RG6 vs. RG11 - How Your Coaxial Cable Impacts TV Reception
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- In this video I compare RG6 and RG11 coaxial cable. RG11 coax is thicker than RG6 coax. In theory it should perform better with less signal loss - but is it overkill for most outdoor antenna setup?
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Looking to get RG11 COAX CABLE, im not sure from who to buy it, what do you recommend?
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Yeah! They killed off Analog TV! XD
Yeah! And allowed the Children's Television Act of 1990 to kill off Saturday mornings for broadcast networks! LMAO
In a house I had years ago, the best thing I ever did there was rip out the old RG59 cable and replace it with RG6. It was a huge effort but it made a BIG difference.
Tylar, I used to have a bid ugly dish in the 1990's. I changed you RG6 cable to RG11 mostly copper construction on both cables. The improved picture quality was night and day. The charts said the difference was only a few points. But on the screen with a Sony XBR monitor TV the picture was just so real. This brings back memories Tylar. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
just like an antenna, wire - general coax, rg6 or 11, cat 5 or, 6, flat 1 pair... any wire... the discussion is about distance... not about wire... which wire fits the distance you need a signal to move.. when you are comparing similar with for your distance needs, you mostly comparing gauge and connector quality.
at the end of the day, you can pass a signal over barb wire if it's short enough.
In extreme situations where the antenna is 10 ore more wavelengths from the receiver, I have used LMR-400-75 or LMR-600-75 cable for the majority of the cable run. The LMR-600-75 is pricey, however, and requires special connectors, but it can be buried directly into the ground while lasting for decades. I try to avoid amplifiers when possible because all amps will add noise and distortion and are vulnerable to overload from strong signal sources such as cellular phone towers.
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From my experience both RG6 and RG11 coaxial cable did a better job (40 meters or 131 feet in my case) I have 20 Db amplifiers and both cables are tri shielded. I also combined the FM, TV, Satellite TV signal on one cable using diplexers and had no problem, everything is perfect. The RG11 is mostly used by cable companies due to less attenuation in long run, but for most people I would recommend RG6 tri shield because is cheaper and easier to install.
You need Verizon Fios. That signal comes out of the ONT at 20db and often had to be knocked down with attenuators at each set
Verizon cost and isn't as good as it should be for fiber
I install here in Southern Ontario.
My rule of thumb. Is anywhere I can install RG11 I do. 50, 75 or 100 feet I will use it.
It's the better cable, I buy it by the 1000 foot rolls.
Why cheap out the install is only done once. I want maximum single transferred.
I will use RG6 in complicated runs mostly on antenna tripod roof mounts. Where I'm running along eavestroughs down walls, etc. As you know RG11 is to clumsy to run in tight corners.
If it's a tower install, RG11 for sure. Going down the tower to be grounded then right into the house.
As for RG59 have got rid of all mine and no long use it.
RG11 from the antenna to the amplifier splitter is a must. If you can continue RG11 from the amp/splitter to the wall plate, and RG6 from the plate to the TV. Every connector is 1db loss add that to the signal loss in RG6 and it becomes significant. Remember 3db loss is 1/2 the signal, and amplifiers do not create signal, once its lost its lost! Splitter/amps are a must when wiring a house 🏠 with coax drops in several rooms.
In the middle of doing my RG6 coaxial cables I obviously didn't have a clue originally because I done far too many 90-degree bends and I noticed the signal noise was awful so now I'm redone em with quad shield RG6 s and this time I'm keeping a large bend radius! 🤪
I am impressed with RG11 coax, especially from antenna to distribution into house.
Made a difference on my reception got 6 more channels when I added a R11 cable plus no in and out signal reception.
All Hail antenna man!!!!
I have RG-11 and a run of about 60 feet, with an Antennas Direct 91-XG. And I also lucky enough to score a Channlemaster 7775 UHF only amplifier before they were discontinued. My system works quite well, and is nice and stable, even in stormy weather.
RG11 is not necessary unless youre drop is over 150 ft.Ohms law distance versus rf loss
@@jaydoublebusy I know, but I wanted to preserve every tiny bit of signal I could. I figured overkill is better than not enough.
@@brockreynolds870 fair enough.The only thing its preserving at 60 ft is youre pride.If youre receiving unit(antenna)is inadequate or youre overall reception is garbage based on topography/distance from repeaters,maybe.
