It was a bad idea to have her opening up for Rod Wave. Two completely different vibes but I see Joe's point. Her & Jasmine Sullivan going on tour together would be craaaaaazy tho!
She may have a valid point, but it's not for the public to hear. When Prince opened a for The Rolling Stones, he got booed. I guarantee you not one of those people who showed up to that concert will admit to that now.
Wow! Well maybe she should do more tours like this and use that to her advantage to strengthen her versatility. Some were saying that the crowd was really young, well I remember listening to music like hers when I was super young, so its not impossible for her to succeed after awhile if she keeps trying and not crying about it.
If she didnt feel comfortable in front of ROD WAVE'S CROWD, then she should not have continued with the tour. She sounds completely ungrateful for the opportunity he gave her. To be out here complaining like she is, who does she think will ever call her again to be an opening act for them.
I don’t think she was forced. I think the money made sense and she did it. But realized it was too much for her. But all this victim sympathetic stuff is weak.
I don't understand how they don't understand that there is a such thing as "your audience"... people who are coming to see a Rod Wave are not coming for an Ari Lennox. OJ the juice man talked about this when he opened up for Wu Tang and got bood.... wasn't his audience
Then don’t go on tour. Joe saying you have a choice. Navigating the industry is part of the game. She isn’t the first to deal with this. So to go on social media, hit a button and cry about it is weak.
@@Buk718 Ain't nun wrong with a person expressing their frustration, we're human. Ari Lennox been in the industry for a minute and has never had this issue so it's natural that she's going to feel thrown off by it.
I hate how it so often seems like all the men on this show act like because they’re men they can’t relate to anything a woman has to say. We’re different… but more the same than different. At some point they need to realize they’re just stereotypically closed minded.
*Ari opening herself up to a wider fanbase is one thing but those people attacking her when they were well aware of her being presence months in advance is another.*
Joe wasn’t there. If he went to one of them shows he would understand. The crowd was in the 14-24 age range. Ari makes grown R&B music. It didn’t matter how great a performance she put on the crowd will understand her music with age. They’ll regret it eventually but right now nah.
@@thecollective6606 Thank You, thought I was bugging on how this was allowed to happen. Seems the cheque was too good to turn down, but these are the issues that may arise from that cheque.
Ari is super talented and I’m a fan of her music, but at some point she has to take accountability for her own choices. Her complaining about some aspect of performance is becoming consistent theme in her career.
Joe is too passive in this in my honest opinion. It’s gotta make sense for the tour and it didn’t. Also a bottle was thrown at her. The music content between the two aren’t fitting. I feel like her manager and cole green lit the situation. Because cole did the KOD tour w/thug on the lineup. But that made sense with cole’s content and moral of the album. But that’s just me
What is sooooo damn hard to understand about it being your audience or not? If Marilyn Manson was brought on to open for Rod, would this convo be the same? Sometimes I swear the dudes on this couch really are in the damn StoneAge. Can’t understand simple situation or facts outside of their realm of desire to understand.
Ari can share how she feels on her platform about her tour...not going the way she expected....about being assalted on her tour etc. Also these men overtalk and make side comments EVERY TIME MEL SPEAKS. So for Joe to try & shut her down when she chimes in is CRAZY. Ari was under contract she couldnt just quit. Lastly Joe has way too much energy for this story.
The point is she was paid to do a job that would at the same time benefit her growth as an artist and because she couldn’t handle the pressure she quit
@@jobchristj Or....she took the risk and it didn't go like she envisioned it. Either way though....she can talk about it & how it effected her on her platform....like she was doing....minding her own business.
@cmunnerl when you take a risk you understand it might not go the way you want. That's what makes it a risk. Joe and Co. are right to cut Mel off. She's annoying.
I love Ari but it should’ve never been her on Rods tour. Someone like Mariah the Scientist, Summer Walker. I disagree with you guys attacking her for sharing her hurt though. No one deserves to be assaulted on stage.
Its her choice to take that opportunity or not. Nobody forcing you to do the show say no to the tour. Its not about understanding its about stfu and grind your opportunity comes how it comes take it or don't. Don't benefit from something then complain later thats weak
I notice Joe is careful with how he speaks on Drake and Cardi B but yall got all this energy for Ari Lennox who has actual talent. Cardi B is one of the TRASH artists in the mainstream. Drake can't even take you saying anything other than being a fan of his music. Didn't he complain about that diss track from another rapper ? It's okay for certain artists to be weak but Ari can't complain about her experience?
