classic vilgax was menacing. after that, he was just straight up disappointing and RIDICULOUS. the only version of vilgax i loved after the classic one was the ultimate alien finale vilgax
To me, THE defining Vilgax moment will always be that scene between him and Six-Six in Secret of the Omnitrix. Six-Six has like a dozen guns pointed at Vil’s back, and it just takes one sentence to make the bounty hunter back down: “You had best be VERY sure.” Shit gave me chills as a kid.
@@elusivent thank you my friend, I thought it accurate, especially because at one point, Vilgax basically beats Ben 10 version of Cthulhu in Ultimate Alien.
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I think it gave so much unknown into his character, the introduction and constant stages of change he was in in the first few seasons of classic gave the cliche "villain always watching" trope that you see in shows like Power Rangers. HOWEVER the build-up of meeting vilgax as well as his POV shows the world as INCREDIBLY IMMERSIVE and constantly moving with pieces behind the scene not privy to the viewer. It allowed alot of children to be given questions and depictions of something we know happened but not the how, when, or why (until later episodes and series gave context) It was incredibly ambitious of a show with a concept as saturday morning as a watch with several heroes you can turn into to go for a continous and serialized storyline in the early 2000's its definitely one of the script writing ancestors of things like adult/large storytelling in childrens mediums in the first 2 series, while im sure theres an arguement that the final 2 series were ancestors to the multiverse concept in media.
That part where smashed the mountain wasn't a wasted attempt to try to smash XLR8. When they were falling through the air, both their terminal velocity was the same. Neutralizing XLR8's speed. Levelling the playing field.
Vilgax sounded scary to me everytime he says "the omnitrix" when I was a kid, also not only is his design amazing. I enjoyed every moment whenever he tries to steal or mess up the watch, like other villains do in the Ben 10 series, it gets personal since WE as the audience didn't want Ben to lose his powers.
Classic Vilgax is still my favorite Ben 10 villain. Personally I don’t think later writers really understood what made him work and just saw a generic evil overlord (which in fairness he is) and tried to do more with him in an attempt to make him a layered character that had mixed results. AF tried to make Vilgax more complex and more interesting by having him exploit conquering planets legally by challenging their greatest heroes then stealing their powers. I can see what they were trying to do, but I think they undercut Vilgax’s competence unintentionally. Ben beating Vilgax with Diamond Head was clearly meant to show how much Ben improved by defeating Vilgax with one of his original aliens, but it had the opposite effect for a lot of fans. They saw Vilgax easily counter the original aliens abilities with his basic cybernetic enhancements. Showing him lose when he stolen the powers of alien heroes just made him look weaker. As much as I like AF/UA series I do think a consistent problem it had was how it overhaul classic elements from the original series without much explanation. It reminds me how they completely changed Doctor Animo to DeVoid with no real explanation. Sure they made him more threatening, but they lost what made the character so popular. I really do believe Vilgax could have worked well in later series if the later writers tapped into what made him such a beloved villain in classic series and added newer elements they wanted to add. Vilgax abusing galactic law to conquer planets legally, is smart. If they just gave Vilgax the same nonsense and determined personality he had in the classics it probably would have went over well with fans. Combine the cyborg elements with stolen super powers elements. Keep the hulking cyborg Vilgax, but have the stolen powers from the champions of the planets he conquered be to specifically deal with newer aliens Ben unlocked. Don’t have Ben win by using Diamond Head. Make it so Vilgax has to leave the challenge, because his home planet was under attack by the real Ghostfreak. That way it introduces the Vilgax is a hero on his home planet that AF writers wanted, has him leave to save his home after he proved he could beat Ben and his current aliens, and makes Vilgax still have the same presence he had in the classic series, while allowing the later writers to add elements they wanted to add to him. Keep Vilgax a master of the Omnitrix who can still use it. Lose the Primus plot where Vilgax cannot figure out how to work the watch and needs Ben to do it. That was a low point for the character and IMO showed the new writers didn’t take into consideration for how the character was written in the original series.
Dwayne mcduffie was the main writer of the uaf era he wanted to do his own take on the ben 10 and he ruined majority of the characters and made everything in ben 10 about aliens.
I think after Classic they should've Just said Vilgax died, if the one we saw in UA and UAF was his son or something it would've been better in my opinion, Plus, it opens him up to a redemption arc
@@hassanabdullah2425 Dwayne McDuffie only worked on Alien Force Season 1 & 2. Season 3 & Ultimate Alien he had little involvement with, because they were done by completely different writers.
@@Asaylum117 and he reconned pretty much everything. He made every villain and every character into a knock off of an already existing comic book character.
Vilgax is hyped up to be a threat from the very beginning and between his massive hulking stature and his single minded determination to get to Omnitrix, he’s just a great arch enemy for Ben
I think what makes classic vilgax works is he stand out is despite his whole design is a big muscle brute(well after he was recovered atleast) , his approach are more tactical base but is still more then willing to handle things himself despite being well resourced with an army, kinda like comic accurate Bane from batman
Vilgax is a war general who conquered various alien planets through sheer power and strategy the fact he has such an overwhelming army which gives him experience to deal with Ben's aliens easily the fact he desires the Omnitrix to make him invincible perfects his goal and aim and even without the Omnitrix he's near unstoppable it's a shame how he was made a joke and his status became "a villain of the day" rather than the final boss he truly was the best in classic and it's not even close
@@JabamiLain yeah he lost his aura and presence after classic and it's a real shame the high breed and Kevin took that presence in alien force and ultimate alien
@@freezasama5802nah ! Let's not drag Kevin's name down. He's a great character. I feel bad he was only redeemed at his teenage years though. He lost much of his childhood. Btw, do you think Vilgax would make a good hero ? I'm reading this fic called "Dark Mirror", which is pretty much the Omniverse's Earth 3, and many of Ben's villains actually work well as heroes, and many of his allies make amazing villains.