@@jaydoublebusy the rule of thumb is over a hundred feet. On the other hand a good preamp will negate any of that loss. Kitz Technologies KT-200 is a good choice for a very clean, low noise, medium powered Mast mounted preamp.
@@bobh.4580
Depends on cable type.Full copper loses less than CCS.Most CCS loss is around 3db on the low band 7.5-8 db high band per 100 ft.
My home was wired with RG59 in the walls when it was built back in 1997 (I was not the original owner). I have digital cable tv and have not had any issues with reception. I have wired all new runs with good quality RG6. Provided the RG59 is good quality and well shielded, you should be fine.
I was a cable guy for Cox Communications and I would not say just add an Amp before in wall wiring as I have been to homes with RG-59 in the home with only a few wires of outer braid and no shielding, so it was like an antenna for in air frequencies and put too much noise in the signal of the channels. I ran new RG-6!
8 ) good explanation I'm sure as always. Keep up the good work
What about when they go to that new over the air system? Will our old analog tvs be able to receive signal?
Thanks for your video information.
One thing I didn't hear you address was copper clad steel (CCS) vs. Solid copper core coax. It becomes very important when using a preamp as the center of the core carries power for the preamp. The outer edge of the core carries the signal. Unfortunately, a lot of companies won't tell you it's not solid copper. They will only have the "CCS" designation. And it's becoming increasingly harder to find RG11 with a solid copper core.
I think even the cable people run copper plated steel center conductor, I figured it was for strength running from the pole to the house!
@@wallychambe1587 I've seen some tests that show there's voltage loss with CCS on longer runs
@@bobh.4580 What do you mean? Sure you should expect voltage drop. If it goes below minimum specs of amp you can you stronger power supply. Cable companies use RG-11 CCS as a temporary measures, for example in case of hard cable cut, to provide RF and A/C to line amplifiers. The length of the cable can be more than 300ft and it works just fine.
I use Belden 1525A flooded RG11 for the main coming down from my antenna. Flooded cable has a _grease_ in it to prevent water ingress.
Coax cable deteriorates over time. A 20 year life is nominal. The materials matter. The outer jacket and inside dielectric materials in addition to the metals and size determine loss, longevity, and also flexibility.
Quad shield has a little more loss. The quad is good for keeping interference out and keeping the wanted signal in. The latter doesn't matter for most receiving applications. Signals are too low to interfere with anything.
I'm a fair distance from the stations and want to also get reliable reception on low power stations. It's split to 4 TVs, so low loss is important.
Coax has significant loss at UHF.
Minimizing loss is valuable in less than ideal reception conditions.
RG6 can have loss of about 5dB for 100 at 500 MHz (near the bottom of the UHF TV band). If you had 100 feet for example, a 9dB gain antenna will result in 4dB on that gain remaining at the end. Loss increases with frequency.
Outdoor connectors should be completely weatherproof.
Yes, I use RG-11 for my OTA and Satellite. It is absolutely helpful in the higher UHF and Satellite L-Band.
All Great points.
Though i never had Coax properly last more then 12 years ..even with the Better connectors and greese
@@MrBOB39 indeed ... Depending on how much loss you can accept a given cable might be good for only 10 years. It all depends. With water ingress it might be junk in a year. Sunlight drying out the jacket, PVC type 1 leaching into the inner areas, a number of things can go wrong.
I got from my antenna to my detached garage with ~120ft (40 underground) of rg6 quad shield to a 2 way splitter that’s regular rg6 to each tv, probably another 25 ft each. I have no signal difference on the box with the built in signal meter. It preserves the farthest, weakest channels fine.
Which would be best please for Comcast direct run from basement splitter to Comcast router about 75-80 feet away going to wallplate that currently has old rs59 and Comcast advised the line needs replaced. Any and all advice is helpful. Essentially - should I use tri or quad RG6 and does it matter that much, trying o future proof as I must replace the line anyway.
My question to you is: when making a connection, when using a splitter or a barrel connector, do you recommend coating it with a anti corrosion product?
