Haha, maybe because many of your viewers already have 703s? You made a good comparison. The 2C23T seems less wobbly, more functional construction and a more developed waveform generator. The 703s is more efficient and has stronger oscilloscope with X-Y mode, which I believe is more important. Both are good, and I hope both can learn from each other and improve in the future. Thank you
I am assuming that Oscilloscopes are more sensitive and advanced than EKG machines, yet I can not detect whatever EKG machines are detecting, or maybe I couldn't figure it out. You are more experienced than I am, can you please tell out how to do it and what I am doing wrong? Thanks for your videos.
@@ShonMardani "0.5 mV to 5.0 mV The front end of an ECG must be able to deal with extremely weak signals ranging from 0.5 mV to 5.0 mV, combined with a dc component of up to ±300 mV-resulting from the electrode-skin contact-plus a common-mode component of up to 1.5 V, resulting from the potential between the electrodes and ground." Google is everyone's friend... And you need a special sensor, it's not enough to stick the probe of the oscilloscope into yourself.
As a technician I have always wanted a portable oscilloscope available in a multimeter format. From your description the Zoyi-703S seems to be the far superior option. The accuracy and ease of use is better than the other unit. XY mode and fast capture will be of more use than the temperature capability Thank you Tim for your review, it has helped me choose the better one. I want the Zoyi-703S !!🤞😊
Thanks for the video, it helped me to realize Zoyi is the option that best suits my needs. Actually it was in good timing as I did already placed the order for the Fnirsi tester, which obviously cancelled just in time after watching this video. Two main dealbreakers: X-Y mode and higher bandwith
Either is attractive, but I prefer the ZOYI ZT-703s, because better bandwidth and XY mode. It was easy to decide because your review is very concise and you showed exactly what I needed to know. Now if they performed the same, I would prefer the smaller flatter form factor of the FNIRSI.
I bought a FNIRST and it was bad from the start. They (FNIRST) would only message via their support webpage/window, basically they told me send pictures (I did), they said it was working fine (I told them I did not want it). They stopped responding and I have to eat the lose (throw it away). After many email and the insults I just gave up. SO "their support" is very bad. Going to get the 703S after this video. Thanks sir. FYI: BSEE since 1979, I have 4 other scopes (2 analog scopes). Yea, pretty sure it was NOT me. Never bought from them again and I always direct people to the "OTHER option" if there is one.
I will choose the ZOYI-703S ZOYI 703S seems more suitable for my requirements. It has a better bandwidth, is more accurate, and the display in multimeter mode is more conventional (the Fnirsi multimeter mode display is weird). To be honest the multimeter mode will be used more often, but the oscilloscope will be always there when needed.
On balance I think I prefer the ZOYI ZT-703s. The interface seems to be more user friendly and the button layout less cluttered. Thanks for the comparison, it really helps in making a decision.
I have tried both of these instruments and my final choice was the 703S. I wanted to resolve an analogue video wave form and the 703s was better at that. The sig gen was less of an incentive as I already have a very capable one and the scope was the most important element to me. Its unfortunate that the sig gen cannot be used at the same time as the scope, you need to connect another scope to the side connectors to view it and you have to press the mode button to clear the sig gen set up screen and this enables the scope again, but the output changes to the 1KHz probe set up sig gen, its not the same as the main one. Other than that with the latest firmware V1.4.2. its a very competent tool.
UPDATE. With the new 1.4.2. firmware update we now have a third trace available in the form of "FFT" (FAST FOURIER TRANSFORM) availability in glorious RED colour. It replaces the FORMAT position in the fourth menu which was used to delete the stored screen shots. It changes the "X" axis from time to frequency and as such changes the display to that of a a spectrum analyser. Frequency is plotted along the x-axis and amplitude is plotted along the y-axis. FFTs often look like a series of mountain peaks. The horizontal location of peaks indicates which frequencies are strongly present in the W/F. The valleys show which frequencies are absent. I tried this with the built in calibration sig gen on all the available W/Fs and it shows the strongest frequency is the prime 1 KHz followed in the case of square waves by diminishing amplitude peaks at each successive square wave. Quite useful when checking audio problems etc. The second change in the menu is in the 2nd row, what used to be the trigger position, is now "SAMPLE" with two choices, HD & PEAK, peak.
