Any tips on using renoise in a live application like this? It looks like you organize your music a specific way. I’ve been using renoise for the last 10 years or so but I feel like my songs are all over the place so I have no idea where to start to get this kind of workflow goin.
Hey friend. For me personally, I tend to create percussion patterns to start with. I will render patterns of drums I've created into instrument slots. I will do my best to add some variety to the sound timbres (process things differently) for each loop. Usually about 10 samples is nice to start with. Once I get nice rhythm rolling with the loops in this 'Song Instance', I will open a separate instance of Renoise in the background to work on some basslines. So I get the rhythm playing in the Song instance and then in the second instance of Renoise I will audition basslines by hitting the spacebar at just the right time. It's easier than people think - you really don't need to sync anything. Next, I render my 8 bars of bassline to WAV, and make another 8 bars..etc. I like to use the 'randomize notes' tool for inspiration sometimes on my existing bassline. Great tool. I just chose a particular key and scale - and make some additional tweaks as I go. Also, when rendering, I render 'each pattern to a separate file'. That way each exported bar of my bassline can be imported into an instrument slot in the song instance of Renoise. By getting my bassline in chunks it can easily be referenced, sequenced and mixed up using the sample offset command (OSxx) in the pattern editor. Perhaps I do this because I'm a control freak and like to be able to access the bits easily. Using one bar loops with OSxx works for me. Sometimes when I'm working on a new song, I'll become completely stumped for ideas. No problem, I just make some new drums at the right tempo (without even listening to my song). I used Korg Gadget LE App on my phone today to make beats and it was wonderful. I added them into the song and was pleasantly surprised at how well they fit. Recently I've been stressed out and I make fast music because it seems to calm me down. I think I read somewhere, if you want to get a project done quickly hand it off to someone who is already busy. They will surely complete it fast. Maybe if I wasn't so busy, I would be less inclined to produce. Stay busy!? lol I have no idea, friend.
@@hitoritori thank you so much for the reply!! I’m definitely going to explore the idea of writing different parts in different instances of renoise. Been looking into the more generative aspects of renoise too. Seems like I could do some interesting stuff with probabilities on sequences and phrases.
Sounds nice and I think that will be a great way to go:) I’m interested to hear what you’ll try. Red Hoot Oboe Monger’s generative use of phrases has been pretty inspiring so far. He has kindly shared a few of his generative song file examples on the Renoise forum. I’m sure you’ve likely checked those out already, ha. Keep in touch friend!
@@hitoritori yes that’s what piqued my interest! I was trying to do more generative works in Renoise a few years ago with random lfos applied to different effects but found it pretty difficult to make anything sound good haha. I’m also exploring tidalcycles a bit too to see if I can incorporate that with renoise somehow in a live sense. Maybe like cutting a break via tidal while renoise plays a sequence of melodies. Haven’t gotten a chance to dig too deep into that yet, but I’ve seen ORCA working in tandem with renoise and it looks like a fun tool.
I remember I made a doofer tool that could chop drums using the stutter effect and that was pretty good for generative drums in renoise. The new probability command takes that to a whole new level!
By scenes, I assume you mean instances (copies of the Renoise application open). Yes, I map them manually and those mappings stay locked to the songs after saving. When mapping, I personally recommend using a different colour theme for each instance. By keeping your midi assignments consistent to the left or right side of the controller it will make things easier. It also helps with hand-eye coordination / ear-to-hand coordination.
@@hitoritori Thanks for the heads up! I'll try it with renoise 2.8 soon. I'm completely stunned by your work! Never seen anything like it before - at least not with Renoise, which is not very used for live performances.
Buttons!! Yes friend. Most of the grid is assigned to trigger 'play next pattern' in the green instance. The triggered patterns are very short and each contains 1/8 of a drum break. Each break is spread over 8 patterns using the offset pattern command. The top row of buttons on the controller will solo a particular track. There's even a MIDI track devoted to the Electribe Sampler with audio coming back via soundcard and line-in device (set to midi return mode) . All of this is happening in the green instance. Other buttons are assigned to trigger various effects in all three instances (red, blue, green) of Renoise.
What controller are you using to play? I'm looking for something similar that could control 16 channels - can this controller do that? If not, can you please recommend a controller that can? Many thanks. BTW, some crazy playing. With such fast hand movements, you should be able to pull some crazy moves on a joystick playing fighting games!
