SHE'S GONE! | LABOUR | PARIS PALOMA
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“If we had a daughter I’d watch and could not save her” has made me sob on multiple occasions
I Always cry when it gets to that part
Yay! I saw on her tiktok how she had taken recordings of hundreds of women screaming, chanting, singing, harmonizing, anything else you could think of and put them all together. I believe that's the part where ALL the layering is. It was originally a trend on tiktok as female rage and grew to be a couple others. I'm so glad you reacted to this because everytime I listen to it my body fills with chills.
She literally has a version called the Labour- the Cacophony. It includes all those womens voices on the track. It's incredible.
The Cacophony is SO POWERFUL. I feel the rage of my maternal line, even if I'm not being treated the way they were. I feel the weight of 1000 generations hit me all at once
The line that hits the hardest for me is the "so he never lifts a finger", which could be taking care of the house and him, or so that he doesn't"lift a finger " and hurt her
Yes, this line has always made me think of the options!
So many lines in this song have double or more meanings. "the capillaries in my eyes are bursting" can be caused by physical strain...or beating. "if our love dies" can be either actual death or fleeing "you sure make me do a whole lot of labour" can be either physical work or having baby after baby "it's not an act of love if you make her" can be so many things from forcing her to work...to actual r*pe. Every time I listen to it, I pick up on more. So powerful.
I once read somewhere that this song awakens the generational anger of women and I absolutely agree with that statement. I luckily have a very healthy relationship but this song makes me feel that anger.
The double meaning of the „so that he never lifts a finger“ line hits me every single time I hear it.
Great reaction, guys! ❤
Especially since that line has a double meaning; "never lifts a finger" also refers to not wanting to be hit as well as him doing no work😣
I feel like people don’t talk about this either, but “it’s not an act of love if you make her,” really makes me think of sex too, and how a lot of men expect it in relationships solely because they’re in a relationship while do nothing to contribute
@@Pupsii_Cola both op’s and your lines are present in my parent’s marriage. He demands to be babied as soon as he gets home because “I work” (40hrs a week like any other adult), for 13 years he was also physically abusive towards her (I was the one who actually stopped it) but more than once (probably even a dozen) in my late teen/adult years I woke up to my mom having a severe panic attack because my dad would just, wake her up like that. For reference she was an SA victim with a son from the SA, my dad knew this and even met and liked my brother. Some men are just downright disgusting, my father is one of them and since I’m an adult I tell him right to his face, he doesn’t see anything wrong with it because “every man back then did it” yeah but you married at 35, not 18 so you knew the times had changed
I agree, this and the "Siren" of Melanie Martinez awaken some primal generational irrational anger and betrayal in men
@@addimess6297 I hope you know that your mother likely had no good choices but staying... Shelters are not what people say, and everything is built to keep women from escaping
"weaponize the false incompetence; it's dominance under a guise" he knew what he was doing, he just figured she wouldn't have the strength or self respect to leave
If anyone recognized the fruit, it’s a pomegranate. It’s commonly associated with fertility so it’s great imagery but it also reminds everyone of Hades & Persephone (depending on the version of the tale) and how Persephone went from a dutiful daughter to a strong and beautifully strong queen of the Underworld.
There are so many tiny things in this video. The candles for example too.
Incredible
It's also a symbol of how Hades tricked Persephone to stay in the Underworld.
If you take the most common version of the myth, Hades abducted Persephone and Paris Paloma eating the pomegranate symbolises a woman imbibing the wisdom from that experience and thereby growing powerful from it; she thereby becomes the 'queen of the underworld' as in the myths.
Little known fun fact Persephone predates hades and has always been associated with death. To the point that her name literally means to cause death. The mycaneians feared her so much they didn't even say her name because they thought it might attract her attention.
It's common to see/hear women's stories around things like Thanksgiving when it's all the men that watch the football while the women cook. And then after the meal, the men go and lounge on the couch because they're so full and sleepy and the women (who are also full and sleepy) will go and clean everything up and do the dishes. Once you start watching for these things, you'll notice more and more.
Yes!!! This often also goes for the children present. Girls are expected to help cook and set the table and do the dishes, boys can run around, play and relax. I remember starting to notice this in my family when I was around 10 years old. I would ask my mom and grandma why my brother and boy cousins weren't helping and they would just be confused like "why would they???"
