They are built a lot better than they used to be. But they also are built with a lot more plastic parts where there shouldn’t be that used to be metal. They also using cheaper Chinese parts. I know I’m on my 4th one since 2011.
It's surprising for sure. There are a lot of people that prefer chrome on that bike. If I had to choose one it would be the black though. We just sell more of them
I’ve owned 9 Harleys over the past 17 years, usually one at a time, but 2 at a time for awhile. I ride an average of 30k miles per year approximately. I only experienced one minor problem with any of those bikes and that one problem was fixed for free under warrantee. The people who claim they are not reliable don’t know what they’re talking about.
In a world of online complaints it's good to see good comments now and then. Thanks for leaving this. No vehicle manufacturer is perfect but H-D's are easily some of the most reliable bikes out there. I'm in the same boat as you. I have had maybe 2 instances where I had an issue that needed to be resolved one was a dead battery. The other was a damaged oil cooler.
@@curtisgalper1215 That's not fair to claim that either. Not most, but ALL dealers I've been served by - they were great and demonstrated an absolute professionalism. So no need to absolute it. The more you do, the more mistakes you make - so mistakes can happen at any level, manufacturing (vendor), sales (dealer), purchase (customer). And that's something I personally can quite safely claim.
@@curtisgalper1215 I have a local dealer who is currently doing a GREAT job. Then, the next closest dealer also does a great job. That dealer is owned by a guy who owns 3 in my state. I’ve had a great experience at 2 of those dealerships. He even made sure I could get my bike in at the last minute before a big ride I was going on. They’ve really gone out of their way to make sure I was taken care of. I can’t say anything about his 3rd dealership because I’ve only bought a t-shirt and a cup holder there, but they were as good as they could have been on those items. I did have one bad experience a few years ago. 1 bad experience goes a long ways to giving a person a bad taste.
@@MattLaidlaw I had a small oil leak on a 2017 Road King with the 107. If I remember right, it had something to do with a faulty gasket or something. Anyway, it was very small and was fixed within a few hours and I never had any problems again.
Awesome Matt, really excited about the new line up. This is the year my wife and I will be purchasing Harley’s. my pick is a Sharkskin Blue Lowrider and my wife will be getting the Nightster Special in grey! Your vids are some of the best on TH-cam Matt, thank you for the time you take getting this to us!
Totally agree man, I was SO ready to see a new street bob tank design. I was also confused that they just brought back the baja orange from a few years ago.
Another great video, thanks. Please make your Laidlaw HD dealership t shirts available for world wide shipping. I'd love to buy some but don't see them on your website.
Hi Matt, thanks for taking the time to show me some bikes today. After test riding the SG my mind is made up. Hope to come by soon for my new or used Street Glide
Cool review. So looks like we inherited that surcharge , I’m so shocked. One thing ya didn’t mention was the upside forks. Low riders got em’. And I’ve seen the road glide specials and street glide specials and they too have upside down forks and look amazing. I’ve been waiting for Harley to transition into inverted forks. Probably going to be part of the reveal January 24th. Which by the way is my birthday , lol. Gonna make it to L.A. someday and stop by the shop to meet you guys. Thanks Matt.
Come say hi! Yes, the Low Rider S (ST) have the inverted forks. I left out a lot of the details on the bikes on this video just because it was out of the scope of the subject matter. The Street Glide Special and Road Glide Specials, however, do NOT have upside down forks. The New 2023 CVOs are the only Touring chassis bikes that have the inverted forks at the time of me writing this comment.
Love the blue on the FXBBS, and got rid of the orange. I thought they would go back to the metal badging like 2019/2020. Would love to see the green on the FXLRST and the Heritage blacked out option. Only available in the chrome.
This might sound negative, but it is actually positive; my 2009 Road King will be with me for as long as I live. Has everything that I need and can be rebuilt as many times as needed. I don't know many people these days with enough money and positive future outlook to buy a new bike right now. In fact, I don't know any. The one bike I would consider as a replacement is the Pan America. That is a very useful bike indeed. Great video as always Matt.
i wanna to get the road king special but wanna the chrome look ..too bad that i cant have it new ...do the chrome accessories from past models can be fitted to to the special ?
Dear Matt, seriously, the Softail Standard is THE best looking Harley of all! It even looks great in the new base colour, almost better than in vivid black. It is clean, minimalistic, and handles really great! Love it! 😁👍
Hey Matt, nice rundown of the limited release. I was a bit surprised that the chrome option disappeared on the RG and Ultra, seems like a way to force that black upcharge? IDK. Perhaps the moco saw that dropping the Road King chrome didn't affect sales and decided to follow suit with the glides? Do you think that option will return on the 24th full release? Also, any thoughts on the new '23 CVO fairings possibly showing up on the Specials or ST's to help differentiate them a bit more since the standards are blacked out now? Oh, and I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the '23 CVO Streetglide recall for the high speed instabilities.
I have a 2022 PAS. Have had many traditional HDs since 1987. In my humble opinion after riding my PA for 22,000 miles since new the 1250 Rev Max engine is the best engine HD has ever built. Other than the Bosch fuel pump getting noisy at 21,000 miles and replaced under warranty the bike has been trouble free. I love it and hope its here to stay.