@@JabamiLain well he would be an amazing hero Ultimate Alien kinda played with that idea but he would be great he could aid Ben on how to use the omnitrix perfectly as well as teach him strategies on how to beat their enemies and he can use his army to win any battle
You're going to have to talk about Vilgax's worst aura moment to exist. He legit had the watch and was wearing it. Ben, gwen, and kevin were captured. He didn't know how to use it. Ben tells him Azmuth doesn't know how to work the watch and how only he does? Vilgax gets fully gaslit, so vilgax offers to free kevin and gwen if ben shows him. Ben then transforms him into goop, vilgax then flies around in the air and tests out acid powers on just rocks. Then proceeded to stand in place while ben does a front flip over him and turn off goop's gravity. Ben just picks up the watch, vilgax transforms back to normal, then just passes out.
Yep, one of the dumbest sequences and it also showed how little the writers cared about Vilgax at that point. He was shown as being incredibly smart and cunning, and someone who knew a lot about the Omnitrix, it makes no sense for him to not understand how to use the Omnitrix
This vilgax is the greatest, he lives up to the expectation he serious and is taken seriously by literally everyone Not only is he strong and a tank he can buff his strength even more and constantly solos almost all of ben aliens and he gets this respect that adds to his aura he ain't talking the whole time etc he just kicking ass he barely says anything and when he does it's to tell you he's hin
Let's not forget that moment in AF where Vilgax gets the Omnitrix but asks Ben how to activate it because he completely forgot how to do it and still ends up being tricked by him That's -10,000 aura right there
I SCREAMED when I saw this thumbnail! Vilgax is the baddest SICKEST dude in the galaxy! His Aura leaves you screaming awwwhhh shhhh!!! I loved this video solely on the shoutout! Vilgax is an extreme anti-cosmic badass with his appropriately ranked designed! I think one part you could’ve talked more about was how freaking hard he mirked K11 after breaking out of cryostasis after ages of floating through space! THAT IS FEAR!!! I love you, Man! VILGAX FTW!!!
I know everyone hates the "you stabbed me" line but my personal least favorite Vilgax line was in Alien Force season 3 episode 2 where he says this corny ass Disney sitcom line. "Ben 10 I've come to kill you... Is now a bad time?" - insert sitcom laughing track
THAT DEFiNiTELY WAZ A SiTCOM LiNE, BUT iT AT LEAZT SHOWZ & STiCKZ TO HiZ CHARACTER FAR FAR MORE THAN THE SWORD STAB [SiTCOM LiNE] i KiNDA LiKED iT TOO, SHOWED HiZ ARROGANCE & CONFiDENCE WiTH THAT SMiLE ON TOP OF iT [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
TO RDC_DOM THAT DEFiNiTELY WAZ A SiTCOM LiNE, BUT iT AT LEAZT SHOWZ & STiCKZ TO HiZ CHARACTER FAR FAR MORE THAN THE SWORD STAB [SiTCOM LiNE] i KiNDA LiKED iT TOO, SHOWED HiZ ARROGANCE & CONFiDENCE WiTH THAT SMiLE ON TOP OF iT [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
I'm glad we can all agree that the original had the best vilgax but let's not sleep on all his other version except the reboot...... Can we also forget about Mal Verdel
give reboot credit vilgax credit where its due. he did manage to play around with Celestialsapien DNA for a bit. (though honestly his AntiVilgax transformation earlier in the film seemed more effective overall) but yeah no og vilgax is still best vilgax
The classic Vilgax, just the look alone, is enough to tell that you need a LOT more powerful alien like himself to do some damage but will still be durable against whatever comes
Classic Vilgax is an absolute menace. He has an intimidating presence, vast resources at his command, a sharp tactical mind, he is a major physical threat, and he is singularly determined to get that watch off of Ben's wrist by any means necessary. This is why Classic Vilgax is not only the best Vilgax, but one of the best villains in the Ben 10 franchise.
He worked in the classic series because he's the typical looming villain that remains threatening until the very end of the story. Like how the Firelord also had so much build up in the avatar (he didn't even make a full appearance until the last season). Or even Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. You get my point. That's what I noticed in most shows and movies nowadays. Especially for ones that are designed to run for a long time. Their villains are mostly one shot and get beaten in an episode or the end of one season.
4:50 I always saw it as Vilgax being absolutely shocked by the fact that everything it took to both defeat him and take away Dagon's power is a simple stab.
I used to think diamondhead was the strongest because he was made of diamond after all, the strongest thing but when vilgax one tapped diamondhead, Vilgax officially became peak villain
What I think makes Vilgax so cool is the intro. The whole reason Vilgax doesn’t show up himself to get the Omnitrix is because he literally can’t due to his ship exploding in the first episode. He sends goons and machines to get the Omnitrix for him while he recovers, but he eventually heals enough to be able to get down and do it himself, due to all of his previous plans failing.
I was sheeting my pants from classic Vilgax. I was 6 when classic came out. Been immediately hooked. I remember every time I saw an episode with him, it was just so scary, because there was no way for Ben to win against him in physical battle, and that was apparent from the first time they fought. I genuinely felt the pressure and the stake of their encounters.
