It’s not “Beatles and Stones” it’s “Beatles and then everyone else” the Stones May be near or at the top of everyone else. But it’s not like 1A and 1B by any means.
Vastly, vastly underappreciated band. They have so many great songs and are one of the few sixties bands who did have hit singles through the eighties. Love them.
Loved the Kinks from the first time I heard them. I was probably eight. They and The Who got my attention like no other bands at the time except perhaps The Animals. And I'm still listening decades later. Saw The Kinks once when I still lived in New Orleans. Have seen The Who 13 times over the years. Would still love to see Eric Burdon perform. Long Live Rock!
My favorite British Bands of the 60s, The Kinks and The Beatles. I used to listen to The Beatles as a kid and teenager, but in the last years I prefer to listen to The Kinks, especially the great albums they did between 1966-1971
If they weren't banned in the US they probably never had written songs like Waterloo Sunset, Autumn Almanac, Lola, Sunny Afternoon, and so on. All songs about England and the vibe over there at that moment. I didn't figured that out myself, someone opted that in a Kinks documentary.
I think they would have toured the USA in that era, but still called UK home. I dont think they would ever have been too 'americanized' for anyone's tastes.
That's a great point. You just can't imagine Village Green Preservation Society sounding the same. I can't imagine Muswell Hillbillies - their album about urban renewal of all subjects - would have existed either!
Lola was written and recorded long after they returned to touring the USA. I suspect that Ray’s output would’ve been very similar had they not been banned.
The kinks have long been in my top 3 favorite bands to listen to and study. Ray's such an incredible writer. Something Else, Village Green, Arthur, and Lola vs Powerman are all gold
I always loved face to face much more than Lola vs power man & moneygoround. In fact I like the albums after that one: muswell hillbillies & everybody’s in show business more. And the Kink Kontroversy. One thing that can’t be denied; Ray lost some of his edge after his first wife left him.
The Rolling Stones were pornographic, the Kinks were geographic. Seriously.... The Kinks were garage punk rock decades before the genre was invented! PS: Now, Sir Ray Davies!
I would never say their lyrics were raunchy. They were smart lyrics, commenting on English countryside, politics, society, materialism, celebrity, etc.
That's what I always think. Their management and label etc wanted them to be raunchy but Ray saw through that as pretension and wrote lyrics that were true to him.
All Day and All of the Night wasn’t raunchy per se, but it certainly crossed a line from the usual “I love you…” pap that was popular then. It was right on target!!
I met a woman a few years ago at my gig, and she said she was dating Ray and Dave's cousin at the time.. she was in England at Ray and Dave's mom's house with a few other people when she comes walking in saying loudly "Everybody come in and sit down the boys have made it, the boys have made it" and put their single 45 on the record player and played their song.. she couldn't say which song it was but I loved hearing her story and others.. I was late getting back to my gig..
When I was a teen, Come Dancing was a big hit. My brother was a big fan of the Kinks and it was so weird to me that Come Dancing and Lola were the same band. Lol.
I love their sheer diversity of subject matter: Cross-dressing, serial killers, drug addiction, masturbation, gas shortages, comic books, evolution, voodoo, Hollywood, even hairstyles. I know I'm missing some.
There goes that word again: underrated. If so, it means that the average listener doesn’t have the perspicacity to recognize truly exceptional music. That’s no reflection on the Kinks-rather, it speaks volumes on listening audiences who “don’t get it.” The Kinks, in being who they are, automatically separate the wheat from the chaff.
They were my favorite band, I liked them better than The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and whichever rock-band was popular in the sixties. From your story, I understand why their success was not bigger, compared to the other groups mentioned. I used to think it was due to Brian Epstein and George Martin that the Beatles became so good and hugely popular, but it was more. The Kinks still have the best repertoire, though, from this decade. They really got me.
I believe it was a hit single in it's time, tho. Robert Cristgau praised it, and it was even included in the soundtrack of a recent movie called "Love, Simon".
My favorite Kinks song is Lazy Old Sun. One of the best psychedelic tunes IMO which is funny because I've read that they were once quoted saying that they were proud not to have played any psychedelic music at the time when a lot of bands were getting into it.
