole) and a pretty worse on AD where his purpose was adding a squeeze factor on AOs by being on defences where cleaving the other three safely entails leaving him alive. Camilla however is the better AD unit outside of probably double AD meta LD5 defences so no biggie.
@@tiziank.6975Kinki is quite easily the best Nat4 in the game overall, so what are you even waffling about him only being decent? He’s better than most Nat 5’s/LD Nat 5’s. The unit has a 51/52% winrate in RTA with a 20% pick rate as a Nat4 so come on. I agree that he didn‘t need a nerf since he really isn’t broken but stop with this nonsense.
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Waited all day to see bagel's reaction to dark gargoyle buff xD
well he saw it before video so it was much less than it could be ;p
Bro where can i read that monster balance patch? I cant find it in my event menu
Fire puppeteer is nerfed for rta, the slow was much better in Haegang/Eshir/Zima comps for turn cycling, silence is less useful in a passive meta. Zima was a turn 2 counter, now it’s worse at its job
Balance Patch on a scale of 1-10, this is about a 2.5.
Geez-us...10yrs in the bag and this is what we are doing?
Heeeey. They fixed the dark dokkaebi lords buff. When the notes first came out it said remove a debuff from the enemy with the lowest HP condition
I am so happy I didn't just build a bunch of wind mermaids yet. I was near the point where I was moving on from another monster family to start building them.
I cannot believe that after all this time complaining about my Jaara being horrible for a dark nat5, they...took away the only thing I used him for. I cannot snipe Odin defenses with him anymore, so his runes are going elsewhere. Unreal.
They did jaara dirty man 😩😩😩
They really want Oke back in the meta. He's gotten so many buffs recently
Still, the chance to only get 3 shots in per unit is the one that's killing it and they're not changing it. With so many counters, surely 4 hits per unit as a minimum would make him usable. At least, I would.
Which is pathetic because the community wanted him nerfed like a year and a half ago and it worked
I think that his s1 could be buffed to not just transfer a debuff that's on him, but replace a buff that's on the enemy to a debuff that's on him
Looked you up for this video literally a minute ago and it wasn’t there. Started searching someone else instead and then the notification for this video and hopped straight over!
Com2us is 100% watching your videos, and doing what you suggest.
They don't want you to leave 😂
I Hope he predict a Lydia buff 👀
@@fukopiUmm... Lydia's fine. She's a turn 2 mon that can one-shot a whole enemy team. What more you want?
@@byeebitch you don't really know Lydia if you say that she's fine because she "can one-shot a whole enemy team"
Yet another amazing balance patch that will absolutely bring new players to games.
Surely the balance patch of all time for the hit game Summoner's War.
😂
Out of all the balance patches in this game, this is definitely one of them
Nice joke.
Another w for honkai and genshin 💜
I rather play further Palworld not this shit game lmao. Scam2us has to uppen there game or else the game will die soon.
It would be cool if the dark phoenix passive was something like revives and attacks the monster that dealt the killing blow with his s1. This attack always lands as a critical hit. I think that would fit thematically and finally make him more useful than wind robo...
Honestly though, as for the light Ninetails she is REALLY great, and s3 practically covers the healing nerf anyways. I love her and enjoy using her in RTA as a replacement pick for the fire monkey king if the enemy takes him from me.
29:35 He missed the fact that dark undine grants life steal to leo so he doesn’t need vampire anymore
Isn’t that only on the allies that are already alive? I don’t think it gives the buff to the unit it brings back
@@jesee8866 would have to see when the patch arrives
thumbnail 10/10 very good job.
wind bayek went from a dot bruiser that heals and does more damage based on debuffs to a dot that can do eather 5% or 10% of its hp as damage meaning a 40K hp tank gets 2k extra damage on s1 and 4k on s2... they really dont know what to do with that unit so they just keep fking it into the ground
Meanwhile Miles does 8k per hit and is 300 spd on violent with bad runes lol
Artifacts can help aswell. Dmg by hp% def% atk%.
