I discussed both the fogging and the photochromic issues, as they were problematic. However, these are challenges that can occur even with high-end glasses. The real issue was the sun flare and glare, which my cheap cycling glasses struggled with. This ultimately made it difficult for me to see properly. I take full responsibility for my decision to wear those glasses that day-I’m simply sharing my experience in the hope that it helps someone else avoid a similar situation.
I live in a humid climate. I use anti-fog before every ride and it eliminates the fogging problem. The anti-fog solution is very easy to DIY, 50/50 water/alcohol with a few drops of dish soap. Expensive glasses won't save you from fogging.
@@titomon A little bit of both. Just spray it on your lenses and wipe it off with a clean microfiber cloth. I think a tiny bit of soap is left on the lens which reduces fogging.
The problem isn't the cheap glasses, it is the tint type. I do endurance cycling where I need to carry one set for whole continents, but I also used to be a ski instructor/competitive downhill skier where we go in the underwoods a lot and the light/shadow cycles are really fast. Photochromics are just too slow for those situations. There are tints like yellow and orange (much lighter than your dark amber Oakleys) that will shield enough of the light when you are in the sun so that you will not be blinded, but in low light will actually improve visibility (some types will even sharpen the edges a bit, those tend to look iridescent when you look at the lens sideways from outside). Give those a try ! Glad you are okay ! Cheers, Louis-Eric Simard TransCanada Ultra
@@louis-ericsimard7659 Ultimately it’s the lens flare that is at the root cause of the crash, not necessary the photochromic. Maybe highend photochromic lens would have perform the same, but with surely with less flare/glare. Good call on lighter tints
I noticed the bumb right away. I got the same thing on my right shoulder. I didn't even bother seeing my doctor, when I showed him what happened he told me about the surgery... I'm not going to bother. In the 13 years since this happened, i only felt it once (maybe twice) and that's when I had a flu/cold where I was so weak that it would have killed me if I were 90 years old. P.S. you're still pretty. 😀
Now I don't know because you didn't say, but I am guessing those glasses went grey when they went dark. I see loads of folks riding in grey lenses. DON'T. Grey lenses impair contrast. Always choose a yellow based colour like brown, or indeed yellow because they enhance contrast. Might give you that split second more response time.
I switched from wearing contacts and cycling glasses to wearing prescription sunglasses that rise high enough over the eyebrow (wayfarer style). The main advantage is that I don't have to fumble anymore with contacts for a bike ride. Second, is that over a long day, your eyes are better oxygenated since they are not behind contacts, since they are not wrap around style, the airflow is much better and there's little or no fogging. Third, is that you can take another pair of glasses with you for dark riding or driving. Finally, because the glasses are adjusted to your prescription and the tint is the way you like it, vision is excellent, and certainly way better than having a Rx insert in an cycling glass, since the field of view is large and there's no reflections inside. But there are still some advantages to contacts, namely that if it is very muddy, you can remove the sunglass and still see. The main disadvantage I find with photochromic is that many of them are activated by UV light, and when the sun is at a low angle, shining into your face, it is at dawn or dusk, when the UV is relatively low. So they don't darken enough.
I've had the issue of photochromatic lenses not being good in forest areas - on cheap sunnies, mind you. When the sunlight is constant, they're fine. But once the light starts flickering through the trees, the glare gets quite bad and you definitely start missing details in terrain.
@BananaChipzzz I wouldn't be gunning it with 50 km and foggy glasses down hill. I'm an expert for crashing at slow speeds already on the MTB downhill while breaking!
my brother had the same injury from playing rugby over a decade ago, he had surgury but it didn't really work, his bone is a lower than your's but not by a whole lot, but he's built up more muscle since and that's made it less noticable. glad you weren't too badly hurt.
I use photochomatic prescription glasses and they work really well they don't fog up unless I'm wearing a mask. I use them from bright sunshine to the night. BTW they are from a company that also sells helmets. Sorry for your crash it sounds and looks horrible Im glad you were not more seriuosly and that the Health care system worked for you. I had a similar experience with the Health Care system in Alberta and it was quick and effective. "NTP"
I totally agree. I had a crash similar to yours. Never saw the trench. I rode the front wheel straight into a metal fence. Lucky to have no serious injuries. I'm buying quality sun glasses for next year
I’m sorry to hear about your accident but welcome to the club about the shoulder 😂 I don’t know if I agree with the fact that it’s because it’s cheap glasses. Personally I have also had problems with expensive photochromic glasses. The problem is that they aren’t changing fast enough between dark and light, so sometimes it’s better just to ride with clear lenses.