Do you have a video describing how to make a good outdoor TV antenna? 🤔
Thanks for all your helpful videos! A note in regards to your recommendation of "PHAT Satellite - Direct Burial Flooded RG11 Coaxial Cable with Weather Boot F-Connectors, 14AWG 75 Ohm, Enhanced Tri-Shield 77% Braid, Assembled in USA (100 feet, Orange)" ....the center conductor is not solid copper. The description on Amazon only says "14AWG Solid Core Conductor" ...no mention of what material is "solid." Talking to Phat International on their help line, they say a solid copper center conductor is essential and that if any description on Amazon for any brand of coaxial cable doesn't specifically say solid copper, it isn't. The center conductor some how broke on my coax after carefully connecting it to my TV several times. I first noticed the issue when I saw the center conductor had only a little under 1/8" visible! Grabbing it with needle nose pliers it pulled out to proper length a little too easily. I'm sending it back per Phat's recommendation and getting their solid copper RG6 that you also recommended. I have yet to find an RG11 that does have a solid copper center conductor. For me, pricing was close to the same so why not get the RG11 even capable of underground burial! Now I know why not!
DIY indoor 8 ga. copper bowtie antenna feeding 15 ft. RG6 via 300/75 ohm matching transformer. 20 miles LOS. Works great.
thank you, brother
Tyler could you address the difference between using solid core copper and copper clad steel RG-6 cable? My understanding is if you are using a mast mounted amplifier then solid core is better because you will be running electricity up the cable to it Most readily available RG-6 is copper clad steel. Thanks!
It depends on how long the run is, if you’re talking about greater than 100’ then you’ll probably want to use copper core over copper clad. This is because the copper core cable has about 1/4 the DC loop resistance as copper clad.
For us at Comcast, copper clad is sufficient for any signal. If the distance from our delivery point is further than 150 ft we use rg11. Solid copper core seems to work for satellite but for cable the delivery is a great picture and internet.
@@joshuanixon5463 So, with all that damn money that Comcast is making, they're deciding to be cheap, and cut corners huh? I'm glad I cancelled my cable then, although I still need them for my internet.
Yes, I've asked that question also. I've seen some real-world testing we're copper-clad steel not as effective as solid copper core on RG6 and RG11 .
Keep in mind the application that these cables are being used in. In an antenna/satellite system, copper core cable would be more advantageous due to powering limitations of the signaling equipment used. In HFC networks that are used by cable operators, copper clad cable suffices due to power being supplied from the cable plant.
Hey when building an RG6 cable. The center where dielectric is being flushed with. Can the hole be a bit bigger? Because every F compression connector come in with slightly bigger hole. I’m talking about millimeters. I’m currently using Belden PPC EXplus
Would you recommend the channel master CM-5020 ? It body of a 100 mile range.
tyler, have you ever tested the channel master extreme 80 8 bay tv antenna?
i've been using commercial two way radio antennas that were mag mounts end it does the trick very well I was able to pull in 60+ stations doing it with that way
They can sure..
All depends on frequency ability of those antennas
( though the mag mounts offer often great grounding and thus better performance of the antenna )
And the frequencys used on the towers youre getting the signals from
Something else to keep in mind is use good quality connectors. Coaxial cable attenuation increases with frequency. The FCC repack removed the higher frequency TV channels that were most affected by cable losses.
While I don't have anything against quad shielded RG6 I think for most locations it is overkill.
Thank you for your channel
Awesome info, thanks
I am lucky to be on a hill, which provides me with a good signal. All of the main locals are on the same mountain and although they are three or four miles apart, from my home I can split the difference by aiming the antenna (In Attic) between them. 60 feet of RG6 feeds a low gain amplifier/splitter with eight outputs. I know that many people are in less than ideal reception areas. Tyler is a big help with his advice. I will add that RG 6 is good for most TV/FM systems within a house, RG 6 Quad is really aimed at wide band cable tv and probably will not add much to the broadcast tv signal. It is really intended to keep the cable signal in and outside signals out, as cable uses frequencies that are use for other types of broadcasting.
Well, I like to see something on 300 outdoor matching transformers. The ones I've seen on Amazon are trash and the one from Channel Master is $20. Surely there are more options that are not going to suck in water or break the bank?
Question is RG 6 the same as the quad coax cable i picked up a watch onn quad shield coax cable For my outdoor antenna
My router and TV has RG6 slot/port
Will I get better reception if I use RG11 cable and will put RG 11 to RG6 adapter on both ends of the cable to be compatible to my router and TV? If you can make a video we can watch to see the result, that would be better.
I will get mine at the Goodwill next spring when people give them to Goodwill cause they are too lazy to recharge them.