My dad always liked the song Lola, because before he met my mom, my dad had a girlfriend named Lola. Every time the song Lola came on the radio, my dad would bring up his ex-girlfriend Lola and talk about how great looking Lola was, to make my mom jealous. When I was 8 or 9 years old, the song Lola came on our car radio, and as usual my dad brought up his ex-girlfriend Lola. I said to my dad "You know that song is about a transvestite, right?". My dad never again mentioned his ex-girlfriend Lola, when The Kinks song Lola was played. Lol. I love a lot of Kinks songs, but Waterloo Sunset is my favorite.
This is a very good video, I do have an idea on another band, try The Hollies, another British Invasion band, their evolution from the 60s to the 70s are quite interesting.
stargirlzx u said they were right up there with the Beatles stones who n Pink Floyd..lol..the kinks were never as good as anyone of these groups..maybe I'm just reading your post wrong..
It's a shame that they still don't get much play time in the USA. The show "Last Man on Earth" featured some Kinks songs in various episodes. "Arthur" is probably my favorite Kinks album right now.
They had the craziest "Brotherly" hate/love musician-relationship. I keep hoping someday there will be a movie about them. Tell why they got deported on their first American tour, and banned from the US? It would be EPIC! (BTW) First band I ever saw live, 1982. No other rock and roll story compares!
Here's a minor correction. While The Kinks were banned from live performance in the US they were not blocked from releasing records. They had multiple songs and albums on billboard chart between 65 and 68.
Sales of singles and albums were very correlated with touring back in the 1960s; touring was the best way to promote your band and get kids aware of you existing and being a hot commodity.
Wonderful band. Throughout their career. Always individualistic and forward looking. Always enormously talented. I was particularly excited by their early 80's output. Real energy and fantastic tunes that absorbed the New Wave that, paradoxically, they were pivotal in creating
The first time I heard the kinks,was hearing ,"Lola" in 69" when I 6yrs old my brother had the 45 single.everytime he was gone or away I would just play this song for the guitars an the way ray Davies sang,the kinks have so many gd songs over the years luv them to this day👍👍👍👍👍
Another interesting thing about The Kinks was that Ray Davies joined Metallica onstage during the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performances to play All Day and All of the Night
To me, that just showed that all most people knew about was The Kinks' early stuff and not the incredible Face to Face through Muswell Hillbillies 5/6 year period where most of their best stuff was written and performed. (1966 -- 1971)
Ya missed the BIGGEST rare Kinks story: It was originally ‘Liverpool SunSet’ thought up while waiting at Lime Street Station but was considered too Beatley BandWagony!
Despite the ban, there were quite a few Kinks songs that were hits to varying degrees in the States, but Waterloo Sunset was never really one of them, whereas in Britain it may be considered their signature hit. Just throwing that out as a possible reason there was no mention of the song in this American-made video.
I think Ray just made that story up for a scouse journalist about 10-15 years ago. Ray was always a bit of a bullshitter who liked to spin a yarn to please others.
It’s quite unfortunate the Kinks were banned for such a seemingly trivial altercation. Certainly one of the finest groups of the Sixties. Nice lads. They surpass The Rolling Stones by far.
Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Bo Diddley, Bill Haley, Elvis, Gene Vincent, etc, Buddy Holly were the pioneers of Rock & Roll! The Kinks were great & talented (dedicated) followers.
If learning had been this entertaining in school I probably would've ended up designing rocets. Thank you for your research and wonderful presentation.
Kinks or kinky meant something complete different to what it means now in the 60s UK it meant cool a la mode fashionable, as in Kinky boots .... as in Carnaby Steet
The Kinks' stories is almost like something written in Alternate History land, though I think you should've mentioned the Kink's massive influence on Britpop and popular music centered around English life and society through their songs such as "Waterloo Sunset" and albums such as "The Kink's Green Village Preservation Society"
& all OF THE night. At 1:50, what is that song on the sheet music? I think Robert Wace(2:18) is the guy who danced with a woman who turned out to be a guy and inspired Ray to write LOLA.
@@johnnyoranges the main flaw for me in the stones isn’t the song structures or the instrumental aspect, it’s the complete lack of harmonies and I just feel they weren’t the most original. I still think they are a decent band though. It’s just when people make ridiculous claims like they are anywhere near the Beatles...it’s like bro in what universe.