@MattLaidlaw Absolutely. Harley must do like BMW and continue to produce the venerable and iconic pushrod V Twin. The Rev Max powered machines as a seperate line. That said I think it was a tremendous blunder to discontinue the pushrod Sportster. The excuse that was given by the MOCO was it couldnt be made to meet current emission standards without reengineering it. Kawasaki did it with the KLR 650 single which had been around since the mid 80s. I call BS on that because the Chinese/ Italian clone is already a reality. Huge mistake. The Rev Max line of "sportsters" could been called by a different nomenclature as was the V Rod. There is an 07 1200 in my stable now and there will be some more in the future. That being said the Pan America is one helluva machine. Three in one actually. Just hope more dealers get on board and all the early bugs are now a memory. 2024 is its 4th production year. Should be no more "teething issues". Hope to see some more broadcasts of your Pan Am experiences. Thank you
I bought a new Dodge Ram SS/T in 1998. About the same time, my cousin's now ex-husband bought a Heritage Softail Classic. The two vehicles were within $2500 of each other according to my recollection. The Heritage Classic is around the same price on the H-D website...26 years later. So, maybe H-D prices don't keep going up and up.
🛑🛑 SUPER Review Matt!! 👍 I enjoy your attention to detail, explaining each model year. I’ll be interested to see the 2024 Roll Out. Something tells me, is the Touring Line will be seeing the upgrades filtering down from the CVO’s from 2023. 💯👍
I like the breakout bike and introducing new colours are pretty cool. You did really great job explaining about all the bikes. Keep up the good work.stay blessed and stay safe on the road😀😀
If you’ve been looking at the website over the last month or so, you’d notice the dramatically smaller lineup two weeks ago. New colors and a new headlight. Probably a couple inches bigger and the same old stuff. That’s for the new ones. Not talking about the ones that truly just got a new color. The huge updates are definitely not huge updates.
Great review Matt! I hope you're correct when you say that Harley is all in on the adventure bike, i'm very interested in what they come out with the upgraded electronics for it....
I can’t wait, the new colors are awesome. Oh boy new colors, yippee some new paints! H.D. Is the best. New colors. Did they tell you about the new colors this year.
Matt I looked into ordering a Road King standard last year. My dealer was told that last year was the last year was the last year you could order the standard. I wanted a white Road King so I held off to see what was offered this year in the special. The police version of course is still available. I am glad I waited for this white. As to the Pan America, I wonder if the new standard will be the 975 version that has been talked about? Thanks for another great vlog. Happy new years to the Laidlaw crew!
I’m super disappointed, I was just about I buy a soft tail standard and was excited to see the new grey colour but unfortunately from what I can tell it won’t be coming to Australia 🇦🇺.
I’m not sure the Fat Boy sells that great anymore either but they’ll keep it around because of it’s legacy! As soon as the sales numbers drop the company drops the bike anymore! I have a 2019 Fat Bob in Scorched Orange and Matt Black so I hate to see it go!
Since the Low Rider S was intro'ed on the softail frame in 2020 the Fat Bob sales have gone down. It did better when it was the stand-out performance option in the family
Im a huge fan of two tone paint jobs and that green and black on the Freewheeler and Ultra is amazing! The trikes should all come in two tone when you've got that much real estate to cover one color just doesn't get it done IMO.
$1000 surcharge was never included in the price of the bike. It was compensation for increased expenses for getting parts during the pandemic. Now that parts are more available Harley just sucked it up in a price increase. To say the prices haven’t increased other than the Nightsters which were hard to move is untrue.
Any insight on the Motor Company’s reasoning with the grey paint thing would be interesting. I actually like the Nightser bikes except I’m 6’1” and it is a bit small. I’d use it for commuting and local get around. I stopped by your dealer last week..closed till the 2nd but dang I thought maybe the business was shut down for a second but saw it was a remodel....really tearing into that building!
I was hoping they made some modifications to the PanAm. Maybe another model with a larger fuel tank to compete with the tiger explorer or bmw gsa. But I hope they have figured out the ongoing issues with the 21 /22 models.
Bit curious about the colours of the Road King Special. One of the most popular colours is "Vivid Black". Now it's a premium colour, what's that all about? Now it's going to cost you premium for a basic colour.
I don mind the billiard grey with black trim, not crazy about chrome. The sharkskin blue is kind of cool wanna see it in person. Onyx white is amazing, blue burst is fine, red rock and alpine green were a miss for me, but don't mind the red rock/black 2 tone
Great review of the 24 carry over models , really like the new Alpine Green on the Breakout, looks awesome, interesting to see the difference in which models are available in the USA against those in Europe, it's probably down to the popularity of specific models , in Europe we see a lot of Sport Glides and Fat Bob's but not many trikes which is probably why we don't get the Road Glide 3 in Europe.
Great video Matt. I am glad to see that the Nightster has a new lower price. I owned the 2022 model year and after many problems (no start issues, defective handlebar issues, defective front ABS brakes and a defective fuel pump). Harley Davidson and my Dealership agreed to buy it back (LEMON LAW), payoff my loan and sell me a new bike of my choice (2023 Street Bob) at a reduced price. I did like the Nightster but it was extremely unreliable. I would have like to see ABS brakes standard on the 2024 Street Bob.