If he already has a chance to do 10% of his max hp then get artifacts that deal damage based on his atk/def. It's really not hard to figure out. Artifacts are there for us to tweak the monster to our desire.
i still preferred him with his damage scaling on debuffs since only s2 scales off HP... and now he lost all sustain too so you can build it tanky and use hp scaling artifacts that help s2 but s1 is still a hot mess and again the added damage is minimal for even the thickest hp tanks
@@chosenpuncake9389
It's 5% max hp per harmful effect
shahat actually had a typo last time he was buffed, and now yet ANOTHER one. but he'll be a good unit now.
if it is that then yea, im very hopeful for this unit i have 3 but the previous buffs have done nothing @@imuploading
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As a Jaara Main, I Quit Summoners War For What They Just Did
I watched omg food videos to unlock this upload
Wonder if kinki on rev rune, which skill will active when both passive and rev proc...
Nerf patch... shame scam2us... that's just lazy
haven't played sw or seen your videos in many years. good to see you doing well 🍻
Strip into a silence is essentially a strip into skill cooldown…that’s amazing
Vamps, Nine-Tales, Undines and Gargoyles were in your previous video along with the Archangels
Thanks for the Balance patch. I mainly use Okeanos in ToA situationally right now. I haven't gotten into pvp due to lack of runes. So I'm curious if his tweak will be of benefit to me.
So far the only new nat 5 summons from the anniversary, are a choice between wind or water Dokkaebi Lords. Plenty more spots to summon, so I am waiting. But I wonder about the buffs for him.
Rip me as a Jaara owner IG. I liked it better when she was an anti revive now I have only Grogen for that ;-;
As a 2x kinki owner, im pretty sad that the nerf they chose is what they did. I could see lowering the heal percentage or reducing the damage on s1 or something that still has the desired effect, but removing the counterattack heal entirely removed a ton of uses for kinki. they already nerfed his staying power when they changed gauranteed crit units. Id be tempted to put kinki on revenge now and im curious if revenge and s3 can both proc from the same hit. I get the need for a nerf but it's an ld4 that isn't hoh, it's supposed to be good, yk?
Wow, already whining. Quit your moaning, he needed a nerf A LONG TIME AGO.
lol and your predictions come true xD
halphas katarina and light undine bout to be op
as that one old quack who unironically uses dark undine with my ramagos this pleases me.
I yawned threw this balance patch all the way until the last monster on the list. That dark giant warrior buff will allow me to pull him out of storage now 💯
I mean, 12 lines just for undine. Im speechless lol.
The problem lies in the detail - either the specified names of the skills or the activation condition
finally gargoyle start as statue
I was thinking about using light undine with dark asura to make an invincible threat state target. Haven't tried it yet but I do have both units
Im kind of curious how kinki is going to work with revenge runes. Does the passive just override the revenge mechanic and he counters with 1 hit or maybe the other way around and he hits 2 times and heals or maybe they forget about this scenario and we will get some unexpected behaviour that will have to be fixed asap. I'm like 99% sure it will be the first case I mentioned but you never know with com2us...
pretty sure the passive counterattack takes priority over the revenge runes, might be worth checking if revenge runes can trigger when the passive doesn't
@@buttsaggington6379that sounds stupid revenge runs revenges using skill one not skill 3(passive)
@@ricowilliamson6299 I put triple rev on dark asura and it never counterattacked with s1, just the passive counterattack
@@buttsaggington6379 oh ok then I’m goofy
Looking forward for wind Dokkaebi princess in siege
I saw ppl upload yesterday but specifically waited for bagel 😂 fell asleep now I'm seeing it
Water and dark dokekaebi princesses could be a wombo combo for RTA control teams. Less damage and attack bar issues? Definitely a good counter.
14:55 that single target anti-revive was useless, now dark phoenix can at least hit hard enough to kill
Is it actually a buff on Okeanos? Taking away the increase atk bar?
I think the idea was to not have him turn cycle - didn't seem useful - but to give the entire team the chance to turn the tables
You didnt notice in the video but all the undines have a different condition to activate their skill 1 now
This patch has no negative impact on my account but damn they did some people dirty. Com2us with the memes.They spit on the nine tailed foxes. Slapped Tien Lang on the wrist. Throw sand into wind bayek eyes. Why tho...
