I think they do some great stuff. I have most of the TMNT line and I bought the Van. Not hating on them, just this one wasn’t for me. Really enjoyed the video review though
I collect the Mirage nd movie lines. I enjoy it, but my biggest complaint is the inconsistency of their colouring in the Mirage line (i.e. going back and forth between IDW and 'classic' colours). I'm an old school Mirage fan, so the classic colours are preferred. But their stuff is great though.
I got home from work yesterday, 1/10/24 and a big NECA box was at my door. I didn’t get any email notice about it arriving. I forgot what it was. Opened it with my two year old daughter and we had a blast setting it up! Pleasant surprise. 😎👍🏼
I know I'm repeating something that's been said ad nauseam, but I absolutely didn't order this sewer lair living room because it was $100 overpriced. Even with Trevor saying for the longest (right up until this went up for pre-order) that it should be $250, that was still too much. Broke my heart with not being able to afford this thing, 'cause I've been pretty much an unintentional completist with the Turtle lines. Even if I had the money at the time, I absolutely couldn't justify it.
i couldnt pull the trigger because of the price point .. this looks undeniably great though....ended up making my own... its pretty much finished just need to attach the pipes....ima make a video about it....
What would've been perfect is offer a basic version of this large room (with no accessories) for $125, then eventually a smaller room for about $85. Then they could come out with accessory packs to choose your own adventure. So for this toon living room pack, about $70/75 sounds right. Keeping things very reasonable, more options, with a price/value that's comparable to the street scene. Like ppl would've bought multiples of these, to use one as a garage for the van, if they were $125 a piece.
Without the accessories this should've been like $80, and then, yea, people could afford to buy multiple, and it would get people to buy loads of accessory sets to furnish different rooms. Make the money on the little detailed stuff to flesh stuff out, not on the big simplistic box. If they had made it Billy Bookcase shelf-sized and modular, so you can move the doors around, you could EASILY fill an entire Billy Bookcase with these. As is, I get that they made it to go under the street diorama building, but I think they made a mistake there. Should've made it fit on shelves......
@@ieyke If this was $80, then the street scene would be less than that; and it's not, with currently being $115. With the street scene selling for $115, $125 is where an empty large sewer room should be. Overall, it's just a bit more plastic, hence the $10 more price tag.
@@ieyke 🤣..."Billy Bookcase." I've never heard that term. What's the depth of a regular bookcase, like 11 inches? It wouldn't be deep enough for these sewer lair rooms. I get where you're coming from; like it's all coming from a good place, it's just not feasible. It would've been a very bad idea if they didn't make it the same width as the street scene. With the modularity you're speaking of (which I *definitely* prefer over what NECA did), go with the Raman Toys M.U.S.K. It has plenty of modularity and versatility. I just love that you can actually reposition the pipes...and the break-apart wall, and the "sewer water" flowing, and the LED lights. Yeah, super excited to pre-order some of those.
@@ieyke Like someone else mentioned, it really is a dollhouse lol. I've been going to the dollhouse miniature section at Hobby Lobby for like a decade, so very familiar with adding decorum to your display. I've just yet to have a proper little dolly room to put some of that stuff in. I'll just be waiting on the Raman Toy one, 'cause I couldn't remotely justify the price NECA was charging for theirs.
@@Chalor. The Street scene is WAY more substantial than the sewer room. If the Street Scene is $125, with all of its walls, and modular windows and door panels, and roofs, and sidewalk, .....the big empty sewer room with just a couple pipes should be $80 at most.
I remembered there was a kid in my neighborhood who had 5 Sewer lairs; 1 for each of the Turtles, and 1 for Splinter. Plus he also got the Technodrome.
At this point, I’d expect a half diorama mostly made of cardboard, bare plastic, and stickers, with one side unpainted and all the essential accessories sold with other sets. I like the look of NECA’s products a lot, but they sure stink as a company recently with regards to QC, communication, and customer service.
Hey Dan, Merry Christmas!! Also sir I want to say thank you for a couple of things. The first being back in 2021, when on Easter of that year, that's when I first learned that origins was even a line as id picked up He-Man and Skeletor. So I wanted to learn more about the line, so I looked up TH-cam reviews, and yours came up. I was amazed at both your passion and how great your knowledge was. So after a few of your reviews, and a number of purchases, I was back collecting again. So my first thing I'm thanking you for is helping me. Get back into collecting. And of course your reviews, led to me watching your toy hunt videos, which leads me to the second and most important thank you. Over the summer I spent literally memorial day till labor day in the hospital as I had to have a liver transplant. So since I was out of commission, on the roy hunt end, I was vicariously living through yours, 80s toys roc, and not another retro channels toy hunt videos. And it was the three of you guys in particular, with the fun that you have, in your videos, that helped get me through my recovery, post transplant, so as I told burf, thank you for bringing joy and light into a very dark time for me, and again Dan, a very merry Christmas to you and your family
8:42 What I ended up getting years ago for my large items too big for bookcases are four of the Parsons desks from walmart. They're nice simple elegant decently sized rectangular black tables/desks, that even feature a well-hidden drawer at the top. Now I have no idea if they still sell these, or something comparable - 'cause man they were great at the time with being around $50 a piece. Another option would be the big black folding tables. Like either the heavy duty plastic kind that fold in the middle, or the ones that are thinner were just the legs fold.