Glad you're ok now. I was waiting for your duathlon progressions, then I saw your accident on Strava :( Descents are very dangerous. There were a lot of horrible accidents this year.
Get in contact with the folks at lockdown procedure, they will give you names of surgeons in or around your area that performs their technique to fix ac joints.
Damn. With that shoulder. Stick to road racing! And yes, to your point wear only personally proven trusted and true gear including glasses. Thanks for sharing.
QUOI!?!?!? ça existe des lunettes qui ne "fog" pas. Peut-être qu'en route ça ne t'étais jamais arrivé, mais encore, sous la pluie, ça fini toujours par s'embrumer, non? Je suis un mountain biker et j'en ai eu des lunettes depuis 25 ans, et il arrives plein de conditions où les lunettes s'embue peu importe le prix payé.
La bué était un problème, l'autre était l'énorme lens flare. Via les mêmes routes les deux autres journées, même conditions et même température, aucun problème de visibilité avec les Katos.
Having watching your channel for a while this is quite poor to be blaming the glasses, yes they may not have had the same quality of air flow as your Oakley however knowing that the decent every ride was warned of(i presume for similar crashes in the past) and that the light had been where it was giving the glare on the ones you were wearing this could have easily happened with the Oakley’s(given they struggle with glare and how the eye reacts) the accident still could have happened with the oakleys - given the warning in the brief about the decent and wearing a pair of glasses that you weren’t familiar with in how they react to the outdoors in the conditions that you were going through - this is just an accident and not a fault of the glasses
I discussed both the fogging and the photochromic issues, as they were problematic. However, these are challenges that can occur even with high-end glasses. The real issue was the sun flare and glare, which my cheap cycling glasses struggled with. This ultimately made it difficult for me to see properly. I take full responsibility for my decision to wear those glasses that day-I’m simply sharing my experience in the hope that it helps someone else avoid a similar situation.
Tabarnak!
I live in a humid climate. I use anti-fog before every ride and it eliminates the fogging problem. The anti-fog solution is very easy to DIY, 50/50 water/alcohol with a few drops of dish soap. Expensive glasses won't save you from fogging.
Fog was an issue, the lens flare was the other one. Thanks for sharing the DIY
Thanks for the DIY solution! Is this what you wash your glasses with? Or is it something you apply as a coating?
@@titomon A little bit of both. Just spray it on your lenses and wipe it off with a clean microfiber cloth. I think a tiny bit of soap is left on the lens which reduces fogging.
@ thanks! I will try this!
The problem isn't the cheap glasses, it is the tint type. I do endurance cycling where I need to carry one set for whole continents, but I also used to be a ski instructor/competitive downhill skier where we go in the underwoods a lot and the light/shadow cycles are really fast. Photochromics are just too slow for those situations. There are tints like yellow and orange (much lighter than your dark amber Oakleys) that will shield enough of the light when you are in the sun so that you will not be blinded, but in low light will actually improve visibility (some types will even sharpen the edges a bit, those tend to look iridescent when you look at the lens sideways from outside). Give those a try !
Glad you are okay !
Cheers,
Louis-Eric Simard
TransCanada Ultra
Yeah, user error, but blaming the glasses. 🤷♂
Yeah I crashed from having super poor trail visibility around sunrise a few years ago I was just too lazy to take off my glasses.
@@louis-ericsimard7659 Ultimately it’s the lens flare that is at the root cause of the crash, not necessary the photochromic. Maybe highend photochromic lens would have perform the same, but with surely with less flare/glare. Good call on lighter tints
I noticed the bumb right away.
I got the same thing on my right shoulder. I didn't even bother seeing my doctor, when I showed him what happened he told me about the surgery... I'm not going to bother.
In the 13 years since this happened, i only felt it once (maybe twice) and that's when I had a flu/cold where I was so weak that it would have killed me if I were 90 years old.
P.S. you're still pretty. 😀
Now I don't know because you didn't say, but I am guessing those glasses went grey when they went dark. I see loads of folks riding in grey lenses. DON'T. Grey lenses impair contrast. Always choose a yellow based colour like brown, or indeed yellow because they enhance contrast. Might give you that split second more response time.
Surely went gray and totaly reduced contrast. Paired with a sun and a big lens flare. BLINDED
I switched from wearing contacts and cycling glasses to wearing prescription sunglasses that rise high enough over the eyebrow (wayfarer style). The main advantage is that I don't have to fumble anymore with contacts for a bike ride. Second, is that over a long day, your eyes are better oxygenated since they are not behind contacts, since they are not wrap around style, the airflow is much better and there's little or no fogging. Third, is that you can take another pair of glasses with you for dark riding or driving. Finally, because the glasses are adjusted to your prescription and the tint is the way you like it, vision is excellent, and certainly way better than having a Rx insert in an cycling glass, since the field of view is large and there's no reflections inside.