By the logic of rng of occult girls skill 1 needing a nerf they should also remove theomars going 4 turns killing my whole team
5:50 vampire Build XD
I feel they would made dark dokkaebi lord an anti heal unit, "reduce healing effect by the enemy by 100%" this would have been really defining. And for thr gargoyle i feel they should change their provoke, to a taunt
thank you for the great video
Exactly!!! Waited all day for your view, had to watch another content creator
I kinda want to see that undine, Leo combo. I don't know if I even have that undine
Hanra light undine could be fun
Time to do 5 undines in rta lets gooooooooooo!!!!
now I need atk on tian lang. they will change it to hp just for filler patch again
I don't know what will I feel about this patch
3:21 of course this happened after I got my Tian Lang and fully built him
Big shit Patch gg
Wow, these idiots nerfed my jaara instead of buff... like bro, that was my boy for these revives, like who the fk builds jaara without enough crit..like bro, this is dog water.
Watch me summon a light onimusha as soon as this balance patch roll out😂😂😂
Dark Phoenix is such a joke i wait another 3 years
Kinki nerf almost guarantees a pick an ld4 event.
Wouldn’t be surprised if tablo and dark boom get touched next patch before 4th event (the one with arta as the icon)
Oh I would love to have pick ld4 event
Dark boom isn't that good tbh, it's just that shaina is broken.
@@dudono1744its the combination of both thats scary, without her twins shes basically a chilling
@@johnandrewliem I mean the constant strip wouldn't be nearly as scary without constant def break.
i hate when they do blanket nerfs instead of just nerfing one of the family. mo long loses skill 2.. why. occult girls mostly arent used outside lora and nicki in rta. wind and water r super rare and fire is also rare as a last pick.
Guess the problem lies with the top tier builds main hp/ sub atk so they removed the damage that... Wasn't really there? Don't know but it confuses that they crossed the hp scaling - did they do so much crazy damage due to the hp scaling on s2?
Had to nerf stuff to make room for the new units. Forces people to use the new stuff.
I keep asking for it, I want a change to Geldnir's passive. Not a buff or nerf, but instead a change. The other units in his family have something cool happen when they use their skill at 5 stacks, Geldnir doesn't have any really visual difference and just heals more. I would be happy if he healed less but did something cool like maybe restore the HP of all team members by X% of their total life, or cleanse all debuffs from the target healed.
Light undine and katarina.
That fire undine op she can use skill 1 all day long and cleanse and heal? I like where com2us is going. And that light undines passive is amazing. I say get the headache medicine ready, i can imagine both units in siege defense with violent runes.
i think Light Undine suffers from this. She had a guarantee strip that removed everything and a full team cleanse whilst protecting a unit (including herself) for 3 turns.
now you remove 1 only if you haven't got more buffs which is annoying, and the passive doesn't work on her or cleanse anyone which is a big nerf. Yeah, she gets a nice heal, but it's to the unit with the lowest health and only for 1 turn.
i feel this change takes away your control over her and places it down to more circumstances as to when she can use her skills making her less consistent.
still gonna give her a shot since she is 1 of my fav units, but would be nice if she had cleanse 1 harmful effect when she gives invisibility to a ally.
If the light undine vio procs... then she heals herself again and puts the invincible shield.... on the same mon that already got it in her first turn.
How does vio help except her healing herself?
Just put vamp and nemesis on kinki.
Could be the idea - either more turn with vio or heal with vamp, both seemed to op or so
You can do videos of everything from top to bottom. Yes please.
Am I the only one who thinks the dark gargoyle buff is the stupidest thing in ever? I can't wait to see the full resist 0 speed quad dark gargoyle arena stall defs. Sure gonna be the death of any fast cleave that's for sure unless your a lucky grogen owner.
to be honest though, if we had your genuine FIRST reaction, that would make the video more entertaining.
I must say i vsed this nicki today and it procked 4x in a row but i definitely would not nerf that as this type of rng is kinda funny.
Feels like a vio Yen somehow... ^^'
I'd really like to see Wind Indra buff
For me it's the light fox, she was already good. She needs a different rune set now but im thinking triple nem and crazy good in seige Def
Com2us buffs undines to sell their skins lmao
Dark Undine + Leo+ Beelzebub=Happy me
Interesting idea... Might take a shot at the dark undine and see if Beelze gets more fun to play with xd
I'm pissed that every dokaebi lord got buffed but the water one. Is he actually good, and I'm just sleeping on him? Please tell me I'm not alone on this
The water one is crazy good. He is on the same tier maybe even a better fire bison.
water ones a top unit even in guardian rta
@@Jzwiz oof gtk, but can I ask why?
