Intake setup on Craftsman is different from what I have seen on other Zenoah g3800 clones. My Iskra GC401 has the same rubber boot setup like Ryobi but with nylon filter. Alpina C41 has a plastic block, but not like that in Craftsman. Impulse line is at the top right corner of the flange. About the clutch - crankshaft diameter is smaller than on the 45,52,58cc saws, so the clutch and drums are not interchangeable, but I have found .325" versions of the drum if I want to switch to a bigger chain from 3/8 lp. Just found some Craftsman schematics and pictures of the S180 model on Ebay - is this a closed port cylinder with transfer caps on the S1600 model also? Can't wait to see you to dig deeper into this saw. Great content on your channel, Novice Lumberjack!
@@modarkthemauler I have the part number for Alpina C41 drum with .325", search for "alpina 118801063 drum". I ordered a different one, "QR38F PN3800 Villager", rim+sprocket. It comes with 3/8 sprocket, but I will try it with .325 sprocket also.
My cousin has a Ryobi 3714, an older Green one and I was actually a little impressed with it. Although the pull start handle broke and I found a crack in the cylinder, it still performs decently and is reliable. I would still recommend an old Stihl or Mac or Husky or Echo b4 buying a Home Depot saw but thats just me.
Nice! I’m looking forward to the Craftsman content. I can’t believe it’s not a clamshell. Maybe it might be worth your time, and maybe I’ll end up picking one up too. Lol!
Glad you went back and picked em up👍🏻 the craftsman does look exactly like my s145 under the plastics, other than it doesn't have removable transfer caps. Excited to see what your able to do with it! I've only done a base gasket delete and built mine a pipe so far but the improvement it showed was incredible vs those same mods I've done on other saws! They are definitely cheap Chinese clones. I just like to think, if they are sold under a well known brand, hopefully quality control is better than the no name clones sold online.
3714 is a nice Zenoah clone. I bought many bgreen referbs for $69 when tbey blew em out. Like all Zenoah non strato saws, they are split case with quad open ports. Minus base gasaket IIRC they time out around 105/125/75 and run very well with just port matching the exaust, cleaning up the transfers and gutting the cat muffler (Mine all had one). Ive been experimenting with how far i can go with porting and timing. i have other clones from Joncutter and others and these are the best. Cleaned jup as above, these run as well or better than any sub 40cc saw around. My truck saw runs 11k in the cut and 14.5k WOT w 1.5 turns on th H side sand very minimal porting. Prior to Ryobi selling these, they sold a proper Zenoah/redmax built saw.
I think the Ryobi might actually be a genuine Zenoah-built saw. I've seen other models of Ryobi pulled apart that had "Zenoah" cast into the cylinder. I also noted it had a Zama carb vs the Craftsman having a Chinese knockoff.
Something I noticed when you've shown us the intake is that ryobi has a zama while the craftman has a weird carb (couldn't read it). Another awesome vid, keep it up :-)
Sometime ago, I was watching a repair video on you tube, of a Ryobi chainsaw, and I noticed, to my surprise, that the case, or maybe the cylinder had Zenoah in the casting.
Hey Novice, What does the S stand for in Jonsered 2145 "s" ? I can`t find information about the S Also little information about the 2145. A wikipedia site for all the chainsaw would be king
Now Wal-Marks Black Max. I believe to be the same. If they are. They are decent saws. Get rid of the bulb, do a muffler mod, and delete the base gasket.
Do whatever you want to it even if returning it. If you bought from a big box store the saw is not likely to be put back on the shelf. It will be sent back to the distributor or to the box store's warehouse for liquidation.
How many folks buy a saw just to use one time to drop a tree on the neighbors garage? Maybe they pull it out 5 years later to drop limbs on the other neighbor's car.
I just bought the craftsman a couple of months ago 16” for $179 it’s my first saw so I didn’t want to get something nice because if I screw up I didn’t want to ruin a expensive one but so far I’ve cut 2+ cords with it and haven’t had any issues, so I figure I can beat the hell out of it then get a good one I just don’t know if I should go Husky or Stihl
Youch those are cheap! I've taken apart a new poulan, it was equally awful. Best buy saws I've ever experienced are used echos: CS 530 for $170. It's a much better saw than my CS 4910 and outcuts it too. Picked up a like-new CS 6700 for $225. 67 cc's of pro saw goodness. Less than half the price of what I paid for a cs 620, and it's definitely its definitely more powerful. 7 ccs more displacement.
Intake setup on Craftsman is different from what I have seen on other Zenoah g3800 clones. My Iskra GC401 has the same rubber boot setup like Ryobi but with nylon filter. Alpina C41 has a plastic block, but not like that in Craftsman. Impulse line is at the top right corner of the flange.
About the clutch - crankshaft diameter is smaller than on the 45,52,58cc saws, so the clutch and drums are not interchangeable, but I have found .325" versions of the drum if I want to switch to a bigger chain from 3/8 lp.
Just found some Craftsman schematics and pictures of the S180 model on Ebay - is this a closed port cylinder with transfer caps on the S1600 model also? Can't wait to see you to dig deeper into this saw. Great content on your channel, Novice Lumberjack!
Excellent information and a question. Boedy, I hope that you’re listening!
I’d bet that those are both “shell companies” of one sort or another. That’s something that I don’t recall ever being mentioned. Hmmm🤔
What's the product nr. for the .325 clutch. I've been eyeing these little saws but not being able to run .325 is what's kept me from buying so far.
@@modarkthemauler I have the part number for Alpina C41 drum with .325", search for "alpina 118801063 drum". I ordered a different one, "QR38F PN3800 Villager", rim+sprocket. It comes with 3/8 sprocket, but I will try it with .325 sprocket also.
