I saw a theory that the Pokedex isn't a scientific document so much as it is a child's diary. Complete with the child-like hyperbole leading to some of the more ridiculous entries. It could explain why the Pokedex entries remain blank until you (the child protagonist) have caught the Pokemon, and could explain why there's a different Pokedex entry in each game & region as different protagonists of different ages and experience levels fill out their Pokedexes
I definitely get the vibe for Macargo that like some scientists/children/casual pokemon fans saw one in the wild and was like "damnn that's hot" "how hot?" "gotta be like 18,000 degrees man"
A fun video and a neat collab! Some notes from a nerd below. Wailord is the "float whale" Pokemon: aka, a living blimp. It does float above land, when you use it in the game. Maybe it uses float bladders like a fish in water like a ballast of sorts, but in this case it inflates like a helium balloon. Cosmoem is based on a black hole, so it's hard to say what's possible there, and Magcargo is sentient lava, which is a bit hard to nail down. Also, Baziken is a chicken. Blaze-Chicken. Evolves from Torchick... the chick Pokemon. Still had fun with the video, the confusion there just made me laugh a bit.
Yeah even though it’s a pointless, silly little fun maths video which my higher brain can always get behind, it is always base level frustrating to see someone accuse someone else of stupidity or at least of not thinking something through, when in fact what they are proving is that it was thought very completely through! And they themselves are the ones who haven’t done an adequate level of research to discover this fact.
@@AliceYobby Could not agree more. It's fun to see someone explain how the maths actually checks out in the real world, but god is it unnecessary to belittle and insult the people who designed them, when clearly they aren't trying to make realistic creatures that could possibly exist in the real world. Like, there's one person who didn't do enough research in this situation, and it sure as hell isn't Gamefreak, or whoever specifically came up with the Pokemon in question.
I like how the quest6ion you asked for magcargo was "How many mars bars does it eat", not "How far do you have to stay from this thing to avoid spontaneous combustion?"
Excellent video! Just a note though, Blaziken is a chicken, not a fox. You might've confused it with Fennekin or Braixen which are from another fire-type starter evolutionary line and are based on fennec foxes.
Some of the stats make perfect sense as calculated, as Waillord is meant to be a blimp and Cosmoem is meant to be a black hole. The 18,000°F for Maccargo seems to be flavour text, so makes less sense.
18,000 °F is presumably the result of converting 10,000 °C into degrees Fahrenheit, so they were just going for a round number that conveys "very hot", and it got less round after translation.
Sag A* actually has a pretty low density when compared to smaller black holes. The density of a black hole (if you define the volume to be everything inside the Schwarzschild Radius) is: (3 c^6) / (32 pi G^3 M^2) Cosmoem has the same density as a black hole with a mass of 1.36 million Solar masses. Any black hole with a lower mass than that has a higher density than Cosmoem.
I was thinking the same thing, black holes have some non-intuitive densities because of how it is measured. A better comparison might be a dwarf star, according to NASA, an earth-sized white dwarf has a density of 10^9 kg/m^3, so Cosmoem is somewhere between the sun's core and a white dwarf.
Yeah the "this is more dense than a black hole" really relies on the indefinite article, and indeed there are non-singularity astronomical objects that are significantly more dense than Cosmoem (specifically neutron stars have densities in the 10^17 kg/m^3 range)
Going even further, you could put all mass in the observable universe into a black hole with roughly the same diameter, meaning that basically everything that's not a pure vacuum is less dense than a black hole. Comparing density to a black hole is completely meaningless. Also, 999.9 kg isn't that much weight even when super compressed. It's not even close to neutron star levels yet, which has a density of 10^17 kg/m
Yeah you can tell the video is by a mathematician and not a physicist. No discussion of the density threshold at which something would collapse into a black hole, and mistakenly assumes that black holes are the same volume as the masses that give rise to them.
Actually, Wailord was kinda inspired by Zeppelin's so that kinda makes sense(?) Also Cosmoem is also inspired in a black hole so also kinda makes sense
Yeah, Wailord is specifically meant to float in the air as described, and Cosmoem is based on cosmic objects like neutron stars with similarly absurd densities. The numbers are still kind of implausible anyway (how does Wailord swim?), but at least they're meant to be extreme in the way described here. Magcargo has absolutely no excuse.
@PeachCrusher69 actually, Necrozma is also inspired in a black hole, amd that is why it absorbs other things into him. Cosmoem would be more like a neutron star than a black hole, but also kind of applies
@@FrenkieWest32 which is definitely always accurate and definitely reflects the intention of the person/people who created each pokémon? okay boss, but maybe next time you don’t leave rude, useless comments that only prove your inability to communicate like a reasonable person? thanks
@@crayfishfuture yeah so the nickname ''float pokemon'' proves the intention of the creators but the pokedex which is distinctly said to be canon is not? What is this logic? If anyone sounds aggressive and rude, it's you. Imagine getting emotional over pokemon...
My favourite is that Magikarp, the world's most pathetic pokemon, can - according to the Platinum dex - jump over mountains using its signature move Splash. The lowest elevation the UN recognises as a 'mountainous environment' is 300 meters, and to jump 300 meter up, it would have to have an initial speed of 76.71 m/s, which is 276.1 km/h or 171.6 mph (this is ignoring both that it would need to retain some horizontal velocity at the top to get to the other side of the mountain, and that it would lose speed to air resistance). A Magikarp is 22.0 lbs or 10.0 kg, so you would think getting hit by it at that speed would do any damage, whatsoever. What actually happens if you use Splash is that 'The user just flops and splashes around to no effect at all...'
In the anime, Magikarp evolving by itself pumped out like a kiloton of TNT equivalent. Like, that's its resting output. A 30 kilojoule Splash really is nothing of significance by Pokémon standards.
The exact entry is, "A Magikarp living for many years can leap a mountain using Splash. The move remains useless, though." You could read this as I suspect you have: that an experienced Magikarp could leap mountains in a single splash. But I read it differently: given enough time, a Magikarp could Splash its way up a mountain and down the other side, but it would take years.
@@OriginalPiMan There's an official mobile game all about Magikarp using Splash to jump ridiculous heights (personal highest is 289.95 m). It's all at once.
