Great to see the trick at the last boss, I only heard about it before. Do you think we can do the same in a fortified week to kill the last pack at 23 ?
Definitely still doable on Fort keys, in fact it's probably safer to do assuming your tank can stay alive during the initial grouping since it causes the pack to die so quickly!
Freedom/Tiger's Lust can remove Blackout Barrel externally. Also anything that makes you completely immune to snares also counts such as Chi-Ji (albeit the mechanic doesn't typically target the healer).
Basically exactly what Medaax said, even though it doesn't say anywhere the ability is considered a movement impairing effect so abilities that prevent those will get you out of it!
Just like Cruz said, they previously did buff the bosses back in BfA but this was changed on PTR, so the only brew that affects them now is the damage one.
I made a thread in the forums about the paladin combat res being way more costly than other tanks. As predictable, the people there don't care about facts but rather just classism. I showed facts though. If you convert holy power to 100 and each holy power is 20 unit. CR on Prot costs 60 units. In DK it costs 30 and in druid it costs 30. It's double the cost. It should cost one or 2 HP on paladin. DK even has a 125RP pool. The fact that Prot cannot pool more resources and the finishers are all 3HP while other tanks have 30-40 unit spenders it is much easier to pool resources and res with a DK or druid. In short, yes, at least reduce it to 2 HP, but 1HP would make the most sense given class mechanics. Alternatively would be to have prot be able to pool 6HP.
They don't balance abilties, they balance classes though. Paladin already has the most utility of all tanks and I was surprised they even got a BR at all.
@@AndreasRex Another one. Sorry, i don't care what your favorite class is or how it's being rear ended, but all of these tanks have the same utility bres and have plenty of other utility. If the tank is having to die to bres and others don't, something is not right and that's that. Saying "you should be happy to have it at all, even if it's s**t to use" is not a valid argument.
@@AndreasRex except not only does Paladin have the worst time hoarding, but also can't generate their resource in a reasonable time. It could take 4 globals to even get the HP to spend while you also lost your SotR and die as seen here. Guardian is literally drowning in Rage most of the time and at worst can Mangle for 15 to get most of the cost right there.
Idk why Paladin didn't get a talent to pool to 6 when Evoker did with their Essence system. Ideally, you aren't pooling that much to begin with, but it DOES smooth out things when your abilities cost 3 like Emerald Blossom as an example for PEvoker where with 6 max you can dump 2 without Essence Bursts.
@@amethonys2798 I'm not disagreeing palas are the worst off when it comes to their BR, just saying it was likely a concious decision condidering balance as a whole.
Can you please do fortified video guides instead of tyrannical.. tanks watch these for help and it's fortified week that kills tanks, bosses are a joke.
I try and put a decent mix of Fort/Tyr videos out for the advanced guides, but will definitely be doing some fortified specific stuff taking a look at dangerous trash pulls for tanks in the future, so hopefully that helps out!
love your guides, thanks!
No problem at all!
Just bricked my first ever +20 cause I didn’t watch this first. Won’t be making that mistake again!
You'll get the next one for sure!
Great to see the trick at the last boss, I only heard about it before. Do you think we can do the same in a fortified week to kill the last pack at 23 ?
Definitely still doable on Fort keys, in fact it's probably safer to do assuming your tank can stay alive during the initial grouping since it causes the pack to die so quickly!
@@Tactyks thank you for the response. Do you happen to stream on twitch?
@@wowcnmovie He sure does! at www.twitch.tv/tactyks
@@wowcnmovie I do! You can find me at www.twitch.tv/tactyks
Hey, can you please explain how you remove the barrel on 2nd boss ?
Nice route btw. And really nicely done for last boss :)
Freedom/Tiger's Lust can remove Blackout Barrel externally. Also anything that makes you completely immune to snares also counts such as Chi-Ji (albeit the mechanic doesn't typically target the healer).
Basically exactly what Medaax said, even though it doesn't say anywhere the ability is considered a movement impairing effect so abilities that prevent those will get you out of it!
All I can find on the internet is that the brews do affect Raoul and Eudora. Did they change this?
Yup, they no longer buff them
Just like Cruz said, they previously did buff the bosses back in BfA but this was changed on PTR, so the only brew that affects them now is the damage one.
I made a thread in the forums about the paladin combat res being way more costly than other tanks. As predictable, the people there don't care about facts but rather just classism.
I showed facts though. If you convert holy power to 100 and each holy power is 20 unit. CR on Prot costs 60 units. In DK it costs 30 and in druid it costs 30. It's double the cost. It should cost one or 2 HP on paladin. DK even has a 125RP pool. The fact that Prot cannot pool more resources and the finishers are all 3HP while other tanks have 30-40 unit spenders it is much easier to pool resources and res with a DK or druid.
In short, yes, at least reduce it to 2 HP, but 1HP would make the most sense given class mechanics. Alternatively would be to have prot be able to pool 6HP.
They don't balance abilties, they balance classes though. Paladin already has the most utility of all tanks and I was surprised they even got a BR at all.
@@AndreasRex Another one. Sorry, i don't care what your favorite class is or how it's being rear ended, but all of these tanks have the same utility bres and have plenty of other utility. If the tank is having to die to bres and others don't, something is not right and that's that.
Saying "you should be happy to have it at all, even if it's s**t to use" is not a valid argument.
@@AndreasRex except not only does Paladin have the worst time hoarding, but also can't generate their resource in a reasonable time. It could take 4 globals to even get the HP to spend while you also lost your SotR and die as seen here.
Guardian is literally drowning in Rage most of the time and at worst can Mangle for 15 to get most of the cost right there.
Idk why Paladin didn't get a talent to pool to 6 when Evoker did with their Essence system. Ideally, you aren't pooling that much to begin with, but it DOES smooth out things when your abilities cost 3 like Emerald Blossom as an example for PEvoker where with 6 max you can dump 2 without Essence Bursts.
@@amethonys2798 I'm not disagreeing palas are the worst off when it comes to their BR, just saying it was likely a concious decision condidering balance as a whole.
"hi guys im gonna show you a way to do this only in this particular setup"
Ah yes, the popular meta setup of 2x paladin and 2x devokers (this route is 100% fine with almost any group comp).
@@Tactyks except you need a rouge for the skip
@@NathenToZuo You can also do the skip with a priest of any spec or just use invis pots which anyone can use.
@@Tactyks oh yeah, invis pots, tell that to my pugs
@@NathenToZuo 0:23
The fact it can pick the same person 2x is really asinine.
Yeah, especially with how quick the cast is it definitely feels a bit unfair.
Asinine lol
Can you please do fortified video guides instead of tyrannical.. tanks watch these for help and it's fortified week that kills tanks, bosses are a joke.
I try and put a decent mix of Fort/Tyr videos out for the advanced guides, but will definitely be doing some fortified specific stuff taking a look at dangerous trash pulls for tanks in the future, so hopefully that helps out!