My cousin has a Ryobi 3714, an older Green one and I was actually a little impressed with it. Although the pull start handle broke and I found a crack in the cylinder, it still performs decently and is reliable. I would still recommend an old Stihl or Mac or Husky or Echo b4 buying a Home Depot saw but thats just me.
Nice! I’m looking forward to the Craftsman content. I can’t believe it’s not a clamshell. Maybe it might be worth your time, and maybe I’ll end up picking one up too. Lol!
Glad you went back and picked em up👍🏻 the craftsman does look exactly like my s145 under the plastics, other than it doesn't have removable transfer caps. Excited to see what your able to do with it! I've only done a base gasket delete and built mine a pipe so far but the improvement it showed was incredible vs those same mods I've done on other saws!
They are definitely cheap Chinese clones. I just like to think, if they are sold under a well known brand, hopefully quality control is better than the no name clones sold online.
3714 is a nice Zenoah clone. I bought many bgreen referbs for $69 when tbey blew em out. Like all Zenoah non strato saws, they are split case with quad open ports. Minus base gasaket IIRC they time out around 105/125/75 and run very well with just port matching the exaust, cleaning up the transfers and gutting the cat muffler (Mine all had one). Ive been experimenting with how far i can go with porting and timing. i have other clones from Joncutter and others and these are the best. Cleaned jup as above, these run as well or better than any sub 40cc saw around. My truck saw runs 11k in the cut and 14.5k WOT w 1.5 turns on th H side sand very minimal porting. Prior to Ryobi selling these, they sold a proper Zenoah/redmax built saw.
Thank you, love your show and appreciate your views and opinions!
Interesting stuff. I like the Ryobi cause of the simplicity and the air cleaner.
I think the Ryobi might actually be a genuine Zenoah-built saw. I've seen other models of Ryobi pulled apart that had "Zenoah" cast into the cylinder. I also noted it had a Zama carb vs the Craftsman having a Chinese knockoff.
Something I noticed when you've shown us the intake is that ryobi has a zama while the craftman has a weird carb (couldn't read it). Another awesome vid, keep it up :-)
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Looks like RX-6246 carburetor.
did you ever ported one of these small 37cc chinese chainsaws?
Good review.
Sometime ago, I was watching a repair video on you tube, of a Ryobi chainsaw, and I noticed, to my surprise, that the case, or maybe the cylinder had Zenoah in the casting.
If you decide to port please give numbers and show work and got to give a cool name
Oh man I really thought that you would try that chainsaw on this video
How many cc 's on both
Hey Novice, What does the S stand for in Jonsered 2145 "s" ? I can`t find information about the S
Also little information about the 2145. A wikipedia site for all the chainsaw would be king
I knew they were the same but I wonder if it's like Poulan used to do i wonder if they are both 42cc I bet they are
Put the touch on it👍👍
I have both it seems to me the ryobi is lighter maybe it’s me . But like you I love the red saw looks better built
This is definitely gonna Bea interesting saw to tear into 🤔
@novicelumberjack duuude… you buy these things when weve been asking you for a 3510 for over a year! 3510 next and show us what it can do!
Now Wal-Marks Black Max. I believe to be the same. If they are. They are decent saws. Get rid of the bulb, do a muffler mod, and delete the base gasket.
Black max I'd imagine is the same as the ryobi, since TTI is the parent company of both.
Do whatever you want to it even if returning it. If you bought from a big box store the saw is not likely to be put back on the shelf. It will be sent back to the distributor or to the box store's warehouse for liquidation.
Smaller consumer saws would get more views because not everyone is buying a$500 plus saw or repairing old ones lol but I do
How many folks buy a saw just to use one time to drop a tree on the neighbors garage? Maybe they pull it out 5 years later to drop limbs on the other neighbor's car.
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You would think these saws must be some what reliable and run okay for companies to put their name on them and sell them. They sure look the part.
I just bought the craftsman a couple of months ago 16” for $179 it’s my first saw so I didn’t want to get something nice because if I screw up I didn’t want to ruin a expensive one but so far I’ve cut 2+ cords with it and haven’t had any issues, so I figure I can beat the hell out of it then get a good one I just don’t know if I should go Husky or Stihl
@@stevepatch1809 Makes sence Steve and then you will also have a better idea of what type and size of saw you want to buy.
16:21 That's what I'm talkin' a BOOT🥾 #DasBoot
Are you sure the ryobi is not 42cc
U could use that thing for a year and the depot will take it back no question. They cray like that
My sun has one ran model said china harsqavarna made mine newly bought mexico mtd made both saw good
Is tectonics an import company
No they own milwaukee, ryobi,hart and licensed to manufacture rigid. They are a big corporation.
Not sure? I know they are the parent company of Milwaukee tools, ridgid, ryobi, hart and many other brands.
@@1988MowerMan 😅 beat me to it!
@@aaronpowell4885 🤣
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From my view, the Ryobi looks like it's been ran by looking at the muffler
@@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws I agree, it looks like it has had some heat going through it.
@@AndyH-13 👍🆙AH
Youch those are cheap! I've taken apart a new poulan, it was equally awful.
Best buy saws I've ever experienced are used echos:
CS 530 for $170. It's a much better saw than my CS 4910 and outcuts it too.
Picked up a like-new CS 6700 for $225. 67 cc's of pro saw goodness. Less than half the price of what I paid for a cs 620, and it's definitely its definitely more powerful. 7 ccs more displacement.
The craftsman isnt awful? Did you watch the review? Mine outlasted a stihl 250
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Keep the ryobi return the crapsman
Please hurry and review the craftsman!