First test with the metal bar the Bosch was at a disadvantage because the metal bar was at its longest and was bouncing up and down a lot but with each cut less so
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, Bosch was 2nd-best, the Milwaukee did the worst, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching and sharing.
as soon as you started cutting I could see the first issue with the setup - that angle iron is wobbling all over the place but it's going to be more rigid when you get closer to where it's mounted, and the blades with a more rigid setup will have an advantage
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, the Milwaukee did the worst at that test anyway, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching sharing.
@@Shoptoolreviews I was thinking same thing more often than not you end up with this scenario, life doesn’t allow ideal conditions every time and what good is testing during ideal conditions if that occurs only a few times?
@@Shoptoolreviews I mean I feel like anyone who's ever cut anything with power tools (or even a hand saw) much less been on a job site, knows that it absolutely does matter how much overhang you have..... it might not matter with something like an angle grinder but it's rather obvious the bar is getting vibrated alot by the multi tool. It's hard with a sawzall and that's just 2 directions this tool is vibrating the bar in all directions. Overhang is directly proportional to cutting speed.
Ive never been disappointed with any of my carbide milwaukee blades. If there is a blade style type that milwaukee doesnt make. Diablo is almost always my 2nd choice.
I stumbled onto this review by accident, great review, thank you, I always favored Bosch. I have many Bosch products. I'm not biased by only using Bosch, I just bought a Dewalt ovulating tool to take apart reclaimed lumber, needing to get through nails and staples. Now I know what and what not to look for. Thank You for the review.
Multitool is the best home tool ever. I use mine for slicing cardboard regularly. Then its crazy handy for cutting nails off or cutting wood where nothing else will work
I believe this was a very good test and shows the value of these blades. There's so many situations where nothing will work except a multi tool! I personally use Diablo carbide, but i never use it on the short position like you did here. I wonder if that makes much of a difference? I will have to try the Bosch after watching this!
Curious if the longer length of the Milwaukee blade makes any difference in its performance at all. It would be interesting to test both blade lengths on the Diablo to see if that affects the cutting speed, though the long blade position on that looks like it could potentially be less secure since it has a gap in the two positions closes to the tool
That isn't BOSCH's top dog blade for cutting metal, although it already has Carbide blades. They released a different, more resistant, series. Thanks for the testing. 👍
I only use Milwaukee and Diablo. For the Christmas sale Diablo had a sale on them. They had not sold them and had a bunch marked down. I grabbed a couple packs and then i got to thinking. Wish i had got more. Next morning went back and bought what was left 8 or 9 packs. I was thinking they were 14.99 or 19.99 originally. I payed 9.9? Per pack. 5.00 for a Carbide blade, im in. I just found my empty cases, "Trial offer, 2 blades for the price if 1" Universal fit Carbide blade. Im in Thanks for another great video and review brother.
@@CoKanet-no2jt Yes sir. I didn't mention it but I got three packs of the 7.25 blades, the 14 pc set of the high speed steel spade set (2) and three packs of the jig saw blades. I was pretty shocked to see them all discounted at 50% off the "special" price. Right place place, right time I guess. Edi: Just checked, only two of the circular saw blade packs.
I personally like the longer blades to use instead of a reciprocating saw for cutting nails if I put one in the wrong spot. I still love my reciprocating saw but the oscillating multi tool has replaced it in a lot of tasks for me.
Very interesting and must admit you made very thin cuts with the angle iron so not much issue with vibration. I notice the Milwaukee has smaller teeth may be very good with nails etc. Be interesting to try the blades that work well on wood and nails. The difference in the prices are not huge as well. End up saving more with the better blades
I do remodeling and actually I have the best luck with the dremel carbide 3 pack for like $35, obviously I haven't cut this many screws at ones but I have never worn the teeth, they cut slow on wood and smoke a lot because the teeth are so small and get clog very fast, I guess use the right blade for the job, and this are the best when cutting there you are not sure what is in the wood or the drywall
I have only used three brands but the Dremel Carbide didn’t hold up for me on screws. I think I was only able to do 6 or so and it sucked. Was cutting out some screws on a deck. I also had to modify it to fit the Bauer which I use with M18 adapter.
The Bosch blade got shortchanged because the bar was moving up and down; wasn't positioned solid like for the other blades. The Bosch carbide blades are very good and last a long time.