Foh...men artist's have talked about getting shit thrown at them...yall all support, they throw shit at women artist's an now all of a sudden they don't know where she coming from....😑
The comments are wild. lmao. I don't see how y'all don't get the point. Whether it was her audience or not it's still an opportunity for her as the artists that's not selling out arenas yet. I think some of y'all comment before watching the entire video lmao they literally said being an opening act for anybody is tough. If you're an opening act, the crowd literally is not there to see you whether it's the exact same audience/vibe or not lol.
A very good amount of Rod’s music is sad and depressing low key. People come for that energy. Darkness can’t exist in the light. It’s coo just wasn’t her vibe, chalk it up and move on.
A well rounded tour lineup will make or break every stop on that tour, just having a few names together won’t always make a great show. You need bands that actually enjoy each others music singers that are actually friendly at least….the last thing I want to hear is an opening group/artist get preachy or long winded. Ttytt I don’t give a shit what the headliners have to say. Play the songs
They booed Drake at Flog Gnaw and he is one of the biggest acts out. She should be used to stuff like this at her point in her career. But to me it seems like she wanted to vent and did it on a public platform instead of with friends.
She was too talented for that tour and the crowd. Being in the audience on that tour compared to being at her own shows really pissed me off. Even the crowd didn’t recognize her talent but they LOVED that other depressing bs smdh. Y’all men are disgustingly insensitive on this podcast. There is no reason why someone should have thrown a whole bottle at her during her set!
As a woman who has endured the crassness of the video girl era, Melyssa should have spoken up more. She just sat there as if she was in agreement. It should never be ok to throw bottles on stage at artists and it’s within Ari’s right to complain about how she was treated on the tour. Her management team dropped the ball though because Rod Wave’s crowd is a bunch depressed, dark azz folks. They could never appreciate the musical experience that Ari gives. Never!
Ari I was in the LA building you definitely was out of place, we were trynna rush you off the stage too, our bathroom break was done, we grabbed our drinks and got food, and then...BOW water bottle.
@@ItzLITTY89 she was singing and it was hella quiet and then she towards her last song the mainstream one and some girl threw a water bottle at her and she let the hood come out lol saying she can fight and all types shit
@@ItzLITTY89 yeah most definitely, it was just a odd placement G, the first to opening acts had turnt up music and then you bring her out, it was out of place then you have another turnt up artist then Rod Wave
Ari Lennox doesn’t have a song depressing enough for Rod Wave’s crowd
I don’t find his music depressing. I’ve been to rod wave concerts and nothing was depressing about it. 🤷🏽♀️
I’m glad someone said it!
@@rubyjaezhis music is definitely depressing listen to dem lyrics
@@301dell4 i did and i disagree. 🤷🏽♀️
It was a bad idea to have her opening up for Rod Wave. Two completely different vibes but I see Joe's point. Her & Jasmine Sullivan going on tour together would be craaaaaazy tho!
Issues with that is does her Label think that is a good investment if not start doing a underground thing until the momentum picks up
She may have a valid point, but it's not for the public to hear. When Prince opened a for The Rolling Stones, he got booed. I guarantee you not one of those people who showed up to that concert will admit to that now.
Wow! Well maybe she should do more tours like this and use that to her advantage to strengthen her versatility. Some were saying that the crowd was really young, well I remember listening to music like hers when I was super young, so its not impossible for her to succeed after awhile if she keeps trying and not crying about it.
First off they didn’t listen to the whole live, she paid respects for that opportunity; secondly she answered a fans question.
Ari is too much of an artistic soul to be on tour with Rod Wave, who tf thought that would work
EXACTLY.
That’s her teams fault they should’ve atleast put her on a few tracks with him to make it easier
Ari Lennox is extremely talented, she was put on a stage for a crowd that didn't appreciate her talent or style. She needs a new manager.
I don’t understand why Rod Wave didn’t say something to the audience about how they are treating her?
If she didnt feel comfortable in front of ROD WAVE'S CROWD, then she should not have continued with the tour. She sounds completely ungrateful for the opportunity he gave her. To be out here complaining like she is, who does she think will ever call her again to be an opening act for them.
I don’t think she was forced. I think the money made sense and she did it. But realized it was too much for her. But all this victim sympathetic stuff is weak.
@@kamBX contracts.
She’ll be aight. She paid her bills
But she finished the tour. She DID tough it out.
She just said she didn’t have fun doing it.
Joe always finds a way to mention SOB’s 😂
Blowing cigarette smoke through the tunnel 😂
You noticed as well.
I thought he was talking abt the rap group tbh because they toured but only did small ass venues
@@Kinghulio2333can’t nobody get their wings!
I don't understand how they don't understand that there is a such thing as "your audience"... people who are coming to see a Rod Wave are not coming for an Ari Lennox. OJ the juice man talked about this when he opened up for Wu Tang and got bood.... wasn't his audience
Then don’t go on tour. Joe saying you have a choice. Navigating the industry is part of the game. She isn’t the first to deal with this. So to go on social media, hit a button and cry about it is weak.
If missing the point was a user
@@Buk718 Ain't nun wrong with a person expressing their frustration, we're human. Ari Lennox been in the industry for a minute and has never had this issue so it's natural that she's going to feel thrown off by it.
I hate how it so often seems like all the men on this show act like because they’re men they can’t relate to anything a woman has to say. We’re different… but more the same than different. At some point they need to realize they’re just stereotypically closed minded.
They literally related it to themselves in this clip. I’m confused
If they're stereotypically close minded then why would you expect them to relate? lol (even though they do)
I aint going to rod wave concert have no interest in his music but i flew to another state to see ari. Shes grown and makes grown folks music
somebody threw a bottle at her head lmfao she can complain no way Joe is letting that happen to him
*Ari opening herself up to a wider fanbase is one thing but those people attacking her when they were well aware of her being presence months in advance is another.*
Joe wasn’t there. If he went to one of them shows he would understand. The crowd was in the 14-24 age range. Ari makes grown R&B music. It didn’t matter how great a performance she put on the crowd will understand her music with age. They’ll regret it eventually but right now nah.
So who’s job is it for AL to know what the demo is for shows she about to do? Someone in her camp ain’t doing their job.
@@drizzyfrecklesit’s her and her teams job. She shouldn’t have taken the gig 🤷🏾♂️
@@thecollective6606 Thank You, thought I was bugging on how this was allowed to happen. Seems the cheque was too good to turn down, but these are the issues that may arise from that cheque.
Them talking about “don’t affirm me” proves her point. But Ari was right. That definitely wasn’t her crowd. Sucks to be them because Ari is amazing.
But everytime we hear her speak publicly its usually a gripe about something. She got hella negative energy.
She performs well sometimes.Also just a super downer
@@willellis502 she's def the girl you stay away from because when she is around everything bothers her.
I am assuming you didn't see her on that tour, let me tell you her point is not proven, do not talk to us when it is quiet and you getting booed
@@rrosen85 I saw some clips. But her point was proven with how they chose to start the commentary in this video.
Ari is super talented and I’m a fan of her music, but at some point she has to take accountability for her own choices. Her complaining about some aspect of performance is becoming consistent theme in her career.
Joe is too passive in this in my honest opinion. It’s gotta make sense for the tour and it didn’t. Also a bottle was thrown at her. The music content between the two aren’t fitting. I feel like her manager and cole green lit the situation. Because cole did the KOD tour w/thug on the lineup. But that made sense with cole’s content and moral of the album. But that’s just me
THIS!! People stay wanting to put shit together but don't understand that it didn't make sense the begin with. POOR management/team choice.
What is sooooo damn hard to understand about it being your audience or not? If Marilyn Manson was brought on to open for Rod, would this convo be the same? Sometimes I swear the dudes on this couch really are in the damn StoneAge. Can’t understand simple situation or facts outside of their realm of desire to understand.
They follow Joe’s lead. He hates dark skin women and he show it every time. And Ari was asked about the tour and gave her experience.
His current girl is the same complexion as Ari. That’s not the reason he takes that stance.
Marilyn Manson is lit he wouldn’t have this problem
@@J4M2L lmao
Ima have to agree with Joe
So this is why Ari went off on Joe the other day lol
You can smell the pettiness from this upload 😂 2024 yall
“She went back out there with a football helmet on” 😂😂😂😂
Ari can share how she feels on her platform about her tour...not going the way she expected....about being assalted on her tour etc. Also these men overtalk and make side comments EVERY TIME MEL SPEAKS. So for Joe to try & shut her down when she chimes in is CRAZY. Ari was under contract she couldnt just quit. Lastly Joe has way too much energy for this story.
The point is she was paid to do a job that would at the same time benefit her growth as an artist and because she couldn’t handle the pressure she quit
@@jobchristj Or....she took the risk and it didn't go like she envisioned it. Either way though....she can talk about it & how it effected her on her platform....like she was doing....minding her own business.
@@cmunnerlwell when she does it , it’s public now so anyone can have an opinion on it.
@@rickflairdrip4074 True....and opinions of opinions. Imo Joe is doing way too much. 🤷🏽♀️
@cmunnerl when you take a risk you understand it might not go the way you want.
That's what makes it a risk.
Joe and Co. are right to cut Mel off. She's annoying.
Joe Budden is absolutely right.
It wasn’t her audience bad manger
How do you expect to grow your fanbase if you stick to a smaller audience?
Question is her audience putting money behind the love?
I love Ari but it should’ve never been her on Rods tour. Someone like Mariah the Scientist, Summer Walker. I disagree with you guys attacking her for sharing her hurt though. No one deserves to be assaulted on stage.
Joe didn’t even go this hard on Drake who basically ethered him on SM. Why you doing so hard on this young lady????
Shut up an go cry in your phone camera 😂
flip audio is out of sync 🚨🚨🚨
she needs to talk to vince staples about how to open for people that are not there for him.
Fr!! Talk that shit Joe!! That’s real af
Its her choice to take that opportunity or not. Nobody forcing you to do the show say no to the tour. Its not about understanding its about stfu and grind your opportunity comes how it comes take it or don't. Don't benefit from something then complain later thats weak
That's what vince staples (he performed orange soda) did for me at a j cole concert 4:19
FIRST-OF-ALL SHE BEEN SAYING THAT SHE WANTS TO GET AWAY FROM J. COLE AND DREAMVILLE. ALWAYZ SOMETHING WITH THIS BEAUTIFUL SONGTRESS.
Ngl….. Joe is correct on this
Ari puts on a dope show. When she is on stage she gives it all but the crowd aint with it at all. The fanbases dont match.
Open up for Red Hot Chili Peppers. How Sway, HOW!? 🤣
THAT'S NOWHERE NNNEAARRR HER CROWD like HUH⁉️😅
If she thought the Rod Wave crowd was ruff. 🤣🤣🤣
I notice Joe is careful with how he speaks on Drake and Cardi B but yall got all this energy for Ari Lennox who has actual talent. Cardi B is one of the TRASH artists in the mainstream. Drake can't even take you saying anything other than being a fan of his music. Didn't he complain about that diss track from another rapper ? It's okay for certain artists to be weak but Ari can't complain about her experience?
Careful how he speaks on Drake? 🤣 did you forget all those diss tracks he made for him?
@@reythomas9215exactly, wtf is she talking about 😂😂 Joe got dragged for going at Drake just a few months ago. As well as NBA Youngboy in December 😂
Foh...men artist's have talked about getting shit thrown at them...yall all support, they throw shit at women artist's an now all of a sudden they don't know where she coming from....😑
I was at that LA show where someone threw the bottle it was a bad energy.
😂 excuses excuses your an entertainer do your job and entertain no matter what the crowd is making excuses is the new wave 🌊 I felt the energy smh
My god it’s your job as an artist to win over the fans by ENTERTAINING them. This is 2024 talk. So weird and ridiculous
The comments are wild. lmao. I don't see how y'all don't get the point. Whether it was her audience or not it's still an opportunity for her as the artists that's not selling out arenas yet. I think some of y'all comment before watching the entire video lmao they literally said being an opening act for anybody is tough. If you're an opening act, the crowd literally is not there to see you whether it's the exact same audience/vibe or not lol.
Bills have to get paid all ima say
Red Hot Chili Peppers????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@3:16......Joe. ....u a grown ass man.....u say "OR NAAA" is fuckin weird
I spent $500 for my kid to go to the ATL. They were last minute nosebleeds. Homegirl got her money!
Joe sounds like Ras "My sympathy don't never come too cheap Pity parties like surprise parties, always woah!-it's-me/woe-is-me"🤣
Rod wave fans r not ari Lennox fans that's like trump giving a speech to Biden or Obama supporters
I took my baby to see Rod Wave and I enjoyed her part. But i didn’t understand why she was there because it’s nothing but a bunch of kids there.
Insensitive.
Entitled
A very good amount of Rod’s music is sad and depressing low key. People come for that energy. Darkness can’t exist in the light. It’s coo just wasn’t her vibe, chalk it up and move on.
Joe burden is right without social media do you know what other artist when through to heard?
A well rounded tour lineup will make or break every stop on that tour, just having a few names together won’t always make a great show. You need bands that actually enjoy each others music singers that are actually friendly at least….the last thing I want to hear is an opening group/artist get preachy or long winded. Ttytt I don’t give a shit what the headliners have to say. Play the songs
I mean….🤨I’m with Joe on this one
Bruh the rod wave tour was fire. I enjoy her music but she definitely got a bag
It’s wild, cuz I feel like if Rod Wave would’ve opened for Ari, he wouldn’t have struggled like she did.
They booed Drake at Flog Gnaw and he is one of the biggest acts out. She should be used to stuff like this at her point in her career. But to me it seems like she wanted to vent and did it on a public platform instead of with friends.
That’s wild, I didn’t think it was a good tour mixture either. I loved her performance tho! 💪🏽🔥
I love Ari… can’t name a rod wave song
Why Joe have on those shades tho?
Them tight shits need to go 😂😂😂
I love Rod Wave and Ari so idk
The victims is up 😂
Y’all clipped this today to be funny huh? Lmfao
ARI NEEDS TO SIGN WITH TDE
Ok Im late to the party.....what the hell does affirm mean..?
She was too talented for that tour and the crowd. Being in the audience on that tour compared to being at her own shows really pissed me off. Even the crowd didn’t recognize her talent but they LOVED that other depressing bs smdh. Y’all men are disgustingly insensitive on this podcast. There is no reason why someone should have thrown a whole bottle at her during her set!
Get the check and 🛑 whining 🤦♂️ 1:35
Rod waves crowd is def not her crowd💯😭
They should stop touring with women but I guess that’s up to the label they sign too
Who the fuck says affirm
😂
People who found out they were black at 23 years old
😂
Rod Wave is the tour! And you mad???? Red Hot Chili Peppers????? What is going on with these people
Wat crowd does she have😂
The October London lucky daye Cleo sol etc type crowd🤷🏿♂️
No if Rod gets her off the tour she gonna play Joe like they all do his approach always has them but her cuz he’s an asswhole but he don’t be wrong
As a woman who has endured the crassness of the video girl era, Melyssa should have spoken up more. She just sat there as if she was in agreement. It should never be ok to throw bottles on stage at artists and it’s within Ari’s right to complain about how she was treated on the tour. Her management team dropped the ball though because Rod Wave’s crowd is a bunch depressed, dark azz folks. They could never appreciate the musical experience that Ari gives. Never!
They would’ve attacked her. They give the illusion that they respect her female opinion.
2024 The Reckoning
New school don’t like working.. that’s really what this is.. any excuse to avoid doing the work.
I don’t know what Joe be talking about he’s hard to follow sometimes
Dopey chat
She doesn’t make enough music.
Maybe she should retire like Joe did then complain about contracts not considered for
Ari I was in the LA building you definitely was out of place, we were trynna rush you off the stage too, our bathroom break was done, we grabbed our drinks and got food, and then...BOW water bottle.
What happened at the show?
@@ItzLITTY89 she was singing and it was hella quiet and then she towards her last song the mainstream one and some girl threw a water bottle at her and she let the hood come out lol saying she can fight and all types shit
@@rrosen85 that’s crazy! People getting disrespectful at these concerts smh
@@ItzLITTY89 yeah most definitely, it was just a odd placement G, the first to opening acts had turnt up music and then you bring her out, it was out of place then you have another turnt up artist then Rod Wave
That’s not funny! Very disrespectful and I’m tired of people thinking it’s okay to be disrespectful to women
🤨
i cannot stand parks he gets on my last nerves
Why lol?
I here what joe is saying but DOG!! some ppl are OK with their core fan base and dont really need nor want to appeal to another one.
with 2+mil fans do you really need to advance?
First
THE NEGATIVE ENERGY IS HER!!!!! MISERY LOVES COMPANY AND SHES ALWAYS NEEDING THE COMPANY
DMV artists always sensitive
Rod Wave is mid.
Couldn't name you one song lol
Always complaining....the logic is, since they dont like you, something is wrong with them.
Just play the slaps already… lol