I need a temp sensor as i work on model trains and i need to be sure the smoke generator is hot enough. But I do not like the setup of the FNIRIS having to go back to home all the time. I am so used the dial but love the need bid screen. I guess I would want the ZOYI them find a temp reader separately. Dennis Thank You, Dennis
I like 703s, because of XY mode. Possible octopus or V-I curve tracer. But 2C23T is also good in other ways. Maybe I could make some modifications to 703s, to have microamp / nanoamp range or simple back hook also. Thank you
Id love to get my hands on the zoyi as its not available locally in ny country. This would go really well with the rig im building for trouble shooting pcb faults and verifying that all works as intended.
Based on my experience, after 9 Fnrisi products, I can say Zoyi. Fnirsi doesn't care about its customers, it releases a product, and then instead of fixing the errors, it releases another one, which might be even worse... You can see this with the 2C53P after the DPOX180H, which is a disaster... Zoyi, on the other hand, releases updates and even newer features faster. Now in 1.4.2 there is an FFT function. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's better than Fnirsi. little off: I am now waiting for the Owon HDS120, which came out recently, I hope it arrives this week. It is not a full-fledged scope, but in some cases it is sufficient. You can quickly and easily check simpler waves, whether the measured voltage contains AC or DC components, etc. There is no need to struggle with the BNC probe for a simple check. Until now, I didn't buy such a device because I didn't trust its quality, but I am satisfied with Owon so far.
@@szekerespista3758 A HDS120 kezelése sokkal egyszerűbb. De A kettő nem ugyan az a kategória. A Zoyi az egy nagyon alap oszcilloszkóp. Ezért a kezelése kissé bonyolultabb, ugyanúgy mint az Owon HDS200-as szériának ami szintén egy rendes oszcilloszkópot tartalmaz. kevés gomb + sok funkció = bonyolult... A HDS120 pedig egy multiméter amiben van egy alap szintű, kis tudású oszcilloszkóp féleség. A HDS120 kezelése sokkal egyszerűbb ezért, de cserébe sokkal sokkal sokkal kevesebbet tud. Nem kell annyi gombkombináció, és menü. A HDS120 multimétere olyan mint az átlagos Owon multiméter. Az oszcilloszkóp része arra jó, hogyha mérsz valamit multiméterrel és nincs olyan készüléked ami a DC és AC jelet egyszerre tudja megmérni, mint például a Uni-t UT181A, akkor ezzel meg tudod nézni. jelalak stb. Nem kell a BNC-s mérővezetékkel kínlódnod, gyorsabb egyszerűbb. Az érzékenysége viszont felháborító. a kisebb "mV"-os méréshatárban a frekvencia csak pár kHz. A "V"-os méréshatárban közel azt tudja amit ígértek. kevesebb memória, ha megállítod a felvételt, akkor kicsit kínlódás a jelet jobbra, balra el mozgatnod. illetve ha kilépsz abból a menüből, akkor nem tudsz már vissza lépni, ez valamilyen bug benne. Én szerintem AUDIO célokra nem teljesen alkalmas. Nem írtad hogy milyen felhasználásra szeretnéd, de ez oszcilloszkóp helyett nem jó, nem lehet olyan jól analizálni a jelet a kis memória miatt, és mivel kisebb a mintavételezése ezért a nagyobb frekvenciákon már csalóka. pár 100kHz-ig merném csak ajánlani. A négyszög jelek pedig torzak, ha gyors a felfutási idelyük! Az EEVblog-on van róla egy kis infó. Ha kérdésed van szívesen válaszolok. HA esetleg rátalálsz te is az Owon CMS101-re, akkor azt felejtsd el. Az egy katasztrófa. Nincs benne single trigger. A szkóp-ban nem lehet "Base line calibration"-t csinálni, vagyis mindíg van egy kis offszet rajta. Nekem -900mA, és a második készüléken -1,8A... Az USB-jét úgy tűnik csak töltésre használja, nincs adatkapcsolat, vagyis nincs frissítés... Az hatalmas bukta az Owonnak...
