False Color has BIG Issues! - Why EL Zones is Taking Over

False Color has a lot of problems that not a lot of people know about. I go over the issues and a possible solution.
---------------------------------
EL Zones Monitors
---------------------------------
Atomos Ninja 5.2 ➡ amzn.to/3JS1CYW (Amazon)
Atomos Ninja Ultra ➡ 5.2 amzn.to/3y5KP2b (Amazon)
Atomos Shogun 7 ➡ amzn.to/3JLLicp (Amazon)
Atomos Shogun Ultra ➡ amzn.to/3y2AiEG (Amazon)
SmallHD Cine 5 ➡ amzn.to/4dvlEq0 (Amazon)
SmallHD Indie 5 ➡ amzn.to/4brCVi0 (Amazon)
SmallHD Ultra 5 ➡ amzn.to/3JPO3Jv (Amazon)
--------------------------------
Photos Used
--------------------------------
Pexels - Free Stock Photos ➡ www.pexels.com/
Videomaker ➡ shorturl.at/cpFV8
Timeinpixels ➡ timeinpixels.com/2017/02/need...
__________________
Special Thanks:
El Zones System ➡ www.elzonesystem.com/
Filmmakers Academy ⬇️
• Standardizing Exposure...
__________________
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:06 - False Color Demonstration
1:25 - Problem 1
2:25 - Problem 2
4:00 - Problem 3
5:50 - Underexposed & Overexposed
6:50 - Solutions
7:28 - El Zones Explained
9:44 - Conclusion

[@allen_bernardo_jr]

I think different cameras clip at different IRE levels too (like the S5II clips at 93 or 95 or something supposedly) 😩 I don't really use false color anyway though I'm a noob that uses zebras 🤷🏻‍♂ lol
Might be a dumb question but when you were comparing the footage false color in Resolve vs the pocket camera, when the Resolve's false color showed it "wasn't" clipping, was the footage itself actually clipped though where you couldn't recover the highlights/shadows? Because that'd be even worse if not only does the software show a different calibration but that it could be saying something isn't clipped when it really is 🤦🏻‍♂

[@berkano_plays]

Sigma has EL Zones built into their fp range with the latest firmware... But one annoying thing is that you have to hold the button to keep it showing...

[@adamblair-smith3063]

Pretty sure the reason for missmatched false color between davinci resolve and the camera is because the cameras false color is uncompressed and unprocessed... in other words its not reading from a recording, but instead a live view of the image. More specifically, differences in the false color then are probably because the detail was already "lost" during the recording and isnt going to be "lost" again. When something is clipped or crushed in digital imaging, the camera typically still knows the luminance(voltage) of the missing information. For instance, something that is being measured at -3 IRE by the camera will be discarded and become 0 IRE. Likewise, something 113 IRE will become 100 IRE. Also, the false color in davinci resolve is probably meant to tell colorists how their color grade is affecting the image, not nessesarily the detail gained/lost during recording, so it makes sense that it would get slightly different results. This is, to my understanding, how this works, although keep in mind I'm not a camera manufacturer or designer so these are simply my best guesses.

[@KevinTalksFilmmaking]

Thank you for this explanation! Them being meant for two different purposes makes sense but why am I able to enter in the camera I used? It seems obvious that the two would match after that. Maybe there's a post from blackmagic that explains the discrepancy but it would be nice if one didn't have to try so hard to find this information. An explainer video from blackmagic would help clear up a lot of the confusion.

[@oo0RECON0oo]

Try setting the monitor to native as opposed to rec 709 etc.

[@why_though]

What is the big deal about getting it spot on in camera? The cameras you use have LOADS of left over dynamic range to make the minor adjustment in post with imperceptible impact on quality. And as for clipping, just go and check with the eyedropper tool and read the values in the "clipped" areas to see what the camera/monitor are considering to be clipped, and you will see which one is wrong.

[@KevinTalksFilmmaking]

It’s not really a “big” deal, it’s just that it’s annoying and tedious. The tools should be consistent and predictable.
I understand that you can do a lot in post and that’s good for some but others are going to want to achieve something specific.
Also, A lot of cinematographers will use their understanding of post production to get a shot. They aren’t just making it look good.
Say you want to overexpose an image by 2 stops so you can get a cleaner image in post. You wouldn’t be able to do that with just false color. You can use the noise reduction features in davinci but you can only push that tool so far.
As for using the eye dropper to figure out which is wrong, the problem is that neither one of them should be wrong. There should be a way to match the false colors.

[@kentreyes7379]

Can you say "howdy partner" on your next video

[@timwhitingii]

I have been so frustrated with FC in camera not matching up in Resolve. I am hoping 19 updates it.

[@KevinTalksFilmmaking]

That would be nice!

[@blanche027]

Ran into the same issue. Not sure why Blackmagic has not addressed the issue. Cinema camera 6k doesnt even show up in the false color selection.

[@KevinTalksFilmmaking]

I noticed that as well. Seems odd considering it's one of their most popular cameras.