WoW , that was a Great Test and the results were really surprising , but I never cut steel with a Oscillating tool anyway .. When it comes to Wood I buy my blades from Amazon I get about 50 blades for like $20 😂😅 , I know I know , crazy right but I swear those cheap wood blades last a Looong time especially for 50 cents each ....😂😅
First why is dewalt non carbide so expensive? And second I’ve noticed a decrease in Diablo quality over the last year in skill saw blades, multi tool, hole saw bits and recip blades. The came out blasting and on top when they came out now I think they’re just cutting quality and boosting profits
Why is it that no multi tool blade lasts for as long as the price they charge for them? they are so expensive and are cooked so quickly. it’s frustrating but then I suppose multi tools are normally used in desperate situations when they are the last resort.
2 rules. ANY metal, use carbide. For wood only use bimetal blades. Bimetal blades are no good for metal, no matter what they say. Even if it say "wood with nails," don't believe it.
Thank you. We could've put it in a vice, but we were wanting to mimic real world use. Also, that definitely didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching.
Milwaukee was the only one that had a freshly charged battery for the bolts. Never mind the battery indicator, the others had a partly-charged battery.
That's not gonna make more than a tiny difference on a brushless tool, the tooth composition and shape and the rate at which they wear is the important part
That really shouldn't be an issue for newer Lithium-ion batteries. They don't have the voltage drop-off like the older NiMH batteries did. Thanks for watching.
I agree that the first test was a bit unfair with the bar having too much flex since you wouldn’t be cutting small tips off that far out without some support. Also which tool you use can make a difference the Milwaukee tool on speed 8 could be a different speed on a dewalt, ridgid, ryobi, or other brand.
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, the Milwaukee did the worst at that test anyway, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Regardless of the tool being used, we wanted it to be the exact same tool, with the exact same settings with each test. Thus, we used the Milwaukee, with a full battery, on speed 8. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews I fully respect this response. I've seen several tests of these tools and blades, and each is different. Most have the same results even if the executions are different.
A nasty little bolt I’m up against is an old rust Mercedes seat bolt , they will strip out this little sleeve glide keepers , bolt has no other way to come out either by drilling or cutting . No sawzaw is reaching it , it’s this or drill , or heavy blows with a wedge . Heat induction could have helped things , a step if not taken to save your hardware your onto the heavier road
We started to grab that blade too, but they list it as Metal and Wood. We were specifically grabbing the Metal only blades. In hindsight, we probably should've included that one too. Thanks for watching and sharing.
I wouldn't use screws for this. Most screws are cast meaning they are porous. Forged Steel nails destroy a blade so much quicker... trust me i know. You can probably get through 5 3.5 inch steel nails before you lose a few teeth on a diablo.
That's interesting that the only thing you state is that "this guys definitely sponsored." No data, no details. We run a test using the same power tool, showing every blade. Not sure how this one can be swayed. Thanks for watching.
That's a FAIL from the get go.... with the bar hanging out that far you can't control the vibrations.... are you f... kidding me? NOBODY would _EVER_ cut it like that !?!?!
The Diablo was handicapped by a less than full battery. You changed for the Milwaukee. 75% vs. 100% charge is a significant difference. Each test should be done with a 100% charged battery, not just four bars showing.
If we were using Nickel Metal Hydride batteries, your point would be valid. These new Lithium ion batteries do not fall off in performance like that. The Diablo blade was not suffering from lack of voltage.
In my experience the Milwaukee blade’s are not much have not tried the new ones yet. There hardwood blade’s are the pieces of trash. Brand new me and my brother tried to cut a notch out two blades done and never made a good inch cut before gone smoking DeWalt ain’t worth a nickel either.
Metal is not a solid test. Cut drywall & stucco with it. Opening walls is the majority of what i use this for as a plumber. Plunge cuts to notch wood would be second and hard to reach metal parts where a copper cutter may not turn. Walls ruin the blades 10x faster than anything else i do. To the point i literally include a few blades in the quote and each one ends up with a V shape well past the teeth, as i force it thru stucco walls in older buildings.
So far, the only blade i haven't destroyed is the newer Milwaukee Titanium Nitrus blades. Instead of going thru 2-3 blades per job, I've been using the same one for the last 5 gigs and it's still sharp. Currently only $35 for a 3 pack. And look at this. It won your comparison test.
@@grikemimes yea, i get that. I was just saying there is a material that wears them out faster and is a better indicator of which blade is actually best. But same result
@@Shoptoolreviews why not? You're of the mindset that everyone on the planet does only what is intended? Each brand has one drywall blade and they don't work. I was just suggesting a material that would provide a very harsh and better indicator of the quality of the blade. Which is the point of your comparison. You don't have to be so rigid little buddy.