Was very close for me, both seem to have good features but for scope use mainly the FNIRSI 2C23T tipped it for me. Would like both really the ZOYI for multi meter and FNIRSI for the scope but want a scope more as i have multi meters already. Been looking for a scope and the FNIRSI seems suitable. Good review. Thanks.. Keep up the good work .
If you need XY mode 25k resolution on multimeter and bigger size then choose Zoyi. If you want better wave gen more intuitive operation and smaller size then choose Fniris. Both for the price are amazing to me
ZOYI 703S kocham ten produkt miałem wersie 702S a ten 703S jest wspaniały i lepszy Jakby dało się jeszcze używać tego lepszego generatora sygnałów i oscyloskopu jednocześnie to by był ideał I want ZT-703s
I got ZOYI S3, and I gotta say, after using it for a month, it has A LOT of bugs. Sometimes something as simple as wrong voltage reading, it has trouble if the DC voltage is variable. Voltmeter doesn't understand what's going on and even shows negative values and I have to turn it on and off for it to read properly, while osciollocope sometimes shows 50v when I have 5v going from power supply. There are many other bugs, but didn't expect bugs with reading values and even formatting.
It still has a lot of bugs. The Zoyi measures the signal poorly, so sometimes I have to use the cursor. What you wrote that you measured the 5V power supply as 50V looks like user error to me. It is possible that the probe was at 1x and the scope at 10x. or the probe was 10x and the scope was 100x. I don't understand the voltmeter thing, I haven't seen anyone complain about it yet. I haven't experienced that either.
Who care how its look? More interesting how its work, i know that for example 2c23T is not measuring a lot of time, looks like while it draw image, so if you want to catch short signal it miss it completely often.
hey bros, please tell me why, hha why would you like this model. thanks
Haha, maybe because many of your viewers already have 703s?
You made a good comparison.
The 2C23T seems less wobbly, more functional construction and a more developed waveform generator.
The 703s is more efficient and has stronger oscilloscope with X-Y mode, which I believe is more important.
Both are good, and I hope both can learn from each other and improve in the future. Thank you
703s because scope is better !
@@pacor.9325 hha thank you bro, that's what i am thinking about.
I am assuming that Oscilloscopes are more sensitive and advanced than EKG machines, yet I can not detect whatever EKG machines are detecting, or maybe I couldn't figure it out. You are more experienced than I am, can you please tell out how to do it and what I am doing wrong?
Thanks for your videos.
@@ShonMardani
"0.5 mV to 5.0 mV
The front end of an ECG must be able to deal with extremely weak signals ranging from 0.5 mV to 5.0 mV, combined with a dc component of up to ±300 mV-resulting from the electrode-skin contact-plus a common-mode component of up to 1.5 V, resulting from the potential between the electrodes and ground."
Google is everyone's friend...
And you need a special sensor, it's not enough to stick the probe of the oscilloscope into yourself.
I Want the Zoyi 703s. Very nice products, thanks for the comparison review.
As a technician I have always wanted a portable oscilloscope available in a multimeter format. From your description the Zoyi-703S seems to be the far superior option. The accuracy and ease of use is better than the other unit. XY mode and fast capture will be of more use than the temperature capability Thank you Tim for your review, it has helped me choose the better one.
I want the Zoyi-703S !!🤞😊
I will buy a ZOYI 703s. tanks for this compare.
Thanks for the video, it helped me to realize Zoyi is the option that best suits my needs.
