I recall, about 20 years ago, an experiment showed that a photon beam projected through super-cooled cesium gas had the same result; it appeared that the photons were exiting the gas BEFORE they entered.
I've had this long-running suspicion that the quantum realm is strange to us because we are flooded with so much information in the macro world, we default to thinking everything is continuous. But in the particle realm interactions are infrequent, and information about the exact position and velocities can only ever be approximate because the particles never experience the whole picture, and never can. Wave mechanics is then just a very good mathematical tool that fits that behaviour.
psst. there is consciousness layer orchestrating choices and dataflow in matrerial world. data flow can come from the future. while no action is not taken, future is already visible. You have to see it to believe it, you live in EvilSimu(TM). Currently we play under ultra hardcore level. We have spells, distractions, false knowledge, falsescience, destroyed preconception organs.
If we were to look at this as classical physics, we'd have a moving charge with an electric field capable of causing all sorts of effects before the particle itself arrives..
Here I read "negative time" as a Heisenberg uncertainty phenomenon; where the energy used for emission from a corresponding absorption is "borrowed" in advance of that absorption from elsewhere in the quantum field... which I guess requires there to be more than one photon in the system at a time so they can participate in that "borrowing."
This is similar to how a stock brokerage handles short selling. If you want to sell short, the brokerage will borrow those shares from other customers' accounts or the firm's own holdings. Then when you close out your short position, the shares are restored. I wonder what an infinitely rising price on a shorted stock looks like in the quantum world. Explosive, I'd think.
The paper is very explicit about this being a negative group delay, ie a statistical / wave-like phenomenon, so I think you're on to something as for an event / particle-like explanation.
I often wonder how much of this is just weird semantics, like, technically the data set can be "massaged" to produce a negative value for time in the results of this experiment, but really is just a anectode-level "interesting fact" that does not have any impact in the real interpretation of reality. I don't really know, I'm not a physicist by any means, but I'm skeptical of these "findings" that are too far out there in the clickbait realm, or even those that are building too much on top of metaphors (like the "spin" of a particle) which to me just mean someone tried too hard to explain something and could not figure out the language for it. You did a great job covering the subject though!
Your stance is not scientific, real science isn't afraid to dump all precious "facts" for new more factual facts, you should not be in science you have a bias based upon old information and old concensus, your ego blocks true new scientific discovery
I do understand your skepticism. I am not a physicist either (though I sometimes pretend to be in my daydreams). Trying to figure out things that we don’t have the language for is a huge part of what science is. Of course spin is a metaphor but it does represent a real phenomena that they are attempting to describe and understand. Our brains have evolved to find where the food is, try not to get killed, and find a mate and we are using them to attempt to understand what is going on around us because we just figured out that we know basically nothing. The study is a solid effort, I think, but I get your point.
It's good to be skeptical, but each time we try to rationally explain these problems, we always end up more confused. Skeptics have all the theories but, never, and I mean "NEVER" have been vindicated by reality. By the track record of quantum strangeness, this is probably not a case of data being "massaged", instead evidence of more mind bending crud that skeptics are going to choke on for the next few decades. Just face it, skeptics have no clue what's going on either.
This "negative time" concept seems more like an indication of something science at this point has not understood well yet, rather than anything that is actually consistent with what the phrase "negative time" would seem to suggest. Seems like a way to drive attention rather than describe accurately.
I feel like this is behind the entirety of quantum mechanics. Sure, we have models that work most of the time, but we have no idea what's really going on, and when we say things like a particle being in two places at the same time and what not, it's only a reflection of how little we actually know.
@@zualapips1638 Yes, quantum mechanics is clearly not something fully understood. But it's not the same as something like the term "negative time" being used in a research paper. Quantum mechanics is a whole realm of information, and not just a research paper making up terms just to get attention.
@@zualapips1638 Particles being "in two places at the same time" is pop-sci BS. Physicists understand that that claim is interpretation dependent i.e. it's essentially stating an _opinion_ about what the mathematics is telling us rather than a result from the _physical_ world (or at least they _should_ know that :). Put it this way, every time we _measure_ where a particle is, it's in _one_ place :). What happens the rest of the time _necessarily_ involves some speculation. (quantum mechanics is already "weird" enough without _creating_ weirdness but poorly written pop-sci books, TH-cam videos by careless science communicators etc. can't seem to help themselves)
So, remember hearing about a time variant of the double slit experiment. As in the slits are separated by time not space. And there was interference that suggested photons' probability wave function also had a time component and exist a little forward and backwards in time
This might sound a little strange but it seems to me they've created a kind of quantum crystal where the driven transition phase led to negative group velocity via the measurement beam and the Kerr effect. The whole thing was at 60 micro Kelvin so I can see how that could happen
First, thanks for doing your best to explain these things to those of us that don't have the education or knowledge to understand the papers ourselves. Second this is neat. Third, this sounds exactly like the kind of research that gets picked up and hyped by the media without any actual understanding from the press as to what's actually being researched or claimed
@@nicodesmidt4034 It happens for those who are comfortably speaking two or more languages and want all videos in these languages displayed or played in their original language rather than auto-translated and/or auto-dubbed into whatever you set in your google account settings.
Google/TH-cam seems to assume that people can only speak one language. Obviously, you can prevent this behavior by signing out of your google account, but that's probably not an option, if you just want to watch your favorite channels.
This is an amazing group of researchers that managed to pull off this experiment. No small feat. I have a comment much like the "semantic" comment below. The researchers have assumed a photon excites an electron to a certain degree, then it leaves the electron. A fairly macro-mechanical explanation. They have really disproved this mechanical assumption; and broadly revealed that a lot more going on energetically at this level.
Is great! And i think another step on understanding that yes, in fact, the cuantum reality is, in fact, probabilistic in escence. And of course, a little bit crazy
It sounds to that this may be a problem of how they are detecting the excitation of the rubidium atoms. Their sensors also needs time to detect the excitation and respond to it. This is similar to the reason you see a jet plane before you hear the sonic boom. You experience negative time of the sonic boom.
Propagation delay of sound is not the same thing as photons "exceeding" the speed of light in a vacuum. Prior experiments 25 years ago produced this same superluminal speed. The assumption is that light itself cannot exceed C (in a vacuum), but the information about the nudge or excitation of ions could exceed C in a cascade through the chamber, but the information had to arrive in a state that made it somehow ambiguous to prevent breaking of causality. I'm curious though, if some information could actually be sent with some sort of error detection encoding ala what is being done with quantum computing? We already know that "information" somehow exceeds C with spooky action at a distance with quantum entangled twins.
@@dohabandit You misjudge two different things. Remember we are trying to observe two effects here. Photons that interacted with the rubidium atoms and the excitation of the rubidium atoms. The negative time may be an artifact of the sensors SIMILAR to the sonic boom where our eyes detect differently from our ears. I am not saying that it is EXACTLY the same as the sonic boom phenomena.
@@pulsar22 Read the paper from 2000 about the cesium ion vapor light amplifier. It's essentially the same experiment, just using cesium instead. The cascade effect of the incident laser exceeded c and left the exit before having fully entered the chamber, going back in time.
7:55 basically the question was answered before it was asked, happens sometimes when the relative shares differences with another. It may not have to fully entangle or because it’s getting close to becoming, the answer could come first. I hope that makes sense. Like, imagine lightning and how it goes towards the ground and then the ground finishes the connection and the bolt becomes by linking the roads. Maybe that visual will make it easier to understand. When the answer or action is closer to happening, maybe the action can come before the cause like by context or the surrounding. It’s not conscious of the surroundings but reflecting and the small differences could knock it into coherence kinda like noise making fall into decoherence. Maybe there’s some noise relative between the two and even though they aren’t fully connected, the relatives share the difference. Idk what or how but that’s the best i can think of right now.
Having very minimal expertise in this area im going to give my idea of what's going on. I think this is a physical manifestation of Feynmann path integrals. The idea that to ascertain the trajectory of a quantum object you integrate over multiple (infinitely so) potential paths. Perhaps these paths don't just have to be spatial but rather follow a more general notion of spacetime. Perhaps the contributions of photons and atoms interacting slightly ahead of time is non zero or rather not perfectly cancelled out for reasons i can't elucidate right now. This whole thing reminds me of a paper out of Imperial about a year back where photons we're seemingly interfering with themselves temporally as opposed to spatially in a temporal double slit experiment. I think googling "temporal double slit experiment imperial" will bring that paper up. That experiment would also loosely fit this narrative im trying to set up. Anyway I know my idea is almost certainly wrong. But its fun to think about and any pedagogic corrections are mucho welcome.
Regarding the photo interacting temporally with its self what do you mean by that? For example is it somewhat like in it's moments of observation it moves relative to it's prior point being 0 rather than the predicable path of it's spacial trajectory of its journey from true 0 to where it's at and is predicted to go? Much looking forward to your thoughts on this!