Calling it a complete sewer “lair” seems pretty dishonest imo. Especially considering that it implies it’s the complete lair and not just the central room. It’s also way overpriced but that seems pretty standard nowadays unfortunately. I think around 200-230ish would be reasonable *if* the additional accessories were included from the other set.
@@jand8303At $10, you'd have SOME complaints. But with the Street Scene being $110 and the Animated Street Scene being $150, I do tend to think $200 (with a TV included) would fit what people were used to paying. The exclusion of the TV was such a huge turn off for me as it causes the couch to be pointed at an empty wall without one. I'd be fine with the TV with VCR and lenticular screens being exclusive to another set but this IMHO needed a "starter" TV and a lower price at around $200 to psychologically match prior offerings. Absolutely you'd have complaints but I think probably half the complaints came from people who'd set aside $200 roughly and were looking at nearly $400 with tax and shipping and an accessory pack for a mandatory TV.
That’s $300 worth of holes and foam my friend. I’m sorry but this is inexcusable for the price offered. This is actually worse than Hasbro’s attempted Engine of Greed
3M silicone bumpers are the best. They are small and translucent and make it nearly impossible to move your whatever you're using them on. We use them at work to stick under desktop holders.
This looks great and I would have liked to get it. But $300 was well out of my price range. Whether the price was a result of NECA overcharging, or inflation, or because NECA knew this wouldn't sell in high numbers and the factory charged more for lower production quantity - I don't know (and neither does anyone else). But regardless of the reason the result was the same. Nonetheless I might pick it up if they offer it again down the line.
When Raman Toys puts their M.U.S.K. up for pre-order, I'll definitely be getting me my sewer lair - in the toon and movie style colour schemes. For less than $200, you can get the basic 'living room' lair, and it'll be better quality than NECAs; featuring fully sculpted left and right outter sides, LED lights, an area where you can remove the bricks to have Mousers ot whatever burst through, the piping will be modular, etc. Yeah, I'll have to wait and see how Ace's toon accessory pack will look compared to NECAs; but regardless it will save me a lot of money, and it's not feeding the corporate greed machine. As much as I love NECA, they get a big _F You!_ with the drastically unjustifiable price they went with.
I can see that foam street topper buckling over time with the cartoon street scene & 30+ Figures on top. I mean there's no middle load bearing wall or post to prevent it from bending.
Very nice but I think companies will need to be headed more towards printed cardboard or foam board with plastic framing and accessories in the future because these prices are just getting out of hand even for us adults. Disposable income is becoming more and more restricted and there will be less and less adults collecting at these prices IMHO.
I have the vintage(my original from childhood) and imo this is better. Now the og had more play value for sure but this is cartoon accurate and what I always wanted but at this price point I’ll pass, not worth it. As an adult this appeals to me more than the one from my childhood but not a lot for your money here
Nah. The old one was a kid’s plaything and looks horrible. This new one is a masterpiece and this is only 1/3 of what were getting. You can put the street scene over it and the accessory set. This thing is a fan’s dream item and were getting more. I don’t care about the price and I sure as heck don’t care about the generic Chinese BOOTLEG coming out that Hatter keeps harping on.
As usual, great review Dan! :) I am not sure if we will see the other pieces as at $300 I can't see them selling bunch of these... It looks great but I honestly don't see a reason for this piece to be almost three times the price of their street diorama piece (BBTS PO $115). Sure, it has more display space and a lot of small details (which cost pennies to make) but it feels like $300 would be too expensive even for a crowd funded project. To make things worse, if you are DIY inclined you can make a sewer diorama (without the intricate details) for like $25-30 in materials, you need paint, insulation foam and some PVC piping.
Can't wait to get mine in. I've got a spot for it currently....but once they put up pre-orders for the additional rooms, I'll end up having to move it.
I have most of this NECA toon TMNT line and I love the way this sewer den looks I just don't think it's worth the price tag. If it would have been like 80$ or 90$ I would have snagged it up but 300$ is unfortunately way too much for a few walls and some furniture.
Use Museum Wax on the edges to hold that street in place. The museum I worked at used to use it on historical displays, I use it all the time for keeping figures standing, and holding some dioramas I've done together.
Weird you got yours selerate because they usually won't ship till all the items on your order arrive and the accessory set would have been included in your order when you ordered. So that's weird I'd maybe follow up w them because you should have got them together
I got one I'm still waiting on my set. I got my Van. I also got the accessory set so it was 400$ altogether with shipping. It's looks great. But my only concern is price with donny lab and the kitchen. NECA said Donnies Lab is gonna be bigger then the living room. So that means it's gonna cost more. I don't know if I'll be able to get that depending on the price. Thank God for Romen toys so we have options. But I love NECA and wanna support them. Will see only time will tell Merry Christmas
So cool! Thank you for the review! That set is completely awesome! Do you think Neca will show the Technodrome in the next San Diego Comic Con? Cowabuuuuuunga and Happy Holidays! 🐢🍕🎄🎅
Dan! To solve the problem with the other sets, like the building and the street, perhaps you should put velcro on the base at each end of each set, and that way they would hold in place without problems.
I think it's a beautiful playset!! So many playsets have been built in all these years, and all they had to do was copy the turtles' lair, just as we saw it in the drawings in the 80s, the only thing I think they should have included is a key accessory to the turtles and that is the television, it is an accessory that should be by default.