I have the cheap motorized antenna you said DO NOT BUY and it has a nice preamp that drives the thin white no-name coax. It works great and cost me only $25. The local shop wanted $300 to put in an antenna that was "HD ready." HA!
I'm glad it's working for you. Just keep an eye on it. If you lose all reception one day the preamp has failed.
I live in a apartment studio and have antenna at south window and had 40 foot cable come with antenna and have it hooked into an air tv device wondering how long a cable do I really need .?
Hey Tyler, can you maybe tell me why I have 2 TVs on the same channel master 60 antenna and one is receiving 25 plus channels and the other 1 will only receive 4? They are both Vizios, there is less than 30' of RG6 and I have one splitter between the antenna and the low receiving TV...
Maybe one is a better receiver.I have a RCA that doesn't get as many channels as the other TV
Love this guy.
I had no idea how important this was until I saw this video.. I changed the RG6 from my Bolton Long Ranger hi-gain cellular antenna to booster (had from older installation ) to LMR400 and then went to LMR600 after I saw the improvement from the LMR400. I thought 75 feet would have no or little impact on the RG6..... SO SO WRONG! Thanks
I am now rebuilding a higher mast for this antenna now I will now be connecting to a CEL FI X 100db booster in the next few days..
The run remains less than 75 feet and LMR600 is still my coax of choice. I went from barely completing calls in my rural area to completing VIDEO calls from a Verizon tower 3.1 miles away at least 75% of those video calls. With regular calls , 100% of all calls received or generated are completed. The cable was all of that improvement.
Feedline coax is a so So over looked
Yet so So Important
I look at All of this..the same as my Ham gear
Which is why I use coax typically good for VHF on HF frequency's ( 65 ft of Andrew's Healix LDF5-50A )
And use
on VHF and UHF what most would consider using on Ghz Frequency's ( though i also use it for my 1.2 ghz radio )
65 ft of Andrew's Healix LDF7-50A
Then..combining Excellent antennas.. then Excellent radios..Enables me to do FAR far better then most
Then...
Scaling this with my 43 years of selling/installing TV and radio equipment/antennas to getting good FTA TV reception
LMR400/600 is 50ohm coax, RG11 is 75ohm, hard to tell how much the mismatch is costing you. But if its working, leave it!
@@KA4UPW I forget
But it may be Obtainable in 75 Ohm coax
But going rg 6 to rg11 is substantial indeed after RG 11 is rg14 ( I forget..lol )
Happy Holliday's to All
Hey! Tyler, I have done probably 2 dozen antenna's for friends and family. that's how I found and subscribed when you fist got on TH-cam. I have found that every install I have done has had reception degradation and channel loss, some as soon as 2 or 3 months after install. I live in Phx AZ, hot and dry. I experimented with di-electric grease on the exterior connections and that didn't help, maybe even hurt. any ideas? I used all rg6, ground wires, and usually cellphone filters and channel master antenna's.
Good question. I have read others with the same problem. I have no knowledge. I am schooling up for my own OTA install.
Since Tyler didn't get to this question does anyone know any possible issues to cause degradation of signal?
Since there are no moving parts I could only think of corrosion at connectors and you tried di grease. Maybe silicon? (For outside connections)
Seems like most people lose some quality and then try another antenna.
@@tristanwwsd yes, I have done lots of testing with di grease, and funny enough, it has either made no diffrance or even possibly negative effect. I have tried changing out connectors with no posative results, not to mention, I live in Phx Az where corrosion is slow
RG 11 made a big difference on my antenna, I have it running over 600 feet up the hill, I gained several more channels and better reception than I did with RG 6 cable. I use the Channel Master preamplifier
My Channel Master antenna came with a 12ft coaxial cable, but I doubt it's quad shielded. I wonder should I replace it with a cable that is, or let it be?
it couldn't hurt, Best to use a signal cable run between the antenna & pre-amp as every connector in the cable run increases signal losses.
What RG6 double shield do you recommend? I can't find it.
I haven't tried RG11, but I have noticed a difference in signal between RG6 and RG59 for short runs.
I try to only use RG-59 for very short cables, like a 3ft cable from a wall outlet to a TV. Anything in the walls should be at least RG-6. Quad shield not essential in my opinion.
I watch you so I know what to get when I go to college for TV
I got the TV but no antenna yet
Is it a Smart tv ( so its already been to college..lol )
But if you have a smart tv
At college you will have good wifi
Well i no longer use antennas.