He worked because everyone took him seriously, so that meant that we, the audience, should. As Ben got more confident fighting him, he seemed less threatening. If this kid isn't scared, why should we be?
@@LostStudios73 Yep, they should have had Ben some what affected mentally by Vilgax. Even if not afraid, he should be serious mode at all times when Vil is involved, due to the traumatic events of their first encounters. Ben getting Vilgax a Happy Meal was when they had given up on anyone taking him seriously. They treated that Space Aussie as more of a threat than Vilgax in OV.
@_V.Va_ they should have made even mentioning vilgax . The entire crew stopped joking around and become serious, making it seem like vilgax was not some villian of the week he's a monster to the point where even so much mentioning his name causes even the greatest hero to freeze hell have proffesor paradox freeze if someone mentions vilgax like thats how big of a threat he is
While I think the UAF era is the best era for Ben 10, I do believe that Vilgax was definitely at his peak in the classic series. His presence felt way more grand, where in the other series he just kind of felt like a regular reoccurring villain. Tbh I actually think Kevin was my favorite villain in the original series, and my favorite character in the overall franchise due to his character arc, and chemistry with Ben.
Bro falls into the villain decay Orochimaru suffered. He may still be a villain, but compared to how he was originally, its impossible to take him seriously anymore. He's definitely not an ally to Ben, but... He knows that Ben is a rival but someone he can call if he ABSOLUTELY needs help, no matter how much he doesnt want to ask his arch nemesis for help.
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Also the fact when Kevin Levin says "No matter where i went in the galaxy, They kept bringing your name up. So lets see how tough u are" and then Vilgax just starts bodying Kevin.
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The dream of my childhood self who grew up with classic Ben 10 is that it gets the samurai Jack treatment. Retcon everything after the classic show and give us an adult, darker show that has grown along with its audience cuz we aint kids anymore
I agree so much with you. classic Vilgax is the goat and they nerfed my boi to the ground. imagine what if OV Ben would fight the OS Vilgax after training for 6 years and not going through that "conqueror of ten worlds" phase. The only result we have close to my vision is Future Vilgax from Ben 10,000 episode
Ben 10k Vilgax is a whole ass nightmare. You tell me that this man that bodied 6 of my 10 aliens is back, and he has counters to each one?? He even has counters to the ones I didn't use yet?! AND HE STILL WANTS THE WATCH?!
Classic Vilgax has the most aura in all of Ben 10. Even in classic Ben’s future, Animo who is one of bens biggest villains, aimed to bring back Vilgax😂
Vilgax even has reasons to hate tennysons I mean what grandpa max did to him when he was younger lol 😂 (Spoiler:- He tied vilgax to a rocket launched the rocket to space which crashed and exploded on his ship he was in pieces and has to escape and reconfigure his body ) Thats how he got buff after augments
Something I love about Vilgax in the classic and before that in the timeline is that he was always a man of his word. He helped Maltruant, spared Gwen and Max for Ben, and didn't betray Kevin in the null void. Just for all of them to betray or desert him. No wonder he betrayed any of his future allies.
Great video man, one thing I’d say for some constructive criticism is to implement more synonyms. For example between 1:26-1:41 (15 seconds) you said omnitrix 6 times. Half of these easily could’ve been replaced by words such as device, watch, or even just “it”. This is repeated a couple times throughout the rest of the video too with other words. Such as the aura part of the video. Between 2:50 and 2:58 (8 seconds) you said aura 4 times. Most of these could be replaced or rephrased to sound less clunky. Still a great video man, just trying to point out areas that could be improved really easily for the future video to be even better 😁
7:30 the omnitrix transformes ben into somthing that will save him, if an attack would kill him (will not work if the attack only knocks him out, i think) but yeah kinda plot armor...
The aura thing is what I feels really made Classic Vilgax stand out so much. Just the fact that he shrugs off everything Ben throws at him, and he only stays ahead of Vilgax whenever he's got the ability to change quickly into new forms. His first proper appearance, Ben threw practically his whole playlist at the guy, and nothing really works - or at least, not for long.
Classic Vilgax was perfect, in UAF he was alright, Omniverse i don’t want to talk about it and the reboot was a different take but still bad i just liked the fact Ben actually could turn into his species for a bit but the best version and more intimidating was the Original series and kind of UAF the rest don’t count at all.
Bruv he had two great episodes where he was intimidating as f. Uaf vilgax was a thanos rip off who got his ass kicked by any other alien despite having the power of 10 planets. He was an embarrassment who came asking for bens help and actually had a code of honor? Like you were going to unalive children in classic. And he's played as this anti hero warlord while he is sposed to be a banished criminal mastermind.
I disagree, Vilgax was treated with respect by the writers in the entirety of Classic. And my point about Omniverse Vilgax being a bum still stands. At least UAF Vilgax could actually fight and conquered ten worlds, whereas Omniverse Vilgax was scared to fight the Attea and her bounty hunters, Attea for Pete's sake!!!
@@IronDoom-e5n he still beat Ben with an inch of his life in malgax attacks. And have you seen the incursions? Their army is 10 times the size of vilgax with way better weapons he would get obliterated. Vilgax got his ass kicked after concerning 10 planets by diamond head. He abosorbed dagons power only to get oneshoted. He came begging for bens help and let him go despite having him at his planet (he's supposed to be a dude who would unalive children like it's nothing). He got beat by Ben every single time he never won against Ben in the whole uaf let that sink in.