@Anyon-z2s I am referencing an experiment done by Imperial College London in 2023 where they performed a little twist on the "standard" double slit experiment. In the standard (or spatial) double slit experiment photons passing through one of two slits that are very close to each other will seemingly interfere with a version of themselves that went through the other slit. This is often interpreted as the "wave" nature of light as the interference (or interaction as I referred to it in my previous comment) is consistent with a wave going through both slits at the same time. The group out of Imperial did some very impressive things with materials, and honestly most of what they did goes way over my head, but basically they set up a situation where the wave nature of light is investigated along the temporal dimension as opposed to the spatial dimension that the standard double slit experiment deals with. They did this with super fast acting electro-activated materials that switch a material from transmissive to reflective quickly enough and timed well enough to create a situation in which light is reflected in one instance and passes through the material a truly minuscule fraction of second later. This creates a "temporal" double slit where a photon goes through in one instance of time but not in the other. As with the spatial double slit where an interference pattern is seen so to is one seen in the temporal variant. Although they manifest in different ways. In the spatial double slit, the pattern we measure is consistent with 2 separate waves that originate at the end of each slit interfering with each other. In the temporal double slit the pattern we measure is instead consistent with 2 separate waves with different frequencies interfering with each other. The frequency of light dictates its color and indeed the result the team from Imperial found was that there was chromatic interference in the observed light measured after the "temporal" double slit. Apologies if my explanation isn't that good. It's not my area of expertise (I'm more of a plasma physicist) but I find the stuff insanely fascinating. If you would like to read more about it you can google "imperial temporal double slit" and there should be stuff associated with Imperial College London that comes up and even videos, including one from Anton Petrov published over a year ago.
@hahahasan your explanation was amazing and your elaboration on the topic was very concise. However I'm aware of the experiments aforementioned and others In the field. One of such being the. Elitzur Vaidman bomb experiment and it's modern iterations. Ive noticed a trend in these experiments is a matter of locality and non locality relative to seemingly independent microstates being co dependent relative to the Macrostate product. So I'm more so interested in the theory of the mechanism and mathematics. Never the less your explanation was good, I just happen to find the topics discussion rather reductionist forward and secularly utilised. Also I have a interest in plasma physics I would love to discuss some ideas and hypotheses with you if you'd be willing to lend an ear! Looking forward to your thoughts!
@Anyon-z2s The quantum bomb experiment is super weird. Probably the best show of how weird the quantum world is. I'm honestly not sure what to make of it. Just thinking aloud... we can describe particles interfering with themselves when they are in a superposition but we can never directly observe a superposed state. Any direct measurement of course leads to wavefunction collapse and a single measured state. The quantum bomb is really interesting because its existence in a mach-zehnder interferometer actually messes up the photons self interference.... yeah im thinking out loud and coming up with nothing. It's super weird. What's your thoughts on the matter? Also whats your thoughts regarding plasma physics? I should note I don't quite understand your line "Ive noticed a trend in these experiments is a matter of locality and non locality relative to seemingly independent microstates being co dependent relative to the Macrostate product." Not sure how to address this.
Try not to 'assume' that time itself is anisotropic or only mediated by one particle/force... Not having found these yet, there's no reason to assume its be such a 'flat' phenomenon. It could very well be very composite
This may be an oversimplification, but even though photons being massless is already quite counterintuitive, I think of it like a water wave, where energy can be transferred, but not mass. If it interacts in space, then relativistically, it is also participating in time.
You can think of this as a type of decay; they happen at different rates. It also depends on the energy levels, as new energy entering a system on a large scale can have immediate effects, which might seem like negative time. This all depends on the scale you are looking at (time scale, space scale).
This fits (somewhat) into something I've thought about now and again. The scifi trope of traveling at the speed of light. Besides the energy/mass impossibility of any physical object traveling at the speed of light, but there would also be an impossibility of navigating anywhere if you could. Time slows as you approach the speed of light until, at the speed of light, time is meaningless and doesn't move or change at all. From a photon's perspective, travel from pount A to point B, ANY distance, would occur with zero time passage. In other words, to a photo, ANY distance traveled would be instantaneous. How could you hope to take a vehicle from Earth to, say, the center of the galaxy (~25,000 light years away) when you could not control the travel time because it would be instantaneous TO YOU. Say you can accelerate to the speed of light but from Earth to the point at which your ship actually hits the speed of light puts you out near Pluto. From that point when you hit the speed of light until you get to the center of the galaxy would be instantaneous. How do you time it so you can start deceleration from lightspeed to something more normal? It's not like you can have an on-ship timer that counts half a second of time before deceleration starts. There is no half second. You are near Pluyo and then, instantly, you are in the center of the galaxy. Or passing into the Andromeda galaxy. Or out near the Great Attractor. In all cases your local travel time to ANYWHERE is instant. Quite the pickle for a scifi author to get around.
Well, the speed of light is not infinite, so it should be possible to have external stationary apparatus in place to perform the movement of your ship, including stopping and starting correctly. After all, we can stop and start actual light. I agree that it wouldn't really be a thing that could happen in the instance of non-time experienced by the traveler. Now, if you're traveling "near" the speed of light, instead, you would have some tiny amount of time to react in that scenario, I expect.
As much as I enjoy the FTL trope in sci-fi, I look forward to content creators exploring other avenues of interstellar travel. Not "wormholes" or quasi-religious space folding BS in the Dune universe. *SOMETHING ELSE*
In star wars lore throns civilization grew to be able to navigate hyper space jumps by instinctly predicting where to jump out of hyper space thru there connection with the force, however in real life I feel you would have to predict accurately the planets obrit, any objects close by like, stars or quasars just to avoid.
@@keithwinget6521 The problem for your external solution is it has to be at the destination. That means you first had to send it there at a sunlight speed which means it took hundreds of many many thousands of years to get there. Only then could you send light speed craft to those places - no going to new locations and exploring.
One practical way to use this is as a virtual randomizer for a quantum computing system. You can use the unpredictability of these events and how the quantum negative time effects work to increase a system's randomization by emulating unpredictable events. This could also be used within the same environment with the presence of an AGI to make it more "realistic" to humans since humans can be somewhat unpredictable, you'd want the AGI to emulate this, therefore, it doesn't just bee-line in its progression or development, giving probability a chance to be an obstacle.
I love the comments, thoughtful crowd here. I'm thinking along the lines of scalar magnetic entanglement. I postulated that we live on an event horizon of 'now' and that nested magnetic fields have scalar coherence from distant to sub-atomic. Sort of a photon wiggle where the crest is above the event horizon of now, and the trough is below the event horizon of now. This might explain spooky action, pre-emission, and other pre-causality... It is all just an extra-dimensional entanglement. The future is coming from the very small, from inside. The further away, the more-than-light-speed it would take to ever catch up. Time explodes away from us faster than we can ever catch up to it.
it is actually somewhat intuitive unlike almost anything else in quantum if you shoot a metal ball into a weight attached to a spring, it will take time for a spring to contract slowing the ball, then accelerating it back, then the spring will oscillate, shoot another ball when the spring goes up oscillating, and it will be sent back faster than the first one.
I love you videos . I have learned alot i have been a subscriber for years but I didn't understand any of this but I love the way you break it down so us regular people can try to understand 😂
I've been waiting for you to cover this one. I tried to sort it out before and was very, very confused. Now I'm merely very confused. So... not time travel, but... causality violation? Except not? Is the idea that the actual excitation of the electron is separated from the absoprtion/emitting; so the photon is absorbed, then emitted, then the electron enters an excited state? Kind of like when someone slaps you but you don't feel it and react until a second or two later? I think I've exhausted my allotment of question marks.
No causality violation, because the tiny delay observed on this level can't be used to send a message or action itself backward in time. The measurements themselves collapse the wave functions anyway
Cz-záporný čas je dobrá stopa cestování světelnou rychlostí neboť celý vesmír se téměř touto rychlostí pohybuje. Stačí změnit lom mezi 2 stavy hmoty a svezeme se téměř rychlostí světla ovšem jen do minulosti a daleko od bodu ze kterého jsme vzešli s naší temnou nebo baryonovou hmotou. Pouze čistá informace(energie v čase) se může velmi blížit současnosti.
I can’t agree with that. Time dilation affects rates, but the rates are just ratios between different states (high vs low gravity, high vs low velocity). It’s always above zero. Time dilation doesn’t add or subtract, it expands or compresses, so it’s always above zero.
@DCDevTanelorn it can be negative if the observer is also time dilated, and the thing being observed is less so, relatively speaking. the math is clear on that.
I have no background in mathematics so I'm just talking nonsense, but it seems to me like if spacetime can be "shared" via quantum entanglement, then wouldn't matter be brought along for the ride? I would have to investigate the subject more, but if atoms are superpositioned, do the first or the second(etc.) or all locations experience the mass of the entangled group? If it is always split among the locations in a "normal" sort of way, then it would be a no-go, but if one location can retain more mass than another location (sort of borrowed? from the other members of the entangled group), then wouldn't at least one location appear to have negative mass in a similar way as the study suggests time can have?
I formed the opinion while at college studying psychology that electrons and other particles must be extended in time as well as in space. If it were not the case it would be very difficult to understand how we have any perception of time at all (and therefore no perceptions at all). Reality and consciousness cannot exist without this principle being true.
That happens because those electrons are entangled with electron of another universe on which the atom was already excited. This makes the electrons in our universe have the premonition and act instants before their atom be afected here.
If sperm mitochandria doesn't have DNA the only way that guy could have paternal mitochondria is if he's a human clone . Cloning requires host mitochondria
Well, it's been known for a long time that most light flowing through a medium don't interact with the atoms of that medium, they pass through undisturbed, and it's the electromagnetic field of that medium that actually slows down that light while it passes through. If the light passes through and gets slowed down by the EM field, then the EM field itself will feel the momentum of that light and that would cause the atoms of the medium to get disturbed and give off their own light. So no matter what, a photon of light will always pass through a medium faster than the medium itself, even if the photon is slowed by the medium. So it should be no surprise that these outside photons will pass through before the medium itself gets disturbed and emits its own light.
To me, I believe it shows there's entities, beings, types of life, there's the type we know about- bacteria, cells.. living in our body and they're having an experience and now we know there's entities experiencing our lives on the sideline, experiencing our same time in reverse. It's whatever. We're all having a good time.