But there are still some advantages to contacts, namely that if it is very muddy, you can remove the sunglass and still see. The main disadvantage I find with photochromic is that many of them are activated by UV light, and when the sun is at a low angle, shining into your face, it is at dawn or dusk, when the UV is relatively low. So they don't darken enough.
Hmm ! a helmet company also selling glasses !
POC
I've had the issue of photochromatic lenses not being good in forest areas - on cheap sunnies, mind you. When the sunlight is constant, they're fine. But once the light starts flickering through the trees, the glare gets quite bad and you definitely start missing details in terrain.
Exactly! Thanks for sharing
I don't like budget glasses anymore really, not really because the fog but more for the fitment and overall quality feel.
Yeah exactly!
Why not take off the glasses? 😢
@BananaChipzzz I wouldn't be gunning it with 50 km and foggy glasses down hill. I'm an expert for crashing at slow speeds already on the MTB downhill while breaking!
the brand is limar
narrow bars bad for gravel riding. bike becomes more nervous. i know multiple riders who crashed due to upgrading their rides to 36 wide bars.
my brother had the same injury from playing rugby over a decade ago, he had surgury but it didn't really work, his bone is a lower than your's but not by a whole lot, but he's built up more muscle since and that's made it less noticable. glad you weren't too badly hurt.
Thanks for sharing man
@ no worries. Thanks for the content you’ve made over the years
I use photochomatic prescription glasses and they work really well they don't fog up unless I'm wearing a mask. I use them from bright sunshine to the night. BTW they are from a company that also sells helmets. Sorry for your crash it sounds and looks horrible Im glad you were not more seriuosly and that the Health care system worked for you. I had a similar experience with the Health Care system in Alberta and it was quick and effective. "NTP"
I totally agree. I had a crash similar to yours. Never saw the trench. I rode the front wheel straight into a metal fence. Lucky to have no serious injuries. I'm buying quality sun glasses for next year
Damn!!! Great call
I’m sorry to hear about your accident but welcome to the club about the shoulder 😂
I don’t know if I agree with the fact that it’s because it’s cheap glasses. Personally I have also had problems with expensive photochromic glasses. The problem is that they aren’t changing fast enough between dark and light, so sometimes it’s better just to ride with clear lenses.
Yeah they don't adapt fast enough, but the problem with the glasses was the flare/glare ultimately
Glad you're ok now. I was waiting for your duathlon progressions, then I saw your accident on Strava :(
Descents are very dangerous. There were a lot of horrible accidents this year.
I'll get back on the Duathlon journey.... one day ahah
Get in contact with the folks at lockdown procedure, they will give you names of surgeons in or around your area that performs their technique to fix ac joints.
Quick question : how do we find the discount code for the Cycplus Pump?
code 'charlesouimet10' !!
A waterboard? Was this race in an al qaeda training camp?
Please tell us the glasses model. This seems dangerous as some people may be using them without knowing the risks
you can call the "waterboard" a deac it stands for deactivated (road) sounds better with your accent.
Thanks mate
Damn. With that shoulder. Stick to road racing! And yes, to your point wear only personally proven trusted and true gear including glasses. Thanks for sharing.
QUOI!?!?!? ça existe des lunettes qui ne "fog" pas. Peut-être qu'en route ça ne t'étais jamais arrivé, mais encore, sous la pluie, ça fini toujours par s'embrumer, non? Je suis un mountain biker et j'en ai eu des lunettes depuis 25 ans, et il arrives plein de conditions où les lunettes s'embue peu importe le prix payé.
La bué était un problème, l'autre était l'énorme lens flare. Via les mêmes routes les deux autres journées, même conditions et même température, aucun problème de visibilité avec les Katos.
Having watching your channel for a while this is quite poor to be blaming the glasses, yes they may not have had the same quality of air flow as your Oakley however knowing that the decent every ride was warned of(i presume for similar crashes in the past) and that the light had been where it was giving the glare on the ones you were wearing this could have easily happened with the Oakley’s(given they struggle with glare and how the eye reacts) the accident still could have happened with the oakleys - given the warning in the brief about the decent and wearing a pair of glasses that you weren’t familiar with in how they react to the outdoors in the conditions that you were going through - this is just an accident and not a fault of the glasses
so click baity. do better Charles.
I'm just sharing a story here...
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