@@hassanabdullah2425 First: He did not beat Ben "within an inch of his life" Ben was just winded and he only did that with albedos help Malwares armor to do that so that doesn't count. Second: Vilgax was not fighting the entire incursion race, it was just Attea and her bounty hunters in an empty prison. Mind you, he beat the shit out of "six six" in secrets of the Omnitrix. Third: Vilgax needed Ben's help because Ghost Freak could possess his people, something he couldn't counter and Ben was the only one who could trap Ghost freak back in the Omnitrix. And while yes he was beaten by Diamond Head, he did beat Big Chill, Jet ray, Humungasour and Chromastone some of Ben's most powerful aliens at the time. Before Omniverse Vilgax ever got the Malware armor what did he do?? Nothing he was just a joke of a Villian, who was played for laughs.
@@IronDoom-e5n it's hilarious his hands were binded and if he pissed off attea the whole incursion army would have obliterated him. He begged Ben for help and then let him go despite having the best chance to beat him. He beat Ben after taking the malware armor that's called being smart and knowing your enemy. He knows he can't beat Ben without external help. I mean the uaf literally is a documentation of all the Ls vilgax takes. He also pretty much destroyed all Ben 10s. "You stabbed me" after all that build up. At least it didn't take itself seriously when it was making jokes. Someone literally sat down to write this. He actually appeared 3 times excluding gags. And he betrayed Ben and removed all Ben 10s from existence and whooped bens ass.
I love the Vilgax from "Ben 10: Dark Mirror". Him as a rebel hero works surprisingly well. Lots of "Ben 10" villains work as heroes and vice-versa, surprisingly. Except Ghostfreak, Sublimino and Zombozo. I like them more as villains.
He lacks a backstory and what motivated him into being what he is today. I'm not gonna compare him to Thanos who had a family, backstory and entire lore explained in comics for decades.
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The moment he lost his mask he lost his Aura
Bro went from the embodiment of Chatulu in physical form
To Davy Jones' adopted cousin
Ngl I liked his appearence better with the mask piece cause it hidded his expression, making him more intimidating and opposing
@@Joenotmamaya it made him look emotionally null which played into his alien overlord look
@@voidpope Also, they could have saved some Money not having to animate this mouth every time he spoke if he still had his mask on.
I agree. Vilgax in Classic was the best one
The second best vilgax is ironically the reboot version
He just had that PRESENCE.
And that's what the other versions lacked.
@@ashlirabid9614 I agree
Your not wrong. Classic Vilgax is the goat
classic vilgax was menacing. after that, he was just straight up disappointing and RIDICULOUS. the only version of vilgax i loved after the classic one was the ultimate alien finale vilgax
To me, THE defining Vilgax moment will always be that scene between him and Six-Six in Secret of the Omnitrix. Six-Six has like a dozen guns pointed at Vil’s back, and it just takes one sentence to make the bounty hunter back down: “You had best be VERY sure.”
Shit gave me chills as a kid.
“You had better be VERY sure.” Yes, that was such an iconic and great Vilgax moment.
Not just one sentence bro
He flexes his forearms also
And six six just gives up lol
@@toragon2736 safe to say, he wasn’t entirely sure.
Vilgax was Thanos of our childhood
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He really was, I think he was even more menacing though, he was Thanos combined with Cthulhu.
@@t-rexcellentreviews1663 the best way to describe him honestly.
@@elusivent thank you my friend, I thought it accurate, especially because at one point, Vilgax basically beats Ben 10 version of Cthulhu in Ultimate Alien.
More like Darkseid, he had those omega beam-like laser eyes.
In classic. Vilgax felt more like a force of nature,unstoppable,unrelenting and bound to win by the end
Like Firelord Ozai
He was literal personification of fear!
İts the mask that do the trick. The moment ı stop using it,all of my charisma left me.
Classic Vilgax was the ultimate final boss in cartoon history.
Behold, as I reshape the universe to my own design.
First, I shall destroy the Tennysons!
And then, I will erase ALL Traces of Their Homeworld!!
From The Eternal Fabric Of Time And Space ITSELF!!!
😎 Say less 😎
Classic Vilgax actually *felt* like an intergalactic warlord instead of a supervillain like he does in later series
Theres a reason why this vilgax scared me as a kid ANYTIME he showed up. I was sorely disappointed with the way they did him afterwards
They could’ve done a better job in alien /ultimate. He should be stronger than ever especially since he absorbed 10 of the strongest aliens.
0:42 STANDING HERE I REALIZE
Nanomachines human.
Can't fret over every alien
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I think it gave so much unknown into his character, the introduction and constant stages of change he was in in the first few seasons of classic gave the cliche "villain always watching" trope that you see in shows like Power Rangers.
HOWEVER the build-up of meeting vilgax as well as his POV shows the world as INCREDIBLY IMMERSIVE and constantly moving with pieces behind the scene not privy to the viewer. It allowed alot of children to be given questions and depictions of something we know happened but not the how, when, or why (until later episodes and series gave context)
It was incredibly ambitious of a show with a concept as saturday morning as a watch with several heroes you can turn into to go for a continous and serialized storyline in the early 2000's its definitely one of the script writing ancestors of things like adult/large storytelling in childrens mediums in the first 2 series, while im sure theres an arguement that the final 2 series were ancestors to the multiverse concept in media.
That part where smashed the mountain wasn't a wasted attempt to try to smash XLR8.
When they were falling through the air, both their terminal velocity was the same. Neutralizing XLR8's speed. Levelling the playing field.
Classic Vilgax looks like a dude Thanos would kick back and vibe with
Vilgax sounded scary to me everytime he says "the omnitrix" when I was a kid, also not only is his design amazing. I enjoyed every moment whenever he tries to steal or mess up the watch, like other villains do in the Ben 10 series, it gets personal since WE as the audience didn't want Ben to lose his powers.