But various free and great even legal tv apps
No more dealing with coax or tv antennas
Though i use an Excellent android box that also gets excellent wifi reception ( the NVidia Shield Pro )
I dont get too many channels though
Only around 6000+ ( lol )
@@MrBOB39 no
A free TV a yard sale
A 2011 television with a digital tuner
antennaman: where are you based in pa? are you outside of philly? reason i ask is you show a lot of philly stations in your videos.
Philly is a nasty city. I live about 45 miles north of it.
Does height of antenna effect signal strength? And does having antenna inside your attic weaken the signal?
What do you think?
what is best for using on RV
I already knew for years that RG-59 was pretty much useless nowadays; everything I use now is RG-6, both cable & OTA. I pretty much guessed that RG-11 is overkill except in long OTA runs where you're likely to need a preamp anyway. (Suspect I'll need one unless I just move my antenna outdoors; haven't seriously gone thru the report you ran for me yet.)
RG 58 & 59 are pretty much useless. Stick with quad shielded RG6
I like using RG 6 quad shield
Thanks Tyler for your content
Good video.
There are still 4 analogue tv stations in South Africa. They were supposed to shut them down in July 2021 but they have not.
This may be a rather odd question but, if you were to have a setup where the antenna was very far away (more than 100 feet) away from the television or televisions you wish to connect it to what would be one's best course of action on how to make that work assuming there's a preamp installed as well?
Now that you mentioned a preamp again... this reminded me of a question I have had... I bought a pretty nice, used antenna and I just ran coax in the window to one TV for testing purposes... it also came with a preamp that works great... but when I get this antenna up on the house in its permanent spot, I want to hook into the existing cable tv box with the splitter so the whole house (4 TVs) can enjoy the antenna... I believe I need a distribution booster there... so with all that said... do I need to run a preamp up at the antenna and a distribution booster at the box? ... and does the one power inserter power both?
You probably do not need both. A powered splitter or distribution amp should be fine on its own.
Amps should always be installed in a mid way point or closer.You dont want to amplify garbage at the end of the run.Defeats the purpose.
Depends/maybe.
Does from antenna to distrubution box over 50/60 ft
If yes...then pre-amp at or very close to your antenna can be helpful ( especially if towers are hard to reach ).
If though you get strong signal then likely Not needed
@@jaydoublebusy I've always read that the preamp needs to be up on the pole kinda close to the antenna... which is where mine is.
@@MrBOB39 I have traditionally had trouble getting a good signal down here but with this antenna and preamp I pull in 32 channels... I hope I get that many when I hook the antenna to the existing coax throughout the house. I dont have a distribution booster...
It would be interesting to see a video of comparison Cat# Ethernet vs RG # Coax cable's !!! is Coax dying, will it be always a standard, futureproof ETC!!!
Surprisingly I got 65 channels with a not popular antenna I bought a year or 2 back. Only reason I tried it because it has vhf on it WFAA Is one of them. And uhf for the others. The antenna did have a amplifier which had short range/long range. I did short range first and it got me 65 channels and long range 62. So actually short range was better. I live in the dfw metroplex.
Most people don't need quad shield RG6 coax unless your environment dictates you need it. What matters to me about RG6 coax is the quality of the connectors and it's design for the environment that I'm using it in.
Do an RG6 solid copper coax versus a copper coated steel RG6 coax. I had a Channel Master CM-7778 preamp and power inserter burn out in 6 Months because I was using RG6 Quad Shield copper coated steel or CCS coax. I’ve read that copper is better than steel when dealing with electricity as there’s a certain voltage going through the coax besides TV signals and electricity tends to travel through the core of the cable because of it’s lower frequency hence no ‘skin effect’ when dealing with voltage as opposed to TV signals.
very educative, 👊👊
I need help my coax cable (RG6) is kinda weird My DTV Box has an ANT Out so i connect the Coax to the ANT OUT then to my TV Ant In now it wont get a lot of channels using ant out but it gets a lot with the DTV box
I have a question how many channels can you get with an antenna you have a TCL Roku TV
Depends on the antenna and the location. I've got anywhere from 11 to 60 channels
Ok; So given most installs are meant to last, be used 10 or more years (25+?) my attitude is to buy the best practical for the install. What is best for OTA in marginal/weak area? RH6, RG11 or RG58?
That said, what is the best, period?