First test with the metal bar the Bosch was at a disadvantage because the metal bar was at its longest and was bouncing up and down a lot but with each cut less so
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, Bosch was 2nd-best, the Milwaukee did the worst, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching and sharing.
as soon as you started cutting I could see the first issue with the setup - that angle iron is wobbling all over the place but it's going to be more rigid when you get closer to where it's mounted, and the blades with a more rigid setup will have an advantage
Yep just wanted to write this, first test is flawed unfortunately.
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, the Milwaukee did the worst at that test anyway, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching sharing.
@@Shoptoolreviews where those Diablo tool safety glasses come from 🤷🏻♂️😂😂😂😂
@@Shoptoolreviews I was thinking same thing more often than not you end up with this scenario, life doesn’t allow ideal conditions every time and what good is testing during ideal conditions if that occurs only a few times?
@@Shoptoolreviews I mean I feel like anyone who's ever cut anything with power tools (or even a hand saw) much less been on a job site, knows that it absolutely does matter how much overhang you have..... it might not matter with something like an angle grinder but it's rather obvious the bar is getting vibrated alot by the multi tool. It's hard with a sawzall and that's just 2 directions this tool is vibrating the bar in all directions. Overhang is directly proportional to cutting speed.
Ive never been disappointed with any of my carbide milwaukee blades. If there is a blade style type that milwaukee doesnt make. Diablo is almost always my 2nd choice.
Diablo is always a great choice for saw blades. Thanks for watching.
Great head-to-head test! Really curious is the Starlock plays into the performance at all for the Bosch.
That’s an interesting thought. Maybe the full circumference of the blade connection, providing more power delivery to the actual teeth.
Bosch and Jorgensen multi blades have always worked great for me 💯
Thank you for the video. My mind is going numb because as you know, it’s too cold here in Florida to even go out in the shop.😂
At least for us Floridians it is.
Aww poor baby
I stumbled onto this review by accident, great review, thank you, I always favored Bosch.
I have many Bosch products.
I'm not biased by only using Bosch, I just bought a Dewalt ovulating tool to take apart reclaimed lumber, needing to get through nails and staples.
Now I know what and what not to look for.
Thank You for the review.
Ovulating tool?
Great test. Thx for the vid.
So running on 8 is not optimal has the SFM is to high for a saw blade. Would like to see the test performed at optimum speed for the material.
Multitool is the best home tool ever. I use mine for slicing cardboard regularly. Then its crazy handy for cutting nails off or cutting wood where nothing else will work
I believe this was a very good test and shows the value of these blades. There's so many situations where nothing will work except a multi tool! I personally use Diablo carbide, but i never use it on the short position like you did here. I wonder if that makes much of a difference? I will have to try the Bosch after watching this!
Curious if the longer length of the Milwaukee blade makes any difference in its performance at all. It would be interesting to test both blade lengths on the Diablo to see if that affects the cutting speed, though the long blade position on that looks like it could potentially be less secure since it has a gap in the two positions closes to the tool
I always use my Diablo blades on the long position and I've never had any issues with them!
That isn't BOSCH's top dog blade for cutting metal, although it already has Carbide blades. They released a different, more resistant, series.
Thanks for the testing. 👍
We were not aware that Bosch has a better metal blade. Thanks for sharing.
I only use Milwaukee and Diablo. For the Christmas sale Diablo had a sale on them. They had not sold them and had a bunch marked down. I grabbed a couple packs and then i got to thinking. Wish i had got more. Next morning went back and bought what was left 8 or 9 packs. I was thinking they were 14.99 or 19.99 originally. I payed 9.9? Per pack.
5.00 for a Carbide blade, im in.
I just found my empty cases,
"Trial offer, 2 blades for the price if 1" Universal fit Carbide blade. Im in
Thanks for another great video and review brother.
Don't forget to get the circular saw blades. Picked up 6 and 7 inch. The packs came with 2 framing blades for 12 bucks
@@CoKanet-no2jt
Yes sir. I didn't mention it but I got three packs of the 7.25 blades, the 14 pc set of the high speed steel spade set (2) and three packs of the jig saw blades. I was pretty shocked to see them all discounted at 50% off the "special" price.
Right place place, right time I guess.
Edi: Just checked, only two of the circular saw blade packs.
Those are great prices.
I personally like the longer blades to use instead of a reciprocating saw for cutting nails if I put one in the wrong spot. I still love my reciprocating saw but the oscillating multi tool has replaced it in a lot of tasks for me.