I like it. Out of cureosity have you ever seen the old Takara collectors case the folds out into the turtles lair? Its pretty legit as playsets go. There was also a channel 6 news building collectors case released
I love this and I like the idea of connecting rooms & the building connecting on top, exactly what I wanted as a kid(yes I have the og lair & I like this better) but at that price point I can’t. I never got the building display either cause I don’t have room but it’s awesome. And definitely need the accessories pack to complete the look
Hi Pixel Dan! Honestly! I never got a chance to get the Original TMNT Sewer. I thought the New NECA TMNT Sewer Lair Diorama Playset, looked Totally Excellent to me! ❤ the Video! May you and Family have a Wonderful Holiday! 🎄🎄🎄🎄👨👩👦
Hey Dan 👋 This set is pretty cool. I was thinking the same thing when you talked about the couch. I immediately thought about the Simpsons couch. Except the turtle's is pink. Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Looks good man but at that price... I have most of the Neca animated figures and the turtle van from Neca too but this playset went beyond what I wanted to spend on this collection...💡😀
The original Mirage street scenes where perfectly manageable in terms of space. They offered just enough for your imagination to run away... I don't think these dios were made for collectors like me. Kind of sad that now it's this or nothing.
Hi Pixel Dan, thank you very much for sharing this video/review with us, although it would be a playset or diorama that I would not buy, it is still interesting to see, stay heavy and blessings! 🤘😎
Great dioramas and playsets , even though TMNT is nit my thing I can admire the effort put in those dioramas and how figures look on them . Great video and presentation. Merry Christmas to you and your family and loved ones 🎉
That foam coat piece is sand down millimeters off of the plumbing so it sits flush. And then maybe you cut command strips into narrow pieces one for each side so it can stay on.
Bought this set and really happy I did. It is nicely painted and looks great with the street scene and turtles. I originally thought about the Ramen Toys diorama, but they only had renders up. I have been burned too many times by renders that don't match the final product. The extra price for me was worth knowing this would actually be quality. Space has become a big concern and I no longer have room for toys that are anything but great
Ok so my complaints about this,since it is a diorama for adult collectors mostly i do believe they could use magnetic places for the furnitures and those sticker wall decals as well! Since you giving 300 bucks for it i believe its the best they could do in this! Also since this has the logical price tag as a set,i don't dare to think the one that super 7 will release in a while! 😅 Awesome review as always man thanks for sharing with us and merry christmas and happy new year to all here!
This is definitely the centrepiece for any Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles collectiors like yourself Dan. As you said displaying is the real problem. Maybe this is what a collector wants to rejuvenate their collection which has become boring. Then this could lead to collectiors who are now coming to the and need that one thing to complete everything. That's my take on the whole thing. Great video and I like your honest opinion on this Dan. Got it in time for Christmas so an early gift to yourself, I now that one all too well. Merry Christmas to you, the family & everyone else.
I passed on this due to price and size, but admittedly seeing it all put together with the street scene on top and the Van alongside makes for an impressive display. Growing up I saw a few people with rooms dedicated to model train setups. Now I think that concept is being replaced with TMNT rooms!
When I say “price” I mean $300 is too much to begin with. To me it is not worth that much. I know things cost more money to produce these days but I think toy manufacturers have gotten greedy. I look for value for my dollar and this ain’t it at $300. Obviously just my opinion. If you’re ok with it then that’s fine for you.
So like most I skipped this set, just purely out of the price especially for International. But another issue was Neca saying the other two parts of the lair might not be produced.. it was all depending on how well the first pre orders went.. that would determine if they continue with the kitchen and Donnie's Lab. That little information pushed me away further from locking in my pre order. Along with the fact we would need another 1-2 top street scenes to sit above those other pieces to complete the full look. Then I started to think.. when will we see another release for the street scene.. Too many IF's pushed me away and with the price going to be roughly $600-650 CAD with shipping and exchange rates and the 100% customs fee we would get.. there was no way in hell it is worth it. Shame really since it's a piece I was really waiting for..
Thats the problem in Canada the money rate our Canadian tire money is worth nothing. I had order something from the USA a month ago 85$ I had to spit 125$ in Canadian Tire money. I can understand your situation my fellow Canuck
I've read three dozen comments and haven't see anyone raise concerns about the darkness in the sewer when foam core is place on top. Seems like lighting has to be installed
that is very impressive, sadly I've had to curtail my spending on Neca's tmnt offerings for Super7's and Loyal Subjects. but that set does take up some valuable retail space in any collection. heck I don't even know where I'm gonna put the Eternia set when that ships !
It's cool and all but yeah I did try to justify the cost and see how things are budgeted but it's just not worth the price point. Not sure why NECA set the price this way. Ultimately I passed on this. To be honest, hard to justify the purchase when it's not that essential to my collection.
As a toy collector myself, and almost finishing my collection of puppet master in tales of the crypt, keeper, toys, and looking into mighty max. It’s hard to justify the $300 price for an incomplete diorama.