RG58 is good for CATV i.e relatively low frequencies and powering equipment due to its characteristics. For any nowadays use; OTA / satellite / cable TV only RG-6 and RG-11 are recommended. Tri or quad shield.
Any reason as to why it seems all of the newer and higher quality cables are black? I noticed that when searching on Amazon that the cable that are either RG-11, gold plated, or have an easy screw-on are virtually all black.
I'd love to find a white one because that way it will blend in with the white paint on my wall.
Any suggestions?
They're black because black is UV resistant. DO NOT use a white coax cable outside. It's not UV resistant and will fail over time after sun exposure
@@AntennaMan interesting, thanks!
My antenna have been working fine for about two years. Now my picture looks just like it did in this video. What do you recommend I do? My picture goes in and out now.
Sounds like you need a better antenna setup. Consider an antenna recommendation from me at the link below. This can prevent you from spending hundreds of dollars and time wasted on setting up the wrong antenna for your area. antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
@@AntennaMan okay but there's not many that work in my area and the one I have was working great.
How about the way satellite signals just leaks out of the coax even quad shielded RG6 and wipes out the 147-148MHz radio band! Got a solution for that RFI?
I would think RG11 is better for underground installations. The cable companies use it here in Florida., Especially for internet hookups. The modems need coaxial unless you run fiber..most people don't run antenna wire underground so RG 6 will work for most installations.
Cable under ground must be intended for that. Just because it's RG11 doesn't make it so. It's about the composition of the outer jacket and perhaps any protection against water ingress. Only cable rated for direct burial should be buried (or run through piping under ground as the pipe frequently collects water). Coax otherwise is not 100% watertight. There is RG6 for this application as well.
@@AC9BXEric yeah it's the same cable that has the steel wire for hanging across two poles. That's what I have right now. The woodpeckers did penetrate the coxal line. Not much protection. I seen RG 11 and it has a much better jacket than RG 6. I know about cat 6 for Underground and Outdoor data lines it has a good shield and a good jacket. I'm sure the cable company knows what can be run underground. The RG 11 is much better. If I had my choice I would want RG 11 over RG 6.
@@AC9BXEric PS if the conduit is put in right no water should penetrate the pipe. I would think conduit would be ok because it's ok for 120 and 240 Volts AC. I seen uf underground Romex cable get the insulation penetrated over the years it happened to my in-laws outdoor lighting. Conduit would be better which I ran in my yard. I may take a shop vac to the inside end of my line I never finished hooking it to the breaker box. If there is water in my conduit the shop vacuum should suck it into the canister. I seriously doubt I will find any water in the pipe. I will post if I find water in my lines. I know there is water in my cable conduit outside because the 90 degree bends don't have any conduit. I left them open when I got internet to make it easier for the cable installer. He didn't like my idea but I didn't want my yard dug up because I had the pipes already in the ground.
@@ronb6182 although a leak in conduit is certainly a concern it's condensation that can't be avoided and is inevitable. I'm sure it varies by climate. But it happens.
In above ground air dielectric lines, such as 1 5/8 inch & bigger heliax (common for suburban & rural broadcast radio), without keeping the line pressurized with dry air or nitrogen (a standard practice for such lines), they'll collect water.
For some installations a hole is drilled in conduit at the lowest point to let the water out. Sure, it goes in when the ground is saturated but that doesn't last.
I used compressed air fed through desiccant, to keep waveguide dry.
The main point is to use PE or PVC2 jacket coax rated for outdoors, outdoors. PVC1 jacket should only be used indoors. And direct burial coax for underground weather in pipe or dirt.
Is there a discount code for affiliated companys like Channel master or winegard?
No
From personal experience when working at Spectrum, RG11 Connectors need to be put on properly. Most service calls I went to with RG11 drops has bad connectors and the center conductor would fall into the end of the screw head and cause pixelation.
@Nathaniel Caudill I no longer work for Spectrum but I've taken my expertise as a field tech and applied it to antennas. I already studied broadcasting as a hobby and can read the output from the broadcast tower to determine coverage. I used to live in a top-50 market. Now I live in the mid-west and I've got nothing now...
I had no problem using PPC connectors and their recommended strippers and crimpers. Worth the investment.
@@timramich I was talking in general. I never had issues with them either. It was mostly techs just rushing to put them on.
@@weatherman289 Agreed
Clearly though... You understand the Advantages RG-11 Offers when set up Properly
I would agree with you on the rg11 connectors. I like the PPC Aqua seals. You definitely have to make sure the connectors are well onto the cable before you crimp!