I can tell Tom's a real fan of Pokemon because he knows the "height" given of a long Pokemon is actually its length. (Look up the stats of any "snake" Pokemon)
On the flip side, I can see he's NOT a real fan and is just trying to game the TH-cam algorithm because the new game came out so he got a Pokemon shirt and tried to put out a video explaining the bad math in Pokemon but didn't explain any truly bad math because, Wailord IS A BLIMP of course it's lighter than air, Cosmoem is a Protostar so of course it's reaching critical mass before exploding into becoming a full fledged star, Blaziken is a CHICKEN not a fox... And the most important things, the Pokedex is filled in generally by the player character, on the spot, after catching the pokemon. If scientists were filling in the data then why on Arceus's green Torterra do you have to catch the bloody pokemon to unlock the entry. It's as sensible as you can only read Wikipedia articles if you personally visit a location or witness an event or obtain an item from an event. That's why we have stupid numbers like 18,000 degrees F on Magcargo. Which why didn't you use the Celsius value of 10,000 degrees instead? Used metric for everything else...
@@Kinkajou1015 considering the large pokeball tattoo on his forearm (the same one with the TH-cam play button tattoo, on the other side), I'd say he probably already owned that pokemon shirt. Edit: I'm sorry, there are two different pokeball tattoos on that forearm.
The density of the actual black hole part of saggitarius A* is 10^16 kg/m^2. You can easily check if cosmoem is a black hole by checking if its shwatrzchild radius is larger than it, which it is very much not at only 10^-22 cm.
Some googling and poking around in Wolfram|Alpha suggests that an ~1oz Mars bar would release something like 0.3 * 10^16 J were it to be converted directly into energy. I'm not at all up-to-date with the Pokemon lore, but I'd sooner expect a hotter-than-the-sun snail to be fusing any candy bars it consumes rather than digesting/combusting them...
Given the tempreature of Magcargo's body. I think it's safe to assume that thermonuclear fusion takes place. (Sure, for plasma ~10 000 K might not be enough, but Magcargo's solid, so naturally there are much more collisions that can result in fusion). And 1200 MW equates to mere ~13 ng/s according to E=mc^2. It means, that it can burn more than 100 years without any food.
Are you assuming that its entire mass can be perfectly converted to energy? Because it's most likely that it's fusing light elements like hydrogen and helium, so its mass defect will be a relatively low proportion of its total body mass.
The wailord one is interesting because a part of me remembers something being said about wailord actually being able to fly. Which… would make sense if it was lighter than air. Although, it’s not really flying as much as it’s just floating
It's important to remember that the (vast, vast) majority of the volume within a black holes event horizon is empty space. The singularity at the center is minuscule. The event horizon of a very modest black hole is 26 km in diameter. If you spread out all the mass in a singularity evenly across the event horizon, you'd have a city-sized sphere of material roughly as dense as the Pokemon. Sitting next to a city-sized mass of something is very different from sitting next to a Pokemon sized mass of that same thing.
@@MrCheeze Unless there were extreme forces holding it together, then it would instantly and explosively decompress. Every one of these dense Pokémon is a bomb waiting to go off.
That moment when I realize videos like these are to help get people intetested in math by associating it to familiar concepts, but i'm such a nerd i was interested in the math even without the pokemon association (which it just so happens i'm still also a fan of).
Accurate timestamps for the video: 0:00 Intro (Matt Parker from StandUpMaths cameo) 0:23 Tom starts talking 0:28 Wailord 5:04 Cosmoem 7:21 Magcargo 12:34 Summary and wrap up 12:45 Small note about Bewear 13:10 Small note about Rhyhorn 13:26 Small note about Blaziken 13:45 Conclusion
My biggest takeaway is that 1 mars bar per second is roughly equivalent to 1MW, so I can realistically be consuming 100kW for say 10 seconds if I were eating a mars bar over a 10 second period. The future of energy storage sure is wild...
6:50 you sure Tom? There are neutron stars that are waaay denser than that, and blackholes are denser than neutron stars, right? Where did you get those numbers? I couldn't find any match online
Also Magcargo having such high temperature would emit so much radiation it would be blindingly bright and it would basically evaporate everything around it like a nuclear bomb.
iirc, the worse offender in terms of math is lanturn. it can illuminate the surface of water from a depth of 3 miles, or 5 kilometers in the japanese version. I have no idea about the math of light dissipation through materials, but if the guy that calculated it did everything right it means that it produces 10^105 Watts. would be interesting for a potential part 2 of the video
While they probably just wanted a cool pokedex entry, and didn't care about the physics, I think the simplest explanation that doesn't break physics is that they shed bioluminescent materials that float up.
Your density for Wailord is only correct if it is solid throughout. Suppose it is hollow, like a hot air balloon. If it is an envelope 2mm thick its density would be about that of water or flesh.
That really depends on whether you mean density to exclude air pockets or not- I think it should really include them. We would still say a helium balloon floats because it is lighter than air, for example.
@@SimonBuchanNz But you're assuming it's full of vacuum. It's actually full of some combination of air and water, which it could potentially use to adjust its ballast. What matters for buoyancy is weight of fluid displaced (buoyant force) vs weight of the object. What the original comment is suggesting is that if it's a 2mm thick shell of flesh, the weight of the water it displaces when fully submerged (and filled with water) is equal to the weight of its flesh, thus being neutrally buoyant. If it's partially filled with air, then it will float partially above the water.
@@harrygenderson6847 You're assuming I'm assuming that, actually. Generally whatever's in a fish (or anything else) counts to it's weight. That's why we have wet and dry weights, afterall.
@@SimonBuchanNz It's problematic if whatever's inside counts to its weight in this case, since it could contain a maximum of 399L of water before the rest of its body is massless. Saying it's a 2mm thick shell full of vacuum would then be the most charitable assumption, since this would give reasonable body density. However, I'm also assuming that the mass given is absolute, and has buoyancy during measuring accounted for. Otherwise it could just be dry weight, in which case the true weight is higher by the weight of air it displaces, which is non-negligible.
I am more curious about the effects of Magcargo's heat radiation on his trainer, assuming the trainer is roughly .5m away while battling. I cannot imagine that would be good for the skin .... or the internal organs .... or living.
I love "terminal montage" (I believe that's the name of the channel) animation, it shows it literally creating an extreme heat wave melting almost everything in a huge radius, is a good representation of what would happen if the pokedex wasn't written by dumb 10 years old with a lot of creativity
For the snail-like pokémon, shouldn't the area be only the body without the shell? It would still be a ridiculous output, but slightly less so. As for the bear one, I suppose 3000N would be for an adult, but I assume the younger the trainer, the easier it'll get (if you have a toddler at home, please DON'T try it).