So, I hesitated on this one because of the price, then last-minute decided to go for it, BUT I missed the preorder window by a few hours, so I didn't end up getting one. I still agree with pretty much everyone that this was priced way too high for what it is compared to NECA's usual pricing, BUT if this is the only way we'll get a good Sewer Lair living room playset for the animated figures, I'd be willing to pay their price ONCE. But I wouldn't spend $300 (plus tax and shipping) for further sets like this. They'd have to reduce the price for future sets for me to go in on those. But with that all said, Pixel Dan, do you think NECA will ever give us one more shot at this living room playset? I feel like if they do offer other sets, it would make sense to give people another shot at the first one to encourage buying future sets for those of us who originally passed on this, but now kind of regret that choice. One way or another, I will at least want this living room playset for my collection, whether or not other sets are offered at a reasonable price.
I think this gets the job done, but NECA priced me out on this one. I was hoping for 200 bucks, then NECA said it would be $250 at SDCC and I was disappointed, but still onboard. Then it ended up at 300 and I had to turn it down. No disrespect to NECA, it looks nice, I just don't need it that bad. My only regret is I had purchased the portal accessory with the idea of being all-in on their sewer diorama and now I don't really know what to do with that. I may try to just make one, and I'm keeping an eye on the third party one that's being developed. Great video, good look at this thing and what it can do, and definitely a fair and honest critique as well.
I'm positive that each time the sewer lair was featured at a convention, the rug was made of a thick rubbery plastic to match the couch & chair. Now it seems NECA have cheapened the rug by making it a mouse pad material.
11:59 That's _craaaazy_ if there's anyone out there that doesn't know what a mouse/mouse pad is lol. I mean mine isn't wireless, but I get that most ppl have the wireless laser kind; but even with them, you typically use an (ergonomic for your wrist) mouse pad. I just have to remember that most younger ppl don't have proper PCs.
I know Neca mentioned a second release of the street scene, to be sold at Target. Now the question is do we need more than one to go on top of future add-ons for the Lair. Perhaps they'll make some new toon streets in the future 🤔
Where did you get the two turtles from all four of the cartoon turtles from the older version the ones that you started putting in there first where did you buy them?
I paid $450 for a 3D printed one that I wasn’t happy with the finished product at all!!! I happily paid $300 for this one and it looks phenomenal and it’s way better than the one o already have. Looking back I should’ve held out for this one. I would’ve definitely bought two.
You also ask why are they so big now. I have a theory. I think NECA is trying to make things kinda to scale to us adults who were once kids buying these sets. How big a playmates toy was to a child may be the same idea with the size of the NECA toys to an adult. Just a thought
Do you like NECA?
I think they do some great stuff. I have most of the TMNT line and I bought the Van. Not hating on them, just this one wasn’t for me. Really enjoyed the video review though
Can't hate you for having opinions! Thanks for watching!
Too expensive and brittle
No they're even greedier than Hasbro and support nfts
I collect the Mirage nd movie lines. I enjoy it, but my biggest complaint is the inconsistency of their colouring in the Mirage line (i.e. going back and forth between IDW and 'classic' colours). I'm an old school Mirage fan, so the classic colours are preferred. But their stuff is great though.
I got home from work yesterday, 1/10/24 and a big NECA box was at my door. I didn’t get any email notice about it arriving. I forgot what it was. Opened it with my two year old daughter and we had a blast setting it up! Pleasant surprise. 😎👍🏼
You working with the pipes is pretty much exactly what I was doing when I switched out my bathroom sinks.
I know I'm repeating something that's been said ad nauseam, but I absolutely didn't order this sewer lair living room because it was $100 overpriced. Even with Trevor saying for the longest (right up until this went up for pre-order) that it should be $250, that was still too much.
Broke my heart with not being able to afford this thing, 'cause I've been pretty much an unintentional completist with the Turtle lines. Even if I had the money at the time, I absolutely couldn't justify it.
i couldnt pull the trigger because of the price point .. this looks undeniably great though....ended up making my own... its pretty much finished just need to attach the pipes....ima make a video about it....
What would've been perfect is offer a basic version of this large room (with no accessories) for $125, then eventually a smaller room for about $85. Then they could come out with accessory packs to choose your own adventure.
So for this toon living room pack, about $70/75 sounds right. Keeping things very reasonable, more options, with a price/value that's comparable to the street scene. Like ppl would've bought multiples of these, to use one as a garage for the van, if they were $125 a piece.
Without the accessories this should've been like $80, and then, yea, people could afford to buy multiple, and it would get people to buy loads of accessory sets to furnish different rooms.
Make the money on the little detailed stuff to flesh stuff out, not on the big simplistic box.
If they had made it Billy Bookcase shelf-sized and modular, so you can move the doors around, you could EASILY fill an entire Billy Bookcase with these.
As is, I get that they made it to go under the street diorama building, but I think they made a mistake there.
Should've made it fit on shelves......
@@ieyke
If this was $80, then the street scene would be less than that; and it's not, with currently being $115. With the street scene selling for $115, $125 is where an empty large sewer room should be. Overall, it's just a bit more plastic, hence the $10 more price tag.
@@ieyke
🤣..."Billy Bookcase." I've never heard that term. What's the depth of a regular bookcase, like 11 inches? It wouldn't be deep enough for these sewer lair rooms. I get where you're coming from; like it's all coming from a good place, it's just not feasible. It would've been a very bad idea if they didn't make it the same width as the street scene.
With the modularity you're speaking of (which I *definitely* prefer over what NECA did), go with the Raman Toys M.U.S.K. It has plenty of modularity and versatility. I just love that you can actually reposition the pipes...and the break-apart wall, and the "sewer water" flowing, and the LED lights. Yeah, super excited to pre-order some of those.