Dang, that sucks you had issues with your Nightster. Yes, it's good that H-D has a bike as affordable as the Nightster and they made it even more obtainable. Hopefully you have better luck with the Street Bob. Thanks for the comment man
Hello Matt, thanks for the video. In Belgium / Europe where I live, I was looking this morning the price of the entry level bike, the Nightster with a price tag of 15500€ which is almost $17,000 with today's current exchange. In your video and in the US, this price point is $12,000... Converted to Euro currency it's less than 11000€, so we pay half the price of the bike for taxes and transportation. Very sad. Happy new 2024 year, ride safe ;-)
When I hear about prices are down on some Harley models what immediately comes to mind is where did Harley Davidson take shortcuts in order to bring down the price...
Matt, for 2024 Harley should come out with new Street Glide/Road Glide ST's AND Road Glide/Ultra Limited ST's with the new fairings/infotainment and 117 VVT's. What do you think?
Let's just call it what it is. It is Primer with a clear coat over it, leave it to Harley to make someone pay extra for black paint which is the cheapest and easiest paint to obtain. Harley claims they are a premium brand and demand premium price yet not every bike comes with cruise control, still releasing bikes with single disc front brakes, Their touring bikes still use halogen turn signals etc.. Seeing how they don't have all of their touring bikes on their website tells me that they are fixing to do some much needed changes to them. I'm excited to see what they are going to do with those on Jan 24th. Also why didn't Harley just put a factory 2n1 exhaust on the ST so that the bags are the same size? That is something that just doesn't make any sense to me.
Yea that orange on the Street Bob on vivid black is what through me off. Look like a pumpkin. The new Vivid Black looks good. Would of got it if I didn't get my breakout already
@ Matt: Thank you for another awesome video. Watching your content always instantly makes me want to ride my own Harley 😇 I checked the German website and here the basic Nightster is still 14,995 € like in the 2023 model year (all 3 remain the same). 2000 Dollar less tells me that the Nightsters have a hard time in the U.S. also. I literally haven't seen a single Nightster outside a show room yet, not even at the Hamburg Harley Days. The Nightster is a modern sport bike apart from the geometrics and the belt drive. 14,995 €, what else can you get for the money? MT-09 SP / 13199 € Z 900 SE / 12199 € Ducati 698 RVE / 13390 € . You can get a Hornet 750 for 8190 € or a Ducati Scrambler for 10590 €. You don't buy a Nightster because of the fit & finish or because the of the sound. We Europeans loved the Bronx and felt that HD hit the nail on the head with this one, this was THE sportbike from Harley Davidson, it really was. The Sportster S is very appreciated also btw, we love the radical modern hot rod style. And the power. Do you feel the same about the Bronx in the U.S ?
Chrome production went up exponentially in cost, sure, painting, too but not as much. So I would not be surprised if HD would leave the less-interest chrome bikes out of the program more than before. Personally I love brushed aluminium, but that‘s either not in favor of the „mass“. I found it strange to present color updates on limited tourers and leaving standard and ultras out. It would look weird to me that standard models may come with the last year CVO mods, while the limited stay in the 2023 tech trim. Thus, unless there‘s a Ultra-Exclusive non CVO class with the new touring tech changes and options, I can‘t see the CVO features trickle down already this year. I get the feeling, too that the risk-management buffers on the revolution-x ranges were taken out leading to the price reduction, now that they realize, the volume goes up consistently. Revolution-X is a standing success, not a one day craze. Sure, there‘s more sportsters to be sold, but it‘ll catch up. Anyway the only platform supportable with coming tighter compliance rules, i.e. 90dB on all roads, tyres noise and rubber emission rules coming, noise and emission radars being installed all over europe, slowly but steadily… I bet california will find ways of placing similar rulings over the next 5 years. Already now scenic roads and regions are being closed down with 95 and 90dB limitations for motorcycles only, yep, biker hate is getting political traction in europe, even in Brussels/EU, not just country-based/regional.
@brendan_13 vrod was the best engine hd ever made...it needed no stage kits & I think it's faster than a M8, yes my friend hd dropped the ball on that1..we will c what Matt thinks if he answers till then keep 2 wheels down ,pick up the girls & grab em buy the😻nuff said.
@@brendan_13 The M8 is not a better engine than the Revolution, not by a long shot. A 20 year old V-Rod will smoke a brand new Street Bob and the Revo is indestructible.
I was waiting for harley to drop the 117 in the softail slim like they had the screaming eagle 110 with the lowriders and slim. But nah, they discontinued it.... was the most classic looking bike. I settled with the lowrider. Totally went against my style but i love the lean angle
Keep it Up, we all go through up’s and Downs, Do not take the shit people comes up with to heart!!! The best of all, they most probably don’t even have a bike. You inspire your follower, and that is all what matters, all the way from South Africa🤙🏻 I have one motto, never ever give up with out fight, and then get up and KISS ASS✌🏻
In The Netherlands we still have the Pan America standard in 2024. the standard Pan America will cost you € 22495,00(euro's) in grey. The Pan America Special in Grey will cost with the laced wheels and ARH € 26224,00. (euro's) when you want other colour you pay another € 462,00 euro's.