Tbf wailord is designed on purpose to look like a blimp, and Cosmoem basically is a living black hole, so honestly these numbers make a certain kind of sense
The cylinder is an overestimation of waylord's volume, so it's density is likely actually less than air. Still ridiculously low density, though. Also, Cosmoem is not denser than a black hole of the same size. Both a 10^4 and a 10^7 kg black hole would actually be microscopic. The Schwarzschild density of black holes gets lower the bigger the black hole is, and Sagittarius A* is over 4 million solar masses - far bigger than any star.
your approximation of Wailords size being a cylinder is pretty bold, not to mention, it's called the float whale pokemon and the dex says that it takes one breath and dives 10000 feet underwater, so maybe its weight was measured with the least possible air inside, possibly also how it can leap so far into the air. And Cosmoem eats stardust, I'm pretty sure it literally is supposed to be a black hole from another dimension.
Love the perspective put on things, however all of your estimates are biased towards the extreme side. For example, using the wailord as a cylinder, it's is a cylinder, but with chunks removed like rounding corners and a comparatively sizeable amount for the space between main body and tail. I think if you factored the cylinder down to .8x to account for the missing parts of the cylinder, it would still result in a crazy number, but at least would be more "realistic" for its proportions (if still not overestimated). Whereas if for cosmog, if you estimated it as a full sphere you would still come up with a very extremely (ungodly) dense pokemon, but could still say that you're erring on the conservative side, and cosmog is likely way more dense than that. To sum up, when comparing extremes, I feel that one should compare conservative estimates and then say it in all likelihood is more extreme as opposed to using estimates that appear more biased toward the extreme result.
This isn't about Gamefreak not doing the math, but rather Pokémon just being that ridiculous. In Pokémon Go you can see Golem moving faster than light. In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon you can see Mega Mewtwo X destroying a star as part of the plot, in Ultra Sun and Moon Ultra Necrozma, as part of the plot, absorbed all the light in the universe and emitted enough to make a planet over 13,000 light years away feel like high noon (said emitted light arrived in seconds, not millennia). Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina have all been shown to destroy and create universes in the games, anime, and manga. Arceus, while heavily depowered, shifting in its sleep was almost enough to destroy 2 universes in the Jewel of Life movie. Episode 1 Pikachu put out a Thunderbolt on par with the biggest non-nuclear bomb ever detonated, going by the crater. Magikarp was pumping out a kiloton of TNT equivalent just by evolving in the anime. Azelf made a black hole in the manga. These aren't off-hand Pokédex entries, but actual stuff we directly observe Pokémon doing. And frankly, the Pokédex entries are tame by comparison.
if i attach a baloon full of helium to a scale I should get a negative value for its weight instead of a positive one right? because a balloon full of helium is less dense than the atmosphere around me and would want to foat away rather than push down on my scale right?
Note: Supermassive blackholes are actually not that dense compared to neutron stars because the density of a black hole is inversely proportional to the square of its mass, when you combine the Schwarzschild radius formula with the volume of a sphere formula. But a blackhole with a radius of 5 cm should be much denser, with a mass of 5.637 times that of Earth's and a density of around 6.4*10^28 kg/m^3.
Honestly part of the charm of the pokemon series is the unbelievable absurdity of the pokedex, theres a chandelier that will eat your soul, a little lizard thing that will eat an entire mountain, a fish that can jump over a mountain, and whatever chestnaught is supposed to be it can flip a tank. These little mathematical "quirks" are just part of the absurdity, and honestly if larvitar consistently eat actual mountains I can totally see magcargo eating thousands of mars bars a second
I find it bothering that he never corrected for his rough estimation of Wailords volume. If you subtract the empty space that makes up the difference between the cylinder he illustrated and Wailords actual dimensions, The true volume would be between 10 and 20% less. This would make the Pokémon probably as dense as air, not lighter than that.
Another Pokémon that's crazy is Lanturn! Some of it's Pokédex entries state that it emits light bright enough to be visible on the water surface 5 kilometres (approx. 3 miles in the English localisation) below that surface. Now, water dampens light at an exponential rate and-- long story short; it would need to emit 10^105 Watts of energy, more than any nuclear test, ever! Also, Macargo's body is 10 000 degrees Celsius, canonically, the English localisation approximates that to 18 000 Fahrenheit. Which changes very little to your equation, but might still be nice to know!
I so wish it had not been ‘weight’ in kg, I know that in everyday use…. But when you’re trying to get over the distinction between weight and mass - and then do some density practice……
To be fair, Cosmoeon is a cosmic entity, so having density values more at home in the cosmic realm than the earthly realm is on theme. I'm not sure where that black hole density figure came from, but a quick google search came up with a neutron stare as having a density of 10^17 kg/cubic meter, which is much denser than Cosmoeon.
According to multiple pokedex entries, arcanine can run over 6200 miles in 24 hours, giving it an average hourly speed of around 258 mph. If we assume that is it's max speed, let's compare that to an F1 car (or the best figures I could find): F1 speed record (not on a track): 247mph F1 fastest average lap speed: 164mph If we assume arcanine has a similar handling/cornering to an F1 car, so a similar ratio of max to average speed, it'd be around 5 seconds quicker on the specific lap I was looking at (around 6% faster). Another fun comparison mostly for UK people: arcanine could do land's end to john o'groats AND BACK 2.5 times a day.
I always reconciled this with the fact that Prof. Oak sent 2 ten year olds who don't know anything about the scale of the real world to connect Pokemon and make a log of them. Also, Blaziken is a fire chicken! Ba-CAAAAAAW
I wish Tom could have overheard my 6-year-old engaged in a card trading discussion today when my son said "ACTUALLY, this Pokemon is as dense as a black hole. It doesn't say so on the card but it's mathematically true."
1267 Mars bars is doable in about 3½ years if you ate one every day, so maybe not such an impossible target if one is allowed to take one's time 🤣 I think you rather drastically over-estimated Wailord's volume-it's nowhere near cylindrical-but by enough to stop it floating away? 🤷♂ I wouldn't take much though, the figures are pretty close.
There are 3 universes of physics in Pokémon, the games (most realistic), the anime, and the pokedex (least realistic). If we take them as observations rather than inaccuracies, then there are a lot of scientific consequences. Like (taking anime&pokedex), it would seem likely that air on the Pokémon world is less dense than on Earth, leading to a lower gravity... which corrolates with Jessy and James being able to be blown high into the sky and still survive, as well as Blaziken being able to jump higher than a human on Earth. And How many calories are in a liter of lava? Likely the diet of Magcargo as it is the energy source where they live. It gets interesting when you around for the people in Pokémon being different from humans. A species that evolved around and eventually dominated creatures that can produce just all the volts of electricity. We see Ash in the anime constantly take thunderbolts, and we can either believe it is impossible or take it as an observation and conclude that their bodies have different structures than ours, in material composition of skin to electrically favorable pathways away from important organs~
So what if the whale was actually full of water in water but empties out when putting it in a Pokéball? That would explain how the density is different.