@@sampsonsimpson1040 I agree. In the 60s, for every record the Stones sold, the Beatles sold 20. They were in different classes, and it was the Stones great fortune that the Fabs split up.
The US ban has always bothered me. But I wonder, if it had been lifted sooner, would that have affected the Kinks' sound? Would they have ever put out gems like Face To Face, Something Else, or VGPS? Or would they have continued in the vein of the style they were playing in in 1964 to 1965? Also, if the brawl between Dave and that union worker had happened today, I guarantee the union worker would be the one disciplined harshly instead of the Kinks. What a time to be alive!
I think the main issue with a reunion would be getting Dave Davies aboard. That would be the stumbling block, just like Robert Plant put the kibosh on Zeppelin going on a reunion tour after that one-off live show they did in recent years.
They made up for that money they didn’t make in the late 60s during the 1970s. The US tour for the low budget album in 1979 especially made a lot of money. I don’t think a tour of the USA today would make much money (if any at all). Not many people born after 1985 have heard much about them. And Dave is sadly slowly dying and doesn’t want to be around Ray too much.
I have to go with bill Wyman on saying the kinks drummer performed at the stones first show. He( Wyman) documented everything with film and audio. He has a warehouse filled home movies from the start of the rolling stones. In the documentary about the film's he made he seems to have a great memory of these things. All from cataloging this vast collection.
Sorry back in 1971 the Kinks refused to play at Mesa Jr College in Grand Junction, Colorado. We went to their hotel room with a 6’6” Cowboy started beating on their door demanding they play. They obliged.
For me, this band are way better than The Beatles. Live vocals by Ray are pitch perfect too, whereas Paul McCartney can't hit notes in the upper register at all. I'm not gonna be popular for saying that, but it's undeniably true.
It's not exactly true that the Kinks were never commercially successful. True, they never became crazy rich like the Stones or the Who but Ray has more millions than you can count on 2 hands and Dave could be rich but he has said that he lived like a rock star while Ray took notes (and watched his money). I suspect that he's comfortable enough. Mick Avery has long lived in a big house in a posh neighborhood. None of them ever had to get jobs lol.
They actually went on a disastrous tour of the USA in 1965, not 1964. So the ban was from mid 1965 onwards. And the ban lasted until the fall of 1969, when they returned to North America play, including their first Canadian appearance in Toronto.
how about a video about the Pretty Things,they might not have had a massive chjarts carrer,but they were among people who love good music a legendary band/
They were banned 1965 to 1969, not 1964 to 1968.. Their records were still sold in the US, and Sunny Afternoon charted at #14 in1966 in the US. Their last name is pronounced like Davis, not Davies like it is spelled.
Back in the 1960s; sales of singles and records were more correlated with touring. Doing tours was the best way for a band to advertise and promote itself. Local stations would play the songs, sown television stations would allow per foot one broadcast, and it was the best way a lot of bands could make teenagers and adolescents aware of them and their music even existing and being current. So being banned from touring the USA did make a big dent in the sales of Kinks records in the states. And it also affected their profile back in the USA. Failure to tour the USA was also what cursed the pretty things.
My kids and I do 'unconventional' covers of offbeat songs, and Sunny Afternoon is one of our spontaneous-faves that just happens to come up a lot. The Kinks have so many treasures (Alcohol, Well-Respected Man, Dead End Street, and Strangers especially) and if you enjoy the kitschy-pop-culture aspect of their story, the stage musical "Sunny Afternoon" was cheerful, heavy, heartwarming, breezy, and brawly, kinda like "That Thing You Do!" but with 15% more alcoholic rage and apathy... but like, in the good way, obviously. :)
Sunny Afternoon, an English music hall style song ( and a fabulous one ), beat McCartney's When I'm 64 to public attention by a full year. And it's better than When I'm 64 and McCartney's two other ventures into that style, Your Mother Should Know and Honey Pie. I think Lennon's Sexy Sadie music is very much in that style, too, but I'm going only by my ear. Sexy Sadie doesn't bear any relationship to Mad About the Boy, except neither is at all jaunty, but if Mad About the Boy is English music hall, than Sexy Sadie - ignoring the weird, hallucinatory lyrics - is as well, I think.