Thanks for the kind words. This does feel like a game to me sometimes. The controller is an OHM 64 from Livid Instruments. They don't manufacture these anymore, however you might be able to find a used one online somewhere. In terms of 16 channels, I've used this controller to control 8 stereo channels - with two channels mapped per fader. As you can see there are also potentiometers that can be assigned to your channels as well. It's really just a blank slate and you can assign your midi however you like. For a full 16 individual midi channels you could try an Allen & Heath ZED R-16 as your Control Surface.
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I like the part with the fast drums
It sounds even better at 2x playback speed
this is absolutely insane and criminally underrated i cant imagine how hard it is to make this shit
@_gambetta_6438you have to be trolling
This is sick ! I cant imagine the work behind this liveset :o
I like that your "DJ decks" are just different renoise windows
32:02 oh my god, release this please
open.spotify.com/track/2f5iGBeOrevW0vmJjN9FKl
dude its insane
i didnt even thinkin about usin renoise this way u do
God damn!
the second renoise window made me gasp like-
what HHHUUHHH?????????
Teach me your ways!
Your renoise legit operates 10x faster than mine 😂
if you started making tutorials about this i would watch them all
Yeah!
Same
BEYOND INSANITY!! the end Boss!!
WOW
nice one, glad i found Hitori Tori :)
Re-watching and re-enjoying. And learning. "09 lessons learned LIVE A" (in the purple instance) theme is the best of the best! You should release it!
Thanks friend. Lesson Learned was released on Severed Digit Recordings (CAN) a few years ago, as part of a label compilation called Never Severed
@@hitoritori Thanks!! Found it in youtube music!
Awesome!
I worship a new god
Can you do a set breakdown? Dig some of this immensely.
0:00 Intro sequence
0:45 DUM (TBR)
4:11 Alkaline Pets (TBR)
8:46 Nomoslk (Kitty on Fire Records)
12:20 Stay Thirsty (Suck Puck Records)
16:15 Another Sack Murdered (Tarantism Records)
19:23 Forged Sentiments (Suck Puck Records)
23:17 Dead Giveaway (BGMW Records)
26:21 Peace and Karrats (Kitty on Fire Records)
30:30 Lesson Learned (Severed Digit Recordings)
35:00 Subliminal Bigotry - Hitori Tori Remix (Core Collective Records)
38:28 Perthed Again (No Disco Records)
Super Muy Bueno!!!!
really amazing and unique stuff !!!
The art of representing
Genial amigo :) keep creating!! Abrazos.
men wtf , this is amazing!
impressive
Absolutely brilliant!
fun times
awersome o_O"
fuckin killer stuff man keep it comin
renoise 4 eva!
hc klimacik mocna komplikacja funny =D
Yeullllllllllll
Holy macaroni
Holy shit
How?! Also, very nice, new to renoise, trying to figure out how to utilize it live, maybe if I mess around a bunch, I will figure it out? Haha
hey that´s a fantastic set ! - if you would compare renoise to the Dirtywave M8 tracker what would be your opinion ? thanks and cheers mate
po odsłuchu czuję się jak bios xD
Please document, share and show all the #renoise fans more about what's going on here :]
Friend! I couldn't agree more. In 2023 shall do my best to make this happen.
Can someone plz explain what's going on in here? Thx in advance!
@RAYALLDAY91 Many thanks!
Any tips on using renoise in a live application like this? It looks like you organize your music a specific way. I’ve been using renoise for the last 10 years or so but I feel like my songs are all over the place so I have no idea where to start to get this kind of workflow goin.
Hey friend. For me personally, I tend to create percussion patterns to start with. I will render patterns of drums I've created into instrument slots. I will do my best to add some variety to the sound timbres (process things differently) for each loop. Usually about 10 samples is nice to start with. Once I get nice rhythm rolling with the loops in this 'Song Instance', I will open a separate instance of Renoise in the background to work on some basslines. So I get the rhythm playing in the Song instance and then in the second instance of Renoise I will audition basslines by hitting the spacebar at just the right time. It's easier than people think - you really don't need to sync anything. Next, I render my 8 bars of bassline to WAV, and make another 8 bars..etc. I like to use the 'randomize notes' tool for inspiration sometimes on my existing bassline. Great tool. I just chose a particular key and scale - and make some additional tweaks as I go. Also, when rendering, I render 'each pattern to a separate file'. That way each exported bar of my bassline can be imported into an instrument slot in the song instance of Renoise. By getting my bassline in chunks it can easily be referenced, sequenced and mixed up using the sample offset command (OSxx) in the pattern editor. Perhaps I do this because I'm a control freak and like to be able to access the bits easily. Using one bar loops with OSxx works for me. Sometimes when I'm working on a new song, I'll become completely stumped for ideas. No problem, I just make some new drums at the right tempo (without even listening to my song). I used Korg Gadget LE App on my phone today to make beats and it was wonderful. I added them into the song and was pleasantly surprised at how well they fit. Recently I've been stressed out and I make fast music because it seems to calm me down. I think I read somewhere, if you want to get a project done quickly hand it off to someone who is already busy. They will surely complete it fast. Maybe if I wasn't so busy, I would be less inclined to produce. Stay busy!? lol I have no idea, friend.