I knew Wailord was quite light for its size and that Cosmoem is quite heavy for its size, but I never realized their weights were quite THAT absurd. I don't recall the last time I even saw a Magcargo pokedex entry though so that one was a total surprise. What a ridiculous pokemon.
Another one is that magikarp can jump over mountains and in the show Ash’s magikarp jumped out into space and then landed a couple hours later (and survived)
It’s worth differentiating between weight and mass. We can usually ignore buoyancy from air when weighing animals to estimate their masses, but clearly Wailord’s density is so low that we cannot. However, the fact that we measured a weight means that it is not lighter than air.
Cosmoem looks like it's designed to resemble a black hole, and the density of a black hole decreases with Schwarzschild radius: Sagittarius A* may not be denser than Cosmoem, but Cosmoem-sized black hole (about 5cm radius, couple Earth masses) would have a density of 6.4248e28 kg/m³. On the other hand, TON 618 has a density of 0.0045 kg/m³, even lighter than Wailord!
Good old physicists and their perfectly spherical cows (or cylindrical wailords in this case) (And to be fair to Cosmoem - It's literally a star cocoon from another dimension and/or interdimensional space. The whale blimp is easily worse, but possibly deliberate)
black holes can actually have fairly low density at larger sizes. A galaxy mass black hole would have a density about that of water and a surface gravity close to Earth's.
I have a guess that Game Freak has at least taken physics into more consideration for certain Pokémon over others. Take Cosmoem for example. Cosmoem is supposed to be like its pupa state between Cosmog and Solgaleo or Lunala, and I think the whole evolutionary line is supposed to mimic the life cycle of a star. Cosmog is the Stellar Nebula, Cosmoem skips the massive star and red supergiant steps and becomes the moment before the star collapses into a supernova, and Solgaleo and Lunala are supposed to be that supernova. Apparently, supernovae leave behind dense cores. That could be the inspiration to Cosmoem's density. Either that or Game Freak was aiming to make Cosmoem a blackhole-like Pokémon. Either way, I think sometimes Game Freak's Pokédex physics are more intentional for some Pokémon more than others (like Wailord).
I did this same style math on Wailord before I think I used info from pokemon go and with the variable weights had one that was less dense than hydrogen.
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It seemed obvious when you first gave the numbers that the wailord was way too light, just from knowing roughly the size and weight of actual whales. But then the numbers came out almost 1:1 and I thought, ‘what? So actually it’s about neutrally buoyant in sea water? Perfect!’ Then I realised that was kg per square metre, not kilograms per litre. 😂 Cosmoem seemed about right though; with a name like that it may as well be denser than a black hole. For any Americans who don’t understand the Mars bar scale, here’s a fact I love from Wikipedia: the Milky Way bar's American version is made of caramel and covered with milk chocolate, similar to the Mars bar sold outside of the U.S. The global Milky Way is a different chocolate candy bar similar to the American 3 Musketeers. So the US Customary Unit equivalent to the Mars bar is the Milky Way bar.
Should have calculated the hue magcargo ahould glow at. I believe 10000K black body radiation is probably more of a blueish white than the "cool" red it actually shows
The pokedex is filled in by a bunch of ten year olds with zero help, so a lot of the big numbers are probably made up just because "it weighs a tonne" literally would make it 1,000kg, which is it's weight before converting to imperial and back.
I saw a theory that the Pokedex isn't a scientific document so much as it is a child's diary. Complete with the child-like hyperbole leading to some of the more ridiculous entries. It could explain why the Pokedex entries remain blank until you (the child protagonist) have caught the Pokemon, and could explain why there's a different Pokedex entry in each game & region as different protagonists of different ages and experience levels fill out their Pokedexes
Guess professor oak should have given the kids a tape measure and scales before sending them on a mission to catalogue all pokemon.
The professors playing the longest, most elaborate pranke evah
I had the same exact thought. What else do you expect when you're tasking a bunch of 10-year-olds to fill out the entries?
I definitely get the vibe for Macargo that like some scientists/children/casual pokemon fans saw one in the wild and was like "damnn that's hot"
"how hot?"
"gotta be like 18,000 degrees man"
Yes! I love that idea
Wailord being a blimp has been so ingrained in me that I wrongly remembered it as a water/flying type for years
Hearing physics approximations mentioned in connection with Pokemon made me realize...a Miltank using Rollout is an actual spherical cow.
Whitney's well on her way to getting that physics degree.
There are many shapes besides spheres that are round enough to roll
@@mikeCD62 It can be approximated to a sphere
A fun video and a neat collab! Some notes from a nerd below.
Wailord is the "float whale" Pokemon: aka, a living blimp. It does float above land, when you use it in the game. Maybe it uses float bladders like a fish in water like a ballast of sorts, but in this case it inflates like a helium balloon.
Cosmoem is based on a black hole, so it's hard to say what's possible there, and Magcargo is sentient lava, which is a bit hard to nail down. Also, Baziken is a chicken. Blaze-Chicken. Evolves from Torchick... the chick Pokemon. Still had fun with the video, the confusion there just made me laugh a bit.
Also, Cosmoem being a psychic-type may allow it to not instantly destroy the Earth every time it's called.
Yeah even though it’s a pointless, silly little fun maths video which my higher brain can always get behind, it is always base level frustrating to see someone accuse someone else of stupidity or at least of not thinking something through, when in fact what they are proving is that it was thought very completely through! And they themselves are the ones who haven’t done an adequate level of research to discover this fact.
@@AliceYobby Could not agree more. It's fun to see someone explain how the maths actually checks out in the real world, but god is it unnecessary to belittle and insult the people who designed them, when clearly they aren't trying to make realistic creatures that could possibly exist in the real world. Like, there's one person who didn't do enough research in this situation, and it sure as hell isn't Gamefreak, or whoever specifically came up with the Pokemon in question.
The density of air is only 1.2 kg/m3 at the Earth's surface, so at some point Wailord would stop floating at an altitude equal to its density
I’ve always bought into the headcannon that it is supposed to be less dense than ground-level air
I like how the quest6ion you asked for magcargo was "How many mars bars does it eat", not "How far do you have to stay from this thing to avoid spontaneous combustion?"
Excellent video! Just a note though, Blaziken is a chicken, not a fox. You might've confused it with Fennekin or Braixen which are from another fire-type starter evolutionary line and are based on fennec foxes.