Long ago (in the early '70s) it was said the Kinks were banned from the US concert & shows system because one brother punched out a Memphis mafia guy who said he needed $10,000 cash, then sign papers, so they could play at US concerts.
I love the kinks, might be the most underrated band of all time
Underrated by whom?
They should be mentioned more frequently in the same breath as the Beatles and the Stones instead of the Who whom are very over rated
It’s not “Beatles and Stones” it’s “Beatles and then everyone else” the Stones May be near or at the top of everyone else. But it’s not like 1A and 1B by any means.
It is not might. They are the most under-rated band of all time!
@@AnyangU Haven't heard of the Ramones, eh?
Out of all the 60s british bands, the kinks definitely had the cleverest lyrics and a great sense of humor.
And the Beatles didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vastly, vastly underappreciated band. They have so many great songs and are one of the few sixties bands who did have hit singles through the eighties. Love them.
true!!
Loved the Kinks from the first time I heard them. I was probably eight. They and The Who got my attention like no other bands at the time except perhaps The Animals. And I'm still listening decades later. Saw The Kinks once when I still lived in New Orleans. Have seen The Who 13 times over the years. Would still love to see Eric Burdon perform. Long Live Rock!
My favorite British Bands of the 60s, The Kinks and The Beatles. I used to listen to The Beatles as a kid and teenager, but in the last years I prefer to listen to The Kinks, especially the great albums they did between 1966-1971
The story of the kinks would make a brilliant film.
If they weren't banned in the US they probably never had written songs like Waterloo Sunset, Autumn Almanac, Lola, Sunny Afternoon, and so on. All songs about England and the vibe over there at that moment. I didn't figured that out myself, someone opted that in a Kinks documentary.
It's very true.
I think they would have toured the USA in that era, but still called UK home. I dont think they would ever have been too 'americanized' for anyone's tastes.
That's a great point. You just can't imagine Village Green Preservation Society sounding the same. I can't imagine Muswell Hillbillies - their album about urban renewal of all subjects - would have existed either!
Lola was written and recorded long after they returned to touring the USA.
I suspect that Ray’s output would’ve been very similar had they not been banned.
The kinks have long been in my top 3 favorite bands to listen to and study. Ray's such an incredible writer. Something Else, Village Green, Arthur, and Lola vs Powerman are all gold
Muswell Hillbillies really spoke to me.
I always loved face to face much more than Lola vs power man & moneygoround. In fact I like the albums after that one: muswell hillbillies & everybody’s in show business more. And the Kink Kontroversy.
One thing that can’t be denied; Ray lost some of his edge after his first wife left him.
You named the best of a long list of great albums. Saw them first in ‘68, then about 5 times more in the 70s- my fav British band
The Rolling Stones were pornographic, the Kinks were geographic.
Seriously.... The Kinks were garage punk rock decades before the genre was invented!
PS: Now, Sir Ray Davies!
They were a garage band even before garages were invented!
@@excellinkus LOVE it! 🤣😂😅
I would never say their lyrics were raunchy. They were smart lyrics, commenting on English countryside, politics, society, materialism, celebrity, etc.
right.
That's what I always think. Their management and label etc wanted them to be raunchy but Ray saw through that as pretension and wrote lyrics that were true to him.
All Day and All of the Night wasn’t raunchy per se, but it certainly crossed a line from the usual “I love you…” pap that was popular then. It was right on target!!
Speaking as a Beatles fan above all things The Kinks are my second favorite British rock band and somewhere in the top 5 all time rock bands.
Agreed
I agree. I put them ahead of The Who for sure.
I met a woman a few years ago at my gig, and she said she was dating Ray and Dave's cousin at the time.. she was in England at Ray and Dave's mom's house with a few other people when she comes walking in saying loudly "Everybody come in and sit down the boys have made it, the boys have made it" and put their single 45 on the record player and played their song.. she couldn't say which song it was but I loved hearing her story and others.. I was late getting back to my gig..
When I was a teen, Come Dancing was a big hit. My brother was a big fan of the Kinks and it was so weird to me that Come Dancing and Lola were the same band. Lol.
I love their sheer diversity of subject matter: Cross-dressing, serial killers, drug addiction, masturbation, gas shortages, comic books, evolution, voodoo, Hollywood, even hairstyles. I know I'm missing some.