Yea you're living under a rock😅 he's decent
cc, atb absorb, self sustain. flat damage.@@nkirmath8621 hes like a water karnal
welp, time to rune my kinki on vamp, lol, he still be godly
I have had Tian Lang for 6 years now and I can feel that S2 nerf like a mf. I still love him though. Enjoyed the video! Keep up the great work Bagel.
Give light Oni vamp/rev runes and confuse your opponents after the update
I build Kinki exactly like this so no changes there after the update... xd
I bet now will be the time I get the light Onimusha.
I only have 4 LD nat fives after almost 10 years, and two of them are Nicki and Tian Lang. This patch is a personal attack to me at least.
The wind mermaid nerf blows my m8nd she was in a good spot for rta
Mo Long nerf? Awesome. Now I'm sure I'll finally get him
Buff?
@@marcelagiorgi3450 Nerfed s2, buffed s3
Block beneficial effect changes are so just to give more options for pve imo
i read this when it was posted on fb
they changed some things in this, one of which is Gapsoo/Dark Dok Lord
i swear it said
"Removes 1 harmful effect granted on the enemy with the worst HP status" 😂
Lol i pulled my only kinki on my l/d account only and this, i was just starting to enjoy him in rta.
had to stop by like and comment even tho i dont play anymore
I use my Zima, i definitely prefer the silence lol. I already use him with other ATB manipulation units, speed break was nice but nothing super impactful, silence tho' can stop a unit that slips thru all the ATB reduction/other CC'.
Yet again the nerfs are instigated due to rng. Something is OP if it violent procs? Nerf the unit so that the runes aren't an issue. Why not just nerf proc chance, or better yet, restrict procs to +1 on all pvp content. Ganymede, occult girls etc would no longer need the nerf. Gany hathor used to be op, because many could ventilate himself. With violent procs he became obscene. So nerf him because violent procs made him too good? Seems ridiculous.
Kinki will still be strong for siege offence in tractor kinki + racuni/tetra
In those offences he's really just there as one of the if not best nat 4 tank
He's definitely a whole lot worse in rta and siege defence (where he hasn't really been a thing for a whole) and a pretty worse on AD where his purpose was adding a squeeze factor on AOs by being on defences where cleaving the other three safely entails leaving him alive. Camilla however is the better AD unit outside of probably double AD meta LD5 defences so no biggie.
He was mid before this patch. I don't get why he got nerfed at all. He didnt need it. He went from decent to bad
@@tiziank.6975Kinki is quite easily the best Nat4 in the game overall, so what are you even waffling about him only being decent? He’s better than most Nat 5’s/LD Nat 5’s. The unit has a 51/52% winrate in RTA with a 20% pick rate as a Nat4 so come on.
I agree that he didn‘t need a nerf since he really isn’t broken but stop with this nonsense.
@SchizophrenicGamer Do you still do summons and account reviews and or show offs ?
Agree, its com2us rng not the monster, i dont have lora or nicki though 😂😂😂
Light undi e + water demon +1 single target healer
We have a BIG uhhhh A BIG UPDATE
A little house wtf haha
Some of the units that got nerfed were on my list of most wanted ones, now that they’ve been nerfed I’ll get them 😂😂 like Molly 🙃
On the bright side bagel will finally get light oni in HOH with that fat nerf lol
Moron. You don't know that any 4* mon that has 3*s or 5*s as other elements can't have HoH? 🤦🏿♀️
Meanwhile eladriel still waiting for an s3 buff.
Fire Indra 🙌🏼
buff for 9 tails foxes:
give them stat blocks that dont look like 2* units.
Do you really think the light sapsaree nerf was necessary?
Is this the rise of Vampire Kinki? Lmao
This patch is crazy, they are complicating things Even more. Like, whos gonna build attack Mo long? smh
On top tier it is common to put atk in subs for a dmg tweak... But yeah, aside top tier this was a wasted and unnecessary confusion
I just got light panda warrior and we got this patch. I hope it will still be good 😅
Pulled Veronica then Com2us proceeded to nerf her s2 into the ground.
He will still be really good don't worry. He will just deals less damage
and yet shes still like the best unit@@lambson43
And yet he still probably crys about how bad she is@Jzwiz
@@funnystranger3380 her s3 is still really good, but the s2 is really lackluster now.