Seems like they are trying to run through the stock of old Touring body work. I wonder how well the new road glide is going to sell. The fairing on it seems rather… polarizing lol.
@@MattLaidlaw the wheels ,the external adjustable rear suspension, the mini batwing, easy removable fairing, the wrap around two tone exhaust, and lack of the massive knee knocker intake and I personally prefer the forward controls as I'm 6,2
Thanks Matt GREAT!!!!I saw that also for Italy, increased the price of the Low rider S about 600 euros, more the color vivid black is no longer the basic one at a price of 600 euros.I made the contract on 20 December, I imagine that there will be a change on my purchase contract😅ciao!!!!!!!!!!from Italy
The bronx is the one bike I really would like to have but the price of its competition is the problem. The bronx would sale like hot cakes at $13.999 😊
Some of these colors look really good on certain models, but I don't care for them on other models at least to me anyway. I like the Sportster S in the Red Rock. I like the Street Bob in the Billiard Gray which surprised me since I'm not a fan of gray. The LowRider S and ST I like the black the best. I like the Breakout in the Blue Burst the best. The Sharkskin Blue looks best on the Fat Boy. I like the Pan America the best in black. I like the red, but not a fan of the fairing being a different color. I like the Road King Special the best in the white along with the Ultra Limited. The Road Glide Limited looks the best in the Sharkskin Blue. I prefer the chrome over the black in the touring models. I also like the Road King standard over the Special. I think it's the chrome and the windshield that makes the difference for me. Looking forward the the reveal of the new models on the 24th.
My neighbor has a '79 Super Glide he bought new in '79. Anyone that says Harley still builds junk is a liar. Harley builds awesome bikes now.
They are built a lot better than they used to be. But they also are built with a lot more plastic parts where there shouldn’t be that used to be metal. They also using cheaper Chinese parts. I know I’m on my 4th one since 2011.
2016 was the last decent engine they built
Harley builds EXPENSIVE JUNK, get it straight guy!
Yeah, sure thing. HD builds great bikes....for rainbow loving woke panty waisted fruit cakes.
Appreciate you taking the time to do this Matt. It's really helpful.
Thanks for watching. I have fun making them.
Great review as always Matt. Honestly, I'm very disappointed with HD not offering the chrome option on both the RG Limited and ultra limited.
As someone who loved the blacked look 15 years ago, I'm very glad I got a 21 chromed road glide
It's surprising for sure. There are a lot of people that prefer chrome on that bike. If I had to choose one it would be the black though. We just sell more of them
I see a new video from Matt Laidlaw I drop everything and start watching it 👍🏻
Good life choice. haha. Thanks man
@@MattLaidlaw Absolutely 🤘🏼😁🤘🏼
Even a small child? Obsessed much?
@@Bluis5445 sorry dude, this is for Harley owners & enthusiasts, you wouldn’t understand it so go watch Vespa videos.
@@Bluis5445 Yes, drop the small child - 😘 Are you serious bro?
Awesome video guys! Good to see Matt back for a visit.
I’ve owned 9 Harleys over the past 17 years, usually one at a time, but 2 at a time for awhile. I ride an average of 30k miles per year approximately. I only experienced one minor problem with any of those bikes and that one problem was fixed for free under warrantee. The people who claim they are not reliable don’t know what they’re talking about.
In a world of online complaints it's good to see good comments now and then. Thanks for leaving this. No vehicle manufacturer is perfect but H-D's are easily some of the most reliable bikes out there. I'm in the same boat as you. I have had maybe 2 instances where I had an issue that needed to be resolved one was a dead battery. The other was a damaged oil cooler.
The bikes are great, it's the dealers that suck.
@@curtisgalper1215 That's not fair to claim that either. Not most, but ALL dealers I've been served by - they were great and demonstrated an absolute professionalism. So no need to absolute it.
The more you do, the more mistakes you make - so mistakes can happen at any level, manufacturing (vendor), sales (dealer), purchase (customer). And that's something I personally can quite safely claim.
@@curtisgalper1215 I have a local dealer who is currently doing a GREAT job. Then, the next closest dealer also does a great job. That dealer is owned by a guy who owns 3 in my state. I’ve had a great experience at 2 of those dealerships. He even made sure I could get my bike in at the last minute before a big ride I was going on. They’ve really gone out of their way to make sure I was taken care of. I can’t say anything about his 3rd dealership because I’ve only bought a t-shirt and a cup holder there, but they were as good as they could have been on those items. I did have one bad experience a few years ago. 1 bad experience goes a long ways to giving a person a bad taste.
@@MattLaidlaw I had a small oil leak on a 2017 Road King with the 107. If I remember right, it had something to do with a faulty gasket or something. Anyway, it was very small and was fixed within a few hours and I never had any problems again.
Absolutely love these videos. This is the go to place for in depth reviews 👊🏽
I bought the White Sand Pearl Low Rider ST , great color and bike
Can you remove the fairing on that one?
@@speaktruth247no why would i want to with the R/F sound system
Awesome Matt, really excited about the new line up. This is the year my wife and I will be purchasing Harley’s. my pick is a Sharkskin Blue Lowrider and my wife will be getting the Nightster Special in grey! Your vids are some of the best on TH-cam Matt, thank you for the time you take getting this to us!