Good video
/stops ripping out coax from inside my wall that isn't RG6
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If you have a copper braided RG59 or even worse RG58... then yeah! You should replace them asap because they have very poor frequency response and are pron for RF ingress.
You didn't mention anything about RG 59 COXIAL CABLE. Do they make it?
I mentioned it in another video below: th-cam.com/video/2xiDvxz35Ec/w-d-xo.html
Antenna Man, how about a good video on combining 2 antennas. I live almost smack dab in the middle of the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton market to the north and the Allentown market to the south/southeast. Put 2 similar antennas together facing 2 different directions and see what you get, if possible.
I already have a video on this topic. Check out my other videos.
That can be done sure..
That typically needs a more or slightly harder install.
Like if antennas are mounted at same place
You might want to run 2 short cables..to combine them to a single long run to tvs..
But.. off each antenna..use same length of short run.
Or running from different locations 2 long coaxs
But hopefully of same length and combined to single run before going to tv
Make sure the cable length between the two antenna cables are exactly the same length. Other wise any shared signals will be out of phase degrading your signal quality.
Tyler, what is the best attic antenna?
Watch the video below to find out! th-cam.com/video/QkroujtyJv0/w-d-xo.html
@@AntennaMan TY for replying.
TWIN LEAD (a balanced feed line!) is practically lossless and should be considered, especially for very long runs. 73 DE W8LV BILL
where can I hook my RG-6 to my Hi Def antenna?
For Real ?
What model antenna ?
Can I connect an outdoor antenna to an existing dish?
You can't just connect it to the dish. It is possible to connect it to the existing coax cable on the pole but it has to be done a very specific way or you will mess up your reception. I do offer setup guidance services on my website below:
www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
RG11 is used a lot between pedestal and apartment building by cable companies
Honestly, I don't care what kinda cord it is, as long as what antenna it's going to can pick up either WPHA or WACP.
How is WACP? Last I checked they were mostly infomercials.
@@AntennaMan Honestly, it's still infomercials.
My cable is less than 100 feet and I am still using RG6 Oh by seeing the names at the end of the video I tried to change it to Randall but I couldnt not sure where you go into settings to do it. so its Randall not Last So if your reading this comment of mine can you change it to Randall thank you
All right Mr. Tyler, I have a question that nobody can seem to answer. Now, I'm asking this question not being sarcastic or a smartass in any way, I really want to know the end result. My question is, "Will I get a better signal from my ota outdoor antenna if I were to use LMR 400 connected to it?" I know I know, that lmr 400 is used for wifi but is it possible to get better reception and results with it? I really do appreciate if or when you answer my question. Thank you so much in advance and hope to hear from you soon. Thanks
LMR-400 hey ?
Are you a cb and or ham operator.
The answer can be yes
Can be No..
Typically No given LMR-400 is 50 ohm coax
And RG-6 or RG-11 is 75 ohm coax
Your tv uses 75 ohm
Using 50 ohm really destroys ones SWR's and More.
That said..
LMR-400 ( i used to use coax beyong LMR-1200 ) can be Obtained in 75 ohm..
But Also...So too now you will likely need to install your own connectors ( both the quality of the connector and the installing of them makes a Huge difference in Succeeding or Wrecking your recieved Signals )
Plus though i find LMR-400 Easy to work with
( i even use Andrews Heliax LDF7-50A but for ham equipment..you would need in 75 ohm for tv )
Others you asked..
Simply are Clueless to the science and understanding of Coax Feedlines.
Though..as Crazy as i am in coax and antenna setups..
Even I...must admit that LMR 400 coax is a bit much for Most tv set ups..lol ( and i have some $3500 in coax i use )
LMR 400 is 50 ohm impedance, you would need a 75:50 ohm balun (actually an unun) at each end, so you would have to subtract any loss in the ununs from any reduction in signal loss attained by using the LMR-400. Without the ununs, signal loss would probably be worse than using RG-6 due to standing waves caused by the impedance mismatch. That said, it could be done if you could find a source for low-loss 75:50 ohm ununs. BTW, I am a retired RF engineer with 50+ years experience in such matters.
@@MrBOB39 Thank you for the clarification. I'm a cord cutter and just wanted to get the best signal. Thanks
@@richpayton7162 Thank you for taking your time to answer my question. I really do appreciate it.