Classic Vilgax is still my favorite Ben 10 villain. Personally I don’t think later writers really understood what made him work and just saw a generic evil overlord (which in fairness he is) and tried to do more with him in an attempt to make him a layered character that had mixed results. AF tried to make Vilgax more complex and more interesting by having him exploit conquering planets legally by challenging their greatest heroes then stealing their powers. I can see what they were trying to do, but I think they undercut Vilgax’s competence unintentionally. Ben beating Vilgax with Diamond Head was clearly meant to show how much Ben improved by defeating Vilgax with one of his original aliens, but it had the opposite effect for a lot of fans. They saw Vilgax easily counter the original aliens abilities with his basic cybernetic enhancements. Showing him lose when he stolen the powers of alien heroes just made him look weaker.
As much as I like AF/UA series I do think a consistent problem it had was how it overhaul classic elements from the original series without much explanation. It reminds me how they completely changed Doctor Animo to DeVoid with no real explanation. Sure they made him more threatening, but they lost what made the character so popular.
I really do believe Vilgax could have worked well in later series if the later writers tapped into what made him such a beloved villain in classic series and added newer elements they wanted to add. Vilgax abusing galactic law to conquer planets legally, is smart. If they just gave Vilgax the same nonsense and determined personality he had in the classics it probably would have went over well with fans. Combine the cyborg elements with stolen super powers elements. Keep the hulking cyborg Vilgax, but have the stolen powers from the champions of the planets he conquered be to specifically deal with newer aliens Ben unlocked. Don’t have Ben win by using Diamond Head. Make it so Vilgax has to leave the challenge, because his home planet was under attack by the real Ghostfreak. That way it introduces the Vilgax is a hero on his home planet that AF writers wanted, has him leave to save his home after he proved he could beat Ben and his current aliens, and makes Vilgax still have the same presence he had in the classic series, while allowing the later writers to add elements they wanted to add to him.
Keep Vilgax a master of the Omnitrix who can still use it. Lose the Primus plot where Vilgax cannot figure out how to work the watch and needs Ben to do it. That was a low point for the character and IMO showed the new writers didn’t take into consideration for how the character was written in the original series.
Dwayne mcduffie was the main writer of the uaf era he wanted to do his own take on the ben 10 and he ruined majority of the characters and made everything in ben 10 about aliens.
@@hassanabdullah2425 Whatever you're smoking must be studied
I think after Classic they should've Just said Vilgax died, if the one we saw in UA and UAF was his son or something it would've been better in my opinion, Plus, it opens him up to a redemption arc
@@hassanabdullah2425 Dwayne McDuffie only worked on Alien Force Season 1 & 2. Season 3 & Ultimate Alien he had little involvement with, because they were done by completely different writers.
@@Asaylum117 and he reconned pretty much everything. He made every villain and every character into a knock off of an already existing comic book character.
This version shows that he ain't Messing around.
Unless he wants you to suffer.
Gwen: Do you have to remove my arm?
Vilgax: No.
Vilgax is hyped up to be a threat from the very beginning and between his massive hulking stature and his single minded determination to get to Omnitrix, he’s just a great arch enemy for Ben
“IT IS OVER TENNYSON! I HAVE DEPICTED YOU AS A SOYJAK, AND ME, VILGAX, AS THE CHAD, NOW SURRENDER THE OMNITRIX!”
.....a jhett reference?
I think what makes classic vilgax works is he stand out is despite his whole design is a big muscle brute(well after he was recovered atleast) , his approach are more tactical base but is still more then willing to handle things himself despite being well resourced with an army, kinda like comic accurate Bane from batman
Vilgax is a war general who conquered various alien planets through sheer power and strategy the fact he has such an overwhelming army which gives him experience to deal with Ben's aliens easily the fact he desires the Omnitrix to make him invincible perfects his goal and aim and even without the Omnitrix he's near unstoppable it's a shame how he was made a joke and his status became "a villain of the day" rather than the final boss he truly was the best in classic and it's not even close
Wow ! That's SUCH a downgrade. A very unfair one.
@@JabamiLain yeah he lost his aura and presence after classic and it's a real shame the high breed and Kevin took that presence in alien force and ultimate alien
@@freezasama5802nah ! Let's not drag Kevin's name down. He's a great character. I feel bad he was only redeemed at his teenage years though. He lost much of his childhood.
Btw, do you think Vilgax would make a good hero ? I'm reading this fic called "Dark Mirror", which is pretty much the Omniverse's Earth 3, and many of Ben's villains actually work well as heroes, and many of his allies make amazing villains.
@@JabamiLain well he would be an amazing hero Ultimate Alien kinda played with that idea but he would be great he could aid Ben on how to use the omnitrix perfectly as well as teach him strategies on how to beat their enemies and he can use his army to win any battle
You're going to have to talk about Vilgax's worst aura moment to exist. He legit had the watch and was wearing it. Ben, gwen, and kevin were captured. He didn't know how to use it. Ben tells him Azmuth doesn't know how to work the watch and how only he does? Vilgax gets fully gaslit, so vilgax offers to free kevin and gwen if ben shows him. Ben then transforms him into goop, vilgax then flies around in the air and tests out acid powers on just rocks. Then proceeded to stand in place while ben does a front flip over him and turn off goop's gravity. Ben just picks up the watch, vilgax transforms back to normal, then just passes out.