Thank you for the comment! Also, congrats on the future purchases. The Shark Skin Blue Low Rider S is a rad looking motorcycle.
@@MattLaidlaw thanks Matt, we are in Australia so can’t buy from you. If we were in the US most definitely!
Totally agree man, I was SO ready to see a new street bob tank design. I was also confused that they just brought back the baja orange from a few years ago.
No chrome on the Ultra Limited and Road Glide Limited, how sad. I guess I will shop for a used one with chrome.
Another great video, thanks. Please make your Laidlaw HD dealership t shirts available for world wide shipping. I'd love to buy some but don't see them on your website.
There must be a chrome option on Road King!!!
Hi Matt,
thanks for taking the time to show me some bikes today. After test riding the SG my mind is made up. Hope to come by soon for my new or used Street Glide
Appreciate all the hard work and info that comes w this Matt and Co.!!
Thank you. Thanks for checking out the video
Cool review. So looks like we inherited that surcharge , I’m so shocked. One thing ya didn’t mention was the upside forks. Low riders got em’. And I’ve seen the road glide specials and street glide specials and they too have upside down forks and look amazing. I’ve been waiting for Harley to transition into inverted forks. Probably going to be part of the reveal January 24th. Which by the way is my birthday , lol. Gonna make it to L.A. someday and stop by the shop to meet you guys. Thanks Matt.
Come say hi! Yes, the Low Rider S (ST) have the inverted forks. I left out a lot of the details on the bikes on this video just because it was out of the scope of the subject matter. The Street Glide Special and Road Glide Specials, however, do NOT have upside down forks. The New 2023 CVOs are the only Touring chassis bikes that have the inverted forks at the time of me writing this comment.
The white onyx pearl and alpine green looks amazing! The pictures online do not do it justice, especially in the sunlight.
Excellent overview Matt 😊
Great wrap up on whats available so far this year,thanks Matt!
As always-Matt have a interesting and initiated briefing 😀👍
Love the blue on the FXBBS, and got rid of the orange. I thought they would go back to the metal badging like 2019/2020. Would love to see the green on the FXLRST and the Heritage blacked out option. Only available in the chrome.
Excellent review Matt. Always appreciate your thoughts on this stuff. So looking forward to the 24th and your review thereafter.
Another great video Matt thanks always looking forward to your videos in the future
This might sound negative, but it is actually positive; my 2009 Road King will be with me for as long as I live. Has everything that I need and can be rebuilt as many times as needed. I don't know many people these days with enough money and positive future outlook to buy a new bike right now. In fact, I don't know any. The one bike I would consider as a replacement is the Pan America. That is a very useful bike indeed. Great video as always Matt.
i wanna to get the road king special but wanna the chrome look ..too bad that i cant have it new ...do the chrome accessories from past models can be fitted to to the special ?
I love how you keep saying "I doubt they will do that", when you know exactly what's coming hahahahaha. Another great video bud.
Other change I noticed for Heritage, don’t have the option for the black wheels like I have on the 22.
Love the tank badge on the 2024 trikes>
12:05 - spot on, the orange graphic on the vivid black street bob is awful. The grey logo is a nice improvement for sure
People thought and called it the orange bike.
Thanks Matt, great review. Appreciate Laidlaw for your straight forward approach on pricing.😊
I try to give people what they want. Glad that's what is received. Thanks for watching
Dear Matt, seriously, the Softail Standard is THE best looking Harley of all! It even looks great in the new base colour, almost better than in vivid black. It is clean, minimalistic, and handles really great! Love it! 😁👍
It does look good. It’s a clean, simple bike.
Fat Bob coming with the 117 next year?
Good stuff Matt. Thanks for sharing
Have a happy day 🙏🙏👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊😊😊
Hey Matt, nice rundown of the limited release. I was a bit surprised that the chrome option disappeared on the RG and Ultra, seems like a way to force that black upcharge? IDK. Perhaps the moco saw that dropping the Road King chrome didn't affect sales and decided to follow suit with the glides? Do you think that option will return on the 24th full release? Also, any thoughts on the new '23 CVO fairings possibly showing up on the Specials or ST's to help differentiate them a bit more since the standards are blacked out now?
Oh, and I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the '23 CVO Streetglide recall for the high speed instabilities.
Yea, doing away with chrome on the Limited's was a surprise for me too. I guess anything could happen on the 24th. We will have to wait and see.
I test rode the Nightster and the Special great bike I m wanting to get one this year the Special in Black
Right on. Thanks for the comment and good luck with the Nightster. Hope you enjoy.
@@MattLaidlaw Thank You I appreciate it. I would like to come by your HD dealership in SD.
I have a 2022 PAS.
Have had many traditional HDs since 1987.
In my humble opinion after riding my PA for 22,000 miles since new the 1250 Rev Max engine is the best engine HD has ever built.
Other than the Bosch fuel pump getting noisy at 21,000 miles and replaced under warranty the bike has been trouble free.
I love it and hope its here to stay.
It’s a great engine. I’ve enjoyed mine a lot. It’s different though. I wouldn’t want the rev max in my street glide.
@MattLaidlaw Absolutely.
Harley must do like BMW and continue to produce the venerable and iconic pushrod V Twin.
The Rev Max powered machines as a seperate line.