Actually it was in good timing as I did already placed the order for the Fnirsi tester, which obviously cancelled just in time after watching this video.
Two main dealbreakers: X-Y mode and higher bandwith
I also compared the 2 and ended up buying the Zoyte thanks for the videos
Either is attractive, but I prefer the ZOYI ZT-703s, because better bandwidth and XY mode. It was easy to decide because your review is very concise and you showed exactly what I needed to know. Now if they performed the same, I would prefer the smaller flatter form factor of the FNIRSI.
Thank you for your video, it helped me make my mind, and decided for the Zoyi 703S, which I'm waiting for its delivery
I bought a FNIRST and it was bad from the start. They (FNIRST) would only message via their support webpage/window, basically they told me send pictures (I did), they said it was working fine (I told them I did not want it). They stopped responding and I have to eat the lose (throw it away). After many email and the insults I just gave up. SO "their support" is very bad. Going to get the 703S after this video. Thanks sir.
FYI: BSEE since 1979, I have 4 other scopes (2 analog scopes). Yea, pretty sure it was NOT me. Never bought from them again and I always direct people to the "OTHER option" if there is one.
I will choose the ZOYI-703S
ZOYI 703S seems more suitable for my requirements. It has a better bandwidth, is more accurate, and the display in multimeter mode is more conventional (the Fnirsi multimeter mode display is weird).
To be honest the multimeter mode will be used more often, but the oscilloscope will be always there when needed.
On balance I think I prefer the ZOYI ZT-703s. The interface seems to be more user friendly and the button layout less cluttered. Thanks for the comparison, it really helps in making a decision.
I Want the Zoyi 703s. Gracias
I have tried both of these instruments and my final choice was the 703S. I wanted to resolve an analogue video wave form and the 703s was better at that. The sig gen was less of an incentive as I already have a very capable one and the scope was the most important element to me. Its unfortunate that the sig gen cannot be used at the same time as the scope, you need to connect another scope to the side connectors to view it and you have to press the mode button to clear the sig gen set up screen and this enables the scope again, but the output changes to the 1KHz probe set up sig gen, its not the same as the main one. Other than that with the latest firmware V1.4.2. its a very competent tool.
I want the ZOYI ZT-703S.
Very helpful and informative, thanks. I think i will look to buy the ZOYI after seeing this video. Will have to look at the price here in Australia..
Please compare Owon HD242S vs Zoyi 703S.
UPDATE.
With the new 1.4.2. firmware update we now have a third trace available in the form of "FFT" (FAST FOURIER TRANSFORM) availability in glorious RED colour. It replaces the FORMAT position in the fourth menu which was used to delete the stored screen shots. It changes the "X" axis from time to frequency and as such changes the display to that of a a spectrum analyser. Frequency is plotted along the x-axis and amplitude is plotted along the y-axis. FFTs often look like a series of mountain peaks. The horizontal location of peaks indicates which frequencies are strongly present in the W/F. The valleys show which frequencies are absent. I tried this with the built in calibration sig gen on all the available W/Fs and it shows the strongest frequency is the prime 1 KHz followed in the case of square waves by diminishing amplitude peaks at each successive square wave. Quite useful when checking audio problems etc. The second change in the menu is in the 2nd row, what used to be the trigger position, is now "SAMPLE" with two choices, HD & PEAK, peak.
Great comparison. Thanks.
I need a temp sensor as i work on model trains and i need to be sure the smoke generator is hot enough. But I do not like the setup of the FNIRIS having to go back to home all the time. I am so used the dial but love the need bid screen. I guess I would want the ZOYI them find a temp reader separately. Dennis Thank You, Dennis
Great! thanks for your review!!!!!
The ZOYI 703S would make me very happy
I like 703s, because of XY mode. Possible octopus or V-I curve tracer. But 2C23T is also good in other ways.
Maybe I could make some modifications to 703s, to have microamp / nanoamp range or simple back hook also. Thank you
Great! Thanks!