That ate his reputation
Yep, one of the dumbest sequences and it also showed how little the writers cared about Vilgax at that point. He was shown as being incredibly smart and cunning, and someone who knew a lot about the Omnitrix, it makes no sense for him to not understand how to use the Omnitrix
This vilgax is the greatest, he lives up to the expectation he serious and is taken seriously by literally everyone
Not only is he strong and a tank he can buff his strength even more and constantly solos almost all of ben aliens and he gets this respect that adds to his aura he ain't talking the whole time etc he just kicking ass he barely says anything and when he does it's to tell you he's hin
Let's not forget that moment in AF where Vilgax gets the Omnitrix but asks Ben how to activate it because he completely forgot how to do it and still ends up being tricked by him
That's -10,000 aura right there
In fairness the omnitrix changed and vilgax had no way of knowing whether or not it still worked the same
I SCREAMED when I saw this thumbnail! Vilgax is the baddest SICKEST dude in the galaxy! His Aura leaves you screaming awwwhhh shhhh!!! I loved this video solely on the shoutout! Vilgax is an extreme anti-cosmic badass with his appropriately ranked designed! I think one part you could’ve talked more about was how freaking hard he mirked K11 after breaking out of cryostasis after ages of floating through space! THAT IS FEAR!!! I love you, Man! VILGAX FTW!!!
I know everyone hates the "you stabbed me" line but my personal least favorite Vilgax line was in Alien Force season 3 episode 2 where he says this corny ass Disney sitcom line.
"Ben 10 I've come to kill you... Is now a bad time?" - insert sitcom laughing track
I remember that 🤣
Lol same
THAT DEFiNiTELY WAZ A SiTCOM LiNE, BUT iT AT LEAZT SHOWZ & STiCKZ TO HiZ CHARACTER FAR FAR MORE THAN THE SWORD STAB
[SiTCOM LiNE] i KiNDA LiKED iT TOO, SHOWED HiZ ARROGANCE & CONFiDENCE WiTH THAT SMiLE ON TOP OF iT
[NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
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THAT DEFiNiTELY WAZ A SiTCOM LiNE, BUT iT AT LEAZT SHOWZ & STiCKZ TO HiZ CHARACTER FAR FAR MORE THAN THE SWORD STAB
[SiTCOM LiNE] i KiNDA LiKED iT TOO, SHOWED HiZ ARROGANCE & CONFiDENCE WiTH THAT SMiLE ON TOP OF iT
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THANKZ 4 THE LiKE iF iT WAZ U, THANKZ TO WHOEVER iT WAZ iF iT WAZN'T
I'm glad we can all agree that the original had the best vilgax but let's not sleep on all his other version except the reboot...... Can we also forget about Mal Verdel
give reboot credit vilgax credit where its due. he did manage to play around with
Celestialsapien DNA for a bit. (though honestly his AntiVilgax transformation earlier in the film seemed more effective overall)
but yeah no og vilgax is still best vilgax
Reboot Vilgax is on par with Classic Vilgax wdym “except the reboot version”? 💀
@@bluefire9285 no he's not reboot isn't even close
@@Keith_Norman Reboot Vilgax is easily one of the highlights of the show. He’s super well-written
I didn't watch all of reboot but what I've seen from reboot Vil is better than all the other 3 before especially for a comedy heavy show like reboot.
Classic vilgax was just more intimidating than the other versions
The classic Vilgax, just the look alone, is enough to tell that you need a LOT more powerful alien like himself to do some damage but will still be durable against whatever comes
Lore of Why Vilgax Works so Well in Ben 10 Classic? Momentum 100
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Vilgax was like nano machine son
Classic Vilgax is an absolute menace. He has an intimidating presence, vast resources at his command, a sharp tactical mind, he is a major physical threat, and he is singularly determined to get that watch off of Ben's wrist by any means necessary.
This is why Classic Vilgax is not only the best Vilgax, but one of the best villains in the Ben 10 franchise.
He worked in the classic series because he's the typical looming villain that remains threatening until the very end of the story. Like how the Firelord also had so much build up in the avatar (he didn't even make a full appearance until the last season). Or even Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. You get my point.
That's what I noticed in most shows and movies nowadays. Especially for ones that are designed to run for a long time. Their villains are mostly one shot and get beaten in an episode or the end of one season.
4:50 I always saw it as Vilgax being absolutely shocked by the fact that everything it took to both defeat him and take away Dagon's power is a simple stab.
I used to think diamondhead was the strongest because he was made of diamond after all, the strongest thing but when vilgax one tapped diamondhead, Vilgax officially became peak villain
What I think makes Vilgax so cool is the intro. The whole reason Vilgax doesn’t show up himself to get the Omnitrix is because he literally can’t due to his ship exploding in the first episode. He sends goons and machines to get the Omnitrix for him while he recovers, but he eventually heals enough to be able to get down and do it himself, due to all of his previous plans failing.
Every version after the classic was a downgrade
Exactly!
I was sheeting my pants from classic Vilgax. I was 6 when classic came out. Been immediately hooked. I remember every time I saw an episode with him, it was just so scary, because there was no way for Ben to win against him in physical battle, and that was apparent from the first time they fought. I genuinely felt the pressure and the stake of their encounters.
I think what made clasic Vilgax so scary and powerful feeling is his buildup and how he made the powers of Ben feeling so weak
He worked because everyone took him seriously, so that meant that we, the audience, should. As Ben got more confident fighting him, he seemed less threatening. If this kid isn't scared, why should we be?
