My favorite episode is "face the music" because how the episode ended with the idea that all the rules, being put on a pedestal, and controlling of being a princess was necessary if not right
I liked the ideas present in that episode too, but I had some problems with the execution. Firstly, Star was unnecessarily mean to the minstrel hired to write and sing her song. He even told her that he wanted to get to know the "real" her shortly after first meeting her, yet she didn't realize that until after her brattiness had him running for the hills in frustration, making her seem stupidly unobservant. It also seemed like she only resisted the traditional song because it was corny and sugary and wouldn't make her look cool and bad*ss (I understand that it's realistic that a teen would feel that way), despite her complaining about how it hides a queen's real character. It makes me wonder what did she want to convey to the people. Her actual song itself presented her the same as her introduction in the very first episode did: princess who kicks butt, which is not really any more profound than prissy princess who smiles all the time. It would've been more honest if the writers just had Star say, "What a sissy's song! It makes me sound lame, I want something kewler!!" Lastly, I don't know why Star suddenly revealed a sensitive government secret in her song in the middle. Was it to show how irresponsible she was or that her family was? IDK how she'd think that it was "right for her."
@@Rosemont104 I makes sense if you think of it in terms of star having a "warts and all" mentality. star likes herself even if herself is at best a disaster and thinks the same is true of her family only for moon to step in and say "No, the people get the fantasy of the perfect queen or they riot"
I'm sick and tired of the Ariel disrespect. She wanted to explore the human world and to be human. She literally sang 'Part of That World' expressing it and is an explorer. Eric is a bonus
@@eddie-roo Triton wasn't really abusive, more closed minded. He disagreed with Ariel about going to the surface, but genually loved and cared for her. He spends the entire movie searching for her and when he finds her, realizing She Is in danger, decides to sacrifice himself to protect her. By the end he even accepther decision to stay on the surface and grants her legs. All of his action were all ment to protect her.
The Star/legs under the rug, in the case, at the school are the time line Star that is created when Glosoric removes himself from Stars timeline in the ?Queens room.. Stars tapestry.. Alternate timeline s Star is the deceit shown by Glosoric when he shows her the finished tapestry.. She still has magic coming out of her hand supposedly after destroying the magic.. It's the details..
I remember watching this episode as a kid and thinking it was not scary. It either had to do with I just didn't understand the implications of it or that I was glad that pony head was finally suffering or both.
I'd be excited to see a future video on Toffee and his overall execution (which could be chalked up to a combination of potential thrown away, lazy writing and bad timing, since an Avatar director left the show after Season 2 and Toffee's voice actor was either too busy, too expensive, or had terminal cancer that he somehow survived). As for the reform school, what's interesting is that they do not teach these girls how to rule but only how to look "respectable," and it spends the whole time showing us what conformity looks like but next to nothing on what nonconformity looks like aside from a shallow "destructive goth" image (which is also generic). Nothing substantial like wanting social reform or thinking outside of the box politically, it's either "spoiled brat who misbehaves and breaks things" or "monotonous palace flower." I wish they had an episode about its brother school for princes too. Could've made for a neat compare and contrast regarding royal gender roles. What is also interesting about these princess parodies is that they put forth this nebulous, ahistorical concept of a prissy princess but never really get to the root of the problem: the original three Disney princesses that get mocked today for being too sugary sweet and boring were all the same character - some conservative, midwestern man's "waifu." They were less princesses and more the kind of women that men living through the Great Depression and the second world war wished they could marry. In other words, June Cleavers before there was a June Cleaver.
@@Office_chair Eric was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Chances are she still would've gone to Ursula to go to the human world if she never met Eric.
I feel like I'm being a bit nitpicky here but u said you're self that a pilot is usually over crammed and not the best look at what a series has to offer so I don't think it comparable to even vaguely compare Saint Olga's school to Reality check summer camp especially considering were never given a complete look at how the summer camp operates.
The thing about Ariel is kind of true she did always want to go to the human world but remember she fell in love with a guy she saved and just see on a boat. AND DECIDE SHE'S GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM.
Her father has a weapon of mass destruction and he showed her he won’t hesitate on using it against her to keep her in line. She escaped an abusive household to pursue her passions, the prince was just a bonus.
@@eddie-roo yeah sort of I would say he was abusive but still she went and lived with a guy she only knew for like 2 minutes. But then again this is Disney.
I won’t accept accept Ariel slander. She had a passion for the surface world way before Eric, then she developed a crush and her abusive father destroyed all of her stuff in front of her. She was escaping an abusive relationship to follow her passions. Stop victim blaming Ariel and Cinderella, people!