Local dance halls, gardening magazines, society and culture in general, local landmarks.....
@@poolypiraterecords5740 Nice, good ones. Queen Victoria, paranoid personality disorder, spousal abuse.
Food
"I can't ball, with ducks on the wall"..
@@jacknewman9256 ha can't believe no1 has mentioned random dudes like "David Watt" 😃
I will always applaud any public figure throwing more attention at The Kinks. Truly underrated.
There goes that word again: underrated. If so, it means that the average listener doesn’t have the perspicacity to recognize truly exceptional music. That’s no reflection on the Kinks-rather, it speaks volumes on listening audiences who “don’t get it.”
The Kinks, in being who they are, automatically separate the wheat from the chaff.
One of my favorite bands ever... imagine how much bigger they could have been if not for the US ban
They were my favorite band, I liked them better than The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and whichever rock-band was popular in the sixties. From your story, I understand why their success was not bigger, compared to the other groups mentioned. I used to think it was due to Brian Epstein and George Martin that the Beatles became so good and hugely popular, but it was more. The Kinks still have the best repertoire, though, from this decade. They really got me.
“You really shot me”! Shouldn’t have but had to laugh! Another great vid yes they were on a parr with the Beatles for songwriting
Lola is literally my favorite song of all time.
Great, The Kinks are my second favorite band of all time! Glad you made a video, thank you!
Waterloo sunset has got to be one of the most underrated songs of all time
I believe it was a hit single in it's time, tho. Robert Cristgau praised it, and it was even included in the soundtrack of a recent movie called "Love, Simon".
Waterloo Sunset is rated #13 on Rolling Stone's greatest 500 songs- look it up.
As a matter of fact, Dave Davies and Pete Quaife started the group. Ray 'wormed his way in (his words)' when he returned from art school.
One of my absolute favorite bands! Never missed a show in Detroit!
my favorite 60’s band
My favorite Kinks song is Lazy Old Sun. One of the best psychedelic tunes IMO which is funny because I've read that they were once quoted saying that they were proud not to have played any psychedelic music at the time when a lot of bands were getting into it.
I'd say See my Friend had a very psychedelic sound even if the subject matter wasn't.
@@merciansupremacy5113 agreed
Lazy Old Sun lyrics are awesome- in my top 5.👌
My dad always liked the song Lola, because before he met my mom, my dad had a girlfriend named Lola. Every time the song Lola came on the radio, my dad would bring up his ex-girlfriend Lola and talk about how great looking Lola was, to make my mom jealous. When I was 8 or 9 years old, the song Lola came on our car radio, and as usual my dad brought up his ex-girlfriend Lola. I said to my dad "You know that song is about a transvestite, right?". My dad never again mentioned his ex-girlfriend Lola, when The Kinks song Lola was played. Lol. I love a lot of Kinks songs, but Waterloo Sunset is my favorite.
Is it about a transvestite??
@@mcmacshalfilya Yes. Haven't you listened to the lyrics?
@@lisaheisey6168 Not in great detail, no. But now I'm going to have to in light of the information I received from you.
@@lisaheisey6168 Lisa, li li li li LISA ! 😁 (Ha! I'm just playing with you)
She walks like a woman and talks like a man... LOL-a
Beatles, Stones, Who, Kinks. The Mount Rushmore of British Rock.
You got that right!! Even Peter Townshend said so!
"The Big Four" - who created the template for modern rock and roll that everyone else has been using, ever since.
And the movie "Mount Rushmore" has a Kinks song on the soundtrack to prove it!
The best band ever.
Led Zeppelin?
Love the Kinks. They were the base line influence of the early 60's that few, very few, recognize.
Another great video. Thank you. I always think of Terence Stamp and Julie Christie when I hear Waterloo Sunset.
..I just bought a couple of guitars from Terry last week............
It's not about them though. Honestly, that's just an "urban myth". Who says so? Ray Davies.
This is a very good video, I do have an idea on another band, try The Hollies, another British Invasion band, their evolution from the 60s to the 70s are quite interesting.
YES!!!!
One of the true originals. Right up there with the Beatles, stones, the who and pink floyd
They were good but don't compare to the greats u mention..cmon man..lmfao
@@homebest1777 I'm talking about the state of the art in those early days of the british invasion BEFORE the likes of zeppelin and such
stargirlzx u said they were right up there with the Beatles stones who n Pink Floyd..lol..the kinks were never as good as anyone of these groups..maybe I'm just reading your post wrong..