That’s the point, if they just wrote him to constantly be a threatening figure to Ben then he would be a threatening figure to us the viewer too
@@LostStudios73 Yep, they should have had Ben some what affected mentally by Vilgax. Even if not afraid, he should be serious mode at all times when Vil is involved, due to the traumatic events of their first encounters. Ben getting Vilgax a Happy Meal was when they had given up on anyone taking him seriously.
They treated that Space Aussie as more of a threat than Vilgax in OV.
@@_V.Va_ Vilgax was a threat in ov too
@_V.Va_ they should have made even mentioning vilgax . The entire crew stopped joking around and become serious, making it seem like vilgax was not some villian of the week he's a monster to the point where even so much mentioning his name causes even the greatest hero to freeze hell have proffesor paradox freeze if someone mentions vilgax like thats how big of a threat he is
While I think the UAF era is the best era for Ben 10, I do believe that Vilgax was definitely at his peak in the classic series. His presence felt way more grand, where in the other series he just kind of felt like a regular reoccurring villain. Tbh I actually think Kevin was my favorite villain in the original series, and my favorite character in the overall franchise due to his character arc, and chemistry with Ben.
Bro falls into the villain decay Orochimaru suffered. He may still be a villain, but compared to how he was originally, its impossible to take him seriously anymore. He's definitely not an ally to Ben, but... He knows that Ben is a rival but someone he can call if he ABSOLUTELY needs help, no matter how much he doesnt want to ask his arch nemesis for help.
Gonna start posting Weekly on Mondays, and next Video gonna be about JJK or One Piece 🏴☠️
Edit: Thanks for all the comments they’re gonna take me some time to get through 😊
Also the fact when Kevin Levin says "No matter where i went in the galaxy, They kept bringing your name up. So lets see how tough u are" and then Vilgax just starts bodying Kevin.
When the entire galaxy speaks your name in fear, you know you're on some sauron level fear
gotta 100% agree w the aura segment, classic vilgax was the only vilgax that got me saying ah shit when hes on screen
Future Vilgax in Ben 10,000 episode was also scary
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Man I really miss classic ben 10
I re-watched a few months ago
And it's so damn good
The dream of my childhood self who grew up with classic Ben 10 is that it gets the samurai Jack treatment. Retcon everything after the classic show and give us an adult, darker show that has grown along with its audience cuz we aint kids anymore
I grew up with the entire franchise and have enjoyed alien force, ultimate alien, and somewhat omniverse. There should still be the edgy adult sequel
Classic vilgax will always be my favourite
Classic Vilgax is GOATED. On my Mt. Rushmore.
I think it was Steven Blum. They changed his voice in AF and his villainous presence just didn't hit the same.
Your combination of talking about Jujutsu Kaiser and Ben 10 is very interesting and unique.
I do that mainly because I don’t want to get suck making content on one series/show
Vader is unlimited Aura
Vilgax and Slade are most badass Cartoon Network villains.
Vilgax was ❤classic❤
I agree so much with you. classic Vilgax is the goat and they nerfed my boi to the ground.
imagine what if OV Ben would fight the OS Vilgax after training for 6 years and not going through that "conqueror of ten worlds" phase.
The only result we have close to my vision is Future Vilgax from Ben 10,000 episode
Vilgax was so goated in the classic series that they couldn't replicate it for the rest of the series's
Vilgax definitely peaked in the Classic series. He just didn't feel that intimidating anymore in UAF and Omniverse.
Ben 10k Vilgax is a whole ass nightmare. You tell me that this man that bodied 6 of my 10 aliens is back, and he has counters to each one?? He even has counters to the ones I didn't use yet?! AND HE STILL WANTS THE WATCH?!
Instead of Aura you could've just said he's Presence, Menancing, Ominous, idk bro anything else but Aura 😭
It feels like each variation of Vilgax got weaker as the show went on
Classic Vilgax has the most aura in all of Ben 10. Even in classic Ben’s future, Animo who is one of bens biggest villains, aimed to bring back Vilgax😂
I made my own interpritation of vilgax being a combo of the classic and reboot, as well as traits from the other iterations
Vilgax even has reasons to hate tennysons
I mean what grandpa max did to him when he was younger lol 😂
(Spoiler:-
He tied vilgax to a rocket launched the rocket to space which crashed and exploded on his ship he was in pieces and has to escape and reconfigure his body )
Thats how he got buff after augments
Steve Blum. Who voices Vilgax in OS and OV.
Was meant to voice Vilgax in AF. But, due to scheduling conflicts he couldn’t return.
Wish he was able too
Vilgax : absorbs 10 greatest planet protector powers….beaten by a teenager with years of practise with Diamondhead….
This is awesome dude
Vilgax from the classic was actually scary
Something I love about Vilgax in the classic and before that in the timeline is that he was always a man of his word. He helped Maltruant, spared Gwen and Max for Ben, and didn't betray Kevin in the null void. Just for all of them to betray or desert him. No wonder he betrayed any of his future allies.
Grandpa Max = Obi wan who lived
Gwen = Princess Leila
Ben = Luke Skywalker but op
Vilgax = Darth Vadar with no limitation
based cosmic destruction ost in the background
Great video man, one thing I’d say for some constructive criticism is to implement more synonyms.
For example between 1:26-1:41 (15 seconds) you said omnitrix 6 times. Half of these easily could’ve been replaced by words such as device, watch, or even just “it”.
This is repeated a couple times throughout the rest of the video too with other words. Such as the aura part of the video.
Between 2:50 and 2:58 (8 seconds) you said aura 4 times. Most of these could be replaced or rephrased to sound less clunky.