That said I think it was a tremendous blunder to discontinue the pushrod Sportster.
The excuse that was given by the MOCO was it couldnt be made to meet current emission standards without reengineering it. Kawasaki did it with the KLR 650 single which had been around since the mid 80s.
I call BS on that because the Chinese/ Italian clone is already a reality.
Huge mistake.
The Rev Max line of "sportsters" could been called by a different nomenclature as was
the V Rod.
There is an 07 1200 in my stable now and there will be some more in the future.
That being said the Pan America is one helluva machine.
Three in one actually.
Just hope more dealers get on board and all the early bugs are now a memory.
2024 is its 4th production year.
Should be no more "teething issues".
Hope to see some more broadcasts of your Pan Am experiences.
Thank you
I can't wait to see the Rev Max in the softail lineup..
I’ve had four Harleys and have never had a single issue with any of them. People who say Harley quality is poor simply are clueless.
Hey Matt Great job ty.
Thanks for watching 🤙🏼
Wow the Pearl on the blacked out touring Ultra looks amazing. Can’t wait to see the 2024 models 👍
Softail Standard needs 5 gallon tank and spoke wheels.
Amen
I bought a new Dodge Ram SS/T in 1998. About the same time, my cousin's now ex-husband bought a Heritage Softail Classic. The two vehicles were within $2500 of each other according to my recollection. The Heritage Classic is around the same price on the H-D website...26 years later. So, maybe H-D prices don't keep going up and up.
🛑🛑 SUPER Review Matt!! 👍
I enjoy your attention to detail, explaining each model year.
I’ll be interested to see the 2024 Roll Out.
Something tells me, is the Touring Line will be seeing the upgrades filtering down from the CVO’s from 2023.
💯👍
Thank you! Yea, it will be cool to see what comes our way on the 24th
On the Road Glide 3 can you add a trip trunk?
I like the breakout bike and introducing new colours are pretty cool. You did really great job explaining about all the bikes. Keep up the good work.stay blessed and stay safe on the road😀😀
Way to break it down Matt👍
Thank you. 🤙🏼 I appreciate the positive feedback.
Enjoyed the video. Makes me look forward to the launch. Like I told you in person, it looks like the SG and RG are set to get the CVO facia.
If you’ve been looking at the website over the last month or so, you’d notice the dramatically smaller lineup two weeks ago. New colors and a new headlight. Probably a couple inches bigger and the same old stuff. That’s for the new ones. Not talking about the ones that truly just got a new color. The huge updates are definitely not huge updates.
RoadKing Standard ? Come on HD not all of us want Specials.
Great review Matt! I hope you're correct when you say that Harley is all in on the adventure bike, i'm very interested in what they come out with the upgraded electronics for it....
I can’t wait, the new colors are awesome. Oh boy new colors, yippee some new paints! H.D. Is the best. New colors. Did they tell you about the new colors this year.
Matt I looked into ordering a Road King standard last year. My dealer was told that last year was the last year was the last year you could order the standard. I wanted a white Road King so I held off to see what was offered this year in the special. The police version of course is still available. I am glad I waited for this white. As to the Pan America, I wonder if the new standard will be the 975 version that has been talked about? Thanks for another great vlog. Happy new years to the Laidlaw crew!
Great job Matt 🎉
I’m super disappointed, I was just about I buy a soft tail standard and was excited to see the new grey colour but unfortunately from what I can tell it won’t be coming to Australia 🇦🇺.
Darn Sorry man
Doesn’t look like we’re getting the road glide limited in aus again, either. 😔 not sure why we don’t get it
Thanks for the update, looking forward to the release of new models 2024 😎🤙🏻
Fat Bob is available in 2024 in EU. Nice nimble bike, so why not? I think best colors this year are Blue Burst and Sharkskin.
I always thought the fat bob was a big seller. I personally think it looks awesome - if it came standard with mid controls I’d def consider it
I’m not sure the Fat Boy sells that great anymore either but they’ll keep it around because of it’s legacy! As soon as the sales numbers drop the company drops the bike anymore! I have a 2019 Fat Bob in Scorched Orange and Matt Black so I hate to see it go!
Since the Low Rider S was intro'ed on the softail frame in 2020 the Fat Bob sales have gone down. It did better when it was the stand-out performance option in the family
How you guys as a dealer react to HD getting some interest in agency model like tesla?
Im a huge fan of two tone paint jobs and that green and black on the Freewheeler and Ultra is amazing! The trikes should all come in two tone when you've got that much real estate to cover one color just doesn't get it done IMO.
Well done Matt, appreciate you.🍺
$1000 surcharge was never included in the price of the bike. It was compensation for increased expenses for getting parts during the pandemic. Now that parts are more available Harley just sucked it up in a price increase. To say the prices haven’t increased other than the Nightsters which were hard to move is untrue.
So glad we don't have to be "confused" any more now that the once temporary surcharge has been baked in.
They did the same thing here the Democrats do. Pissed on your leg and told you it's raining 😂
Matt I have a 21 Tri Glide I bought new. I am thinking of trading it in. Do you have that green in stock?