@@homebest1777 Bullshit. Maybe No.2 to the Beatles, but way ahead of the others in originality, influence, longevity and songwriting.
@@homebest1777 You clearly don't know their material, or perhaps you just have bad taste.
That shot of the boys together with the beer is so beautiful.
Thank you for this video!
Definitely one of my faves of all time!
Re. the ban, the story I heard(in some documentary) is that one of the Davies punched a teamster & the union got them banned.
It's a shame that they still don't get much play time in the USA. The show "Last Man on Earth" featured some Kinks songs in various episodes. "Arthur" is probably my favorite Kinks album right now.
classic rock stations play them. When I was in school, their music was hardly obscure among my peers.
They had the craziest "Brotherly" hate/love musician-relationship. I keep hoping someday there will be a movie about them. Tell why they got deported on their first American tour, and banned from the US? It would be EPIC! (BTW) First band I ever saw live, 1982. No other rock and roll story compares!
The Kinks are truly underrated when it comes to the lore of the 60's
Here's a minor correction. While The Kinks were banned from live performance in the US they were not blocked from releasing records. They had multiple songs and albums on billboard chart between 65 and 68.
I bought all they released in US
Sales of singles and albums were very correlated with touring back in the 1960s; touring was the best way to promote your band and get kids aware of you existing and being a hot commodity.
One of the greatest British pioneer, invasion bands of all!
Love ‘em and Ray’s beautiful Smile💋
Great band ❤️
I just finished an hour car ride playing LOLA over and over. My favorite Kinks song 😊
Wonderful band. Throughout their career. Always individualistic and forward looking. Always enormously talented. I was particularly excited by their early 80's output. Real energy and fantastic tunes that absorbed the New Wave that, paradoxically, they were pivotal in creating
The first time I heard the kinks,was hearing ,"Lola" in 69" when I 6yrs old my brother had the 45 single.everytime he was gone or away I would just play this song for the guitars an the way ray Davies sang,the kinks have so many gd songs over the years luv them to this day👍👍👍👍👍
Another interesting thing about The Kinks was that Ray Davies joined Metallica onstage during the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performances to play All Day and All of the Night
To me, that just showed that all most people knew about was The Kinks' early stuff and not the incredible Face to Face through Muswell Hillbillies 5/6 year period where most of their best stuff was written and performed. (1966 -- 1971)
@@jonathanreich6360 Yeah, Sunny Afternoon, Picture Book and Lola are all great songs from that era
I’ve met Larry page a few times. He lives in Australia now and is a knowledgeable man
I think both Ray and Dave have cursed his name and how he ripped them off and generally mismanaged them.
Something Else and Face to Face are both loaded with great songs...
They are simply Fantastic!!!
I saw the Kinks at Winterland in San Francisco Saturday, April 14, 1973.
...I'm sure Ray being bi-polar had something to do with all of the fighting between the members........
And him being a bit of a bastard…
Ya missed the BIGGEST rare Kinks story:
It was originally ‘Liverpool SunSet’ thought up while waiting at Lime Street Station but was considered too Beatley BandWagony!
Despite the ban, there were quite a few Kinks songs that were hits to varying degrees in the States, but Waterloo Sunset was never really one of them, whereas in Britain it may be considered their signature hit. Just throwing that out as a possible reason there was no mention of the song in this American-made video.
@@StamfordBridge
Ah -good point 👍
I think Ray just made that story up for a scouse journalist about 10-15 years ago. Ray was always a bit of a bullshitter who liked to spin a yarn to please others.
Holy crap, you got a recent photo of the brothers walking down the street drinking together
It’s quite unfortunate the Kinks were banned for such a seemingly trivial altercation. Certainly one of the finest groups of the Sixties. Nice lads. They surpass The Rolling Stones by far.
Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Bo Diddley, Bill Haley, Elvis, Gene Vincent, etc, Buddy Holly were the pioneers of Rock & Roll! The Kinks were great & talented (dedicated) followers.
fuck yeah been waiting for this one for a while
If learning had been this entertaining in school I probably would've ended up designing rocets. Thank you for your research and wonderful presentation.