This could be a plausible cause for Deja Vu. I have personally experienced extreme deja vu multiple times, where I knew exactly where a conversation was going and event which transpired for up to a couple hours. Maybe memories can travel backwards in time due to the quantume universe. Something worth looking into.
I would argue that there's a second very unusual result coming out of that study: Someone can be a top quantum physics researcher AND quite good looking (@2:44). Ground-breaking, that
This topic all relates to the new and various versions of time dilation - and where it comes from. The Electro-static (ES) and Electro-gravitic (EG) Model provides an explanation. It is related to the 3 Matter energy level space-time fabrics and the 3 Aether energy level space-time fabrics. These 3 + 3 energy levels have their own Aether particulate and Matter particles sizes. As such, within each row of these energy levels are the comparable positrinos and positrons that are (nano- and micro-) gravitons. The double-paired Aether positrino-positrino gravitons and Matter positron-positron gravitons have 2x greater gravity of "space distortion, gravity waves, gravity wells, and "space friction." For persons of Earth, we live amongst these 3 + 3 energy levels of string and loop space-time fabric. They are composed of each row of fabric being graviton-tensor-graviton-tensor-graviton ... These string fabrics with gravitons all have their level of space distortion and "space friction." Matter Tau electron particles have greater gravity wells in their fabrics than the lesser Aether electrino particulates and their nano-gravity wells and gravity waves. If you compare these different energy levels to each other, you will see a forward or reverse time dilation, as a General Relativity principle. The "space friction" of the higher energy level space fabrics will have greater time dilation and as such can appear as a negative ... slowing down-of-time and movement ... while the lesser and wispy Aether space fabrics will have the least-minimum amount of "space friction" and appear to have faster than time dilation and movement. It all relative. It is due to these 3 + 3 energy level space fabrics and their gravitational distortions, that validate Einstein's statement of the unattainable light speed space craft due to the rising level of space fabric encountered. The Aether sub-quantum entanglement of its space fabrics, and the Matter quantum entanglement of its space fabrics are what has been documented as the time difference of space flight time, compared back to Earth time. The faster one goes, eventually the space fabric gravitational force builds up until you are virtually unable to move at any higher speed as the space fabric with its elasticity also display Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid laws !!! Like cornstarch, you can push through it with ease, but when impacting the solution it will harden up and prevent intrusion. The same applies to Matter and Space fabrics. Overcoming this is the opportunity for light and warp speed star flights. One manifests an electrical force field around one's star craft, and this interacts with the gravitons of the space fabric apportioning off their positrons and positrinos into neutrons and neutrinos. One's electrical force field then maintains a neutron/neutrino sphere around itself, with no Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid dynamics of space-time fabric elasticity or compression (!). One overcomes all Newtonian physics, and Einstein's physics of General Relativity and Special Relativity (!). So time dilations of the 3 + 3 space-time fabrics with supersessional flight abilities (with the same technology of the UFOs and tic tacs) one having no gravitational effect on one's star craft or the people inside. One will have the Earth viewers experience time dilation of the star craft personnel experiencing time dilation in reverse. Earth time speed appears to speed up, while the star craft personnel in their own non-gravity space-time experience their own time progression as be slower. So does this allow for time travelling into the future, or like Star Trek return to the past ? That remains for another topic discussion !
It is all of space-time fabrics elasticity and compression - in the same Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid dynamics. An EG/EG photon (composed of an electro-gravitic electron and electro-gravitic positron) is able to manifest its own force field around itself. The same for the ES/ES neutron (composed of an electro-static electron and electro-static positron). These peoples experiment is not properly documenting that ... while they are shooting a photon beam onto a surface, and then make the statement that the emission from the material is a photon - is actually a neutron emission. This gives the ES/ES neutron particle its light speed velocity with NO space fabric gravitational friction onto its surface. One has literal neutral gravitational force on the particle. One attains its own form of neutral or anti-gravity properties. The smaller Aether particulate neutrinos also have these same abilities. YOU as the 3rd party witness, much like Einstein's General Relativity of a first, second, and third party observer are seeing time dilation. The Matter neutron particle, operating within light/particle physics, with its light speed, can also display warp speed through a specific medium. It then appears to the external observer as slipping through space-time faster than its original departure time to its arrival time. One is watching the very wormhole mechanics ... and time travel properties. Conventional Earth person's experiential sub-light time, experiences light speed particles (and warp speed) displaying time reversal to the observer. They have supersessional time dilation creating Newtonian fluid dynamics to the space-time fabrics of Newtonian and non-Newtonian space-fabrics the conventional observer view the experiment through.
If one attains WARP speed (faster than light and time), one is then able to manifest time travel (through the space-time fabrics and quantum entanglements) into the past. One arrives at the destination time BEFORE the original departure location time. Time travel is shown right here with neutron (/neutrino) emissions operating at warp speed. The space-time fabrics are the Akashic records of the past, present, and future - all that was, is, and will be is contained in the entirety of the Aether cosmos. The Aether space-time fabrics operating in Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid dynamics are the same as the space-time fabrics elasticity or compression. Knowing how to manipulate "one's star craft and one's self" relative to the conventional location and time experienced, one is able to time travel into the past, or even into the future !!! One needs to remove one's self and star craft from all 3 Matter and 3 Aether space-time fabrics, attain non-gravity space friction, and with warp speed velocity, one is able to fly through the space-time fabrics without gravity, friction, and time interacting upon one's self and star craft.
Maybe this is an emergent property when two photons are being adsorbed in parallel as a “wave” and are re-emitted in sequence as quantum particles. The first particle is immediately emitted before the two incoming are fully adsorbed.
Seems as tho the wave/particle duality at work here. The photon leaving before entering is likely in a superstate. The wave aspect of it, creating excitation before the perceived particle interaction. Thus creating a perception of a negative time effect.
The first thing I thought of when I saw your video was Isaac Asimov’s short story The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline” where the chemical reaction occurs before the chemicals are mixed. Life imitating art, I guess.
Wow For years I have said the LHC should be seeing collision effects before the protons actually collide. I am so happy that what the research calls negative time has been detected. Yet another discovery that supports Professor Neil Turoks Mirror Universe cosmology.
Yes indeed, scientists love confirmation bias, and change their minds based on one result which is for some reason more reliable than other results. It seems right, why wait! That's good science right there!
It just put into question the idea of the quanta as definite. When a photon starts exiting an atom, there is probably a non null chance of creating a new one in the forward direction. So it's a bit like an energy loan.
Time itself is measured by the Speed of Light in a vacuum, so what this result really seems to be saying is that vacuum imposes some slight "drag" on photons that pull them slightly under the speed of causality. Something that occasionally transmission through atoms avoids. This concept is hardly unknown to theoretical physics. There was a hypothesis that predicted that different energy photons would travel at different speeds through a vacuum. Even though it was disproven (they don't), the hypothesis was well formed and considered worthy of testing.
Interesting topic today... I had a nerd conversation with my friend's wife about my take on Stephen Hawking's two books (A Brief History of Time & The Universe in a Nutshell) a week ago. It opened many different things to consider. One of those being that the results of an experiment (following the notion of quantum entanglement) might also have a temporal component as well as being directed towards another place in the universe. I am actually trying to read more these days, books on a myriad of topics (not just quantum theory) and I feel my ignorance of the obvious is rather overwhelming.
Overwhelming and .. obvious. The myriad might be a problem, I suggest you focus. You need to realise how much there is to know on any one subject. Have you studied science? (Not computer programming). I recommend you do, pick a lane and you will soon learn how easy it is to get lost in it and how difficult it is to understand it. (I suggest biochemistry, that's the real shit, and NOBODY pretends to know more than they know in that field, unlike physics, where any punter has an opinion. People think they can talk about physics without knowing any physics, no-one bullshits about biochemistry without knowing biochemistry, if you see what I mean)
@@escandolosoamargo I cannot focus on any one topic for too long (ADHD sucks like that). I have not gone down the rabbit hole in biochemistry exactly, but I did check out Evolutionary Developmental biology. The longer you study this field, the more you become convinced that life is no accident. The current book I am reading is Crime and Punishment (recommended by those who are well studied). The first half is drudgery. The author is all over the place and it is difficult to figure out the places and people as new ones pop in and out. This may be due to poor translation from Russian. I had a realization as the characters are describing criminal activity as a byproduct of their environment that when a civilization is approaching the brink, criminal activity becomes more common, but I did not see any meaningful statistics in previous collapses. The more I read, especially in various subject matter, the more I feel I am unlocking. I am not much interested in specializing or mastering any one particular field. And I quite agree about computer programming. VB, Java, Python and C++... No more... I like what little hair I have left on my head!!
Tengo la sensación que observamos y calculamos el macro/mini universo y es posible que la mayoría de las veces interpretamos erróneo lo que se nos revela !
deltaE times delta t is equal to or larger than Planck's constant divided by 4 pi. Aka, for a short amount of time there can be a positive amount of energy or vice versa a negative time at which an event takes place. Good old Heisenberg.