It's so sad and so, so frustrating.
even just a family dinner. we invited some family to our house. i noticed that after a big meal i would get up to help my aunts and my mother clean up while my uncle lounged on the couch in our living room.
My grandfather (bless him) is the only man I’ve ever seen helping the women cook in the kitchen during Thanksgiving. The other men go straight to the living room to talk and watch tv until the food is ready.
@@SomethingHereIsAbitFruity that's exactly what happens in my family, except my dad is the only one that helps
I think it is even worse with barbecues. The women buy everything, marinate and prepare meat, fix salads, side dishes, maybe even desserts, set the table, carry everything out, and clean everything afterwards, but then the man will pat them on the back and ask benevolently if it wasn’t nice they didn’t have to cook for once since he put the meat on the grill ans turned it a couple of times. Watched it too often. And I’m not saying these men are asses on purpose, it’s just really literally unseen labour.
I'm gonna nerd out about the lyrics a bit because so many of them have double or hidden meanings or are just well done in general.
"The capillaries in my eyes are bursting". This is the first one that caught my attention, because one thing I can never get out of my head is the statistic that showed abusive men who strangled their partner were very likely to kill them at some point. There are very few scenarios in which capillaries burst, but getting strangled is one. It's a very strong start to the chorus, not many people catch it on a first listen, but it implies this extreme level of physical violence without outright saying it and sets the tone for the rest of the song.
"For somebody I thought was my saviour, You sure make me do a whole lot of labour". This is just a line I love on a personal level. It's so devastating. The hope that is being lost here. It also symbolizes the unfortunate reality that many people who are in abusive relationships often get out only to get abused by their new partner too.
"Labour" in itself can mean two things, as you pointed out. It's work, but it's also childbirth. With later lines like "24∕7, baby machine, So he can live out his picket fence dreams" it's clear that the double meaning is intentional.
"Live to attend him, So that he never lifts a finger" is another double meaning. On one hand it means "Attend him so he never has to work", but it also means "Attend him so he never hits me".
And just like the start of the chorus subtly hints at domestic violence, "It's not an act of love if you make her" hints at sexual violence as well. On the surface level it can stand for all the acts of care performed in a relationship, as you two discussed, but the placement of the line is intentional: When the chorus and bridge overlap it aligns with "And the silence haunts our bed chamber". Linking a forced "act of love" with the bedroom shows what the lyric is talking about.
It's such a good song, and every single woman I've talked to about it says the same thing: It resonates. Deeply. Not everyone can relate to every single thing in the song, but everyone has at least one line that reflects their lived experience. For me personally "All day, every day, therapist, mother, maid" hits the closest to home.
It's just a really good song with incredibly clever lyrics and an unfortunately very present and real message.
That capillaries in your eyes can also burst from giving birth. It's another double meaning lyric. The capillaries in her eyes are bursting, but is it from abuse or is it from childbirth? both could be true.
@@margaretconnor5623 I believe it's abuse. The character doesn't have any children with him yet. Take note the tense used in "if we had a daughter, I'd watch and could not save her." Many women who are in relationships that are abusive before children purposely do everything they can NOT to get pregnant. (Were the village witches back in the day actually witches, or did they just know which herbs kept abused women from getting pregnant and the men didn't like that.)
The savior line always makes me think of a young woman using marriage as a way of escaping an abusive father only to find the "savior" is just as bad.
Another one that I think doesn't get mentioned is "fetching water from the Rocky Mountain springs". A popular beer in America is Coors light and the have the Rocky Mountain on the can and say that it's best to drink when those mountains are blue. A great way to speak on the servitude of women with the bring me a beer moment that so many woman have had
this song is very much a woman’s rage song and i LOVE it.
"so that he never lifts a finger." is a double meaning. Never lifts a finger to help, but never lifts a finger to harm her.
oh my god i just realized that
It’s actually 3 meanings. The third is so that he doesn’t point a finger, as in blame her.