Still a great video man, just trying to point out areas that could be improved really easily for the future video to be even better 😁
I think he was best in Classic too. Also, he got multi shot by all those Bens and Gwen in that Omniverse moment to be fair, not one shot.
His design should had never changed
7:30 the omnitrix transformes ben into somthing that will save him, if an attack would kill him (will not work if the attack only knocks him out, i think) but yeah kinda plot armor...
The aura thing is what I feels really made Classic Vilgax stand out so much. Just the fact that he shrugs off everything Ben throws at him, and he only stays ahead of Vilgax whenever he's got the ability to change quickly into new forms. His first proper appearance, Ben threw practically his whole playlist at the guy, and nothing really works - or at least, not for long.
Vilgax is the Thanos of the Ben10 universe
Classic Vilgax beast
Ben 10 classic will always be the best Ben 10 of all time
Nice video! And I agree that Classic Vilgax has the most aura out all versions. Maybe even out of all Ben 10 villains
Classic Vilgax was perfect, in UAF he was alright, Omniverse i don’t want to talk about it and the reboot was a different take but still bad i just liked the fact Ben actually could turn into his species for a bit but the best version and more intimidating was the Original series and kind of UAF the rest don’t count at all.
The Lost?
More like The Aura
Seems to be your favorite word hahaha
It is
Omniverse Vilgax was an absolute disgrace!!! They turned one of the most intimdating Villians of all time into a pathetic bum. 🤢🤮
Bruv he had two great episodes where he was intimidating as f. Uaf vilgax was a thanos rip off who got his ass kicked by any other alien despite having the power of 10 planets. He was an embarrassment who came asking for bens help and actually had a code of honor? Like you were going to unalive children in classic. And he's played as this anti hero warlord while he is sposed to be a banished criminal mastermind.
I disagree, Vilgax was treated with respect by the writers in the entirety of Classic. And my point about Omniverse Vilgax being a bum still stands.
At least UAF Vilgax could actually fight and conquered ten worlds, whereas Omniverse Vilgax was scared to fight the Attea and her bounty hunters, Attea for Pete's sake!!!
@@IronDoom-e5n he still beat Ben with an inch of his life in malgax attacks. And have you seen the incursions? Their army is 10 times the size of vilgax with way better weapons he would get obliterated. Vilgax got his ass kicked after concerning 10 planets by diamond head. He abosorbed dagons power only to get oneshoted. He came begging for bens help and let him go despite having him at his planet (he's supposed to be a dude who would unalive children like it's nothing). He got beat by Ben every single time he never won against Ben in the whole uaf let that sink in.
@@hassanabdullah2425 First: He did not beat Ben "within an inch of his life" Ben was just winded and he only did that with albedos help Malwares armor to do that so that doesn't count.
Second: Vilgax was not fighting the entire incursion race, it was just Attea and her bounty hunters in an empty prison. Mind you, he beat the shit out of "six six" in secrets of the Omnitrix.
Third: Vilgax needed Ben's help because Ghost Freak could possess his people, something he couldn't counter and Ben was the only one who could trap Ghost freak back in the Omnitrix.
And while yes he was beaten by Diamond Head, he did beat Big Chill, Jet ray, Humungasour and Chromastone some of Ben's most powerful aliens at the time.
Before Omniverse Vilgax ever got the Malware armor what did he do?? Nothing he was just a joke of a Villian, who was played for laughs.
@@IronDoom-e5n it's hilarious his hands were binded and if he pissed off attea the whole incursion army would have obliterated him. He begged Ben for help and then let him go despite having the best chance to beat him. He beat Ben after taking the malware armor that's called being smart and knowing your enemy. He knows he can't beat Ben without external help. I mean the uaf literally is a documentation of all the Ls vilgax takes. He also pretty much destroyed all Ben 10s. "You stabbed me" after all that build up. At least it didn't take itself seriously when it was making jokes. Someone literally sat down to write this. He actually appeared 3 times excluding gags. And he betrayed Ben and removed all Ben 10s from existence and whooped bens ass.
Classic Vilgax amazing Vilgax
I love the Vilgax from "Ben 10: Dark Mirror". Him as a rebel hero works surprisingly well.
Lots of "Ben 10" villains work as heroes and vice-versa, surprisingly. Except Ghostfreak, Sublimino and Zombozo. I like them more as villains.
They ruined him in alien force and was made to be a joke in omniverse
Their was one vilgax joke in omniverse outside of that he was whooping bens ass. Uaf vilgax was just plain embarrassing.
Classic benten was scary
Like vilgax and ghostfreak scared me back then
Damn super Vilgax Glaze(I’m also a big fan of original series Ben 10 Vilgax)
Yep.
He was a much better villain back then.
Alien Force nerfed him and Omniverse ruined him
He was already ruined in AF. Go watch Primus and Secret of Chromastone. But UA and OV did bury him tho
@@matiasberto5684I know what you mean. I mean in Omniverse Vilgax leaves earth because he’s afraid of Ma Vreedle, who made him cry at one point
I was legit so scared for ben
In classic due to vilgax
They shoulda gave Vilgax more episodes in Classic Ben 10
The classic serious was just the best
He lacks a backstory and what motivated him into being what he is today. I'm not gonna compare him to Thanos who had a family, backstory and entire lore explained in comics for decades.
Plain and simple, this guy was an absolute terror whenever he showed up. Maybe they lightened up on his "aura" because of how scared kids were of him?
I can’t take Vilgax seriously when he doesn’t have his mask on
After classic Ben 10 was on a steady decline 🤷♂️