Eh, so here's another take - We have learned a lot about "average" values about quantum phenomena (such as the average weight of any given atom including times when a rogue charm quark pops in and affects the weight) such that dealing with average values in systems that don't or can't express in average ways when it comes to how one atom or electron gained energy or lost energy based on photonic bombardment. What this seems to be, from all I've read and seen to far, is similar to how we measure things like red shift of any given star - if a photon is emitted while the emitting mediums are in regression of the view port, it red shifts compared to the emitting object being observed, and blue shifts if the medium is moving toward the view port - how astronomers establish the spin of any given astronomical object. So, when talking on the scale of photons to a single Rubidium atom, it would seem that the incoming photon may "skim" an electron, leaving way earlier than a photon that hits the electron with a directly perpendicular vector, causing absorption, and release at a different wavelength. Here, it may or may not be the electron "spin" property, but it may also be - given that photons are smaller than electrons, that a vector that doesn't quite impact a given electron may produce values that are lower than the expected average value because the trig value of impact can't be measured with modern measurement tools in large aggregates like this - causing a statistical anomaly. And, speaking as a layman, it occurs to me that there may be an interaction not factored into the average re-transmission expectation, such as the trig values of actual impact compared to the average trig values from older measurements. I don't see this as negative time, but rather that our model doesn't totally compensate for the fact that given the size difference, a photon may only be partially deflected by the electron's mass, but also may directly impact an electron, causing energy gain and re-emission. As an aggregate, this sort of behaviour may appear as negative time if all you have to compare it to is average values measured from a point in time of research when we ONLY had average values to look at. But again, as a layman, I might be completely off.
Layman here as well, but your description had me imagining the possibility of photons being captured in the orbit of electrons, +/- orbital decay. Similarly, are there photons that pass just close enough to an electron cloud to change course, like a slingshot, rather than deflect or absorb? I know that's a pretty Newtonian way of thinking about it, but eh *shrugs*
That's all too classical. In quantum terms there's no meaningful sense in which , for instance, "photons are smaller than electrons" (electrons are elementary particles and so are taken to have _zero_ spatial extent - essentially they have _no_ size). And photons aren't going to be measurably affected by the electron's _mass_ either BTW. Your comment seems based on electrons being hard planet-like balls orbiting a sun-like nucleus and photons doing "flybys" of them, like spacecraft using gravity assists. None of that is accurate and neither are any of your suppositions made on that basis.
Hypothesis: There must be a quantum level pressure wave preceding the photon which is transmitted by far smaller random soup of particles, which is only able to be seen in the rubidium, as a secondary excitation, basically events caused by this disturbance when photon groups are shot into the area. What you are seeing is the existence of another phenomenon unrelated to the photons themselves. The pressure waves does move faster than the photons once they enter the medium, slowing them (the photons) but the excitation (the pressure wave) will propagate at the speed of light due to near instance contact within the medium, and not be affected, while the photons are affected. That "pressure" is the manifestation of the slowing effect upon the photons themselves. What we then observe is the pressure wave moving through the medium ahead of the photons, which is what excites the rubidium, and not the photons- the results show only one thing- but not the photons themselves, which may lag behind the pressure wave. This could explain a lot in terms of the double slit experiments, and other wave related interactions of photons and electrons. No idea how to test that.
First, Daniela is cute in all states! Second, as Hawking pointed out in the Information paradox, you have to consider all universes in the multiverse. In some universes those rubidium atoms didn’t exist so overall in the multiverse there is no negative time because it gets washed out. On the other hand, population inversion is the inefficiency of a quantum well laser. A gas is inside a box, the inner walls of the box has different layers of materials and as the electrons orbit the nucleus they get caught in the these different layers of materials and it releases a photon to drop to a lower energy state. Ideally the photo bounced back and forth between a fully reflective mirror at the back and a partially reflective mirror in the front. Some photons get absorbed in the gas cloud on their way to the mirror and that’s called population inversion. I always wanted to scale up a quantum well laser to a fusion reactor. You pump in the deuterium, use an electromagnet to draw the deuterium to the inner walls, create a very dense, very hot laser between two fully reflective mirrors, then change the polarity on their way magnet and push it into a small compact cloud in the middle of the laser to create fusion.
In my opinion, it appears that this phenomenon is related not to the photons,but rather to the electrons returning back to ground state. I guess there is something with that delay we don't fully understand...
The other possibility is that the photons experienced negative space. Probably due to phase alignment of the photon's EM wave and the atom's electron's EM wave in the same plane (aligned polarity) creating a sort of rogue wave phenomena that collapsed into a subatomic wormhole.
I would expect these outcomes. Watch the W bosons and the individual energy levels of hadrons. The interaction is causing lepton particle/antiparticle reactions at high energy levels. The energy can be so high that it causes the creation of positrons. This is what that looks like.
Maybe something is still missing. Rough analogy: Up into the Middle Ages astrologers were puzzled by retrograde planetary movements and other timing issues and constructed very complex models of the universe consisting of celestials spheres inside celestial spheres to try to explain all these anomalies. However, once the heliocentric model of the solar system was introduced, all those problems disappeared. It all started to make sense. My takeaway is that if it starts getting more and more complicated, the problem is often at the root concept, not the details
Hello, wondefull person!!¡ First of all, I love and apreciate añl of your content (and all the effort behind) you put for free to feed minds (As a Physicist I can really tell) To answer your question, I will suggest that maybe some kind of effect, entanglin type, may cause that the emission is forced in a spacial spot way separate from the interaction of excitation happens. I mean, a enough distant entangled point from the photon interaction to violate the speed of light limit if you measure the distance from absortion to emision. Meaning some queantum effect of entanglement afecting areas at some scale (nanoscale) makes it, aparently violate space/time constraints. But, in this case, because it is. I mean, some kind of quantum "teleportation" Love you from Spain. Thanks for all, keep pushing. You are the fucking GOAT
These findings are very weird and curious like is it some kind of entanglement happening or is it some kind of field interaction must know more thank you Anton and thank you. Wonderful people.
First we will have to see, if the statistical analysis holds the check of other groups. If it holds it seems very similar to the phase shift a group does when passing a resonator, which it is to small for the wavelength were some of the photons seems to travel faster then light.
The so-called "quantum" superposition, interference and entanglement effects can be accounted for as non-Markov stochastic processes. No physical waves are needed. The wavefunction (and QFT "field") is only a model for this stochastic dynamics if you beg for a smooth uni-directional time evolution story (i.e., beg for trivial spacetime topology). Don't be beggars.
My guess is the effect of gravity on quantum interactions is responsible for some of the weirdness of quantum mechanics. We know our theories and math are wrong or incomplete because we don’t understand gravity on the quantum and universe scale (the dark matter issue). While I don’t think resolving this issue will remove all the weirdness of quantum mechanics, I think it will sort out many of the issues. We have a known gap in our understanding, so it makes sense we’d get baffling test results.
I'm a physicist and I'm going to have another drink.
Im not a physicist but after the last three years I’m going to have another drink 🍻
@@RiceonriceI may or may not be a physicist and I may or may not have another drink. 🍻
"I think I'm gonna have another one. I'M HAVING ANOTHER ONE"
I'm on my 3rd
What's your field of expertise/work?
I experience negative time whenever I'm at work.
How did you split your timeline? 1
Bartender says: - Hey, we dont serve that kind here!
And tachyon enters the bar.
Time goes slow Monday to Friday. That's why they catch up Saturday and Sunday by making time go fast
@@zackdrake8735Something is going on with my posting. I've had two posts get double posted.
You too!!!!
They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said, welcome aboard...
Fantastic
Same happened to me
Patrolling the comments section makes you wish for a nuclear winter
I recall, about 20 years ago, an experiment showed that a photon beam projected through super-cooled cesium gas had the same result; it appeared that the photons were exiting the gas BEFORE they entered.
@Christopherweedon6944: Was that experiment published in Physics Review?
That’s interesting. Too interesting!
Was it 20 years ago though, am I getting old or you have been continuing the experiments?
My girlfriend used to do that to me when i was young
@@olddog-fv2ox 😂
I've had this long-running suspicion that the quantum realm is strange to us because we are flooded with so much information in the macro world, we default to thinking everything is continuous. But in the particle realm interactions are infrequent, and information about the exact position and velocities can only ever be approximate because the particles never experience the whole picture, and never can. Wave mechanics is then just a very good mathematical tool that fits that behaviour.
We exist in a sea of probability, too macroscopic or observant to distinguish the true indeterministic nature of the universe
psst. there is consciousness layer orchestrating choices and dataflow in matrerial world. data flow can come from the future. while no action is not taken, future is already visible. You have to see it to believe it, you live in EvilSimu(TM). Currently we play under ultra hardcore level. We have spells, distractions, false knowledge, falsescience, destroyed preconception organs.
If we were to look at this as classical physics, we'd have a moving charge with an electric field capable of causing all sorts of effects before the particle itself arrives..
Some day we could find a theory of everything.
@@linkinpark60002 Nah, my vote is a deterministic non-local hidden variable theorem.
Here I read "negative time" as a Heisenberg uncertainty phenomenon; where the energy used for emission from a corresponding absorption is "borrowed" in advance of that absorption from elsewhere in the quantum field... which I guess requires there to be more than one photon in the system at a time so they can participate in that "borrowing."
This is similar to how a stock brokerage handles short selling. If you want to sell short, the brokerage will borrow those shares from other customers' accounts or the firm's own holdings. Then when you close out your short position, the shares are restored. I wonder what an infinitely rising price on a shorted stock looks like in the quantum world. Explosive, I'd think.
Taking virtual particles into account, in short durations, you absolutely do have more than one photon in any case
@@pamir8232 thinking the same thing (borrowing from the quantumly entangled photon in the dimension next door 😝).
What is the interest rate for borrowing energy?
The paper is very explicit about this being a negative group delay, ie a statistical / wave-like phenomenon, so I think you're on to something as for an event / particle-like explanation.