Kinks or kinky meant something complete different to what it means now in the 60s UK it meant cool a la mode fashionable, as in Kinky boots .... as in Carnaby Steet
The Kinks' stories is almost like something written in Alternate History land, though I think you should've mentioned the Kink's massive influence on Britpop and popular music centered around English life and society through their songs such as "Waterloo Sunset" and albums such as "The Kink's Green Village Preservation Society"
"Waterloo Sunset" is a masterpiece. Stellar! Def Leppard did an amazing cover of it years ago.
It was actually a hi-hat stand that Mick was said to have thrown.
& all OF THE night. At 1:50, what is that song on the sheet music? I think Robert Wace(2:18) is the guy who danced with a woman who turned out to be a guy and inspired Ray to write LOLA.
Kinks are a more influential band than The Rolling Stones, change my mind.
Sampson, I totally agree. The Kinks were highly original, the Stones were copyists.
Beggars/Let it Bleed/Sticky Fingers/EXILE! ......are you Crowder?
@@lamper2 Old blues riffs, mindless jams and wanky, meaningless lyrics = Stones.
@@johnnyoranges the main flaw for me in the stones isn’t the song structures or the instrumental aspect, it’s the complete lack of harmonies and I just feel they weren’t the most original. I still think they are a decent band though. It’s just when people make ridiculous claims like they are anywhere near the Beatles...it’s like bro in what universe.
@@sampsonsimpson1040 I agree. In the 60s, for every record the Stones sold, the Beatles sold 20. They were in different classes, and it was the Stones great fortune that the Fabs split up.
Village Green Preservation Society was one of the greatest albums ever made. I even prefer it over Sgt. Pepper.
The US ban has always bothered me. But I wonder, if it had been lifted sooner, would that have affected the Kinks' sound? Would they have ever put out gems like Face To Face, Something Else, or VGPS? Or would they have continued in the vein of the style they were playing in in 1964 to 1965? Also, if the brawl between Dave and that union worker had happened today, I guarantee the union worker would be the one disciplined harshly instead of the Kinks. What a time to be alive!
I read that Ray thinks that they would have become a heavy metal band if they didn't get banned.
@@rnkcolts11 whoa! That would never do for them!
I heard that they punched the guy who said that which is deserved
I still love that Kinks dirty sound.
One could argue that it was the birth of the Punk sound
Their more raw-sounding tunes were certainly influences on the punk, but the ramones are generally considered the first punk band.
If the Kinks hadn't been blacklisted in the US, they would have been THE British Invasion band and people would be saying "Who are the Beatles?"
Excellent summary. Thank you very much.
I hope they are still healthy and together. Would love to hear something from them. But I still listen to them all the time.
My idea and I used 'Strangers' for our first dance.... it fits surprisingly well.
Ray and Davies are the godfathers of Heavy Metal!!
Ohhhh loved them!!! :) from here in New Zealand
I wish they would do a North American tour when the pandemic is over and capture some of that money that was stolen for the 4 year ban
I think the main issue with a reunion would be getting Dave Davies aboard. That would be the stumbling block, just like Robert Plant put the kibosh on Zeppelin going on a reunion tour after that one-off live show they did in recent years.
They made up for that money they didn’t make in the late 60s during the 1970s. The US tour for the low budget album in 1979 especially made a lot of money.
I don’t think a tour of the USA today would make much money (if any at all). Not many people born after 1985 have heard much about them.
And Dave is sadly slowly dying and doesn’t want to be around Ray too much.
I have to go with bill Wyman on saying the kinks drummer performed at the stones first show. He( Wyman) documented everything with film and audio. He has a warehouse filled home movies from the start of the rolling stones. In the documentary about the film's he made he seems to have a great memory of these things. All from cataloging this vast collection.
the clip at 1:20 shows Pete Townsend and Keith Moon of The Who, not Ray and Dave Davies
He is talking about the guy in the middle though
@@Thugin115 ah right, thanks for pointing that out 👍
The song is called 'All Day and All of the Night'.
Exactly - *not* All Day And All Night
my favourite band!
I have been waiting for this video
I'm so Tired of Waiting for Kinks videos.