It can be applied to actual child birth labor. 24/7 baby machine. Men making the rules about a woman's choice in this aspect. "You make me do too much labor"
It’s such a good song, there are so many lyrics with double meaning
It’s the generational trauma song!!! Also Paris is eating a pomegranate in the video, a fruit associated with femininity and Persephone, a goddess of both spring and death. Just a little bit of video storytelling there
As a woman this song just rings so true. I grew up watching the lyrics of this song play out with my own parents. My mother is a stay at home mom, and raised / is raising, myself and my three younger siblings. She did almost all the cooking and cleaning, took care of the kids, ran a successful small business for a few years, home schooled myself and my siblings, etc, and my dad still had the nerve to tell her she didn't contribute enough to the household and needed to get an outside job on top of all she was doing. Never mind the fact that our poor financial state was due to him not being able to keep a job longer than two years, making stupid business decisions, moving no less than 11 times, etc. Because the only family responsibility he wouldn't let my mother take was taking care of the finances, cause power and control and all that jazz.
Please more Paris Paloma songs, this is the only major one that gets recognized but she has so many other good songs worth listening to
Drywall is my favorite and I am excited to hear the new song she is about to drop as I have heard snip bits of it and it sounds good!
I have not stopped listening to Notre dame in like a week
This hits different with the overturning of Roe in America. 😢💔
Mhm
One thing to notice to on the subject of only one person putting in the effort. You’ll notice she lights a candle when she sits down, while he never lights the one by him. So as you watch the candle by her gets shorter and shorter throughout the song, while the unlit one doesn’t change. And at the end when she leaves, her candle goes out. Leaving him alone, with his totally unlit candle. It’s could be interpreted as the amount of effort put into the relationship and labor needed to keep a household. She burned herself out while he never ‘lifted a finger’ or lit that candle to help.
"Your false incompetence, it's dominance under a guide" is absolutely one of my favourite lines in this song, and that's a tough decision, because this song is packed with bars.I enjoyed your reaction and analysis of this song!
This song is healing and also kinda F's me up. I'm 24 in September. My childhood got fucked when my parents separated when I was 11, and later divorced. I became "Mom". My siblings were 4 and 5 at the time, with one being autistic with significant developmental difficulties. She was in pull-ups and mostly nonverbal - she was mentally about 2 y/o, and faced a lot of challenges growing up. I'm autistic too, but can care for myself. The older I got the more ungrateful my dad got, and the more I saw why my mom left.
"You make me do, too much labour"
Her song “Notredame” was one of my most played songs last year and for good reason. But this one, the lyrics hit so hard for so many people and women. Wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters, sisters… there are so many people who are just casually expected to do so much more domestic work and emotional support and managing to little to no praise.
I have heard this song many times before but today I’m angry and overwhelmed at work and it was almost too much to hear. Choked back tears. It’s a true experience for women, especially as the fabric of the country crumbles and we can see a clear route to legal challenges of our rights as people.
There's a Cacophony version of this song, using a lot of voices from when it was trending on TikTok. I highly recommend that version, it's incredible.
You guys should react to Labour (the cacophony) and The fruits by Paris Paloma!! Those are my all time favorites.
Yes! Labour The Cacaphony is my favorite
Yes the cacophony is just raw and stunning!
This song speaks to me on so many levels. Even though I have not been in an abusive relationship, i know so many of my friends who have.
Chills every time their cacophony of voices kick in.
I think the line about his "weaponized false incompetence" says it all. Love your faces through the whole thing because as ugly as the story is she's telling, it is a beautiful song with definite groove.❤
I was so excited when I saw that you guys reacted to this. I saw her in concert last year and it was one of the best nights of my life. That haunting/ Jolly sailor bold aspect of her voice is so captivating live. I would recommend listening to 'the fruits' and 'as good a reason' next. Or even 'yeti'.
This song is so so powerful to me, thank you so much for listening to it on the channel ❤
People are talking about the pomegranate representing Persephone as a strong female Queen of Hell, but also there’s the subtext that Persephone was actually abducted and r*ped by Hades. She didn’t consent to being made his Queen. She was given to Hades by her father without even asking her opinion, but Her Mother was so distraught she nearly destroyed the Earth trying to find (‘save’) her.
I’m in a happy and loving lesbian marriage now but in the past I’ve been with men and one thing in the song speaks to me the most . “Nymph then a virgin” is sooo real. We are so often pressured into sexual activities. If we don’t give in, we are told we are prudes, teases, fickle, or emotionally exploited (ex:” I feel like you don’t love me.” “I don’t think you are serious about this relationship.”) If we do give in we are called every name under the sun either from them bragging to people or towards us the second anything goes awry. So many of us get pressured into sending pics and them the first threat we get when they get mad is “I have these and I could send them to anyone you know.”