Or Vulpix/Ninetales which are also fire foxes
@@SoWhiteItHurts True, though I mentioned the two I did because, in addition to what I said above, their names also sound similar to Blaziken
Fire chickens are way cooler than foxes.
Some of the stats make perfect sense as calculated, as Waillord is meant to be a blimp and Cosmoem is meant to be a black hole. The 18,000°F for Maccargo seems to be flavour text, so makes less sense.
18,000 °F is presumably the result of converting 10,000 °C into degrees Fahrenheit, so they were just going for a round number that conveys "very hot", and it got less round after translation.
Mom: What did you learn in Maths today?
Me: It's complicated...
Sag A* actually has a pretty low density when compared to smaller black holes.
The density of a black hole (if you define the volume to be everything inside the Schwarzschild Radius) is:
(3 c^6) / (32 pi G^3 M^2)
Cosmoem has the same density as a black hole with a mass of 1.36 million Solar masses.
Any black hole with a lower mass than that has a higher density than Cosmoem.
I was thinking the same thing, black holes have some non-intuitive densities because of how it is measured.
A better comparison might be a dwarf star, according to NASA, an earth-sized white dwarf has a density of 10^9 kg/m^3, so Cosmoem is somewhere between the sun's core and a white dwarf.
Yeah the "this is more dense than a black hole" really relies on the indefinite article, and indeed there are non-singularity astronomical objects that are significantly more dense than Cosmoem (specifically neutron stars have densities in the 10^17 kg/m^3 range)
The M87 black hole has a density of ~1kg/m^3, so being denser than a black hole also applies to Wailord.
Going even further, you could put all mass in the observable universe into a black hole with roughly the same diameter, meaning that basically everything that's not a pure vacuum is less dense than a black hole. Comparing density to a black hole is completely meaningless.
Also, 999.9 kg isn't that much weight even when super compressed. It's not even close to neutron star levels yet, which has a density of 10^17 kg/m
Yeah you can tell the video is by a mathematician and not a physicist. No discussion of the density threshold at which something would collapse into a black hole, and mistakenly assumes that black holes are the same volume as the masses that give rise to them.
Actually, Wailord was kinda inspired by Zeppelin's so that kinda makes sense(?)
Also Cosmoem is also inspired in a black hole so also kinda makes sense
Yeah, Wailord is specifically meant to float in the air as described, and Cosmoem is based on cosmic objects like neutron stars with similarly absurd densities.
The numbers are still kind of implausible anyway (how does Wailord swim?), but at least they're meant to be extreme in the way described here.
Magcargo has absolutely no excuse.
I’d like to imagine that Wailord can intake or expel large volumes of water.
@PeachCrusher69 actually, Necrozma is also inspired in a black hole, amd that is why it absorbs other things into him. Cosmoem would be more like a neutron star than a black hole, but also kind of applies
If the volume of Wailord was approximated more accurately it would be exactly neutrally buoyant in air. The devs knew what they were doing.
@PeachCrusher69 Ahhh, sorry, my use of prepositions never went quite well, so I did't realized 😅😅
Wailord is called "the float whale pokemon" - it's basically a blimp! I think the lighter than air thing is intentional!
No it's not.
@@FrenkieWest32 says who lol?
@@crayfishfuture the pokedex
@@FrenkieWest32 which is definitely always accurate and definitely reflects the intention of the person/people who created each pokémon?
okay boss, but maybe next time you don’t leave rude, useless comments that only prove your inability to communicate like a reasonable person? thanks
@@crayfishfuture yeah so the nickname ''float pokemon'' proves the intention of the creators but the pokedex which is distinctly said to be canon is not? What is this logic?
If anyone sounds aggressive and rude, it's you. Imagine getting emotional over pokemon...
My favourite is that Magikarp, the world's most pathetic pokemon, can - according to the Platinum dex - jump over mountains using its signature move Splash. The lowest elevation the UN recognises as a 'mountainous environment' is 300 meters, and to jump 300 meter up, it would have to have an initial speed of 76.71 m/s, which is 276.1 km/h or 171.6 mph (this is ignoring both that it would need to retain some horizontal velocity at the top to get to the other side of the mountain, and that it would lose speed to air resistance). A Magikarp is 22.0 lbs or 10.0 kg, so you would think getting hit by it at that speed would do any damage, whatsoever. What actually happens if you use Splash is that 'The user just flops and splashes around to no effect at all...'
In the anime, Magikarp evolving by itself pumped out like a kiloton of TNT equivalent. Like, that's its resting output. A 30 kilojoule Splash really is nothing of significance by Pokémon standards.
The exact entry is, "A Magikarp living for many years can leap a mountain using Splash. The move remains useless, though."
You could read this as I suspect you have: that an experienced Magikarp could leap mountains in a single splash.
But I read it differently: given enough time, a Magikarp could Splash its way up a mountain and down the other side, but it would take years.
This much power is useless if it can't be directed at the opponent - maybe it's an aim problem?
@@OriginalPiMan There's an official mobile game all about Magikarp using Splash to jump ridiculous heights (personal highest is 289.95 m). It's all at once.
@@TheRedSmarty How much of that is playing into the misunderstanding, though?
When I followed the link from Matt's video to come see this, I WAS NOT EXPECTING MATT PARKER IN THE EXACT SAME SHOT to greet me.
I can tell Tom's a real fan of Pokemon because he knows the "height" given of a long Pokemon is actually its length. (Look up the stats of any "snake" Pokemon)
On the flip side, I can see he's NOT a real fan and is just trying to game the TH-cam algorithm because the new game came out so he got a Pokemon shirt and tried to put out a video explaining the bad math in Pokemon but didn't explain any truly bad math because, Wailord IS A BLIMP of course it's lighter than air, Cosmoem is a Protostar so of course it's reaching critical mass before exploding into becoming a full fledged star, Blaziken is a CHICKEN not a fox...
And the most important things, the Pokedex is filled in generally by the player character, on the spot, after catching the pokemon. If scientists were filling in the data then why on Arceus's green Torterra do you have to catch the bloody pokemon to unlock the entry. It's as sensible as you can only read Wikipedia articles if you personally visit a location or witness an event or obtain an item from an event. That's why we have stupid numbers like 18,000 degrees F on Magcargo. Which why didn't you use the Celsius value of 10,000 degrees instead? Used metric for everything else...
Also, in Japanese, Height and Length are synonyms.
@@Kinkajou1015 considering the large pokeball tattoo on his forearm (the same one with the TH-cam play button tattoo, on the other side), I'd say he probably already owned that pokemon shirt.
Edit: I'm sorry, there are two different pokeball tattoos on that forearm.