I often wonder how much of this is just weird semantics, like, technically the data set can be "massaged" to produce a negative value for time in the results of this experiment, but really is just a anectode-level "interesting fact" that does not have any impact in the real interpretation of reality. I don't really know, I'm not a physicist by any means, but I'm skeptical of these "findings" that are too far out there in the clickbait realm, or even those that are building too much on top of metaphors (like the "spin" of a particle) which to me just mean someone tried too hard to explain something and could not figure out the language for it.
You did a great job covering the subject though!
Your stance is not scientific, real science isn't afraid to dump all precious "facts" for new more factual facts, you should not be in science you have a bias based upon old information and old concensus, your ego blocks true new scientific discovery
I do understand your skepticism. I am not a physicist either (though I sometimes pretend to be in my daydreams).
Trying to figure out things that we don’t have the language for is a huge part of what science is. Of course spin is a metaphor but it does represent a real phenomena that they are attempting to describe and understand. Our brains have evolved to find where the food is, try not to get killed, and find a mate and we are using them to attempt to understand what is going on around us because we just figured out that we know basically nothing. The study is a solid effort, I think, but I get your point.
More sensational words more reader… duration is not clock time… poor science 🧬
It's good to be skeptical, but each time we try to rationally explain these problems, we always end up more confused. Skeptics have all the theories but, never, and I mean "NEVER" have been vindicated by reality. By the track record of quantum strangeness, this is probably not a case of data being "massaged", instead evidence of more mind bending crud that skeptics are going to choke on for the next few decades. Just face it, skeptics have no clue what's going on either.
On the quantum level, data massage you
I've encountered negative time before at school waiting for the bell to ring.
i think you misunderstood the principle - negative time would mean you could leave early :)
This "negative time" concept seems more like an indication of something science at this point has not understood well yet, rather than anything that is actually consistent with what the phrase "negative time" would seem to suggest. Seems like a way to drive attention rather than describe accurately.
I feel like this is behind the entirety of quantum mechanics. Sure, we have models that work most of the time, but we have no idea what's really going on, and when we say things like a particle being in two places at the same time and what not, it's only a reflection of how little we actually know.
@@zualapips1638 Yes, quantum mechanics is clearly not something fully understood. But it's not the same as something like the term "negative time" being used in a research paper. Quantum mechanics is a whole realm of information, and not just a research paper making up terms just to get attention.
The phrase is used as clickbait to drive up the number of readers of the paper.
I agree. Nothing can go back in time.
@@zualapips1638 Particles being "in two places at the same time" is pop-sci BS. Physicists understand that that claim is interpretation dependent i.e. it's essentially stating an _opinion_ about what the mathematics is telling us rather than a result from the _physical_ world (or at least they _should_ know that :).
Put it this way, every time we _measure_ where a particle is, it's in _one_ place :). What happens the rest of the time _necessarily_ involves some speculation.
(quantum mechanics is already "weird" enough without _creating_ weirdness but poorly written pop-sci books, TH-cam videos by careless science communicators etc. can't seem to help themselves)
Happy New York, Anton🎉 you bring such joy to us all!
The autocorrect did you dirty bro! 😂🤝
I understood the video in negative time: when the video ended, I was still excited trying to understand.
😂😂😂
that's not a negative time. that's a wasted time
@@gunungstanman like what you're doing by replying
So, remember hearing about a time variant of the double slit experiment. As in the slits are separated by time not space. And there was interference that suggested photons' probability wave function also had a time component and exist a little forward and backwards in time
This might sound a little strange but it seems to me they've created a kind of quantum crystal where the driven transition phase led to negative group velocity via the measurement beam and the Kerr effect.
The whole thing was at 60 micro Kelvin so I can see how that could happen
First, thanks for doing your best to explain these things to those of us that don't have the education or knowledge to understand the papers ourselves. Second this is neat. Third, this sounds exactly like the kind of research that gets picked up and hyped by the media without any actual understanding from the press as to what's actually being researched or claimed
Yes!! I was hoping you would cover this Anton! I don’t trust anyone else lol
I second this!!
The world of quantum physics is mind expanding. . Thank you Anton 👍
that auto translate title in my notification is so disturbing. You're a wonderful person Anton.
I felt annoyed by auto-translation, too. There are browser extensions to prevent it. YT is becoming more and more a PITA
@@rotatingmindwhere is this happening?
@@nicodesmidt4034 It happens for those who are comfortably speaking two or more languages and want all videos in these languages displayed or played in their original language rather than auto-translated and/or auto-dubbed into whatever you set in your google account settings.
Google/TH-cam seems to assume that people can only speak one language. Obviously, you can prevent this behavior by signing out of your google account, but that's probably not an option, if you just want to watch your favorite channels.
@ weird. Why would they translate anyway ?
Rubidium is part of the spice melange, its properties allow for the guild navigators to have space travel without moving, folding space and time…
This is an amazing group of researchers that managed to pull off this experiment. No small feat. I have a comment much like the "semantic" comment below. The researchers have assumed a photon excites an electron to a certain degree, then it leaves the electron. A fairly macro-mechanical explanation. They have really disproved this mechanical assumption; and broadly revealed that a lot more going on energetically at this level.
Good point. I agree. Our models are inaccurate, and the contradictions prove it.
BS woke DEI , they aren’t serious scientists at all .
Is great! And i think another step on understanding that yes, in fact, the cuantum reality is, in fact, probabilistic in escence. And of course, a little bit crazy
It sounds to that this may be a problem of how they are detecting the excitation of the rubidium atoms. Their sensors also needs time to detect the excitation and respond to it. This is similar to the reason you see a jet plane before you hear the sonic boom. You experience negative time of the sonic boom.
Propagation delay of sound is not the same thing as photons "exceeding" the speed of light in a vacuum. Prior experiments 25 years ago produced this same superluminal speed. The assumption is that light itself cannot exceed C (in a vacuum), but the information about the nudge or excitation of ions could exceed C in a cascade through the chamber, but the information had to arrive in a state that made it somehow ambiguous to prevent breaking of causality. I'm curious though, if some information could actually be sent with some sort of error detection encoding ala what is being done with quantum computing? We already know that "information" somehow exceeds C with spooky action at a distance with quantum entangled twins.
@@dohabandit You misjudge two different things.
Remember we are trying to observe two effects here. Photons that interacted with the rubidium atoms and the excitation of the rubidium atoms. The negative time may be an artifact of the sensors SIMILAR to the sonic boom where our eyes detect differently from our ears. I am not saying that it is EXACTLY the same as the sonic boom phenomena.
@@pulsar22 Read the paper from 2000 about the cesium ion vapor light amplifier. It's essentially the same experiment, just using cesium instead. The cascade effect of the incident laser exceeded c and left the exit before having fully entered the chamber, going back in time.
I look forward to your posts, Anton. Always very interesting, and often f'n astonishing.
This is one of the latter.
It's about time.
Because Anton is a Time Lord.
U blow him much
7:55 basically the question was answered before it was asked, happens sometimes when the relative shares differences with another. It may not have to fully entangle or because it’s getting close to becoming, the answer could come first. I hope that makes sense. Like, imagine lightning and how it goes towards the ground and then the ground finishes the connection and the bolt becomes by linking the roads. Maybe that visual will make it easier to understand. When the answer or action is closer to happening, maybe the action can come before the cause like by context or the surrounding. It’s not conscious of the surroundings but reflecting and the small differences could knock it into coherence kinda like noise making fall into decoherence. Maybe there’s some noise relative between the two and even though they aren’t fully connected, the relatives share the difference. Idk what or how but that’s the best i can think of right now.
Having very minimal expertise in this area im going to give my idea of what's going on.
I think this is a physical manifestation of Feynmann path integrals. The idea that to ascertain the trajectory of a quantum object you integrate over multiple (infinitely so) potential paths. Perhaps these paths don't just have to be spatial but rather follow a more general notion of spacetime. Perhaps the contributions of photons and atoms interacting slightly ahead of time is non zero or rather not perfectly cancelled out for reasons i can't elucidate right now.
This whole thing reminds me of a paper out of Imperial about a year back where photons we're seemingly interfering with themselves temporally as opposed to spatially in a temporal double slit experiment. I think googling "temporal double slit experiment imperial" will bring that paper up. That experiment would also loosely fit this narrative im trying to set up.
Anyway I know my idea is almost certainly wrong. But its fun to think about and any pedagogic corrections are mucho welcome.
Regarding the photo interacting temporally with its self what do you mean by that?
For example is it somewhat like in it's moments of observation it moves relative to it's prior point being 0 rather than the predicable path of it's spacial trajectory of its journey from true 0 to where it's at and is predicted to go?
Much looking forward to your thoughts on this!
@Anyon-z2s I am referencing an experiment done by Imperial College London in 2023 where they performed a little twist on the "standard" double slit experiment. In the standard (or spatial) double slit experiment photons passing through one of two slits that are very close to each other will seemingly interfere with a version of themselves that went through the other slit. This is often interpreted as the "wave" nature of light as the interference (or interaction as I referred to it in my previous comment) is consistent with a wave going through both slits at the same time.
The group out of Imperial did some very impressive things with materials, and honestly most of what they did goes way over my head, but basically they set up a situation where the wave nature of light is investigated along the temporal dimension as opposed to the spatial dimension that the standard double slit experiment deals with. They did this with super fast acting electro-activated materials that switch a material from transmissive to reflective quickly enough and timed well enough to create a situation in which light is reflected in one instance and passes through the material a truly minuscule fraction of second later. This creates a "temporal" double slit where a photon goes through in one instance of time but not in the other. As with the spatial double slit where an interference pattern is seen so to is one seen in the temporal variant. Although they manifest in different ways.