@@ieyke
Like someone else mentioned, it really is a dollhouse lol. I've been going to the dollhouse miniature section at Hobby Lobby for like a decade, so very familiar with adding decorum to your display. I've just yet to have a proper little dolly room to put some of that stuff in. I'll just be waiting on the Raman Toy one, 'cause I couldn't remotely justify the price NECA was charging for theirs.
@@Chalor. The Street scene is WAY more substantial than the sewer room.
If the Street Scene is $125, with all of its walls, and modular windows and door panels, and roofs, and sidewalk, .....the big empty sewer room with just a couple pipes should be $80 at most.
I remembered there was a kid in my neighborhood who had 5 Sewer lairs; 1 for each of the Turtles, and 1 for Splinter. Plus he also got the Technodrome.
He had 5 sewer lairs!?
@@Pixel-dan yup! 1 for each of the Turtles, and Splinter.
crazy!
@@Pixel-dan How do you make room for that Dan?! I do have the Neca Turtle Van!🤗👍🙏🐢
Now super7 needs to remake OUR turtle lair and MY technodrome. But that has me thinking, what would a NECA technodrome look like?
Crazy!
At this point, I’d expect a half diorama mostly made of cardboard, bare plastic, and stickers, with one side unpainted and all the essential accessories sold with other sets.
I like the look of NECA’s products a lot, but they sure stink as a company recently with regards to QC, communication, and customer service.
Hey Dan, Merry Christmas!! Also sir I want to say thank you for a couple of things. The first being back in 2021, when on Easter of that year, that's when I first learned that origins was even a line as id picked up He-Man and Skeletor. So I wanted to learn more about the line, so I looked up TH-cam reviews, and yours came up. I was amazed at both your passion and how great your knowledge was. So after a few of your reviews, and a number of purchases, I was back collecting again. So my first thing I'm thanking you for is helping me. Get back into collecting. And of course your reviews, led to me watching your toy hunt videos, which leads me to the second and most important thank you. Over the summer I spent literally memorial day till labor day in the hospital as I had to have a liver transplant. So since I was out of commission, on the roy hunt end, I was vicariously living through yours, 80s toys roc, and not another retro channels toy hunt videos. And it was the three of you guys in particular, with the fun that you have, in your videos, that helped get me through my recovery, post transplant, so as I told burf, thank you for bringing joy and light into a very dark time for me, and again Dan, a very merry Christmas to you and your family
It would be cool to have room for something like this; it looks great
I had the 2003 TMNT lair until recently; never had the original
8:42 What I ended up getting years ago for my large items too big for bookcases are four of the Parsons desks from walmart. They're nice simple elegant decently sized rectangular black tables/desks, that even feature a well-hidden drawer at the top. Now I have no idea if they still sell these, or something comparable - 'cause man they were great at the time with being around $50 a piece. Another option would be the big black folding tables. Like either the heavy duty plastic kind that fold in the middle, or the ones that are thinner were just the legs fold.
Oh wow!
A nice set for the holidays. Merry Christmas from Germany.
That is a beast of a box. Love the artwork.
Calling it a complete sewer “lair” seems pretty dishonest imo. Especially considering that it implies it’s the complete lair and not just the central room. It’s also way overpriced but that seems pretty standard nowadays unfortunately. I think around 200-230ish would be reasonable *if* the additional accessories were included from the other set.
I bet at 200 usd people would still be crying
@@jand8303At $10, you'd have SOME complaints.
But with the Street Scene being $110 and the Animated Street Scene being $150, I do tend to think $200 (with a TV included) would fit what people were used to paying.
The exclusion of the TV was such a huge turn off for me as it causes the couch to be pointed at an empty wall without one.
I'd be fine with the TV with VCR and lenticular screens being exclusive to another set but this IMHO needed a "starter" TV and a lower price at around $200 to psychologically match prior offerings.
Absolutely you'd have complaints but I think probably half the complaints came from people who'd set aside $200 roughly and were looking at nearly $400 with tax and shipping and an accessory pack for a mandatory TV.
Love this, thanks Dan! Happy holidays!!!
Ditto!
Oh cool, the plaster on the walls are stickers, the outer walls are just exposed plastic holes, and the street is just foam. Wow NECA
That’s $300 worth of holes and foam my friend. I’m sorry but this is inexcusable for the price offered. This is actually worse than Hasbro’s attempted Engine of Greed
At that price Im sure you can make your own lair for less than that price.
Funny Hasbro started it and now the other companies are doing the same
I love the box alone, Great set. Have a great Christmas Dan and everyone reading this. 🐢🎄🐢 🎅🏻
I passed on the Neca lair. I’ll order the Ramen Toy Super M.U.S.K. once it’s available.
I use rubber cupboard stoppers / bumpers for all my displays, it makes everything super sturdy and helps level out anything with a wobbles
3M silicone bumpers are the best.
They are small and translucent and make it nearly impossible to move your whatever you're using them on.
We use them at work to stick under desktop holders.
@@remc0s plus they easily removable if need be.. you gotta stop these things from sliding somehow
This looks great and I would have liked to get it. But $300 was well out of my price range. Whether the price was a result of NECA overcharging, or inflation, or because NECA knew this wouldn't sell in high numbers and the factory charged more for lower production quantity - I don't know (and neither does anyone else). But regardless of the reason the result was the same. Nonetheless I might pick it up if they offer it again down the line.