The density of the actual black hole part of saggitarius A* is 10^16 kg/m^2. You can easily check if cosmoem is a black hole by checking if its shwatrzchild radius is larger than it, which it is very much not at only 10^-22 cm.
Some googling and poking around in Wolfram|Alpha suggests that an ~1oz Mars bar would release something like 0.3 * 10^16 J were it to be converted directly into energy. I'm not at all up-to-date with the Pokemon lore, but I'd sooner expect a hotter-than-the-sun snail to be fusing any candy bars it consumes rather than digesting/combusting them...
Given the tempreature of Magcargo's body. I think it's safe to assume that thermonuclear fusion takes place. (Sure, for plasma ~10 000 K might not be enough, but Magcargo's solid, so naturally there are much more collisions that can result in fusion). And 1200 MW equates to mere ~13 ng/s according to E=mc^2. It means, that it can burn more than 100 years without any food.
Are you assuming that its entire mass can be perfectly converted to energy? Because it's most likely that it's fusing light elements like hydrogen and helium, so its mass defect will be a relatively low proportion of its total body mass.
The wailord one is interesting because a part of me remembers something being said about wailord actually being able to fly. Which… would make sense if it was lighter than air. Although, it’s not really flying as much as it’s just floating
"the blimp pokeman floats like a blimp"
"yeah no shit"
"the star pokeman has the density of a star"
"again. no shit."
quality video
Given the density of Cosmoem, could you actually have it in your hand without tidal forces ripping you apart?
No worries here! 1000 kg at a distance of 5 cm applies only about one forty-thousandth of Earth's gravity. So it's negligible
It's important to remember that the (vast, vast) majority of the volume within a black holes event horizon is empty space. The singularity at the center is minuscule.
The event horizon of a very modest black hole is 26 km in diameter. If you spread out all the mass in a singularity evenly across the event horizon, you'd have a city-sized sphere of material roughly as dense as the Pokemon.
Sitting next to a city-sized mass of something is very different from sitting next to a Pokemon sized mass of that same thing.
Yeah, density doesn't matter here, does it... it would have the same effect as any other one-ton weight.
@@MrCheeze Yes and no - it reduces the minimum radius at which you could touch it
@@MrCheeze
Unless there were extreme forces holding it together, then it would instantly and explosively decompress. Every one of these dense Pokémon is a bomb waiting to go off.
That moment when I realize videos like these are to help get people intetested in math by associating it to familiar concepts, but i'm such a nerd i was interested in the math even without the pokemon association (which it just so happens i'm still also a fan of).
I mean, Cosmoem IS intended as a cosmic body, the name gives it away already. Maybe it is an actual black hole after all.
Accurate timestamps for the video:
0:00 Intro (Matt Parker from StandUpMaths cameo)
0:23 Tom starts talking
0:28 Wailord
5:04 Cosmoem
7:21 Magcargo
12:34 Summary and wrap up
12:45 Small note about Bewear
13:10 Small note about Rhyhorn
13:26 Small note about Blaziken
13:45 Conclusion
My biggest takeaway is that 1 mars bar per second is roughly equivalent to 1MW, so I can realistically be consuming 100kW for say 10 seconds if I were eating a mars bar over a 10 second period. The future of energy storage sure is wild...
If anything, you've proven that gamefreak is actually really consistent with the densities and lore
6:50 you sure Tom? There are neutron stars that are waaay denser than that, and blackholes are denser than neutron stars, right? Where did you get those numbers? I couldn't find any match online
Also Magcargo having such high temperature would emit so much radiation it would be blindingly bright and it would basically evaporate everything around it like a nuclear bomb.
iirc, the worse offender in terms of math is lanturn. it can illuminate the surface of water from a depth of 3 miles, or 5 kilometers in the japanese version. I have no idea about the math of light dissipation through materials, but if the guy that calculated it did everything right it means that it produces 10^105 Watts. would be interesting for a potential part 2 of the video
While they probably just wanted a cool pokedex entry, and didn't care about the physics, I think the simplest explanation that doesn't break physics is that they shed bioluminescent materials that float up.
Your density for Wailord is only correct if it is solid throughout. Suppose it is hollow, like a hot air balloon. If it is an envelope 2mm thick its density would be about that of water or flesh.
Doesn't matter for buoyancy, because it's the amount of mass displaced in total that determines what the "lifting force" is.
That really depends on whether you mean density to exclude air pockets or not- I think it should really include them.
We would still say a helium balloon floats because it is lighter than air, for example.
@@SimonBuchanNz But you're assuming it's full of vacuum. It's actually full of some combination of air and water, which it could potentially use to adjust its ballast. What matters for buoyancy is weight of fluid displaced (buoyant force) vs weight of the object. What the original comment is suggesting is that if it's a 2mm thick shell of flesh, the weight of the water it displaces when fully submerged (and filled with water) is equal to the weight of its flesh, thus being neutrally buoyant. If it's partially filled with air, then it will float partially above the water.
@@harrygenderson6847 You're assuming I'm assuming that, actually. Generally whatever's in a fish (or anything else) counts to it's weight. That's why we have wet and dry weights, afterall.
@@SimonBuchanNz It's problematic if whatever's inside counts to its weight in this case, since it could contain a maximum of 399L of water before the rest of its body is massless. Saying it's a 2mm thick shell full of vacuum would then be the most charitable assumption, since this would give reasonable body density. However, I'm also assuming that the mass given is absolute, and has buoyancy during measuring accounted for. Otherwise it could just be dry weight, in which case the true weight is higher by the weight of air it displaces, which is non-negligible.
neutron star has a density of the order 10^17kg/m^3 so I will say cosmoem is OK as a star-like pokemon.
I can't wait to see all the new pokedex entries on gen 9 pokedex(Pokemon scarlet and violet)
1267 Mars bars “difficult enough in a lifetime..? You underestimate my power!
I am more curious about the effects of Magcargo's heat radiation on his trainer, assuming the trainer is roughly .5m away while battling. I cannot imagine that would be good for the skin .... or the internal organs .... or living.
I love "terminal montage" (I believe that's the name of the channel) animation, it shows it literally creating an extreme heat wave melting almost everything in a huge radius, is a good representation of what would happen if the pokedex wasn't written by dumb 10 years old with a lot of creativity
It's crazy that I was doing this same math myself yesterday at work and today it comes up in my feed.
Wailord Floating in air and Cosmoem being denser that a star are both completely intended.
Today I learned Pokemon is a 100% physically accurate to reality game with no problems or violations of the laws of physics or biology what so ever.