In the spatial double slit, the pattern we measure is consistent with 2 separate waves that originate at the end of each slit interfering with each other. In the temporal double slit the pattern we measure is instead consistent with 2 separate waves with different frequencies interfering with each other. The frequency of light dictates its color and indeed the result the team from Imperial found was that there was chromatic interference in the observed light measured after the "temporal" double slit.
Apologies if my explanation isn't that good. It's not my area of expertise (I'm more of a plasma physicist) but I find the stuff insanely fascinating. If you would like to read more about it you can google "imperial temporal double slit" and there should be stuff associated with Imperial College London that comes up and even videos, including one from Anton Petrov published over a year ago.
@hahahasan your explanation was amazing and your elaboration on the topic was very concise.
However I'm aware of the experiments aforementioned and others In the field.
One of such being the. Elitzur Vaidman bomb experiment and it's modern iterations.
Ive noticed a trend in these experiments is a matter of locality and non locality relative to seemingly independent microstates being co dependent relative to the Macrostate product.
So I'm more so interested in the theory of the mechanism and mathematics.
Never the less your explanation was good, I just happen to find the topics discussion rather reductionist forward and secularly utilised.
Also I have a interest in plasma physics I would love to discuss some ideas and hypotheses with you if you'd be willing to lend an ear!
Looking forward to your thoughts!
@Anyon-z2s The quantum bomb experiment is super weird. Probably the best show of how weird the quantum world is. I'm honestly not sure what to make of it.
Just thinking aloud... we can describe particles interfering with themselves when they are in a superposition but we can never directly observe a superposed state. Any direct measurement of course leads to wavefunction collapse and a single measured state. The quantum bomb is really interesting because its existence in a mach-zehnder interferometer actually messes up the photons self interference.... yeah im thinking out loud and coming up with nothing. It's super weird. What's your thoughts on the matter?
Also whats your thoughts regarding plasma physics?
I should note I don't quite understand your line "Ive noticed a trend in these experiments is a matter of locality and non locality relative to seemingly independent microstates being co dependent relative to the Macrostate product." Not sure how to address this.
Thanks Anton, have an excellent new year!!
Hello wonderful Anton, this is person
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Sounds to me as tho she does
From the Known Universe, to Subatomic in on week, I appreciate the juxtaposition Anton! Happy New Year.
The idea that something with no mass would experience any sort of _Time_ sounds silly to me
Exactly.
Proximity
Try not to 'assume' that time itself is anisotropic or only mediated by one particle/force...
Not having found these yet, there's no reason to assume its be such a 'flat' phenomenon. It could very well be very composite
instead, imagine that, occasionally, Rubidium poops BEFORE it eats.
This may be an oversimplification, but even though photons being massless is already quite counterintuitive, I think of it like a water wave, where energy can be transferred, but not mass. If it interacts in space, then relativistically, it is also participating in time.
You can think of this as a type of decay; they happen at different rates. It also depends on the energy levels, as new energy entering a system on a large scale can have immediate effects, which might seem like negative time. This all depends on the scale you are looking at (time scale, space scale).
This fits (somewhat) into something I've thought about now and again. The scifi trope of traveling at the speed of light. Besides the energy/mass impossibility of any physical object traveling at the speed of light, but there would also be an impossibility of navigating anywhere if you could. Time slows as you approach the speed of light until, at the speed of light, time is meaningless and doesn't move or change at all. From a photon's perspective, travel from pount A to point B, ANY distance, would occur with zero time passage. In other words, to a photo, ANY distance traveled would be instantaneous. How could you hope to take a vehicle from Earth to, say, the center of the galaxy (~25,000 light years away) when you could not control the travel time because it would be instantaneous TO YOU. Say you can accelerate to the speed of light but from Earth to the point at which your ship actually hits the speed of light puts you out near Pluto. From that point when you hit the speed of light until you get to the center of the galaxy would be instantaneous. How do you time it so you can start deceleration from lightspeed to something more normal? It's not like you can have an on-ship timer that counts half a second of time before deceleration starts. There is no half second. You are near Pluyo and then, instantly, you are in the center of the galaxy. Or passing into the Andromeda galaxy. Or out near the Great Attractor. In all cases your local travel time to ANYWHERE is instant. Quite the pickle for a scifi author to get around.
Well, the speed of light is not infinite, so it should be possible to have external stationary apparatus in place to perform the movement of your ship, including stopping and starting correctly. After all, we can stop and start actual light. I agree that it wouldn't really be a thing that could happen in the instance of non-time experienced by the traveler. Now, if you're traveling "near" the speed of light, instead, you would have some tiny amount of time to react in that scenario, I expect.
As much as I enjoy the FTL trope in sci-fi, I look forward to content creators exploring other avenues of interstellar travel. Not "wormholes" or quasi-religious space folding BS in the Dune universe. *SOMETHING ELSE*
In star wars lore throns civilization grew to be able to navigate hyper space jumps by instinctly predicting where to jump out of hyper space thru there connection with the force, however in real life I feel you would have to predict accurately the planets obrit, any objects close by like, stars or quasars just to avoid.
@@keithwinget6521 The problem for your external solution is it has to be at the destination. That means you first had to send it there at a sunlight speed which means it took hundreds of many many thousands of years to get there. Only then could you send light speed craft to those places - no going to new locations and exploring.
One practical way to use this is as a virtual randomizer for a quantum computing system.
You can use the unpredictability of these events and how the quantum negative time effects work to increase a system's randomization by emulating unpredictable events. This could also be used within the same environment with the presence of an AGI to make it more "realistic" to humans since humans can be somewhat unpredictable, you'd want the AGI to emulate this, therefore, it doesn't just bee-line in its progression or development, giving probability a chance to be an obstacle.
What is light? -An EM wave!
What is a photon? - A bunch of EM waves!
When an EM wave become a photon? - When it's want! 😂
When it is want? 🤨
Phase and group velocity > c has been observed many times. I first heard of it in the '90s in Photonics magazine.
Given that 18ns at light speed is about 5.4m, I wonder if the experimental setup had this size to compensate?
I think you have some of the most fascinating topics.
I love the comments, thoughtful crowd here. I'm thinking along the lines of scalar magnetic entanglement. I postulated that we live on an event horizon of 'now' and that nested magnetic fields have scalar coherence from distant to sub-atomic. Sort of a photon wiggle where the crest is above the event horizon of now, and the trough is below the event horizon of now. This might explain spooky action, pre-emission, and other pre-causality... It is all just an extra-dimensional entanglement. The future is coming from the very small, from inside. The further away, the more-than-light-speed it would take to ever catch up. Time explodes away from us faster than we can ever catch up to it.
Absolutely love this! I hope Anton pins this comment! 🤝🤝🤝
it is actually somewhat intuitive unlike almost anything else in quantum if you shoot a metal ball into a weight attached to a spring, it will take time for a spring to contract slowing the ball, then accelerating it back, then the spring will oscillate, shoot another ball when the spring goes up oscillating, and it will be sent back faster than the first one.
Kinda makes sense coz photons experience no travel time. Might help explain the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment.
I love you videos . I have learned alot i have been a subscriber for years but I didn't understand any of this but I love the way you break it down so us regular people can try to understand 😂
I've been waiting for you to cover this one. I tried to sort it out before and was very, very confused. Now I'm merely very confused.
So... not time travel, but... causality violation? Except not? Is the idea that the actual excitation of the electron is separated from the absoprtion/emitting; so the photon is absorbed, then emitted, then the electron enters an excited state? Kind of like when someone slaps you but you don't feel it and react until a second or two later?
I think I've exhausted my allotment of question marks.
No causality violation, because the tiny delay observed on this level can't be used to send a message or action itself backward in time. The measurements themselves collapse the wave functions anyway
Cz-záporný čas je dobrá stopa cestování světelnou rychlostí neboť celý vesmír se téměř touto rychlostí pohybuje. Stačí změnit lom mezi 2 stavy hmoty a svezeme se téměř rychlostí světla ovšem jen do minulosti a daleko od bodu ze kterého jsme vzešli s naší temnou nebo baryonovou hmotou. Pouze čistá informace(energie v čase) se může velmi blížit současnosti.
makes perfect sense because we are time dilated, and "negative" time can happen
I can’t agree with that. Time dilation affects rates, but the rates are just ratios between different states (high vs low gravity, high vs low velocity). It’s always above zero. Time dilation doesn’t add or subtract, it expands or compresses, so it’s always above zero.
@DCDevTanelorn it can be negative if the observer is also time dilated, and the thing being observed is less so, relatively speaking. the math is clear on that.
Exciting...good explanation, thanks Anton👍❤
Could this work for in inventing negative Mass
But is negative mass possible?
I have no background in mathematics so I'm just talking nonsense, but it seems to me like if spacetime can be "shared" via quantum entanglement, then wouldn't matter be brought along for the ride? I would have to investigate the subject more, but if atoms are superpositioned, do the first or the second(etc.) or all locations experience the mass of the entangled group? If it is always split among the locations in a "normal" sort of way, then it would be a no-go, but if one location can retain more mass than another location (sort of borrowed? from the other members of the entangled group), then wouldn't at least one location appear to have negative mass in a similar way as the study suggests time can have?
Is like when you feel pain even before someone hits you, or you talk w someone and assume stuff and react by your bias even before getting confirmed
GROAN! That's like claiming that arriving early = "negative time" 😖
Given uncertainty about location of particles in space, we shouldn't be surprised at uncertainty about location in time.
appreciate the not clickbaity title
It is not Anton’s style… ❤…
I caught a little of it, and the comments helped fram it better. Thanks 😊
Job done! Now you have a vague idea of something you previously knew nothing about!