I have started to learn FPGA so. I need a multimeter/oscilloscope to make some measurements. I want Zoyi Zt703s
nice video Tim
I'd like the Zoyi, please, if the time hasn't run out ;)
Where can we find firmware update 1.4.2 for the 703S? I checked the ZOYI site but they only have the 1.3.9
Thanks
drive.google.com/file/d/1Sd3YS1RNme_9VrY4SYDEce5mHvTl5e_G/view
I want FNIRSI 2C23T :)
I want ZOYI ZT-703S
I have FNIRSI 2C23T and for audio is OK.
I had a AZoyi ZT-703 until someone stole it. After this video, I would choose it again.
I want ZT-703s
Id love to get my hands on the zoyi as its not available locally in ny country.
This would go really well with the rig im building for trouble shooting pcb faults and verifying that all works as intended.
Quiero el Zoyi 703S. Gracias
I think the blue one is better for people that aren’t used to oscilloscopes. Red one is intimedating
I have already reguested to place an order for fnirsi 2c23t, but with your comparison, I'm confused. What your advice?
Based on my experience, after 9 Fnrisi products, I can say Zoyi.
Fnirsi doesn't care about its customers, it releases a product, and then instead of fixing the errors, it releases another one, which might be even worse...
You can see this with the 2C53P after the DPOX180H, which is a disaster...
Zoyi, on the other hand, releases updates and even newer features faster.
Now in 1.4.2 there is an FFT function.
I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's better than Fnirsi.
little off:
I am now waiting for the Owon HDS120, which came out recently, I hope it arrives this week.
It is not a full-fledged scope, but in some cases it is sufficient.
You can quickly and easily check simpler waves, whether the measured voltage contains AC or DC components, etc.
There is no need to struggle with the BNC probe for a simple check.
Until now, I didn't buy such a device because I didn't trust its quality, but I am satisfied with Owon so far.
@@juhaszpeter4796 Does the firmware version 1.4.2 applies to the Zoyi 703S?
@@juhaszpeter4796 szia Péter. Milyen az Owon HDS120 a Zoyi-hoz képest? A kezelhetőség is fontos nálam, ne legyen túl bonyolult a menüje. Köszönöm!
@@szekerespista3758
A HDS120 kezelése sokkal egyszerűbb.
De
A kettő nem ugyan az a kategória.
A Zoyi az egy nagyon alap oszcilloszkóp.
Ezért a kezelése kissé bonyolultabb, ugyanúgy mint az Owon HDS200-as szériának ami szintén egy rendes oszcilloszkópot tartalmaz.
kevés gomb + sok funkció = bonyolult...
A HDS120 pedig egy multiméter amiben van egy alap szintű, kis tudású oszcilloszkóp féleség.
A HDS120 kezelése sokkal egyszerűbb ezért, de cserébe sokkal sokkal sokkal kevesebbet tud.
Nem kell annyi gombkombináció, és menü.
A HDS120 multimétere olyan mint az átlagos Owon multiméter.
Az oszcilloszkóp része arra jó, hogyha mérsz valamit multiméterrel és nincs olyan készüléked ami a DC és AC jelet egyszerre tudja megmérni, mint például a Uni-t UT181A, akkor ezzel meg tudod nézni.
jelalak stb.
Nem kell a BNC-s mérővezetékkel kínlódnod, gyorsabb egyszerűbb.
Az érzékenysége viszont felháborító.
a kisebb "mV"-os méréshatárban a frekvencia csak pár kHz.
A "V"-os méréshatárban közel azt tudja amit ígértek.
kevesebb memória, ha megállítod a felvételt, akkor kicsit kínlódás a jelet jobbra, balra el mozgatnod. illetve ha kilépsz abból a menüből, akkor nem tudsz már vissza lépni, ez valamilyen bug benne.
Én szerintem AUDIO célokra nem teljesen alkalmas.