Will be a shame if they get rid of the Fatbob, feel like its got its own unique look
Any insight on the Motor Company’s reasoning with the grey paint thing would be interesting. I actually like the Nightser bikes except I’m 6’1” and it is a bit small. I’d use it for commuting and local get around. I stopped by your dealer last week..closed till the 2nd but dang I thought maybe the business was shut down for a second but saw it was a remodel....really tearing into that building!
I was hoping they made some modifications to the PanAm. Maybe another model with a larger fuel tank to compete with the tiger explorer or bmw gsa. But I hope they have figured out the ongoing issues with the 21 /22 models.
Hi Matt. I love the Softail Standard. Low seat height and obviously add ons is great. Blank canvas. Don't know why the bike is not so popular.
Prices in EU are 4-5k extra for each model...
Bit curious about the colours of the Road King Special. One of the most popular colours is "Vivid Black". Now it's a premium colour, what's that all about? Now it's going to cost you premium for a basic colour.
Yea but all that really matters is total
Price and even with the black up charge it didn’t really go up that much.
The price is obscene compared to a couple of years ago.@@MattLaidlaw
It would be nice if they did a road king standard with a chrome 114
Good stuff Matt, question? Why does the fat boy not come with the 117?????? bugs the hell out of me, also the road king?? don't get it!!!
The Heritage (chrome) and LRST in the grey looks dope
Hope they bring back the FLHR!!!
I had a 2019 and LOVVVVED it
I don mind the billiard grey with black trim, not crazy about chrome. The sharkskin blue is kind of cool wanna see it in person. Onyx white is amazing, blue burst is fine, red rock and alpine green were a miss for me, but don't mind the red rock/black 2 tone
Great review of the 24 carry over models , really like the new Alpine Green on the Breakout, looks awesome, interesting to see the difference in which models are available in the USA against those in Europe, it's probably down to the popularity of specific models , in Europe we see a lot of Sport Glides and Fat Bob's but not many trikes which is probably why we don't get the Road Glide 3 in Europe.
Harley 2024 - YAWN
Bring chrome back. Blacked out sucks. Road King Standard in chrome! ✨
Great video Matt. I am glad to see that the Nightster has a new lower price. I owned the 2022 model year and after many problems (no start issues, defective handlebar issues, defective front ABS brakes and a defective fuel pump). Harley Davidson and my Dealership agreed to buy it back (LEMON LAW), payoff my loan and sell me a new bike of my choice (2023 Street Bob) at a reduced price. I did like the Nightster but it was extremely unreliable. I would have like to see ABS brakes standard on the 2024 Street Bob.
Dang, that sucks you had issues with your Nightster. Yes, it's good that H-D has a bike as affordable as the Nightster and they made it even more obtainable. Hopefully you have better luck with the Street Bob. Thanks for the comment man
Shame about the Fat Bob.. I absolutely love my '19 Fat Bob in Wicked Red Denim... I haven't seen a more appealing bike for me since I got it new
Hello Matt, thanks for the video. In Belgium / Europe where I live, I was looking this morning the price of the entry level bike, the Nightster with a price tag of 15500€ which is almost $17,000 with today's current exchange. In your video and in the US, this price point is $12,000... Converted to Euro currency it's less than 11000€, so we pay half the price of the bike for taxes and transportation. Very sad. Happy new 2024 year, ride safe ;-)
Geez. Yea the taxes are a killer. It’s harder to Own a Harley overseas from what I hear. More of a luxury.
When I hear about prices are down on some Harley models what immediately comes to mind is where did Harley Davidson take shortcuts in order to bring down the price...
Matt, for 2024 Harley should come out with new Street Glide/Road Glide ST's AND Road Glide/Ultra Limited ST's with the new fairings/infotainment and 117 VVT's. What do you think?
So jealous of those prices... the Nightster starts at $37000 here in Denmark.
No Softail Deluxe ????
Nope 🥲 we miss it too
Let's just call it what it is. It is Primer with a clear coat over it, leave it to Harley to make someone pay extra for black paint which is the cheapest and easiest paint to obtain. Harley claims they are a premium brand and demand premium price yet not every bike comes with cruise control, still releasing bikes with single disc front brakes, Their touring bikes still use halogen turn signals etc.. Seeing how they don't have all of their touring bikes on their website tells me that they are fixing to do some much needed changes to them. I'm excited to see what they are going to do with those on Jan 24th. Also why didn't Harley just put a factory 2n1 exhaust on the ST so that the bags are the same size? That is something that just doesn't make any sense to me.
Yea that orange on the Street Bob on vivid black is what through me off. Look like a pumpkin. The new Vivid Black looks good. Would of got it if I didn't get my breakout already
Right on. Enjoy the Breakout man.
@ Matt: Thank you for another awesome video. Watching your content always instantly makes me want to ride my own Harley 😇
I checked the German website and here the basic Nightster is still 14,995 € like in the 2023 model year (all 3 remain the same).
2000 Dollar less tells me that the Nightsters have a hard time in the U.S. also. I literally haven't seen a single Nightster outside a show room yet, not even at the Hamburg Harley Days.
The Nightster is a modern sport bike apart from the geometrics and the belt drive. 14,995 €, what else can you get for the money?
MT-09 SP / 13199 €
Z 900 SE / 12199 €
Ducati 698 RVE / 13390 € .
You can get a Hornet 750 for 8190 € or a Ducati Scrambler for 10590 €.