@@hitoritori thank you so much for the reply!! I’m definitely going to explore the idea of writing different parts in different instances of renoise. Been looking into the more generative aspects of renoise too. Seems like I could do some interesting stuff with probabilities on sequences and phrases.
Sounds nice and I think that will be a great way to go:) I’m interested to hear what you’ll try. Red Hoot Oboe Monger’s generative use of phrases has been pretty inspiring so far. He has kindly shared a few of his generative song file examples on the Renoise forum. I’m sure you’ve likely checked those out already, ha.
Keep in touch friend!
@@hitoritori yes that’s what piqued my interest! I was trying to do more generative works in Renoise a few years ago with random lfos applied to different effects but found it pretty difficult to make anything sound good haha. I’m also exploring tidalcycles a bit too to see if I can incorporate that with renoise somehow in a live sense. Maybe like cutting a break via tidal while renoise plays a sequence of melodies. Haven’t gotten a chance to dig too deep into that yet, but I’ve seen ORCA working in tandem with renoise and it looks like a fun tool.
I remember I made a doofer tool that could chop drums using the stutter effect and that was pretty good for generative drums in renoise. The new probability command takes that to a whole new level!
do you manually map the scenes to the controller? i have a similar midi controller and wanna try something similar
By scenes, I assume you mean instances (copies of the Renoise application open). Yes, I map them manually and those mappings stay locked to the songs after saving. When mapping, I personally recommend using a different colour theme for each instance. By keeping your midi assignments consistent to the left or right side of the controller it will make things easier. It also helps with hand-eye coordination / ear-to-hand coordination.
@@hitoritori Thanks for the heads up! I'll try it with renoise 2.8 soon. I'm completely stunned by your work! Never seen anything like it before - at least not with Renoise, which is not very used for live performances.
what sorcery is this?
Do you have running 3 instances of Renoise at the same time? How do you do that???
Yesh friend. Just copy the application three times and you can open them all individually. Assigned MIDI mappings will stay locked to the songs.
@@hitoritori Wow, it worked :) . thnx. Renoise is a unbelievable piece of program
wiked
what do the buttons do?
Buttons!! Yes friend. Most of the grid is assigned to trigger 'play next pattern' in the green instance. The triggered patterns are very short and each contains 1/8 of a drum break. Each break is spread over 8 patterns using the offset pattern command. The top row of buttons on the controller will solo a particular track. There's even a MIDI track devoted to the Electribe Sampler with audio coming back via soundcard and line-in device (set to midi return mode) . All of this is happening in the green instance. Other buttons are assigned to trigger various effects in all three instances (red, blue, green) of Renoise.
@@hitoritori Ver interesting. Thank you for the response!!
What controller are you using to play? I'm looking for something similar that could control 16 channels - can this controller do that? If not, can you please recommend a controller that can? Many thanks. BTW, some crazy playing. With such fast hand movements, you should be able to pull some crazy moves on a joystick playing fighting games!
Thanks for the kind words. This does feel like a game to me sometimes. The controller is an OHM 64 from Livid Instruments. They don't manufacture these anymore, however you might be able to find a used one online somewhere. In terms of 16 channels, I've used this controller to control 8 stereo channels - with two channels mapped per fader. As you can see there are also potentiometers that can be assigned to your channels as well. It's really just a blank slate and you can assign your midi however you like. For a full 16 individual midi channels you could try an Allen & Heath ZED R-16 as your Control Surface.
is this fake?
No. Way.
Lol xoxo:)
@@hitoritori yo was wondering what renoise theme youre using? sick live set btw!
no seem him do it live and its all real
@@elliotjemify Cheers friend. I created those themes myself. It didn't take too much effort, so they're not particularly exciting, I guess.