Nem írtad hogy milyen felhasználásra szeretnéd, de ez oszcilloszkóp helyett nem jó, nem lehet olyan jól analizálni a jelet a kis memória miatt, és mivel kisebb a mintavételezése ezért a nagyobb frekvenciákon már csalóka. pár 100kHz-ig merném csak ajánlani.
A négyszög jelek pedig torzak, ha gyors a felfutási idelyük!
Az EEVblog-on van róla egy kis infó.
Ha kérdésed van szívesen válaszolok.
HA esetleg rátalálsz te is az Owon CMS101-re, akkor azt felejtsd el.
Az egy katasztrófa.
Nincs benne single trigger.
A szkóp-ban nem lehet "Base line calibration"-t csinálni, vagyis mindíg van egy kis offszet rajta.
Nekem -900mA, és a második készüléken -1,8A...
Az USB-jét úgy tűnik csak töltésre használja, nincs adatkapcsolat, vagyis nincs frissítés...
Az hatalmas bukta az Owonnak...
Was very close for me, both seem to have good features but for scope use mainly the FNIRSI 2C23T tipped it for me.
Would like both really the ZOYI for multi meter and FNIRSI for the scope but want a scope more as i have multi meters already.
Been looking for a scope and the FNIRSI seems suitable.
Good review.
Thanks..
Keep up the good work .
I like ZOYI
I want the 703S! Better value. Are you able to try high speed mode?
If you need XY mode 25k resolution on multimeter and bigger size then choose Zoyi. If you want better wave gen more intuitive operation and smaller size then choose Fniris. Both for the price are amazing to me
I want 2C23T.
The 703s is definitely a better meter, in my opinion. I already have the 703s, would love to try the fnirsi.
It would be really nice if they come with c9mputer interface to c9nnect to a PC based software
I agree 👍
thanks that was a great comparing !
ZOYI 703S kocham ten produkt miałem wersie 702S a ten 703S jest wspaniały i lepszy Jakby dało się jeszcze używać tego lepszego generatora sygnałów i oscyloskopu jednocześnie to by był ideał I want ZT-703s
ZOYI 703S и только ZOYI 703S!!!
I think ,FNIRSI will be better for long use
Quiero zoyi zt 703s
I got ZOYI S3, and I gotta say, after using it for a month, it has A LOT of bugs. Sometimes something as simple as wrong voltage reading, it has trouble if the DC voltage is variable. Voltmeter doesn't understand what's going on and even shows negative values and I have to turn it on and off for it to read properly, while osciollocope sometimes shows 50v when I have 5v going from power supply. There are many other bugs, but didn't expect bugs with reading values and even formatting.
It still has a lot of bugs.
The Zoyi measures the signal poorly, so sometimes I have to use the cursor.
What you wrote that you measured the 5V power supply as 50V looks like user error to me.
It is possible that the probe was at 1x and the scope at 10x.
or the probe was 10x and the scope was 100x.
I don't understand the voltmeter thing, I haven't seen anyone complain about it yet.
I haven't experienced that either.
I want FNIRSI 2C23T 💕
it's crap, i just gave mine away
why ?😮@@shaunmorrissey7313
more comments, please !!!!!!
i want fnirsi 2ct23
I want FNIRIS 2C23T because of temperature measurment and good signal generator
Who care how its look? More interesting how its work, i know that for example 2c23T is not measuring a lot of time, looks like while it draw image, so if you want to catch short signal it miss it completely often.
ZOYI ZT-703S is way better !!!!!
Только из-за веса нужно брать 703ѕ
and don't forget 20% coupon (TIM1TIM2) at buydmm.com, the new multimeter shopping mall.
the fnersi is junk, yes i own one.
I want ZT-703s
I want FNIRIS 2C23T
I want FNIRSI 2C23T
I want ZT-703s
I want FNIRSI 2C23T
I want ZT-703s
I want FNIRIS 2C23T
I want FNIRIS 2C23T
I want ZOYI ZT-703S
I want ZOYI ZT-703S