I'm not sure what happened but once you started mistaking 1200 MW for 12000 MW, it turned into chaos with 230 cal and 1276 mars bars. 😂
For the snail-like pokémon, shouldn't the area be only the body without the shell? It would still be a ridiculous output, but slightly less so.
As for the bear one, I suppose 3000N would be for an adult, but I assume the younger the trainer, the easier it'll get (if you have a toddler at home, please DON'T try it).
Surely but for rounding, that’s 1.21GW - enough to power a flux capacitor…
Tbf wailord is designed on purpose to look like a blimp, and Cosmoem basically is a living black hole, so honestly these numbers make a certain kind of sense
The cylinder is an overestimation of waylord's volume, so it's density is likely actually less than air. Still ridiculously low density, though. Also, Cosmoem is not denser than a black hole of the same size. Both a 10^4 and a 10^7 kg black hole would actually be microscopic. The Schwarzschild density of black holes gets lower the bigger the black hole is, and Sagittarius A* is over 4 million solar masses - far bigger than any star.
So, 1 magcargo could power Doc Brown's Delorean! 1.21 "jigawatts", Marty!
your approximation of Wailords size being a cylinder is pretty bold, not to mention, it's called the float whale pokemon and the dex says that it takes one breath and dives 10000 feet underwater, so maybe its weight was measured with the least possible air inside, possibly also how it can leap so far into the air. And Cosmoem eats stardust, I'm pretty sure it literally is supposed to be a black hole from another dimension.
Love the perspective put on things, however all of your estimates are biased towards the extreme side. For example, using the wailord as a cylinder, it's is a cylinder, but with chunks removed like rounding corners and a comparatively sizeable amount for the space between main body and tail. I think if you factored the cylinder down to .8x to account for the missing parts of the cylinder, it would still result in a crazy number, but at least would be more "realistic" for its proportions (if still not overestimated). Whereas if for cosmog, if you estimated it as a full sphere you would still come up with a very extremely (ungodly) dense pokemon, but could still say that you're erring on the conservative side, and cosmog is likely way more dense than that.
To sum up, when comparing extremes, I feel that one should compare conservative estimates and then say it in all likelihood is more extreme as opposed to using estimates that appear more biased toward the extreme result.
Omg, it all makes sense now, that's why the bowl of petunia's said "Oh no, not again."
This isn't about Gamefreak not doing the math, but rather Pokémon just being that ridiculous.
In Pokémon Go you can see Golem moving faster than light. In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon you can see Mega Mewtwo X destroying a star as part of the plot, in Ultra Sun and Moon Ultra Necrozma, as part of the plot, absorbed all the light in the universe and emitted enough to make a planet over 13,000 light years away feel like high noon (said emitted light arrived in seconds, not millennia). Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina have all been shown to destroy and create universes in the games, anime, and manga. Arceus, while heavily depowered, shifting in its sleep was almost enough to destroy 2 universes in the Jewel of Life movie. Episode 1 Pikachu put out a Thunderbolt on par with the biggest non-nuclear bomb ever detonated, going by the crater. Magikarp was pumping out a kiloton of TNT equivalent just by evolving in the anime. Azelf made a black hole in the manga.
These aren't off-hand Pokédex entries, but actual stuff we directly observe Pokémon doing. And frankly, the Pokédex entries are tame by comparison.
Oh a cylinder. So what you're really saying is the spherical approximation only works with cows.
My takeaway from this is that if we wanted to convert Drax to burn Mars Bars instead of biomass, we'd need to shovel in nearly 4000 per second.
Don't forget that diglett can move at the speed of light lol
if i attach a baloon full of helium to a scale I should get a negative value for its weight instead of a positive one right? because a balloon full of helium is less dense than the atmosphere around me and would want to foat away rather than push down on my scale right?
Note: Supermassive blackholes are actually not that dense compared to neutron stars because the density of a black hole is inversely proportional to the square of its mass, when you combine the Schwarzschild radius formula with the volume of a sphere formula. But a blackhole with a radius of 5 cm should be much denser, with a mass of 5.637 times that of Earth's and a density of around 6.4*10^28 kg/m^3.
I feel like the actual volume of that whale would be closer to 2/3 of the cylinder...
Wailord is the blimp pokemon. Its measurements are intentional.
Honestly part of the charm of the pokemon series is the unbelievable absurdity of the pokedex, theres a chandelier that will eat your soul, a little lizard thing that will eat an entire mountain, a fish that can jump over a mountain, and whatever chestnaught is supposed to be it can flip a tank. These little mathematical "quirks" are just part of the absurdity, and honestly if larvitar consistently eat actual mountains I can totally see magcargo eating thousands of mars bars a second
Ohhh! It's that Tom! The alternative mathematician from Numberphile. I kept trying to figure out who he meant when I watched Matt's video.
I find it bothering that he never corrected for his rough estimation of Wailords volume. If you subtract the empty space that makes up the difference between the cylinder he illustrated and Wailords actual dimensions, The true volume would be between 10 and 20% less. This would make the Pokémon probably as dense as air, not lighter than that.
WHY have I never known in all this time that Matt has a second channel?! Thank you for making this video
It'd be interesting to see what the physics of the Pokémon world would have to be for these to "realistic".
"a leaf from the physicists notebook"😂
On the previous page: "let's assume a spherical chicken of uniform density"
Another Pokémon that's crazy is Lanturn!
Some of it's Pokédex entries state that it emits light bright enough to be visible on the water surface 5 kilometres (approx. 3 miles in the English localisation) below that surface.
Now, water dampens light at an exponential rate and-- long story short; it would need to emit 10^105 Watts of energy, more than any nuclear test, ever!
Also, Macargo's body is 10 000 degrees Celsius, canonically, the English localisation approximates that to 18 000 Fahrenheit. Which changes very little to your equation, but might still be nice to know!
I so wish it had not been ‘weight’ in kg, I know that in everyday use…. But when you’re trying to get over the distinction between weight and mass - and then do some density practice……
To be fair, Cosmoeon is a cosmic entity, so having density values more at home in the cosmic realm than the earthly realm is on theme.
I'm not sure where that black hole density figure came from, but a quick google search came up with a neutron stare as having a density of 10^17 kg/cubic meter, which is much denser than Cosmoeon.
According to multiple pokedex entries, arcanine can run over 6200 miles in 24 hours, giving it an average hourly speed of around 258 mph. If we assume that is it's max speed, let's compare that to an F1 car (or the best figures I could find):
F1 speed record (not on a track): 247mph
F1 fastest average lap speed: 164mph
If we assume arcanine has a similar handling/cornering to an F1 car, so a similar ratio of max to average speed, it'd be around 5 seconds quicker on the specific lap I was looking at (around 6% faster).
Another fun comparison mostly for UK people: arcanine could do land's end to john o'groats AND BACK 2.5 times a day.
I always reconciled this with the fact that Prof. Oak sent 2 ten year olds who don't know anything about the scale of the real world to connect Pokemon and make a log of them. Also, Blaziken is a fire chicken! Ba-CAAAAAAW
I wish Tom could have overheard my 6-year-old engaged in a card trading discussion today when my son said "ACTUALLY, this Pokemon is as dense as a black hole. It doesn't say so on the card but it's mathematically true."
So you're telling me that Magcargo outputs as near as makes no difference 1.21GW? I need one for... innocent, non-time-travelling purposes.
I missed when they did maths on game theory, thanks for bringing this back
I mean it IS literally called the Float Whale Pokémon.
Also I learned it takes a thousand Magcargo to time travel. Guess Celebi's out of a job.
1267 Mars bars is doable in about 3½ years if you ate one every day, so maybe not such an impossible target if one is allowed to take one's time 🤣
I think you rather drastically over-estimated Wailord's volume-it's nowhere near cylindrical-but by enough to stop it floating away? 🤷♂ I wouldn't take much though, the figures are pretty close.
All that maths and you didn't realise Wailord is a blimp?
"this is ridiculous, but this is only ½ the story!!" Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cylindrical Wailord in vacuum joke
LOL this is so funny I love math and Pokémon u made me laugh a lot XDD
There are 3 universes of physics in Pokémon, the games (most realistic), the anime, and the pokedex (least realistic).
If we take them as observations rather than inaccuracies, then there are a lot of scientific consequences. Like (taking anime&pokedex), it would seem likely that air on the Pokémon world is less dense than on Earth, leading to a lower gravity... which corrolates with Jessy and James being able to be blown high into the sky and still survive, as well as Blaziken being able to jump higher than a human on Earth.
And How many calories are in a liter of lava? Likely the diet of Magcargo as it is the energy source where they live.
It gets interesting when you around for the people in Pokémon being different from humans. A species that evolved around and eventually dominated creatures that can produce just all the volts of electricity. We see Ash in the anime constantly take thunderbolts, and we can either believe it is impossible or take it as an observation and conclude that their bodies have different structures than ours, in material composition of skin to electrically favorable pathways away from important organs~
So what if the whale was actually full of water in water but empties out when putting it in a Pokéball? That would explain how the density is different.
I knew Wailord was quite light for its size and that Cosmoem is quite heavy for its size, but I never realized their weights were quite THAT absurd. I don't recall the last time I even saw a Magcargo pokedex entry though so that one was a total surprise. What a ridiculous pokemon.
Another one is that magikarp can jump over mountains and in the show Ash’s magikarp jumped out into space and then landed a couple hours later (and survived)
I fucking love this shit
How was i not already subscribed to this channel?
It’s worth differentiating between weight and mass. We can usually ignore buoyancy from air when weighing animals to estimate their masses, but clearly Wailord’s density is so low that we cannot. However, the fact that we measured a weight means that it is not lighter than air.
I also have a tackle powerful enough to bring down a skyscraper... ;)
13:27 - um, Blaziken is a rooster, Delphox is fire fox
I told you! Wailord is just a big balloon!
This video is fantastic
Cosmoem looks like it's designed to resemble a black hole, and the density of a black hole decreases with Schwarzschild radius: Sagittarius A* may not be denser than Cosmoem, but Cosmoem-sized black hole (about 5cm radius, couple Earth masses) would have a density of 6.4248e28 kg/m³. On the other hand, TON 618 has a density of 0.0045 kg/m³, even lighter than Wailord!
Wailord sorta makes sense if it takes on water as ballast like a sub does.
Good old physicists and their perfectly spherical cows (or cylindrical wailords in this case)
(And to be fair to Cosmoem - It's literally a star cocoon from another dimension and/or interdimensional space. The whale blimp is easily worse, but possibly deliberate)
why didn't my school used pokemon to teach math. it was even in Japan for f sake
black holes can actually have fairly low density at larger sizes. A galaxy mass black hole would have a density about that of water and a surface gravity close to Earth's.
I have a guess that Game Freak has at least taken physics into more consideration for certain Pokémon over others. Take Cosmoem for example. Cosmoem is supposed to be like its pupa state between Cosmog and Solgaleo or Lunala, and I think the whole evolutionary line is supposed to mimic the life cycle of a star. Cosmog is the Stellar Nebula, Cosmoem skips the massive star and red supergiant steps and becomes the moment before the star collapses into a supernova, and Solgaleo and Lunala are supposed to be that supernova. Apparently, supernovae leave behind dense cores. That could be the inspiration to Cosmoem's density. Either that or Game Freak was aiming to make Cosmoem a blackhole-like Pokémon.
Either way, I think sometimes Game Freak's Pokédex physics are more intentional for some Pokémon more than others (like Wailord).
Seriously though where is the shirt from?!
I did this same style math on Wailord before I think I used info from pokemon go and with the variable weights had one that was less dense than hydrogen.
You are making the assumption that Wailord is solid, when they are quite obviously mostly hollow. (Think submarine)
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Well, I guess now we know how Wailord can learn Bounce
It seemed obvious when you first gave the numbers that the wailord was way too light, just from knowing roughly the size and weight of actual whales. But then the numbers came out almost 1:1 and I thought, ‘what? So actually it’s about neutrally buoyant in sea water? Perfect!’ Then I realised that was kg per square metre, not kilograms per litre. 😂 Cosmoem seemed about right though; with a name like that it may as well be denser than a black hole.
For any Americans who don’t understand the Mars bar scale, here’s a fact I love from Wikipedia: the Milky Way bar's American version is made of caramel and covered with milk chocolate, similar to the Mars bar sold outside of the U.S. The global Milky Way is a different chocolate candy bar similar to the American 3 Musketeers.
So the US Customary Unit equivalent to the Mars bar is the Milky Way bar.
I thought black holes have infinite density
And if 14.5 m is Wailord's HEIGHT instead of length... it should be REALLY floating up in the sky. 😀
Should have calculated the hue magcargo ahould glow at. I believe 10000K black body radiation is probably more of a blueish white than the "cool" red it actually shows
they didn't pay the maths budget...
The pokedex is filled in by a bunch of ten year olds with zero help, so a lot of the big numbers are probably made up just because "it weighs a tonne" literally would make it 1,000kg, which is it's weight before converting to imperial and back.