When Raman Toys puts their M.U.S.K. up for pre-order, I'll definitely be getting me my sewer lair - in the toon and movie style colour schemes. For less than $200, you can get the basic 'living room' lair, and it'll be better quality than NECAs; featuring fully sculpted left and right outter sides, LED lights, an area where you can remove the bricks to have Mousers ot whatever burst through, the piping will be modular, etc.
Yeah, I'll have to wait and see how Ace's toon accessory pack will look compared to NECAs; but regardless it will save me a lot of money, and it's not feeding the corporate greed machine. As much as I love NECA, they get a big _F You!_ with the drastically unjustifiable price they went with.
I can see that foam street topper buckling over time with the cartoon street scene & 30+ Figures on top. I mean there's no middle load bearing wall or post to prevent it from bending.
I wanted this but couldn't justify the price if it was 150$ maybe but 300$ is a bit much
Very nice but I think companies will need to be headed more towards printed cardboard or foam board with plastic framing and accessories in the future because these prices are just getting out of hand even for us adults. Disposable income is becoming more and more restricted and there will be less and less adults collecting at these prices IMHO.
This isn’t a sewer lair. It’s a room. No where near better than the originally
I have the vintage(my original from childhood) and imo this is better. Now the og had more play value for sure but this is cartoon accurate and what I always wanted but at this price point I’ll pass, not worth it. As an adult this appeals to me more than the one from my childhood but not a lot for your money here
I 100% disagree the old one sucks
Nah. The old one was a kid’s plaything and looks horrible. This new one is a masterpiece and this is only 1/3 of what were getting. You can put the street scene over it and the accessory set. This thing is a fan’s dream item and were getting more. I don’t care about the price and I sure as heck don’t care about the generic Chinese BOOTLEG coming out that Hatter keeps harping on.
@@FFFFPPPP exactly
Did you not even watch the video, he says at the start this is just one section, more parts are going to be released and able to be added on
Looks so good! I’m surprised the concrete pieces are stickers
As usual, great review Dan! :)
I am not sure if we will see the other pieces as at $300 I can't see them selling bunch of these... It looks great but I honestly don't see a reason for this piece to be almost three times the price of their street diorama piece (BBTS PO $115). Sure, it has more display space and a lot of small details (which cost pennies to make) but it feels like $300 would be too expensive even for a crowd funded project.
To make things worse, if you are DIY inclined you can make a sewer diorama (without the intricate details) for like $25-30 in materials, you need paint, insulation foam and some PVC piping.
Can't wait to get mine in. I've got a spot for it currently....but once they put up pre-orders for the additional rooms, I'll end up having to move it.
I was so distracted seeing that amazing 200X Rio-Blast in the background there. I loved that design for him.
Looks great, a bit on the expensive side. And yeah, nothing beats the OG sewer set. The green slime, all the nooks and crannies, just great.
I have most of this NECA toon TMNT line and I love the way this sewer den looks I just don't think it's worth the price tag. If it would have been like 80$ or 90$ I would have snagged it up but 300$ is unfortunately way too much for a few walls and some furniture.
Use Museum Wax on the edges to hold that street in place. The museum I worked at used to use it on historical displays, I use it all the time for keeping figures standing, and holding some dioramas I've done together.
Neca might still have the accessory set on their website. I just got my sewer lair just waiting on the accessory pack which is shipping soon.
Weird you got yours selerate because they usually won't ship till all the items on your order arrive and the accessory set would have been included in your order when you ordered. So that's weird I'd maybe follow up w them because you should have got them together
Nice review. But at $300 can't afford it. I make dioramas out of the neca boxes their 4 packs come in and they turn out pretty cool.
I got it and love it! Can't wait for the other rooms. It's going to be a huge display. That's why I now have a turtle room to showcase my collection.
D-Dan, calm down, mouse pads are still very much a thing, don't go shooting the age ray at us too prematurely lol
Thanks for the review..this is the first time I am looking at a production output. Looks nice...I am just poor for it. 😉
Even though I'm not a fan of NECA doing this wrong with the price on this, I still wanna mention I'm appreciative of your review.
I got one I'm still waiting on my set. I got my Van. I also got the accessory set so it was 400$ altogether with shipping. It's looks great. But my only concern is price with donny lab and the kitchen. NECA said Donnies Lab is gonna be bigger then the living room. So that means it's gonna cost more. I don't know if I'll be able to get that depending on the price. Thank God for Romen toys so we have options. But I love NECA and wanna support them. Will see only time will tell Merry Christmas
Foam core for this price is wild. Curious how well this sold..
Our boxes are numbered they sold about 3k of them
@@smitdizz420 that number isn’t surprising all things considered. Thanks 👍
So cool! Thank you for the review! That set is completely awesome! Do you think Neca will show the Technodrome in the next San Diego Comic Con? Cowabuuuuuunga and Happy Holidays! 🐢🍕🎄🎅
Now I just need them to sell the cartoon street scene again so I can place one on top of the lair.
Dan! To solve the problem with the other sets, like the building and the street, perhaps you should put velcro on the base at each end of each set, and that way they would hold in place without problems.
Nobody should have to add to or fix there stuff once it's in hand. NECA should just do a better job.