Luz's mother is abusive, but mildly and unintentionally. She's just panicking because her daughter was on a bad path in life and kept acting impulsively (which is where Luz gets her impulsiveness) to try to get Luz to act more socially acceptable and figure something realistic for her future, she doesn't listen to what Luz wants when they first talk after Luz had been to the Isles, and wanted to forcibly "normalize" her, abuse is always abuse regardless of intention and everyone does it from time to time and in most cases probably have abusive habits or beliefs, the best you get in life is recognizing your behavior is wrong and just trying to be better.
Also about that woman in charge, she gives me mistress vibes and so knew Marco was a boy but as he decided to go in with the look of a girl, she decided to treat him as that and even in that episode where she makes it to his family's home, she continues to treat him as one and also knowing the whole time Marco has a boy's voice, she obviously is smart enough to recognize that and so does the brainwashing on him anyway, it's just entertainment for her and she has fun ruling over him.
Saint Olgas always had a sort of queer coded vibe to it for me like it was a conversion "therapy" camp. even macro's comment on wanting to leave pony head as she was cause he felt like she was "better" felt like it to be honest
That feminine brainwashing especially to Marco was honestly the scariest part and like I would've tried to rush in if I was in the show and try to stop it, probably wouldn't succeed but it would've been worth a shot.
@@Kris-wo4pj what about yonder over wander? It had a whole Dominator arc in the series finale, besides some episodes that conect to other one making a entire timeline for the series
I think they should have keeped the scissors they smuggled in because the that thing mite stop working for whatever reason and they'd know because it would stop glowing
This is off topic of the show but I want to say this, I disagree with what you said about Ariel. She didn't give up her life JUST for a guy. She loved the surface before him he was just the straw that broke the camels back. I mean she had a whole cave collection of human stuff and it didn't help that her father lost it and destroyed all of it.
Is Bonnie a character in SVTFoE? Because if you’re referring to the Bonnibelle from Adventure Time, she’s known as Princess Bubblegum throughout most of the show..? 1:45
Yeah that confused me too, I’m pretty sure the only character who consistently calls princesses bubblegum Bonnie/ Bonnibelle is Marceline. Everyone else called her Princess Bubblegum or PB.
everyone point and laugh at the person who didnt get that ariel always had a fascination with the human world and she only makes the turn to go human once her father destroys all her belongings as an act of rebellion
In the subtitles it said "mushi tried to steal star's face" but if I hadn't been reading them it would've passed by me. Maybe a microphone error or something.
They could of asked pony head how princesses get check out and then reformed her after they got out.they mite have a machine that makes the reforming permanent but they can always go back to plan A
Girl! Ariel ALWAYS dreamed of being in the human world. That’s why the song, “Part of Your World” exists. Eric was just what broke the camel’s back.
I mean she had cave full of human stuff
Funny, Jodie Benson has a cameo in this episode
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I somehow never recognized the symbolism of Heinous' cheek marks reappearing when she saw a butterfly🤯
My favorite episode is "face the music" because how the episode ended with the idea that all the rules, being put on a pedestal, and controlling of being a princess was necessary if not right
I liked the ideas present in that episode too, but I had some problems with the execution. Firstly, Star was unnecessarily mean to the minstrel hired to write and sing her song. He even told her that he wanted to get to know the "real" her shortly after first meeting her, yet she didn't realize that until after her brattiness had him running for the hills in frustration, making her seem stupidly unobservant.
It also seemed like she only resisted the traditional song because it was corny and sugary and wouldn't make her look cool and bad*ss (I understand that it's realistic that a teen would feel that way), despite her complaining about how it hides a queen's real character. It makes me wonder what did she want to convey to the people.
Her actual song itself presented her the same as her introduction in the very first episode did: princess who kicks butt, which is not really any more profound than prissy princess who smiles all the time. It would've been more honest if the writers just had Star say, "What a sissy's song! It makes me sound lame, I want something kewler!!"
Lastly, I don't know why Star suddenly revealed a sensitive government secret in her song in the middle. Was it to show how irresponsible she was or that her family was? IDK how she'd think that it was "right for her."
@@Rosemont104 I makes sense if you think of it in terms of star having a "warts and all" mentality. star likes herself even if herself is at best a disaster and thinks the same is true of her family only for moon to step in and say "No, the people get the fantasy of the perfect queen or they riot"
@@Rosemont104
If Star wanted to reveal that government secret, why not do so AFTER it had been resolved? That's what bothered me about the episode. 😕
Face the music was definitely a fun episode. Also, Patrick Stump. That’s it. Just Patrick Stump
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I'm sick and tired of the Ariel disrespect. She wanted to explore the human world and to be human. She literally sang 'Part of That World' expressing it and is an explorer. Eric is a bonus
Don’t forget her abusive father!