Sorry back in 1971 the Kinks refused to play at Mesa Jr College in Grand Junction, Colorado. We went to their hotel room with a 6’6” Cowboy started beating on their door demanding they play. They obliged.
For me, this band are way better than The Beatles. Live vocals by Ray are pitch perfect too, whereas Paul McCartney can't hit notes in the upper register at all. I'm not gonna be popular for saying that, but it's undeniably true.
They were revolutionaries of sorts 🎸🎶
"And that meant cutting my brothers head off". The way you said that killed me.
Ray Davies is a genius!....and David is not too shabby as well!!! Links are awesome!
Meant to say "Kinks" ,not "Links"!!!Leave this bloody predictive texts out of it.That is only for the illiterate or moronic!😮
Best band ever!
Le style et le son KINKS
Very funny that you have early pictures of Keith moon and Pete Townsend when talking about ray and Dave. Yes same era but different band.
tthose pics w' pete & keith were of shel talmy who produced the who, the kinks & others in the early 60's.
It's not exactly true that the Kinks were never commercially successful. True, they never became crazy rich like the Stones or the Who but Ray has more millions than you can count on 2 hands and Dave could be rich but he has said that he lived like a rock star while Ray took notes (and watched his money). I suspect that he's comfortable enough. Mick Avery has long lived in a big house in a posh neighborhood. None of them ever had to get jobs lol.
1:17 is Townsend and Moon, half of The Who!
@justdiane5 They had the same manager whom they're pictured with.
Listening to their music.... you would never think they were violent.
They actually went on a disastrous tour of the USA in 1965, not 1964. So the ban was from mid 1965 onwards. And the ban lasted until the fall of 1969, when they returned to North America play, including their first Canadian appearance in Toronto.
how about a video about the Pretty Things,they might not have had a massive chjarts carrer,but they were among people who love good music a legendary band/
yes! more kinks content please!!
I googled that, but I got something quite unexpected in the search engine results. :-P
They were banned 1965 to 1969, not 1964 to 1968.. Their records were still sold in the US, and Sunny Afternoon charted at #14 in1966 in the US. Their last name is pronounced like Davis, not Davies like it is spelled.
The way Ray says it rhymes with "Mavis"; Dave pronounces it to rhyme with "navies".
Back in the 1960s; sales of singles and records were more correlated with touring. Doing tours was the best way for a band to advertise and promote itself. Local stations would play the songs, sown television stations would allow per foot one broadcast, and it was the best way a lot of bands could make teenagers and adolescents aware of them and their music even existing and being current.
So being banned from touring the USA did make a big dent in the sales of Kinks records in the states. And it also affected their profile back in the USA.
Failure to tour the USA was also what cursed the pretty things.
Better than the Beatles
Would have enjoyed it (much) more, had you focused on their other great songs, like Lola, Apeman, Come Dancing
My kids and I do 'unconventional' covers of offbeat songs, and Sunny Afternoon is one of our spontaneous-faves that just happens to come up a lot. The Kinks have so many treasures (Alcohol, Well-Respected Man, Dead End Street, and Strangers especially) and if you enjoy the kitschy-pop-culture aspect of their story, the stage musical "Sunny Afternoon" was cheerful, heavy, heartwarming, breezy, and brawly, kinda like "That Thing You Do!" but with 15% more alcoholic rage and apathy... but like, in the good way, obviously. :)
Sunny Afternoon, an English music hall style song ( and a fabulous one ), beat McCartney's When I'm 64 to public attention by a full year. And it's better than When I'm 64 and McCartney's two other ventures into that style, Your Mother Should Know and Honey Pie. I think Lennon's Sexy Sadie music is very much in that style, too, but I'm going only by my ear. Sexy Sadie doesn't bear any relationship to Mad About the Boy, except neither is at all jaunty, but if Mad About the Boy is English music hall, than Sexy Sadie - ignoring the weird, hallucinatory lyrics - is as well, I think.
You're my favorite music TH-camr man
bro the kinks are so based I swear
VERY COOL 😎 Well done!!
Yada,yada,yada. 🤗. George🍔 Costanza
Long ago (in the early '70s) it was said the Kinks were banned from the US concert & shows system because one brother
punched out a Memphis mafia guy who said he needed $10,000 cash, then sign papers, so they could play at US concerts.