I think it's a beautiful playset!! So many playsets have been built in all these years, and all they had to do was copy the turtles' lair, just as we saw it in the drawings in the 80s, the only thing I think they should have included is a key accessory to the turtles and that is the television, it is an accessory that should be by default.
That's what I was thinking why is there no TV
@@matthewameel1741 I think it will be an excuse to include it in an extra pack for sale!
I like it. Out of cureosity have you ever seen the old Takara collectors case the folds out into the turtles lair? Its pretty legit as playsets go. There was also a channel 6 news building collectors case released
its awesome but my decision was 4 pack tmnt and the usagi 4 pack ,have a great Christmas to everybody
I love this and I like the idea of connecting rooms & the building connecting on top, exactly what I wanted as a kid(yes I have the og lair & I like this better) but at that price point I can’t. I never got the building display either cause I don’t have room but it’s awesome. And definitely need the accessories pack to complete the look
Hi Pixel Dan! Honestly! I never got a chance to get the Original TMNT Sewer. I thought the New NECA TMNT Sewer Lair Diorama Playset, looked Totally Excellent to me! ❤ the Video! May you and Family have a Wonderful Holiday! 🎄🎄🎄🎄👨👩👦
Hey Dan 👋 This set is pretty cool. I was thinking the same thing when you talked about the couch. I immediately thought about the Simpsons couch. Except the turtle's is pink. Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Awesome review! Is this a sample? Just anxious to get mine in hand.....especially after seeing this!
Where can I buy one? I can't find it anywhere
That thing is just so amazing
It should of included the tv. Especually for that ridiculous price.
Looks good man but at that price... I have most of the Neca animated figures and the turtle van from Neca too but this playset went beyond what I wanted to spend on this collection...💡😀
The original Mirage street scenes where perfectly manageable in terms of space. They offered just enough for your imagination to run away... I don't think these dios were made for collectors like me. Kind of sad that now it's this or nothing.
The only NECA figures I have are the Valerian and the city of a Thousand Planets figures!!!!
There’s no way in hell this is worth $300.
Unfortunately dude it is
Not worth it. That should’ve been 120+tax
I agree@@christianruiz3058
I'd have gone in for $200 if it included the TV at that price shipped.
That's an opinion. But objectively, it is worth it because it has sold for $300 and even more.
Hi Pixel Dan, thank you very much for sharing this video/review with us, although it would be a playset or diorama that I would not buy, it is still interesting to see, stay heavy and blessings! 🤘😎
Great dioramas and playsets , even though TMNT is nit my thing I can admire the effort put in those dioramas and how figures look on them . Great video and presentation. Merry Christmas to you and your family and loved ones 🎉
I can’t wait to get some turtles to actually display this
That foam coat piece is sand down millimeters off of the plumbing so it sits flush. And then maybe you cut command strips into narrow pieces one for each side so it can stay on.
Bought this set and really happy I did. It is nicely painted and looks great with the street scene and turtles. I originally thought about the Ramen Toys diorama, but they only had renders up. I have been burned too many times by renders that don't match the final product. The extra price for me was worth knowing this would actually be quality. Space has become a big concern and I no longer have room for toys that are anything but great
Ok so my complaints about this,since it is a diorama for adult collectors mostly i do believe they could use magnetic places for the furnitures and those sticker wall decals as well! Since you giving 300 bucks for it i believe its the best they could do in this! Also since this has the logical price tag as a set,i don't dare to think the one that super 7 will release in a while! 😅 Awesome review as always man thanks for sharing with us and merry christmas and happy new year to all here!
Just got Secret of the Ooze Shredder as a gift! Big NECA fan.
Where can I get one? I'm getting back into TMNT
The mouse pad. I feel you man 😂
This is definitely the centrepiece for any Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles collectiors like yourself Dan. As you said displaying is the real problem. Maybe this is what a collector wants to rejuvenate their collection which has become boring. Then this could lead to collectiors who are now coming to the and need that one thing to complete everything. That's my take on the whole thing. Great video and I like your honest opinion on this Dan. Got it in time for Christmas so an early gift to yourself, I now that one all too well.
Merry Christmas to you, the family & everyone else.
They literally had the accessory set on the website along side the sewer lair. there is no reason not to have both if you wanted both.
Looks great. Just wish mine would gethere.
I passed on this due to price and size, but admittedly seeing it all put together with the street scene on top and the Van alongside makes for an impressive display. Growing up I saw a few people with rooms dedicated to model train setups. Now I think that concept is being replaced with TMNT rooms!
I had to do the same. I wish I could’ve got one because the price on these are going to be crazy on the aftermarket now.
When I say “price” I mean $300 is too much to begin with. To me it is not worth that much. I know things cost more money to produce these days but I think toy manufacturers have gotten greedy. I look for value for my dollar and this ain’t it at $300. Obviously just my opinion. If you’re ok with it then that’s fine for you.
Wouldn't mind seeing Neca do a lair set for the movie turtles
It looks really cool and im glad you reviewed it. Im waiting for the Ramen toys version.
So like most I skipped this set, just purely out of the price especially for International. But another issue was Neca saying the other two parts of the lair might not be produced.. it was all depending on how well the first pre orders went.. that would determine if they continue with the kitchen and Donnie's Lab. That little information pushed me away further from locking in my pre order. Along with the fact we would need another 1-2 top street scenes to sit above those other pieces to complete the full look. Then I started to think.. when will we see another release for the street scene.. Too many IF's pushed me away and with the price going to be roughly $600-650 CAD with shipping and exchange rates and the 100% customs fee we would get.. there was no way in hell it is worth it. Shame really since it's a piece I was really waiting for..