This is not all men (and it is a few lesbians as well, anyone can be toxic). But it is more men than it should be.
I found this song over a year ago, love it! As always sending love to all from Memphis ❤
Heck yeah! Fellow Memphian here.
@@traechurch8657 Gtsy! Stay safe!
The cacophony version always makes me feel so emotional and cry, I’ve been listening to this song everyday since the release
Thanks for taking this on. Many if not most men do not understand emotional labor and kinkeeping.
I kind of interpreted it taking place only in that room as her feeling trapped and confined, unable to escape. Then at the end she was finally able to get out.
This song awakens the rage of the feminine ancestors. The weight of expectation to play so many roles is exhausting.
This song had me in angry tears. I played this for my mom and she felt that way too.
What la funny is that women almost always immediately get this song. Ive dated men and women and every time I’ve dated a man I’ve ended up doing more household chores. When men get into a relationship statistically their household labor load decreases by 20% and women’s increases by 50%. And this is true even in situations where they both work, contribute financially equally AND even when she’s the soul breadwinner. a few terms to look into on this subject is invisible labor, weaponized incompetence, mental load. It’s that ‘hey honey can you grab some milk on your way home’ followed by a ‘where is the store?’ ‘What isle is it on’ ‘what kind of milk do you get?’
I've been WAITING for this reaction! I actually cried, because this song is so powerful and I can feel it bubbling up inside me every time I listen to it😭
I would recommend ‘The Fruits’ by her as well.
ALL day EVERY day!!! 💜💜💜
This is the first time I’ve heard the full thing. It’s great
This is an anthem for all women who have experienced some form of gender inequality, and this kind of behavior from men! All women can relate to this song, because all women are expected to behave and act and dress a certain way from childhood. it’s about the patriarchy as a whole, forcing women to keep having babies, and being subservient and submissive to men, so that they can have a slave labor force in the future. The line, “It’s not an act of love if you make her” is so important! It’s about control of women and gender inequality! THAT IS what this song is about. She said so, herself.
would love for you guys to listen to The Fruits by Paris Paloma. also a very powerful song, i absolutely adore it.
Something incredibly satisfying, moving but also troubling in how much this song resonates with myself and practically tells the story of generations of women in my family. Every line was far too accurate!
I love her and this song. So glad you guys were so engrossed & enjoyed it. She's truly an artist.
She has a collective of this song from tiktok and its is powerful
Being played out in one room… behind closed doors is where it happens. This kind of treatment is so covered but so accepted.
I was soooo sooo soo happy to see this as an option on the patreon poll. This is an awesome song and an awesome reaction. Happy 4th to you and all yours.
Yay! Paris! She is so talented. Notre Dame!
I am so thrilled for this to finally come across reaction radar ❤❤❤great reaction guys 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
MUSIC JUNKIESSSSS, REC ETHEL CAIN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!
Oh my goodness I LOVE Paris Paloma so much!! I don't know if you guys have reacted to it already, but I noticed how much you guys are fans of Sleep Token (my favorite band hahaha) so I'd like to recommend a song of hers called "the fruits" that I put on a playlist full of nothing else but Sleep Token. There is a reason behind that to do with the song's meaning but I don't want to spoil anything haha
yesss!!! im so glad to see you reacting to her, I am a community moderator for her and I loved watching your reactions, definetly would recommend the rest of her music, new album coming out soon as well!
YES! this song is great, and so are you two!
It isn't a stereotype, gentleman. I lived it for 25 years.
This song is an indictment of the patriarchy and how it has damaged women.
This is a reality that almost all women have had to contend with throughout time, including today.
This song has become a battle cry for women all over America as our rights and freedoms are systematically being stripped away.
If you are genuinely interested in what this song means, you should watch h the cacophony version of this song.
When you do, stop the video to read what women all around the world have to say about their treatment at the hands of men.
the fruit is a pomegranate which is associated with fertility and basically is deemed a fruit that represents women. also if you look closely at the candle she lit earlier at the end it goes out because she was over the relationship and the guy had a candle as well that was tall and unlit as he was not putting any effort into the relationship and the girl was which is why it was small and way she lit it at the start, in all the music video is amazing and super creative with all the things that are used to represent something else.
‘So he never lifts a finger’ has 2 means- too much work and to not get beaten.