@@evanj571 If your system is 75 Ohms, use 75 Ohm coax and lower conversion loss, (same applies to 50 Ohm systems, use 50 Ohm coax in this case.) Look at different coax types, compare shielding, and capacitance per foot. If you really want to get into things, look at velocity factor, and the dielectric used. Look at the companies sweep of the product, dips and peaks in the sweep can indicate impedance discontinuities over distance, which can lead to an overall decision regarding the quality of the product you're looking at.
i have no idea what a rg6 is but now I need one because of you
Then Try..
LDF7-75A.. lol
That will give you a heart attack
Coax as thick as your wrist
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Thicker is always better (That's What She Said). I upgraded to RG-11 from RG-6 and I noticed a pretty big difference.
Where's the best place to buy this at
From a Knowledgable store
Especially specialising in antenna installs
And or Ham radio equipment
Back in the 70's i always used twin lead wire for my UHF antennas because there was much less line loss for long runs. Yes coaxial is much better for preventing interference but 300 ohm twin lead is far superior otherwise. You have to use stand offs to run it against objects but it blows away coax and is much, much cheaper..........
Indeed..
Yet wind and rain can dull reception during poor weather
old school wins all the time in the city too much interference but out in the sticks better
Installed RG5 in my house in the 80's. Had a tena rotor on my roof and signal amplifier to get channels from up to 90 miles away. About 20 years ago swirched over to Comcast. Moron installer told me 3 times that I used the wrong cable. Told him for the 4th time that was the best cable available back then. He had trouble getting the fartest TV on line but after putting that on his first splitter it worked. Sorry that I did not install 3/4" conduit from basrment to second floor bedrooms to make it easy to replace cable. All exterior walls are filled solid with foam board celetex insulation.
Had to look up RG5, it is 50 ohm coax made for communication transmitters and direct burial. 50 Ohm coax is what we used for CB and amateur radio. All TV coax is supposed to be 75 Ohms, so using RG5 for TV or cable causes a mismatch and signal loss!
@@wallychambe1587 just going by memory. Will have to find my bifocals and read cable. Radio Shack sold me the best they had at that time. One thing for sure when I moved into my apartment back in 1973 I switched cable over to flat type. Can not remember if it was 75 or 300 ohm. Had less signal lost so I got a better picture with this cheaper cable. Had the antenna mounted 19' above roof. That along with tena rotor got some good channels from New York city at night. Thanks for replying and giving great information. I waz surprised thd apartment complex never said anything about me installing the biggest antenea on their roof. When I looked at apartment they told me that they supplied tv cable in bedroom & living room but our entire block never worked and they refused to pay for 2 good sets of rabbit ears.
@@garbo8962 The flat is 300 Ohm, it disadvantage is you have to suspend it away from metal or it has loss. I never trusted the people at radio shack (minimum wage). I grew up with electronics as a hobby and when I went to get something from them I already had the part number from the catalog! I knew more about electronics than the store manager!😁
When I used to do cable a customer had a rg59 drop from the pole 😂
Are big satellite dishes in the backyard obsolete now? Does C band /KU Band signals still exist and can you get signals on anything being broadcast open air?
Still is available, not sure what bands though. Tyler has a video about it.
Yes you can use both a C and Ku Band Dish. No, they are not obsolete. There are interesting channels and you can have both OTA and FTA satellite TV. For more information I recommend these two channels: Robbie Strike and Northcoaster Hobby they both explain very good what equipment you need for FTA satellite reception and how to install. Northcoaster Hobby gets into detail about satellite reception just like Tyler with OTA reception.
@@JT-lq4yd Northcoaster hobby and Robbie Strike are explaining very well all you need to know about Free Satellite TV in North America And there are two bands C Band (3.7 - 4.2 GHz) and Ku Band (11.7 - 12.7 GHz)
@@Nicholas_Chris Yes, Robbie has a channel(I have seen a few of his videos) and he showed the dishes he was using, also explained very well how to make it work. I believe it was about a year ago, or so it seems, when Tyler interviewed Robbie on FTA satellite TV.
I will say that if I was outside the range of OTA TV, FTA satellite TV would be my choice. I would still like to have it but the dish size needed makes it impossible for me.
@@Nicholas_Chris the fcc is in the process of changing the cband to 4.0 to 4.2 and selling the 3.7 to 4.0 frequencies to the cell companies for 5g.