I went to my fridge in a passive state but left it in an excited one…
That only happens when the fridge contains a significant quantity of alcohol molecules...
I formed the opinion while at college studying psychology that electrons and other particles must be extended in time as well as in space. If it were not the case it would be very difficult to understand how we have any perception of time at all (and therefore no perceptions at all). Reality and consciousness cannot exist without this principle being true.
“Coincidence” is the mainstream scientist’s “God of the gaps”.
That happens because those electrons are entangled with electron of another universe on which the atom was already excited. This makes the electrons in our universe have the premonition and act instants before their atom be afected here.
If sperm mitochandria doesn't have DNA the only way that guy could have paternal mitochondria is if he's a human clone . Cloning requires host mitochondria
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 😊🙂
Well, it's been known for a long time that most light flowing through a medium don't interact with the atoms of that medium, they pass through undisturbed, and it's the electromagnetic field of that medium that actually slows down that light while it passes through. If the light passes through and gets slowed down by the EM field, then the EM field itself will feel the momentum of that light and that would cause the atoms of the medium to get disturbed and give off their own light. So no matter what, a photon of light will always pass through a medium faster than the medium itself, even if the photon is slowed by the medium. So it should be no surprise that these outside photons will pass through before the medium itself gets disturbed and emits its own light.
To me, I believe it shows there's entities, beings, types of life, there's the type we know about- bacteria, cells.. living in our body and they're having an experience and now we know there's entities experiencing our lives on the sideline, experiencing our same time in reverse. It's whatever. We're all having a good time.
This could be a plausible cause for Deja Vu. I have personally experienced extreme deja vu multiple times, where I knew exactly where a conversation was going and event which transpired for up to a couple hours. Maybe memories can travel backwards in time due to the quantume universe. Something worth looking into.
I would argue that there's a second very unusual result coming out of that study:
Someone can be a top quantum physics researcher AND quite good looking (@2:44).
Ground-breaking, that
My take on it is some interaction is taking place to make them "interact" in advance. They just don't know the process yet. It kind of makes sense.
Thank you for teaching us how to enter quantum state. I can now finish my Job before starting it.
This topic all relates to the new and various versions of time dilation - and where it comes from.
The Electro-static (ES) and Electro-gravitic (EG) Model provides an explanation. It is related to the 3 Matter energy level space-time fabrics and the 3 Aether energy level space-time fabrics.
These 3 + 3 energy levels have their own Aether particulate and Matter particles sizes. As such, within each row of these energy levels are the comparable positrinos and positrons that are (nano- and micro-) gravitons. The double-paired Aether positrino-positrino gravitons and Matter positron-positron gravitons have 2x greater gravity of "space distortion, gravity waves, gravity wells, and "space friction."
For persons of Earth, we live amongst these 3 + 3 energy levels of string and loop space-time fabric. They are composed of each row of fabric being graviton-tensor-graviton-tensor-graviton ... These string fabrics with gravitons all have their level of space distortion and "space friction." Matter Tau electron particles have greater gravity wells in their fabrics than the lesser Aether electrino particulates and their nano-gravity wells and gravity waves.
If you compare these different energy levels to each other, you will see a forward or reverse time dilation, as a General Relativity principle. The "space friction" of the higher energy level space fabrics will have greater time dilation and as such can appear as a negative ... slowing down-of-time and movement ... while the lesser and wispy Aether space fabrics will have the least-minimum amount of "space friction" and appear to have faster than time dilation and movement. It all relative.
It is due to these 3 + 3 energy level space fabrics and their gravitational distortions, that validate Einstein's statement of the unattainable light speed space craft due to the rising level of space fabric encountered. The Aether sub-quantum entanglement of its space fabrics, and the Matter quantum entanglement of its space fabrics are what has been documented as the time difference of space flight time, compared back to Earth time. The faster one goes, eventually the space fabric gravitational force builds up until you are virtually unable to move at any higher speed as the space fabric with its elasticity also display Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid laws !!! Like cornstarch, you can push through it with ease, but when impacting the solution it will harden up and prevent intrusion. The same applies to Matter and Space fabrics.
Overcoming this is the opportunity for light and warp speed star flights. One manifests an electrical force field around one's star craft, and this interacts with the gravitons of the space fabric apportioning off their positrons and positrinos into neutrons and neutrinos. One's electrical force field then maintains a neutron/neutrino sphere around itself, with no Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid dynamics of space-time fabric elasticity or compression (!). One overcomes all Newtonian physics, and Einstein's physics of General Relativity and Special Relativity (!).
So time dilations of the 3 + 3 space-time fabrics with supersessional flight abilities (with the same technology of the UFOs and tic tacs) one having no gravitational effect on one's star craft or the people inside. One will have the Earth viewers experience time dilation of the star craft personnel experiencing time dilation in reverse. Earth time speed appears to speed up, while the star craft personnel in their own non-gravity space-time experience their own time progression as be slower.
So does this allow for time travelling into the future, or like Star Trek return to the past ? That remains for another topic discussion !
It is all of space-time fabrics elasticity and compression - in the same Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid dynamics. An EG/EG photon (composed of an electro-gravitic electron and electro-gravitic positron) is able to manifest its own force field around itself. The same for the ES/ES neutron (composed of an electro-static electron and electro-static positron). These peoples experiment is not properly documenting that ... while they are shooting a photon beam onto a surface, and then make the statement that the emission from the material is a photon - is actually a neutron emission. This gives the ES/ES neutron particle its light speed velocity with NO space fabric gravitational friction onto its surface. One has literal neutral gravitational force on the particle. One attains its own form of neutral or anti-gravity properties. The smaller Aether particulate neutrinos also have these same abilities. YOU as the 3rd party witness, much like Einstein's General Relativity of a first, second, and third party observer are seeing time dilation. The Matter neutron particle, operating within light/particle physics, with its light speed, can also display warp speed through a specific medium. It then appears to the external observer as slipping through space-time faster than its original departure time to its arrival time. One is watching the very wormhole mechanics ... and time travel properties. Conventional Earth person's experiential sub-light time, experiences light speed particles (and warp speed) displaying time reversal to the observer. They have supersessional time dilation creating Newtonian fluid dynamics to the space-time fabrics of Newtonian and non-Newtonian space-fabrics the conventional observer view the experiment through.
If one attains WARP speed (faster than light and time), one is then able to manifest time travel (through the space-time fabrics and quantum entanglements) into the past. One arrives at the destination time BEFORE the original departure location time. Time travel is shown right here with neutron (/neutrino) emissions operating at warp speed. The space-time fabrics are the Akashic records of the past, present, and future - all that was, is, and will be is contained in the entirety of the Aether cosmos. The Aether space-time fabrics operating in Newtonian and non-Newtonian fluid dynamics are the same as the space-time fabrics elasticity or compression. Knowing how to manipulate "one's star craft and one's self" relative to the conventional location and time experienced, one is able to time travel into the past, or even into the future !!! One needs to remove one's self and star craft from all 3 Matter and 3 Aether space-time fabrics, attain non-gravity space friction, and with warp speed velocity, one is able to fly through the space-time fabrics without gravity, friction, and time interacting upon one's self and star craft.
Hi. I wonder in which way it might affect quantum computers’ behaviours. So intriguing… ❤❤❤
Back and forth vibration. Perhaps there is motion of the light as it travels. Lets see if a different length has more or less dellay.
Maybe this is an emergent property when two photons are being adsorbed in parallel as a “wave” and are re-emitted in sequence as quantum particles. The first particle is immediately emitted before the two incoming are fully adsorbed.
Seems as tho the wave/particle duality at work here. The photon leaving before entering is likely in a superstate. The wave aspect of it, creating excitation before the perceived particle interaction. Thus creating a perception of a negative time effect.
The first thing I thought of when I saw your video was Isaac Asimov’s short story The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline” where the chemical reaction occurs before the chemicals are mixed. Life imitating art, I guess.
This result makes intuitive sense to me if you think of photons as wave functions, not as particles with definite positions in space.
Wow For years I have said the LHC should be seeing collision effects before the protons actually collide.
I am so happy that what the research calls negative time has been detected.
Yet another discovery that supports Professor Neil Turoks Mirror Universe cosmology.
Yes indeed, scientists love confirmation bias, and change their minds based on one result which is for some reason more reliable than other results. It seems right, why wait! That's good science right there!
It just put into question the idea of the quanta as definite.
When a photon starts exiting an atom, there is probably a non null chance of creating a new one in the forward direction.
So it's a bit like an energy loan.
Time itself is measured by the Speed of Light in a vacuum, so what this result really seems to be saying is that vacuum imposes some slight "drag" on photons that pull them slightly under the speed of causality. Something that occasionally transmission through atoms avoids.
This concept is hardly unknown to theoretical physics. There was a hypothesis that predicted that different energy photons would travel at different speeds through a vacuum. Even though it was disproven (they don't), the hypothesis was well formed and considered worthy of testing.
Interesting topic today... I had a nerd conversation with my friend's wife about my take on Stephen Hawking's two books (A Brief History of Time & The Universe in a Nutshell) a week ago. It opened many different things to consider. One of those being that the results of an experiment (following the notion of quantum entanglement) might also have a temporal component as well as being directed towards another place in the universe.
I am actually trying to read more these days, books on a myriad of topics (not just quantum theory) and I feel my ignorance of the obvious is rather overwhelming.