Saw the TikTok on this and came straight over here 🤙
Thank you very much, we appreciate it.
Inaccurate test due to length from anchor point on the bench. Which blade post test cuts anything? I'm guessing the Bosch would be top dog.
I haven't bought any of the more expensive blades yet. I started out with the cheaper ones from Amazon. I've gotta get some of those blades.
Very interesting and must admit you made very thin cuts with the angle iron so not much issue with vibration. I notice the Milwaukee has smaller teeth may be very good with nails etc. Be interesting to try the blades that work well on wood and nails. The difference in the prices are not huge as well. End up saving more with the better blades
Milwaukee metal blade is a beast
I do remodeling and actually I have the best luck with the dremel carbide 3 pack for like $35, obviously I haven't cut this many screws at ones but I have never worn the teeth, they cut slow on wood and smoke a lot because the teeth are so small and get clog very fast, I guess use the right blade for the job, and this are the best when cutting there you are not sure what is in the wood or the drywall
We looked for a DREMEL metal blade, but we only found bi-Metal blades from them
I have only used three brands but the Dremel Carbide didn’t hold up for me on screws. I think I was only able to do 6 or so and it sucked. Was cutting out some screws on a deck. I also had to modify it to fit the Bauer which I use with M18 adapter.
The Bosch blade got shortchanged because the bar was moving up and down; wasn't positioned solid like for the other blades. The Bosch carbide blades are very good and last a long time.
Great channel.
Thanks for the visit
Where did you get the Diablo safety glasses?
I’m sure from a Diablo event in the past.
WoW , that was a Great Test and the results were really surprising , but I never cut steel with a Oscillating tool anyway .. When it comes to Wood I buy my blades from Amazon I get about 50 blades for like $20 😂😅 , I know I know , crazy right but I swear those cheap wood blades last a Looong time especially for 50 cents each ....😂😅
Maybe next time you can test the Dremel carbide blades.
First why is dewalt non carbide so expensive? And second I’ve noticed a decrease in Diablo quality over the last year in skill saw blades, multi tool, hole saw bits and recip blades. The came out blasting and on top when they came out now I think they’re just cutting quality and boosting profits
Why is it that no multi tool blade lasts for as long as the price they charge for them? they are so expensive and are cooked so quickly. it’s frustrating but then I suppose multi tools are normally used in desperate situations when they are the last resort.
We would like to see prices come down. However, we have seen carbide blades made, and it’s not an easy or cheap process.
2 rules. ANY metal, use carbide. For wood only use bimetal blades. Bimetal blades are no good for metal, no matter what they say. Even if it say "wood with nails," don't believe it.
Once you touch a piece of metal with a regular steel blade, it's cooked. Bimetal blades are better, but I only use carbide for any metal contact.
@@littlejackalo5326 yeah they should use Cobolt really. cheaper than carbide and nearly as durable. a good middle ground
That first test wasn’t overly fair the angle was vibrating the more over hang there was but still 👍 good enough
Thank you. We could've put it in a vice, but we were wanting to mimic real world use. Also, that definitely didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching.
Milwaukee was the only one that had a freshly charged battery for the bolts.
Never mind the battery indicator, the others had a partly-charged battery.
That's not gonna make more than a tiny difference on a brushless tool, the tooth composition and shape and the rate at which they wear is the important part
Thanks, this was really helpful.
Look you should test with the same battery power and same length of material then you get a true test for each
CMT blades?
We used any of the Oscillating Multi-Tool blades that we could find, which were specific for Metal only.
Wouldn't you want to swap in a fresh battery for each test?
That really shouldn't be an issue for newer Lithium-ion batteries. They don't have the voltage drop-off like the older NiMH batteries did. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Actually they do. Not as much as a NiMH but still noticible with a stopwatch.
I agree that the first test was a bit unfair with the bar having too much flex since you wouldn’t be cutting small tips off that far out without some support.
Also which tool you use can make a difference the Milwaukee tool on speed 8 could be a different speed on a dewalt, ridgid, ryobi, or other brand.
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, the Milwaukee did the worst at that test anyway, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results.
Regardless of the tool being used, we wanted it to be the exact same tool, with the exact same settings with each test. Thus, we used the Milwaukee, with a full battery, on speed 8. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews I fully respect this response. I've seen several tests of these tools and blades, and each is different. Most have the same results even if the executions are different.
In all seriousness u kept the the Bosch blade straight and the Milwaukee u moved it back and forth
Any info on new flex high torque
Glad we could help. Thanks for watching.
Lets see em on a Grade 5 bolt and, god help us, a Grade 8! Lets get gnarly!