I read that "the silence of the bedchamber" is an old-fashioned way to talk about miscarriage and infant death. It's a heck of a double meaning if so
I wondered why this song sounded so different from the version I listen to, just realised I listen to LABOUR - the cacophony which has a completely different tone but in my opinion has a stronger sense of female rage
This song always gives me chills, thanks for reacting.
I’M SO GLAD YALL ARE HEARING PARIS PALOMA!!! She’s incredible.
There's a version of that song with all woman around the world singing the song through the internet
Her voice is super pretty! What a strong message as well
I've been waiting for this one!
I just love you guys 😭
Yes!!!
Much love from Sudbury Ontario Canada
This artist does not pull punches but does so in a way that is clever and wrenching.
I LOVE PARIS PALOMA!!! SHES CONSISTENTLY IN MY TOP 5 ON SPOTIFY
I showed this to my mum , it hit her so hard bless her. Her parents split up when she was 10 and she had to look after all of her siblings and her father, so many men say it’s a woman’s job I’m not doing that 😡 we are all equal at the end of the day but unfortunately in some cases that is not the way , it’s about time it all changed 😊
As a mother of 3 kids, alone...thank you for doing this😢
You should check out her recording of this song called Labour- The Cacophony. It's so powerful and involves so many of her fans.
Burn Your Village (Same Old Energy pt.II) - Official Music Video - Kiki Rockwell
Ooh yes but I feel you need to watch Same Old Energy first
i think definitely the most heartbreaking part of this song is that you can hear what sounds like children singing along with her, because the scary truth of the world is that it doesn't matter how old you are. it is all women, whether the men (perpetrators or 'innocent') want to admit it or not. every woman you know, young and old, has a story.
This song perfectly embodies "quiet female rage" to me.
Super emotional. The feminine rage it brings up is wild. Thanks for the reaction. I cry every time.
I love this song so so much!
I recommend you listen to HOT TO GO!
By Chappell Roan
OMG YOU GUYS DID IT. I GAVE UP HOPE. OMG OMG OMG. OMG OMG OMG
Do more Paloma songs please❤
You guys should react to ‘The Fruits’ by her sometime! 😊
Please listen to “i choose violence” and “Victoria’s Secret” by Jax!!!
Hearing this song unearths so much anger toward my father and the way he ruined my mother. The song perfectly describes my mothers life
You guys gotta listen to her song "As good a reason" if you haven't already
And if you want some more feminine rage and vindication I would recommend you look up EMELINE (Cinderela's dead, Everything I'm not, what it means to be a girl, are some good ones to begin with)
You should do "Dry Wall" by Paris Paloma as well. Its like the sequal to labour
Yes! Woman rage song!
This song has made me look at my relationship and realized there are some things that just aren't right... The feminine rage within me became real and prominent as I was not being heard or respected for all I have done. But this song opened up that communication for my husband and I to actually talk about it and us both work on making things better. I think you guys should listen to Drywall because that song is also so very important! Some people don't realize the true trauma they are putting their partners through and that song really captures the essence of being in a toxic relationship.
Thank you. ❤🇧🇷
I know this is such a feminine power ballad, but it is really interesting to hear how you guys brought up the idea that the men dont know that theyve been taught to be like this. Its a refreshing view to know it can help men reevaluate their own upbringing.
Now that Roe's protections are gone, this song takes on even more meanings. "It's not an act of love if you make her" bring another girl into this kind of relationship to be abused, too. "For someone I thought was my savior..." I think MAGA women will be regretting drinking the kool aid soon if they aren't already, especially if marriage becomes a permanent cage for the abused 'for the good of the children'- one of P2025's goals.
Not sure if you will see this as I'm not a patron, but I think you would like "not all men" - Morgan St. Jean. Very similar to this song. (Also Labour has a newer version where Paris includes her fans voices singing along with her that you might enjoy, it's called "labour (the cacophony) - Paris Paloma
Yes!
This song makes me cry angry tears every time.
💖💖💖
Pvris white noise next?
These were raised by a good mom
Another interesting one is Sofia Isella and her song
Us and Pigs
Please do Memphis May Fire. Start with songs with The Challenger album like Vices, The Sinner, Alive in the lights or Red in Tooth & Claw. Pharisees, Sleepless Nights or No Ordinary Love from Unconditional album. