3:25 Astrea killed that bird to end its suffering. It was on creep, already infested and being assimilated into Swarm. There was only eternal servitude and suffering waiting for it. What that Adept did was grace not toxicity.
Don't underestimate 1998 multiplayer. In '98 I was in my college dorm playing Doom, Warcraft, and Command and Conquer on the University LAN 4 nights a week and having a great time. When StarCraft came out it was huge! People played the campaign to learn how the units worked, then jumped into MP.
For your point about spellcasters, Lowko. Most of the time they're made so much because they have one or maybe two spells (looking at you Ghosts) that aren't just really good but also spammable. - EMP - snipe - abduct - feedback - fungal - neural parasite - disruptor shots I don't count spells like Psi storm however because that spell's damage can't stack. You can cast storms that overlap but the overlap will never produce more damage than a single normal storm. So the only benefit behind casting more storms is more surface area. But these other spells can be used repeatedly on the same target(s) to good effect. I do count the fungal because it has a move speed reduction that can really be capitalized on.
You should really put together that video about the most iconic units in SC and which of those you would hope for in a new SC. If you feel informed enough, I'd really enjoy a overview over the most iconic, best design or mechanically most interesting units in rts overall (probably start with WC3).
my vote for sc2 unit: MULE. not only because the unit itself is iconic (which it definitely is), but because the tradeoff with scanning adds incredible strategic depth of play
I don't think you can fault him for the Overseer since in SC1 the overlords come out with detection ability so he's really only making it what it actually is in the previous game rendition
@LowkoTV I think you're also missing the thing with spellcasters that in Broodwar you had to use them 1 at a time or your group would use the spell on the same spot/target where in SC2 you can have a whole group and it will only cast 1 at a time so you can just sort of spam it across multiple spots/targets without the drag out of click-cast-click-cast so SC2 made spellcasters way more viable and user friendly which is probably why we see them more and their abilities in higher variety than in SC1. SC1 = psi storm/maelstrom/dark swarm/plague/yamato and that's all you rarely see the others, SC2 you see pretty well everything all the time because of the user friendly way they did it.
This match was casted by winter weeks ago but i appreciate you cast this as well because winter did not fully show the opening. He started like past 2 minutes.
Vipers are also like “half a defiler”, but that can fly… the other half being the infestor. But neural parasite is a boon, as only dark archons could control other faction’s units… I miss the queen’s parasite ability, though. That, pretty much gave Zerg the vision from the infected unit, kinda like a permanent changeling! Overseers should have this skill… It’s a mechanic I miss a lot and that was great and entertaining.
14:00 "You know what would make this composition better?" Reavers. Give that man some Space-artillery. Only real way to deal with the Tyrrani-I-mean-Zerg.
SC definitely has those "iconic" units, but I'd argue the same thing for Warcraft 3, if we're looking at iconic units in RTS games in general. Peasant, Peon, Grunt, Dryad, Necromancer, Mortar Team... The list can go on and on, not to mention all the heroes. But that would be a fun video idea, looking at iconic units in SC, would definitely watch that.
Totally thought this video was just going to be lowko playing some entertaining challenge on the ladder or something. Didn't realize it was a pro versus
Dragoons had their own FMV in SC1, that makes them pretty iconic. Stalkers seem to have more utility due to blink, but dragoons were tanks. DTs are pretty iconic, but their utility is limited with all the detectors and their high costs.
"A plural of archons...nice" I mean, everytime I hear you make a minor English mistake, Lowko; I always think that you were almost right and didn't know it. A "plurality" of archons was actually what I heard in my head until you pointed it out and that actually would have been correct. I don't think many of us actually care about you mispeaking. Keep up the awesome vids man! Love ya!
Many interesting points made during this video! If we're talking iconic units, I think you can't go wrong with the Hydralisk, really. Remember that cinematic where Fenix dies? For the first time, anyway, before being reborn as a Dragoon. Or that Zerg mission where you're given 5 red Hydras called Hunter Killers, I think? Hell, there was even an Easter egg in WC3 in one of the Night Elf missions where you could find a Hydralisk and wreak havoc with it. In any case, the point you made about the Hydras being able to be researched at Hatchery tech level... that would make things interesting. This is just an impression of mine, but it seems like Zerg opponents aren't very used to a highly-mobile AA unit whose DPS is not to be underestimated. Case in point, in this video, that prism drop in the main base would've been perfectly safe against Queens. I'd be all for it if they shook things up a little bit. I guess the point I want to make is, nobody sees zerglings as just baby banelings, right? Because they are terrifying on their own, especially when fully upgraded. I want Hydralisks to be like that too.
So you want to buff zerg? That sounds like a great idea. Who wants anyone else to win ever again? The hydra has the second highest dps behind only stimmed marines. If you make it be less of a glass cannon you need to make it more expensive or make something else worse. Like roaches or ravagers
@@Wwillswords No need to get mad, I'm not proposing Zerg to be completely overpowered, I just want the Hydras to be a more viable option than they are today, where they are just seen as baby lurkers. Let me try to explain. Of course, as you say, hydras are glass cannons today, and there is plenty of counterplay against them, is there not? Any kind of AoE completely negates them, we've seen in this game what some High Templar with Storm can do. Or some disruptors. Or trying to push into a line of siege tanks, or a planetary fortress. Even in ZvZ you have the Vipers with that cloud that reduces their range to basically nothing. I am _fine_ with that. As I said in my original comment, I just want them to have a more prominent role, for them to be a little bit more viable. So, how do we do that? One option is the one Lowko talked about in this video: by being able to create them at a lower tech level, they would appear on the battlefield way earlier. Would that be overpowered? I don't know, that's why I'm just a random someone commenting on a TH-cam video, and not someone working for the Blizzard balance department. In any case, following your comparison with marines, Hydras without both their upgrades are... definitely sub-par. And keep in mind that it would still require you to go to a higher tech level to get them. I think that would be an interesting thing to test, even if it never leaves the realm of PTS. The other option would be to make them less of a glass cannon. At the moment they are categorized as Light units, and that's one thing that could change. By making them neither light not armored (just as queens, or banelings are), they would be able to tank a little bit more damage than they are right now, thus maybe reclaiming a bit of their ranged DPS role from roaches & ravagers. This way you wouldn't need to change anything regarding tech level, and they would still come into the battlefield relatively late. To summarize this long-ass comment, I just want the Hydras to have a bit more protagonism in the Zerg forces. I would be fine if that meant that some effectiveness was taken from other units, but, at the end of the day, I'm just someone else just watching Lowko's videos. Nothing more, nothing less.
0:01 that logo on DRG's hatchery is called 'Jinro toad' which is the mascot of korean Soju(alcohol spirits) company. And it looks like the toad's face is changed into sOs face?
If they ever do make a SC3 I really hope they bring back Scourge. When mixed with Zerglings they were my bread and butter in Brood Wars. A swarm on the ground and a swarm in the air, supported by Mutas and Hydras. I also had a few Defilers in the mix to make it hard to kill the Zerglings.
Ahh yes! Time for another great Lowko video in the morning. Also, this may sound weird but I’m as weirded out about it as you… you were in my dream when I was at the store 😂
Units I want to see in SC3: 1p. Zealot 2p. Both Templars, both archons, maybe 3 different archons. 3p. oracle/void ray hybrid. Air beam unit. 4p. Carrier 5p. Reaver and/or colossus. Reaver shots should be free, but have charges. 6p. Photon Cannon 1z. Zergling 2z. Hydralisk 3z. Overlord 4z. Lurker 5z. Ultralisk 6z. Mutalisk 7z. Banelings but a bit reworked. 1t. Marine 2t. Siege Tank 3t. Medivac (probably the most elegant SC2 unit design idea) 4t. BattleCruiser 5t. Nukes (and notice how I didn't name ghosts, I don't care who will cast nukes, it may be not ghosts) 6t. Vulture mines/widow mines hybrid. Terrans should be able to create minefields.
It's come up a few times, I would love to see you cast a professional game from back in 2010, it would be really interesting to see how far the games come.
With how radically different the broodwar queen is from the sc2 one, i feel like the sc2 version should count against the challenge. It's only the same unit name, but they're different in every other measurable way. The raven and the science vessel are more alike than the SC1 and SC2 queens. I think the overseer is forgivable because SC1 overlords were detectors, so having to spend resources to get back some of the SC1 functionality is fair
My least favorite unit from the Starcraft franchise is the Marine. It's just too cost-efficient, and the only way to deal with it is to out-range it and/or AoE it down. Zealots, Stalkers, Adepts, Immortals, Zerglings, Roaches, Hydras, Marauders, Thors, every single air unit; Marines will overpower every single unit that can't outrange them or AoE them down. They are an iconic unit from SC:BW, but I don't like their design. It looks like Stormgate won't have a Marine equivalent, which makes me glad.
the starcraft 3 video would be really cool to see. I would also like to see what units from the campaign or units you would just make up to put in starcraft 3 would look like.
23:35 overseer doesn’t count, like the queens, since overlords were detectors before. Overseer are just another nerf on the overlords! In my time 🫠 overlords not only had detection, but ventral sacs made ALL of them into “dropalords”. Just like dropship upgrades (or ANY unit upgrade, for that matter) enhances its units immediately and totally. It is WEIRD that Ventral Sacs, now, is an upgrade that unlocks a unit and through MORPHING none the least. That’s expensive (and unnecessary). There is no other case in which an unit is unlocked by and upgrade, instead of a building. Major nerf! And what it achieves? Making games with zerg drops a freaking rare exception… 😒
the lack of banelings really does show just how much units you can pump out constantly.... baneling are great but they are a 1 time unit, relatively expensive and take some time
@@Name-ru1kt zerglings are awful by themselves, aby aoe attack will kill them, they always need support But what zerglings are great for is harassment if mineral lines and building, so long as they are not fighting other units they are the fastest base destroyers Them being fast and cheap is another highlight, by themselves they can constantly harass different points in the map without having to wait for higher tier units or slower banelings
My fave part of SC1 was BALANCE. It was MUCH better balanced than SC2. I miss the cracklings - just PHENOMENAL - the crazy pace of their destruction. The SOUNDS too, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-, just so damn FAST! Hydras were 1 farm, and they should've kept it that way! You could TRULY mass in SC1 with Zerg. Defilers with plague and consume, just NASTY. So many options against Terran army balls!
i'll only disagree with you lowko on the whole 'game of spellcasters' in starcraft 2 cause i just came from the artosis channel where a zerg player made 12 brood queens, and i really feel psy storms in starcraft 1 were insane compared to 2, they are still really good in two but god they would destroy literally anything in sc1
Those quens are actually in sc2 and are a non playable unit used in campains and coop... there are 2 quens in sc2 and only one belongs to broodwar.@@Name-ru1kt
I dont know man... if it were between the Stalker and the Dragoon... its totally go with the Dragoon, sure they dont have blink but they were a bit tankier and hit hard as hell. Plus the lore behind Dragoons as well as their death sound is amazing! Honestly the ONE thing id REALLY like to see in SC2 or maybe even 3 is the return of the Scourge for zerg... flying baneling... oh shit, i just realized that both the BW Queen and Scourge ARE in SC2 but with their genetics spun as ground units rather than air units and with a different mutation tech path... Also i really prefer the Guardian over the Broodlord. The Broodlord idea is cool but the whole fact that they are practically useless if say going against Terran with tons of hellbats and thors... the fact that their ATTACK is killable before it can do damage is retarded imo. The Guardians were so much better filling the aerial siege role than Broodlords.
Another wonderful idea in my opinion would be bringing back the leviathan,because right now the insectoid race truly lacks a capital ship worth of that name.
There's also the medic, science vessel, wraith, vulture for terran, and corsair, dark archon, reaver, dropship, dragoon, arbiters and scout for protoss.
I wonder what PvP would be like if Blizzard limited the number of type of units one can build. What I mean is before the match starts the player will choose up to any 5 units (Drone/Probe/SCV not included in selection) and those 5 units will be the only thing that will show in Unit Training Buildings. As for Infestor controlled Drone/Probe/SCV they will grant the player the opposing teams selected units.
Blizzard in very few years built Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft universes. Each really had its own coherent universe with something different that we never saw before in a game ... Today games' universes are so blank and already seen that nothing is marking our minds and imaginary. Only indie game manage to nails this feeling of "'new" because they have the balls to throw it all. Today Blizzard is in that conservative state and doesnt want to commit into anything too new... Like every other multi millions dollar game corporation. Thats why the Marine, as simple as he is, will still be more remembered than the Viper
while i enjoy watching sc2 gameplay as far as actually playing it myself i just cant stand it compared to sc1 they tried to make it more "balanced" while taking all the fun out of it for me, for one the fact that you cant make infested marines anymore is just a wtf decision to me, dragoons were superior to stalkers imo just because they felt tankier and seemed to hit harder but as far as comparable stats go thats probably not the case, but atleast they can both attack air units the wraiths were amazing, replaced by a crappier version of them that can only target ground? wtf why hellbats only being able to be made by turning a hellion car into a hellbat? gtfo give me vultures and the OG hellbats back no more scourge for the zerg so theres that overlords dont come with detector without upgrading? come on so many good units just completely removed and so many more things i find wrong with their decision making when it came to the units of sc2 and i partly blame the Esport scene, as you said when the devs were first making the units they did so for fun factor but as we all know that blizzard is dead and its all about maximizing the esport scene now for longer survivability of the franchise but, again just my opinion, seems to knock out the casuals who just want to hop on and play and yeah sc1 is old as dirt, i had it for pc AND N64 its that damn old still love the cheese by alot of the pros tho, and ofc the commentary ;)
3:25 Astrea killed that bird to end its suffering. It was on creep, already infested and being assimilated into Swarm. There was only eternal servitude and suffering waiting for it. What that Adept did was grace not toxicity.
lore accurate protoss
looks at red drones "playing with the blue drones"
I replayed it 3 times just to make sure too XD
"Planting down another zerg nexus"... shame he didn't but one can wish 😂
Lol I didn't notice that till I saw this
Lol did the same rewind… methinks @Lowko had a bit too much light blue logo on the brain.
dude, if i spent 10 years casting in spanish, i'd probably still stumble over rojo, azul, amarillo, naranja, and verde at least once per cast
Don't underestimate 1998 multiplayer.
In '98 I was in my college dorm playing Doom, Warcraft, and Command and Conquer on the University LAN 4 nights a week and having a great time. When StarCraft came out it was huge!
People played the campaign to learn how the units worked, then jumped into MP.
I had StarCraft around 2000 before internet access... (I'm from Hungary.)
34:59 That lurker on the left jumped ! It's so cute ! Like he jumped into a little pool of water behind the map to escape the war
death is the only escape~
For your point about spellcasters, Lowko.
Most of the time they're made so much because they have one or maybe two spells (looking at you Ghosts) that aren't just really good but also spammable.
- EMP
- snipe
- abduct
- feedback
- fungal
- neural parasite
- disruptor shots
I don't count spells like Psi storm however because that spell's damage can't stack. You can cast storms that overlap but the overlap will never produce more damage than a single normal storm. So the only benefit behind casting more storms is more surface area.
But these other spells can be used repeatedly on the same target(s) to good effect.
I do count the fungal because it has a move speed reduction that can really be capitalized on.
You should really put together that video about the most iconic units in SC and which of those you would hope for in a new SC. If you feel informed enough, I'd really enjoy a overview over the most iconic, best design or mechanically most interesting units in rts overall (probably start with WC3).
my vote for sc2 unit: MULE. not only because the unit itself is iconic (which it definitely is), but because the tradeoff with scanning adds incredible strategic depth of play
I don't think you can fault him for the Overseer since in SC1 the overlords come out with detection ability so he's really only making it what it actually is in the previous game rendition
love the idea of a list of ideal sc3 units. def a video I'd watch
@LowkoTV I think you're also missing the thing with spellcasters that in Broodwar you had to use them 1 at a time or your group would use the spell on the same spot/target where in SC2 you can have a whole group and it will only cast 1 at a time so you can just sort of spam it across multiple spots/targets without the drag out of click-cast-click-cast so SC2 made spellcasters way more viable and user friendly which is probably why we see them more and their abilities in higher variety than in SC1. SC1 = psi storm/maelstrom/dark swarm/plague/yamato and that's all you rarely see the others, SC2 you see pretty well everything all the time because of the user friendly way they did it.
32:15, I for one eagerly await your breeding room video Loko!
This match was casted by winter weeks ago but i appreciate you cast this as well because winter did not fully show the opening. He started like past 2 minutes.
Vipers are also like “half a defiler”, but that can fly… the other half being the infestor. But neural parasite is a boon, as only dark archons could control other faction’s units…
I miss the queen’s parasite ability, though. That, pretty much gave Zerg the vision from the infected unit, kinda like a permanent changeling! Overseers should have this skill… It’s a mechanic I miss a lot and that was great and entertaining.
I want the perfect starcraft faction video ! I WANT it
dragoons in sc3:
"I HAVE RETURNED"
“OH NO, A RAMP”
14:00 "You know what would make this composition better?"
Reavers. Give that man some Space-artillery. Only real way to deal with the Tyrrani-I-mean-Zerg.
SC definitely has those "iconic" units, but I'd argue the same thing for Warcraft 3, if we're looking at iconic units in RTS games in general. Peasant, Peon, Grunt, Dryad, Necromancer, Mortar Team... The list can go on and on, not to mention all the heroes.
But that would be a fun video idea, looking at iconic units in SC, would definitely watch that.
Totally thought this video was just going to be lowko playing some entertaining challenge on the ladder or something. Didn't realize it was a pro versus
Dragoons had their own FMV in SC1, that makes them pretty iconic. Stalkers seem to have more utility due to blink, but dragoons were tanks. DTs are pretty iconic, but their utility is limited with all the detectors and their high costs.
LMAO THAT INTRO"WHAT IS THAT ABOMINATION?!"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lowko: DRG goes only for brood war units
queen: you know i'm something of brood war unit myself!
"A plural of archons...nice" I mean, everytime I hear you make a minor English mistake, Lowko; I always think that you were almost right and didn't know it.
A "plurality" of archons was actually what I heard in my head until you pointed it out and that actually would have been correct.
I don't think many of us actually care about you mispeaking. Keep up the awesome vids man! Love ya!
Many interesting points made during this video! If we're talking iconic units, I think you can't go wrong with the Hydralisk, really. Remember that cinematic where Fenix dies? For the first time, anyway, before being reborn as a Dragoon. Or that Zerg mission where you're given 5 red Hydras called Hunter Killers, I think? Hell, there was even an Easter egg in WC3 in one of the Night Elf missions where you could find a Hydralisk and wreak havoc with it.
In any case, the point you made about the Hydras being able to be researched at Hatchery tech level... that would make things interesting. This is just an impression of mine, but it seems like Zerg opponents aren't very used to a highly-mobile AA unit whose DPS is not to be underestimated. Case in point, in this video, that prism drop in the main base would've been perfectly safe against Queens. I'd be all for it if they shook things up a little bit.
I guess the point I want to make is, nobody sees zerglings as just baby banelings, right? Because they are terrifying on their own, especially when fully upgraded. I want Hydralisks to be like that too.
Yes! The hunter killers were badass
So you want to buff zerg? That sounds like a great idea. Who wants anyone else to win ever again? The hydra has the second highest dps behind only stimmed marines. If you make it be less of a glass cannon you need to make it more expensive or make something else worse. Like roaches or ravagers
@@Wwillswords No need to get mad, I'm not proposing Zerg to be completely overpowered, I just want the Hydras to be a more viable option than they are today, where they are just seen as baby lurkers. Let me try to explain.
Of course, as you say, hydras are glass cannons today, and there is plenty of counterplay against them, is there not? Any kind of AoE completely negates them, we've seen in this game what some High Templar with Storm can do. Or some disruptors. Or trying to push into a line of siege tanks, or a planetary fortress.
Even in ZvZ you have the Vipers with that cloud that reduces their range to basically nothing. I am _fine_ with that. As I said in my original comment, I just want them to have a more prominent role, for them to be a little bit more viable.
So, how do we do that? One option is the one Lowko talked about in this video: by being able to create them at a lower tech level, they would appear on the battlefield way earlier. Would that be overpowered? I don't know, that's why I'm just a random someone commenting on a TH-cam video, and not someone working for the Blizzard balance department.
In any case, following your comparison with marines, Hydras without both their upgrades are... definitely sub-par. And keep in mind that it would still require you to go to a higher tech level to get them. I think that would be an interesting thing to test, even if it never leaves the realm of PTS.
The other option would be to make them less of a glass cannon. At the moment they are categorized as Light units, and that's one thing that could change.
By making them neither light not armored (just as queens, or banelings are), they would be able to tank a little bit more damage than they are right now, thus maybe reclaiming a bit of their ranged DPS role from roaches & ravagers.
This way you wouldn't need to change anything regarding tech level, and they would still come into the battlefield relatively late.
To summarize this long-ass comment, I just want the Hydras to have a bit more protagonism in the Zerg forces. I would be fine if that meant that some effectiveness was taken from other units, but, at the end of the day, I'm just someone else just watching Lowko's videos. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@SalvaBarbus so you just want to return to the glory days of hydras and are willing to sacrifice elsewhere got it.
0:01 that logo on DRG's hatchery is called 'Jinro toad' which is the mascot of korean Soju(alcohol spirits) company. And it looks like the toad's face is changed into sOs face?
I appreciate the explanation of the logo, but my friend, I'ma tell you now. That just makes me even more confused as to why DRG is using it.
@@awrawrwar probably corporate sponsor ad. why do nascar drivers paint Tide With Bleach on the hood of their car?
I’d honestly love to see you showing out of ALLLL of the SC units campaign and SC1/2 and what units to use for SC3
16:03 yes, it IS like just 12 years ago… 6, even! 😅😊
3:37 Don't remember the colonists on Heaven in Wings of Liberty? It had to die because it was infested already. It was becoming a zerg 😂
If they ever do make a SC3 I really hope they bring back Scourge. When mixed with Zerglings they were my bread and butter in Brood Wars. A swarm on the ground and a swarm in the air, supported by Mutas and Hydras. I also had a few Defilers in the mix to make it hard to kill the Zerglings.
@c0rruptreality nah they'll make SC Immortal for that
scourge should cost hella money because zerg will just use them to shut all the air down while sustaining their air composition. It would be IMBA.
I would definitely hear you ramble about sc3 units, Lowko
the LowriclesTv saga continues
Lowko - "Starcraft 1 was made in 1998... Its over 20 years ago..."
Me - Stop it...
Ahh yes! Time for another great Lowko video in the morning. Also, this may sound weird but I’m as weirded out about it as you… you were in my dream when I was at the store 😂
The breeding room better known as the hatchery
Units I want to see in SC3:
1p. Zealot
2p. Both Templars, both archons, maybe 3 different archons.
3p. oracle/void ray hybrid. Air beam unit.
4p. Carrier
5p. Reaver and/or colossus. Reaver shots should be free, but have charges.
6p. Photon Cannon
1z. Zergling
2z. Hydralisk
3z. Overlord
4z. Lurker
5z. Ultralisk
6z. Mutalisk
7z. Banelings but a bit reworked.
1t. Marine
2t. Siege Tank
3t. Medivac (probably the most elegant SC2 unit design idea)
4t. BattleCruiser
5t. Nukes (and notice how I didn't name ghosts, I don't care who will cast nukes, it may be not ghosts)
6t. Vulture mines/widow mines hybrid. Terrans should be able to create minefields.
It's come up a few times, I would love to see you cast a professional game from back in 2010, it would be really interesting to see how far the games come.
25:46 im surprised lowko didnt mention how Astrea's copying Hero too now
With how radically different the broodwar queen is from the sc2 one, i feel like the sc2 version should count against the challenge. It's only the same unit name, but they're different in every other measurable way. The raven and the science vessel are more alike than the SC1 and SC2 queens.
I think the overseer is forgivable because SC1 overlords were detectors, so having to spend resources to get back some of the SC1 functionality is fair
They both wear the same dance skirt though
My least favorite unit from the Starcraft franchise is the Marine. It's just too cost-efficient, and the only way to deal with it is to out-range it and/or AoE it down. Zealots, Stalkers, Adepts, Immortals, Zerglings, Roaches, Hydras, Marauders, Thors, every single air unit; Marines will overpower every single unit that can't outrange them or AoE them down. They are an iconic unit from SC:BW, but I don't like their design. It looks like Stormgate won't have a Marine equivalent, which makes me glad.
That Clan Decal has More beard than most Vikings! 🤣 viking🧔
the starcraft 3 video would be really cool to see. I would also like to see what units from the campaign or units you would just make up to put in starcraft 3 would look like.
7:07 "Fouracles"
Unrelenting aggression a.k.a DRGs zerg-a-lings lol
Those bird critters do look rather similar to creep tumors when they're standing still.
3:15 it's not about winning, it's about sending a message.
Also, Breeding Room video when?
"1998 was like 12 years ago" This is how I know we're getting old 😂
Not much beat the feeling of 100+ supply of dragoons marching across the map in SC1... one of my fav units
32:12 "breeding room" stream when?
Lowkos ideal SC2 Faktions with Armies would be Nice. How ever this match was nice too
Vipers feel like the SC2 version of defilers from BW. Queens gave their flying to them I guess
Imho three races were inspired by three movies: Aliens, Starship Troopers and Stargate
OK, can't take the game serious after seeing that clan decal, still 10/10
i still watch a lot of brood war casts.
I'd love a video about iconic units and some lore as well as the ideal unit comp for SC3, or a unit you think is missing and would like to see =)
I'm interested in your comparison video idea.
For DRG, there is no Starcraft 2. There are only Brood War and high-resolution Brood War.
I just realized Lurkers have five legs. That is all.
Please make a Starcraft Unit design video! I'd love to see what you think!
Id like that video on sc1, 2,3 units. go for it.
Tactical nook at 3:53
'he only builds Brood war units.'
the queens are not the same, and he built a ton of those.
While we’re talking about Brood War, after all these years I still can’t believe how weak storm is in SC2 compared to its predecessor
Blue zerg drones... red protoss probes?
I feel like DRG needs to work on his anti-storm micro
The only things in game 1 i didnt see DRG play thats from SC:BW is the Mutalisk and Ultralisk...
Hey Lowko, looking forward to the breeding room video. You promised.
18:15 I'd love to see that kind of content from you, would be a very cool break from the amazing casting you're doing :D
I'd probably watch it....
Check again: overlords are detectors. I mean, in SC1
23:35 overseer doesn’t count, like the queens, since overlords were detectors before. Overseer are just another nerf on the overlords!
In my time 🫠 overlords not only had detection, but ventral sacs made ALL of them into “dropalords”. Just like dropship upgrades (or ANY unit upgrade, for that matter) enhances its units immediately and totally. It is WEIRD that Ventral Sacs, now, is an upgrade that unlocks a unit and through MORPHING none the least. That’s expensive (and unnecessary). There is no other case in which an unit is unlocked by and upgrade, instead of a building. Major nerf!
And what it achieves? Making games with zerg drops a freaking rare exception… 😒
It’s a fusion of archons.
I didnt know Deep Rock Galactic was a pro SC2 player!
the lack of banelings really does show just how much units you can pump out constantly.... baneling are great but they are a 1 time unit, relatively expensive and take some time
It shows how bad lings are though without them. Its just like impossible to jump ht
@@Name-ru1kt zerglings are awful by themselves, aby aoe attack will kill them, they always need support
But what zerglings are great for is harassment if mineral lines and building, so long as they are not fighting other units they are the fastest base destroyers
Them being fast and cheap is another highlight, by themselves they can constantly harass different points in the map without having to wait for higher tier units or slower banelings
The upper limit is tenacles.
A storm of Archons?
Moracles!!!!
Breeding room video when
My fave part of SC1 was BALANCE. It was MUCH better balanced than SC2. I miss the cracklings - just PHENOMENAL - the crazy pace of their destruction. The SOUNDS too, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-, just so damn FAST! Hydras were 1 farm, and they should've kept it that way! You could TRULY mass in SC1 with Zerg. Defilers with plague and consume, just NASTY. So many options against Terran army balls!
SC1 is balanced fairly well > SC2 balance. I agree. SC2 is playable, but its still a dumpster fire of a game.
This is insane 😂 lowko rumbling about how blizzard "invented" sc units and races, meanwhile at the warhammer40.000 office: 🤔🤨😧😨😠😡🤬
SC1 overlords dont have nut detection.
entire commentary for game 2 can be boiled down to: "Lowko is not impressed"
Did you know that the word "anarchy" derives from "archon" ?
i'll only disagree with you lowko on the whole 'game of spellcasters' in starcraft 2 cause i just came from the artosis channel where a zerg player made 12 brood queens, and i really feel psy storms in starcraft 1 were insane compared to 2, they are still really good in two but god they would destroy literally anything in sc1
DRG lost the challenge he is using the ''Quen'' from Sc2.
Queens are in broodlord wdym. Someone wasn’t paying attention.
Those quens are actually in sc2 and are a non playable unit used in campains and coop... there are 2 quens in sc2 and only one belongs to broodwar.@@Name-ru1kt
I dont know man... if it were between the Stalker and the Dragoon... its totally go with the Dragoon, sure they dont have blink but they were a bit tankier and hit hard as hell. Plus the lore behind Dragoons as well as their death sound is amazing!
Honestly the ONE thing id REALLY like to see in SC2 or maybe even 3 is the return of the Scourge for zerg... flying baneling... oh shit, i just realized that both the BW Queen and Scourge ARE in SC2 but with their genetics spun as ground units rather than air units and with a different mutation tech path...
Also i really prefer the Guardian over the Broodlord. The Broodlord idea is cool but the whole fact that they are practically useless if say going against Terran with tons of hellbats and thors... the fact that their ATTACK is killable before it can do damage is retarded imo. The Guardians were so much better filling the aerial siege role than Broodlords.
Another wonderful idea in my opinion would be bringing back the leviathan,because right now the insectoid race truly lacks a capital ship worth of that name.
@@Seageass01you would need something to balance that
those storm hit but does not much dmg
Max clickbate title for American protoss ladder heros. Keep em' coming!
I just wish they bring back the guardians, devourers and defilers
There's also the medic, science vessel, wraith, vulture for terran, and corsair, dark archon, reaver, dropship, dragoon, arbiters and scout for protoss.
@@MarlonSolisFallas drop ship was Terran; Protoss had the shuttle
@@HaploBartowyes but give me back my dark archons and mind control
I wonder what PvP would be like if Blizzard limited the number of type of units one can build. What I mean is before the match starts the player will choose up to any 5 units (Drone/Probe/SCV not included in selection) and those 5 units will be the only thing that will show in Unit Training Buildings. As for Infestor controlled Drone/Probe/SCV they will grant the player the opposing teams selected units.
Hard counters / no fun is all I smell
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Blizzard in very few years built Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft universes. Each really had its own coherent universe with something different that we never saw before in a game ...
Today games' universes are so blank and already seen that nothing is marking our minds and imaginary. Only indie game manage to nails this feeling of "'new" because they have the balls to throw it all.
Today Blizzard is in that conservative state and doesnt want to commit into anything too new... Like every other multi millions dollar game corporation. Thats why the Marine, as simple as he is, will still be more remembered than the Viper
Wow
Fouracles.
Dude< it's so sad i can't like this video twice
Blizzard's creativity wasn't in "iconic units".. They paraphrased Games Workshop because GW backed out of their game deal.
Make the vid
while i enjoy watching sc2 gameplay as far as actually playing it myself i just cant stand it compared to sc1
they tried to make it more "balanced" while taking all the fun out of it for me, for one the fact that you cant make infested marines anymore is just a wtf decision to me, dragoons were superior to stalkers imo just because they felt tankier and seemed to hit harder but as far as comparable stats go thats probably not the case, but atleast they can both attack air units
the wraiths were amazing, replaced by a crappier version of them that can only target ground? wtf why
hellbats only being able to be made by turning a hellion car into a hellbat? gtfo give me vultures and the OG hellbats back
no more scourge for the zerg so theres that
overlords dont come with detector without upgrading? come on
so many good units just completely removed and so many more things i find wrong with their decision making when it came to the units of sc2 and i partly blame the Esport scene, as you said when the devs were first making the units they did so for fun factor but as we all know that blizzard is dead and its all about maximizing the esport scene now for longer survivability of the franchise but, again just my opinion, seems to knock out the casuals who just want to hop on and play
and yeah sc1 is old as dirt, i had it for pc AND N64 its that damn old
still love the cheese by alot of the pros tho, and ofc the commentary ;)
wrr
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Lol Astrea is so bad
If you say four oracles again instead of fouracles I will unsub and cry in the shower
zerg op boring
Don't even talk about Starcraft 3, it makes me sad. Blizzard is dead dude. We will never get another good Starcraft game. It's not going to happen.