Why didn't you test the Fein blades? They originated the oscillating saw.
We only used blades that we could find on the shelves at local supply houses.
A nasty little bolt I’m up against is an old rust Mercedes seat bolt , they will strip out this little sleeve glide keepers , bolt has no other way to come out either by drilling or cutting . No sawzaw is reaching it , it’s this or drill , or heavy blows with a wedge . Heat induction could have helped things , a step if not taken to save your hardware your onto the heavier road
You forgot the best....EZARC
Dewalt has a carbide OMT blade that works well in my experience.
We started to grab that blade too, but they list it as Metal and Wood. We were specifically grabbing the Metal only blades. In hindsight, we probably should've included that one too. Thanks for watching and sharing.
I wouldn't use screws for this. Most screws are cast meaning they are porous. Forged Steel nails destroy a blade so much quicker... trust me i know. You can probably get through 5 3.5 inch steel nails before you lose a few teeth on a diablo.
The diablo let me down.
It works better than tested. As he pointed out the longer the blade the more aggressive. He then used the short position to make it less aggressive.
😎⚒️😎⚒️😎
Thanks for watching.
you forget to test homedepot, lowes and harbour freight brand for another price level
These blades are from Home Depot and Lowe’s. We didn’t know that harbor freight has an OMT blade specifically for metal.
@@Shoptoolreviews Bascially, most DIY or prosumer do quite care about this, a simple test on those blade can reveal the potential hahah
Tool Milwauke was used blade
This guys definitely sponsored
That's interesting that the only thing you state is that "this guys definitely sponsored." No data, no details. We run a test using the same power tool, showing every blade. Not sure how this one can be swayed. Thanks for watching.
That's a FAIL from the get go.... with the bar hanging out that far you can't control the vibrations.... are you f... kidding me?
NOBODY would _EVER_ cut it like that !?!?!
Diablo then spider , no other blades
Spyder doesn’t work well with metal.
The Diablo was handicapped by a less than full battery. You changed for the Milwaukee. 75% vs. 100% charge is a significant difference. Each test should be done with a 100% charged battery, not just four bars showing.
If we were using Nickel Metal Hydride batteries, your point would be valid. These new Lithium ion batteries do not fall off in performance like that. The Diablo blade was not suffering from lack of voltage.
I only had the dewalt and thought these tools just suck at cutting screws. Wow dewalts blades suck!
I bought the same Milwaukee blade and I cut one screw and it took the teeth of the blade right off
That’s surprising. We’ve tested that blade several times.
What screw was it. If it was dry wall or a similar hardened steel then they notorious for killing metal cutting blades.
That is a lie I will never look at your tv show
Who makes the best Omt blades? Diablo
In my experience Diablo makes the best tool accessories and at a decent price.
Yup.
I would have normally agreed until I used these new Milwaukee nitrous blades which are much better than their old ones which were mediocre at best
That's definitely hard to argue. They make great blades in general, of all types. Thanks for watching.
In my experience the Milwaukee blade’s are not much have not tried the new ones yet. There hardwood blade’s are the pieces of trash. Brand new me and my brother tried to cut a notch out two blades done and never made a good inch cut before gone smoking DeWalt ain’t worth a nickel either.
That's interesting. Of course, these were specific for Metal, so they're totally different blades. Thanks for watching.
Metal is not a solid test. Cut drywall & stucco with it. Opening walls is the majority of what i use this for as a plumber.
Plunge cuts to notch wood would be second and hard to reach metal parts where a copper cutter may not turn.
Walls ruin the blades 10x faster than anything else i do. To the point i literally include a few blades in the quote and each one ends up with a V shape well past the teeth, as i force it thru stucco walls in older buildings.
So far, the only blade i haven't destroyed is the newer Milwaukee Titanium Nitrus blades. Instead of going thru 2-3 blades per job, I've been using the same one for the last 5 gigs and it's still sharp. Currently only $35 for a 3 pack.
And look at this. It won your comparison test.
This was a test specifically for metal tho...
@@grikemimes yea, i get that. I was just saying there is a material that wears them out faster and is a better indicator of which blade is actually best. But same result
If they make them specific for Metal, we’re not going to test them on drywall.
@@Shoptoolreviews why not? You're of the mindset that everyone on the planet does only what is intended? Each brand has one drywall blade and they don't work.
I was just suggesting a material that would provide a very harsh and better indicator of the quality of the blade. Which is the point of your comparison.
You don't have to be so rigid little buddy.
Not a fair test at all!
Why?