@@eddie-roo Triton wasn't really abusive, more closed minded.
He disagreed with Ariel about going to the surface, but genually loved and cared for her.
He spends the entire movie searching for her and when he finds her, realizing She Is in danger, decides to sacrifice himself to protect her.
By the end he even accepther decision to stay on the surface and grants her legs.
All of his action were all ment to protect her.
@@gianlucacolangelo6578 if destroying her grotto was a "disagreement" to you, I'd hate to see what an argument is in your book.
@UCbUPI6Iek_GVhu4QEwVyUuA exactly, she did what she had to do to survive and was naive because of her compassion and empathy.
Aaaand what did she do after she got her wish? Settled down with a kid and left her adventuring days behind her 😂😂😂
This is the episode that actually made me a fan of the show. Also it is very dark.
Same
The Star/legs under the rug, in the case, at the school are the time line Star that is created when Glosoric removes himself from Stars timeline in the ?Queens room.. Stars tapestry.. Alternate timeline s Star is the deceit shown by Glosoric when he shows her the finished tapestry.. She still has magic coming out of her hand supposedly after destroying the magic.. It's the details..
Interesting...
I remember watching this episode as a kid and thinking it was not scary. It either had to do with I just didn't understand the implications of it or that I was glad that pony head was finally suffering or both.
You probably aren't the only one who's glad ponyhead was suffering she's just super annoying and self-centered.
I'd be excited to see a future video on Toffee and his overall execution (which could be chalked up to a combination of potential thrown away, lazy writing and bad timing, since an Avatar director left the show after Season 2 and Toffee's voice actor was either too busy, too expensive, or had terminal cancer that he somehow survived). As for the reform school, what's interesting is that they do not teach these girls how to rule but only how to look "respectable," and it spends the whole time showing us what conformity looks like but next to nothing on what nonconformity looks like aside from a shallow "destructive goth" image (which is also generic). Nothing substantial like wanting social reform or thinking outside of the box politically, it's either "spoiled brat who misbehaves and breaks things" or "monotonous palace flower." I wish they had an episode about its brother school for princes too. Could've made for a neat compare and contrast regarding royal gender roles. What is also interesting about these princess parodies is that they put forth this nebulous, ahistorical concept of a prissy princess but never really get to the root of the problem: the original three Disney princesses that get mocked today for being too sugary sweet and boring were all the same character - some conservative, midwestern man's "waifu." They were less princesses and more the kind of women that men living through the Great Depression and the second world war wished they could marry. In other words, June Cleavers before there was a June Cleaver.
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"Ariel gave up her life for a man she knew for 5 minutes."
Watch the movie again cause no she didn't.
Yeah, you're right. She gave up her life for a guy she just saved.
@@nyxsmith557
no, she gave up her life to live a human life
Okay will not 5 minutes saving him and then seeing him on a boat and then she decides she's going to go live with him. She didn't even talk to him.
@@Office_chair Eric was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Chances are she still would've gone to Ursula to go to the human world if she never met Eric.
@@nyxsmith557 she escaped her abusive father to pursue her passions.
That episode reminded me so much of the Phineas and Ferb one that ends up being a dream
This episode slightly reminds me of the asylum a musical about a girl sent to a place similar.
I feel like I'm being a bit nitpicky here but u said you're self that a pilot is usually over crammed and not the best look at what a series has to offer so I don't think it comparable to even vaguely compare Saint Olga's school to Reality check summer camp especially considering were never given a complete look at how the summer camp operates.
The thing about Ariel is kind of true she did always want to go to the human world but remember she fell in love with a guy she saved and just see on a boat. AND DECIDE SHE'S GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM.
Her father has a weapon of mass destruction and he showed her he won’t hesitate on using it against her to keep her in line.
She escaped an abusive household to pursue her passions, the prince was just a bonus.
@@eddie-roo yeah sort of I would say he was abusive but still she went and lived with a guy she only knew for like 2 minutes. But then again this is Disney.
@@Office_chair where else would she could have gone?
The only scary thing about this show is the piss poor ending.
Meh could be worse
I won’t accept accept Ariel slander.
She had a passion for the surface world way before Eric, then she developed a crush and her abusive father destroyed all of her stuff in front of her.
She was escaping an abusive relationship to follow her passions.
Stop victim blaming Ariel and Cinderella, people!