Overwhelming and .. obvious. The myriad might be a problem, I suggest you focus. You need to realise how much there is to know on any one subject. Have you studied science? (Not computer programming). I recommend you do, pick a lane and you will soon learn how easy it is to get lost in it and how difficult it is to understand it. (I suggest biochemistry, that's the real shit, and NOBODY pretends to know more than they know in that field, unlike physics, where any punter has an opinion. People think they can talk about physics without knowing any physics, no-one bullshits about biochemistry without knowing biochemistry, if you see what I mean)
@@escandolosoamargo I cannot focus on any one topic for too long (ADHD sucks like that). I have not gone down the rabbit hole in biochemistry exactly, but I did check out Evolutionary Developmental biology. The longer you study this field, the more you become convinced that life is no accident.
The current book I am reading is Crime and Punishment (recommended by those who are well studied). The first half is drudgery. The author is all over the place and it is difficult to figure out the places and people as new ones pop in and out. This may be due to poor translation from Russian. I had a realization as the characters are describing criminal activity as a byproduct of their environment that when a civilization is approaching the brink, criminal activity becomes more common, but I did not see any meaningful statistics in previous collapses. The more I read, especially in various subject matter, the more I feel I am unlocking. I am not much interested in specializing or mastering any one particular field. And I quite agree about computer programming. VB, Java, Python and C++... No more... I like what little hair I have left on my head!!
Tengo la sensación que observamos y calculamos el macro/mini universo y es posible que la mayoría de las veces interpretamos erróneo lo que se nos revela !
Happy New Year wonderful Anton
deltaE times delta t is equal to or larger than Planck's constant divided by 4 pi. Aka, for a short amount of time there can be a positive amount of energy or vice versa a negative time at which an event takes place. Good old Heisenberg.
Exciting. Excellent paper. ✅⛄️🎄⛄️🎄
Eh, so here's another take -
We have learned a lot about "average" values about quantum phenomena (such as the average weight of any given atom including times when a rogue charm quark pops in and affects the weight) such that dealing with average values in systems that don't or can't express in average ways when it comes to how one atom or electron gained energy or lost energy based on photonic bombardment.
What this seems to be, from all I've read and seen to far, is similar to how we measure things like red shift of any given star - if a photon is emitted while the emitting mediums are in regression of the view port, it red shifts compared to the emitting object being observed, and blue shifts if the medium is moving toward the view port - how astronomers establish the spin of any given astronomical object.
So, when talking on the scale of photons to a single Rubidium atom, it would seem that the incoming photon may "skim" an electron, leaving way earlier than a photon that hits the electron with a directly perpendicular vector, causing absorption, and release at a different wavelength. Here, it may or may not be the electron "spin" property, but it may also be - given that photons are smaller than electrons, that a vector that doesn't quite impact a given electron may produce values that are lower than the expected average value because the trig value of impact can't be measured with modern measurement tools in large aggregates like this - causing a statistical anomaly.
And, speaking as a layman, it occurs to me that there may be an interaction not factored into the average re-transmission expectation, such as the trig values of actual impact compared to the average trig values from older measurements. I don't see this as negative time, but rather that our model doesn't totally compensate for the fact that given the size difference, a photon may only be partially deflected by the electron's mass, but also may directly impact an electron, causing energy gain and re-emission. As an aggregate, this sort of behaviour may appear as negative time if all you have to compare it to is average values measured from a point in time of research when we ONLY had average values to look at.
But again, as a layman, I might be completely off.
Layman here as well, but your description had me imagining the possibility of photons being captured in the orbit of electrons, +/- orbital decay. Similarly, are there photons that pass just close enough to an electron cloud to change course, like a slingshot, rather than deflect or absorb?
I know that's a pretty Newtonian way of thinking about it, but eh *shrugs*
That's all too classical. In quantum terms there's no meaningful sense in which , for instance, "photons are smaller than electrons" (electrons are elementary particles and so are taken to have _zero_ spatial extent - essentially they have _no_ size). And photons aren't going to be measurably affected by the electron's _mass_ either BTW.
Your comment seems based on electrons being hard planet-like balls orbiting a sun-like nucleus and photons doing "flybys" of them, like spacecraft using gravity assists. None of that is accurate and neither are any of your suppositions made on that basis.
So basically it's "negative time" in that it was faster than expected and we set "expected" to 0, like a speedrun split
Sounds like quantum lag, maybe?
I might be misunderstanding this.
Could some of the particles be tunneling through time? (similar to how they sometimes tunnel through space in the presence of a barrier.)
Hypothesis: There must be a quantum level pressure wave preceding the photon which is transmitted by far smaller random soup of particles, which is only able to be seen in the rubidium, as a secondary excitation, basically events caused by this disturbance when photon groups are shot into the area. What you are seeing is the existence of another phenomenon unrelated to the photons themselves. The pressure waves does move faster than the photons once they enter the medium, slowing them (the photons) but the excitation (the pressure wave) will propagate at the speed of light due to near instance contact within the medium, and not be affected, while the photons are affected. That "pressure" is the manifestation of the slowing effect upon the photons themselves. What we then observe is the pressure wave moving through the medium ahead of the photons, which is what excites the rubidium, and not the photons- the results show only one thing- but not the photons themselves, which may lag behind the pressure wave. This could explain a lot in terms of the double slit experiments, and other wave related interactions of photons and electrons. No idea how to test that.
First, Daniela is cute in all states! Second, as Hawking pointed out in the Information paradox, you have to consider all universes in the multiverse. In some universes those rubidium atoms didn’t exist so overall in the multiverse there is no negative time because it gets washed out.
On the other hand, population inversion is the inefficiency of a quantum well laser. A gas is inside a box, the inner walls of the box has different layers of materials and as the electrons orbit the nucleus they get caught in the these different layers of materials and it releases a photon to drop to a lower energy state. Ideally the photo bounced back and forth between a fully reflective mirror at the back and a partially reflective mirror in the front. Some photons get absorbed in the gas cloud on their way to the mirror and that’s called population inversion.
I always wanted to scale up a quantum well laser to a fusion reactor. You pump in the deuterium, use an electromagnet to draw the deuterium to the inner walls, create a very dense, very hot laser between two fully reflective mirrors, then change the polarity on their way magnet and push it into a small compact cloud in the middle of the laser to create fusion.
This is like doing my 8 hour job before I actually leave for work................this is a model I can embrace.............
We have this program called severance if you'd like to apply.
@@danny_invadio Oh please, tell me more - it sounds exciting..............☺
What I like about quantum mechanics is that it’s not about why it’s happening, but what is happening. At least this stage.
In my opinion, it appears that this phenomenon is related not to the photons,but rather to the electrons returning back to ground state. I guess there is something with that delay we don't fully understand...
Presumably quantum tunnelling works with the time dimension as well as the spatial dimensions.
The other possibility is that the photons experienced negative space. Probably due to phase alignment of the photon's EM wave and the atom's electron's EM wave in the same plane (aligned polarity) creating a sort of rogue wave phenomena that collapsed into a subatomic wormhole.
I would expect these outcomes. Watch the W bosons and the individual energy levels of hadrons. The interaction is causing lepton particle/antiparticle reactions at high energy levels.
The energy can be so high that it causes the creation of positrons. This is what that looks like.
Maybe something is still missing. Rough analogy: Up into the Middle Ages astrologers were puzzled by retrograde planetary movements and other timing issues and constructed very complex models of the universe consisting of celestials spheres inside celestial spheres to try to explain all these anomalies.
However, once the heliocentric model of the solar system was introduced, all those problems disappeared. It all started to make sense. My takeaway is that if it starts getting more and more complicated, the problem is often at the root concept, not the details
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First of all, I love and apreciate añl of your content (and all the effort behind) you put for free to feed minds (As a Physicist I can really tell)
To answer your question, I will suggest that maybe some kind of effect, entanglin type, may cause that the emission is forced in a spacial spot way separate from the interaction of excitation happens. I mean, a enough distant entangled point from the photon interaction to violate the speed of light limit if you measure the distance from absortion to emision. Meaning some queantum effect of entanglement afecting areas at some scale (nanoscale) makes it, aparently violate space/time constraints. But, in this case, because it is. I mean, some kind of quantum "teleportation"
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These findings are very weird and curious like is it some kind of entanglement happening or is it some kind of field interaction must know more thank you Anton and thank you. Wonderful people.
Anton, anything and everything is possible.
Why should the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which deals with position and motion, be confined to just space and not spacetime?
There have to be effects that travel back in time and can carry some form of information.
First we will have to see, if the statistical analysis holds the check of other groups. If it holds it seems very similar to the phase shift a group does when passing a resonator, which it is to small for the wavelength were some of the photons seems to travel faster then light.
The so-called "quantum" superposition, interference and entanglement effects can be accounted for as non-Markov stochastic processes. No physical waves are needed. The wavefunction (and QFT "field") is only a model for this stochastic dynamics if you beg for a smooth uni-directional time evolution story (i.e., beg for trivial spacetime topology). Don't be beggars.
The photons are entering adjacent dimensions with different spacetime expansion compared to c space which explains the time difference.
My guess is the effect of gravity on quantum interactions is responsible for some of the weirdness of quantum mechanics.
We know our theories and math are wrong or incomplete because we don’t understand gravity on the quantum and universe scale (the dark matter issue). While I don’t think resolving this issue will remove all the weirdness of quantum mechanics, I think it will sort out many of the issues.
We have a known gap in our understanding, so it makes sense we’d get baffling test results.
Wonder if something like this will explain dark matter. Time dilation video from last week was awesome