Thats the problem in Canada the money rate our Canadian tire money is worth nothing.
I had order something from the USA a month ago 85$ I had to spit 125$ in Canadian Tire money.
I can understand your situation my fellow Canuck
Wonderful review Dan ! Are you going to review the Turtles van too ??
I already did!
Damn ! Not sure how I missed 😂😂😂😂
@@Pixel-danAlso, where's your MONDO MOTU reviews ? Can't wait for those too.
I legit feel like I could make this myself. There's nothing complex going on here it's such a basic playset 😂
A lot of people have
My mom graduated from high school the same year the Beatles got popular. Knowing what a mouse pad is does not make you old.
Are the gray stickers like remnants of concrete plastered over the bricks or something?
Also when are they or are they gonna come back out witht the street scene?
I've read three dozen comments and haven't see anyone raise concerns about the darkness in the sewer when foam core is place on top. Seems like lighting has to be installed
that is very impressive, sadly I've had to curtail my spending on Neca's tmnt offerings for Super7's and Loyal Subjects. but that set does take up some valuable retail space in any collection. heck I don't even know where I'm gonna put the Eternia set when that ships !
Is the Foam Core top strong enough to support the weight of the van if I wanted to display it on top?
It's cool and all but yeah I did try to justify the cost and see how things are budgeted but it's just not worth the price point.
Not sure why NECA set the price this way.
Ultimately I passed on this. To be honest, hard to justify the purchase when it's not that essential to my collection.
As a toy collector myself, and almost finishing my collection of puppet master in tales of the crypt, keeper, toys, and looking into mighty max. It’s hard to justify the $300 price for an incomplete diorama.
So, I hesitated on this one because of the price, then last-minute decided to go for it, BUT I missed the preorder window by a few hours, so I didn't end up getting one. I still agree with pretty much everyone that this was priced way too high for what it is compared to NECA's usual pricing, BUT if this is the only way we'll get a good Sewer Lair living room playset for the animated figures, I'd be willing to pay their price ONCE. But I wouldn't spend $300 (plus tax and shipping) for further sets like this. They'd have to reduce the price for future sets for me to go in on those. But with that all said, Pixel Dan, do you think NECA will ever give us one more shot at this living room playset? I feel like if they do offer other sets, it would make sense to give people another shot at the first one to encourage buying future sets for those of us who originally passed on this, but now kind of regret that choice. One way or another, I will at least want this living room playset for my collection, whether or not other sets are offered at a reasonable price.
I think this gets the job done, but NECA priced me out on this one. I was hoping for 200 bucks, then NECA said it would be $250 at SDCC and I was disappointed, but still onboard. Then it ended up at 300 and I had to turn it down. No disrespect to NECA, it looks nice, I just don't need it that bad. My only regret is I had purchased the portal accessory with the idea of being all-in on their sewer diorama and now I don't really know what to do with that. I may try to just make one, and I'm keeping an eye on the third party one that's being developed. Great video, good look at this thing and what it can do, and definitely a fair and honest critique as well.
will you be reviewing the trick or treat studios toxie figure soon Dan, its just been released and shipped?
I'm positive that each time the sewer lair was featured at a convention, the rug was made of a thick rubbery plastic to match the couch & chair. Now it seems NECA have cheapened the rug by making it a mouse pad material.
11:59 That's _craaaazy_ if there's anyone out there that doesn't know what a mouse/mouse pad is lol. I mean mine isn't wireless, but I get that most ppl have the wireless laser kind; but even with them, you typically use an (ergonomic for your wrist) mouse pad. I just have to remember that most younger ppl don't have proper PCs.
I know Neca mentioned a second release of the street scene, to be sold at Target. Now the question is do we need more than one to go on top of future add-ons for the Lair. Perhaps they'll make some new toon streets in the future 🤔
Just rewatched the 2017 sdcc set review. And now to watch this. Its gotta go down as one of the best toy lines ever right ?
I’ve got one coming but I’m thinking now of trading it, that’s way bigger than I thought it would be. Looks great though.
Ha! It's huge!
I love it, cost a fortune to Australia. Still can't believe it was US$300. No way in the world it cost anywhere near this to make.
Where did you get the two turtles from all four of the cartoon turtles from the older version the ones that you started putting in there first where did you buy them?
It's awesome but I feel like I'd need to add another room to the house to fit this, which just adds to the cost!
Try Museum Wax to hold to the formcore in place. It won't leave marks and comes off clean.
Use that Tac pro stuff instead of Velcro to keep the top on the lair and also for the street diorama
I paid $450 for a 3D printed one that I wasn’t happy with the finished product at all!!! I happily paid $300 for this one and it looks phenomenal and it’s way better than the one o already have. Looking back I should’ve held out for this one. I would’ve definitely bought two.
You also ask why are they so big now. I have a theory. I think NECA is trying to make things kinda to scale to us adults who were once kids buying these sets. How big a playmates toy was to a child may be the same idea with the size of the NECA toys to an adult. Just a thought
Where’s the link to buy this??
Bloody cool Dan ..thanks for the share man is it worth $300..not so sure ...maybe more towards $250!