Noooooo Disney wrote woman who just want man and nothig else rreeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE
The flashback of Heinous looking in the mirror and hiding her tail is what made me love the potential that her character had
What a great analysis of the episode, I kind of have forgotten about Star vs. first season. Also loved your editing style, keep up the great work
OKAY OKAY I KNOW THAT THE VIDEO CAME OUT 6 MONTHS AGO BUT I WAS WATCHING IT WITH SUBTITLES AND JUST READ THEM AT 8:10-8:15 omg
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Luz's mother is abusive, but mildly and unintentionally. She's just panicking because her daughter was on a bad path in life and kept acting impulsively (which is where Luz gets her impulsiveness) to try to get Luz to act more socially acceptable and figure something realistic for her future, she doesn't listen to what Luz wants when they first talk after Luz had been to the Isles, and wanted to forcibly "normalize" her, abuse is always abuse regardless of intention and everyone does it from time to time and in most cases probably have abusive habits or beliefs, the best you get in life is recognizing your behavior is wrong and just trying to be better.
I hope there's a Janna Ordonia video in the future
Also about that woman in charge, she gives me mistress vibes and so knew Marco was a boy but as he decided to go in with the look of a girl, she decided to treat him as that and even in that episode where she makes it to his family's home, she continues to treat him as one and also knowing the whole time Marco has a boy's voice, she obviously is smart enough to recognize that and so does the brainwashing on him anyway, it's just entertainment for her and she has fun ruling over him.
Saint Olgas always had a sort of queer coded vibe to it for me like it was a conversion "therapy" camp. even macro's comment on wanting to leave pony head as she was cause he felt like she was "better" felt like it to be honest
One of my favorite episodes, certainly. Loved it. I'm agreeing with your opinions here.
4:37 I think it was star fan 13
That feminine brainwashing especially to Marco was honestly the scariest part and like I would've tried to rush in if I was in the show and try to stop it, probably wouldn't succeed but it would've been worth a shot.
And then The Owl House is "not fit for the brand"
apparently the owl house was for the disney channel which means no overarching plots. thats what they meant atleast thats what dana terrace said.
@@Kris-wo4pj what about yonder over wander? It had a whole Dominator arc in the series finale, besides some episodes that conect to other one making a entire timeline for the series
@@Kris-wo4pj what about Gravity Falls?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 it had a plot but had a bit of slice of life element to balance it out
That decision was made by only ONE Disney exc
I think they should have keeped the scissors they smuggled in because the that thing mite stop working for whatever reason and they'd know because it would stop glowing
Is a creepy episode, and is my favorite in the serie 😄
This is off topic of the show but I want to say this, I disagree with what you said about Ariel. She didn't give up her life JUST for a guy. She loved the surface before him he was just the straw that broke the camels back. I mean she had a whole cave collection of human stuff and it didn't help that her father lost it and destroyed all of it.
Thank you Jessica Walter
04:36 I thought it was just Star and she cloned herself
Is Bonnie a character in SVTFoE? Because if you’re referring to the Bonnibelle from Adventure Time, she’s known as Princess Bubblegum throughout most of the show..? 1:45
Yeah that confused me too, I’m pretty sure the only character who consistently calls princesses bubblegum Bonnie/ Bonnibelle is Marceline. Everyone else called her Princess Bubblegum or PB.
Wait... BUBBLEGUM ISN'T HER ACTUAL NAME?!?!
@@corundumkrabble5035 it is, her first name is just Bonnibelle
@@table2.0 Oh ok
everyone point and laugh at the person who didnt get that ariel always had a fascination with the human world and she only makes the turn to go human once her father destroys all her belongings as an act of rebellion
THE HORSE SOUNDS KINDA LIKE JINX FROM ARCANE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS
“Until [Pony Head] tried to steal [Star’s] face.” Uh. No? Pony Head never hurt Star…let alone tried to steal her face.
I think she was referring to the princess that ate the bird. She was in an earlier episode where she tried to do that.
In the subtitles it said "mushi tried to steal star's face" but if I hadn't been reading them it would've passed by me. Maybe a microphone error or something.
They could of asked pony head how princesses get check out and then reformed her after they got out.they mite have a machine that makes the reforming permanent but they can always go back to plan A
omg this was the first episode I've seen
I love the premiere
I still think one of the scariest episodes was the one where Glossaryk returns
This episode is basically just _A Clockwork Orange, For Kids!!_ ...😀😃😄😁😅🙂🥲😵💫😬😨😱.
WHY DO THE ST.OLGA'S EPISODE?! WHY?!!!!!!
The second episode say The Owl house pilot Luz almost getting killed because her obsession so they make it clear she has a problem
Where did they get Cerberus from?
Mewberty was creepy like it was super cringy and creepy how obsessed about boys she was.
Ponyhead is the best chaotic friend you could have or wish to have.
To me she is better than Jenna or Jackie.
I don't wish to have her, she was very annoying
WHY DO THE ST.OLGA'S EPISODE?! WHY?!!!!!!