You don't buy a Nightster because of the fit & finish or because the of the sound.
We Europeans loved the Bronx and felt that HD hit the nail on the head with this one, this was THE sportbike from Harley Davidson, it really was.
The Sportster S is very appreciated also btw, we love the radical modern hot rod style. And the power.
Do you feel the same about the Bronx in the U.S ?
Chrome production went up exponentially in cost, sure, painting, too but not as much. So I would not be surprised if HD would leave the less-interest chrome bikes out of the program more than before. Personally I love brushed aluminium, but that‘s either not in favor of the „mass“. I found it strange to present color updates on limited tourers and leaving standard and ultras out. It would look weird to me that standard models may come with the last year CVO mods, while the limited stay in the 2023 tech trim. Thus, unless there‘s a Ultra-Exclusive non CVO class with the new touring tech changes and options, I can‘t see the CVO features trickle down already this year.
I get the feeling, too that the risk-management buffers on the revolution-x ranges were taken out leading to the price reduction, now that they realize, the volume goes up consistently. Revolution-X is a standing success, not a one day craze. Sure, there‘s more sportsters to be sold, but it‘ll catch up. Anyway the only platform supportable with coming tighter compliance rules, i.e. 90dB on all roads, tyres noise and rubber emission rules coming, noise and emission radars being installed all over europe, slowly but steadily… I bet california will find ways of placing similar rulings over the next 5 years. Already now scenic roads and regions are being closed down with 95 and 90dB limitations for motorcycles only, yep, biker hate is getting political traction in europe, even in Brussels/EU, not just country-based/regional.
Hay Matt it's late but happy new year 🎉 HD needs 2 bring back a upgraded vrod muscle & night rod special...what do u think??? nuff said.
Why would you want it back? The M8 has more power and has a 6 speed.
@brendan_13 vrod was the best engine hd ever made...it needed no stage kits & I think it's faster than a M8, yes my friend hd dropped the ball on that1..we will c what Matt thinks if he answers till then keep 2 wheels down ,pick up the girls & grab em buy the😻nuff said.
@@brendan_13 The M8 is not a better engine than the Revolution, not by a long shot.
A 20 year old V-Rod will smoke a brand new Street Bob and the Revo is indestructible.
I was waiting for harley to drop the 117 in the softail slim like they had the screaming eagle 110 with the lowriders and slim. But nah, they discontinued it.... was the most classic looking bike. I settled with the lowrider. Totally went against my style but i love the lean angle
The heritage is still a classic looking bike. Yea, some people are sad about the discontinuation of the Slim.
Can’t wait to be underwhelmed and disappointed on Jan 24th
Looking forward to your “ 1/24 Review” 🤙🏾🤙🏽👍🏼👍🏿👊🏿🤙🤙🏻👍🏻🤙🏿✝️🇺🇸
Keep it Up, we all go through up’s and Downs, Do not take the shit people comes up with to heart!!! The best of all, they most probably don’t even have a bike. You inspire your follower, and that is all what matters, all the way from South Africa🤙🏻 I have one motto, never ever give up with out fight, and then get up and KISS ASS✌🏻
In The Netherlands we still have the Pan America standard in 2024. the standard Pan America will cost you € 22495,00(euro's) in grey. The Pan America Special in Grey will cost with the laced wheels and ARH € 26224,00. (euro's) when you want other colour you pay another € 462,00 euro's.
Seems like they are trying to run through the stock of old Touring body work. I wonder how well the new road glide is going to sell. The fairing on it seems rather… polarizing lol.
No Fat Bob?
Bring back the original Fat Boy look!
Darn. A Heritage in Shark Skin Blue with white walls would have been awesome.
I'd really like to see Harley come back with the sport glide again .
What do you like about it over the Low Rider ST?
@@MattLaidlaw the wheels ,the external adjustable rear suspension, the mini batwing, easy removable fairing, the wrap around two tone exhaust, and lack of the massive knee knocker intake and I personally prefer the forward controls as I'm 6,2
@@MattLaidlaw ?
Thanks Matt GREAT!!!!I saw that also for Italy, increased the price of the Low rider S about 600 euros, more the color vivid black is no longer the basic one at a price of 600 euros.I made the contract on 20 December, I imagine that there will be a change on my purchase contract😅ciao!!!!!!!!!!from Italy
Do you think they will make the Bronx ?
Who knows 🤥
The bronx is the one bike I really would like to have but the price of its competition is the problem. The bronx would sale like hot cakes at $13.999 😊
Some of these colors look really good on certain models, but I don't care for them on other models at least to me anyway. I like the Sportster S in the Red Rock. I like the Street Bob in the Billiard Gray which surprised me since I'm not a fan of gray. The LowRider S and ST I like the black the best. I like the Breakout in the Blue Burst the best. The Sharkskin Blue looks best on the Fat Boy. I like the Pan America the best in black. I like the red, but not a fan of the fairing being a different color. I like the Road King Special the best in the white along with the Ultra Limited. The Road Glide Limited looks the best in the Sharkskin Blue. I prefer the chrome over the black in the touring models. I also like the Road King standard over the Special. I think it's the chrome and the windshield that makes the difference for me. Looking forward the the reveal of the new models on the 24th.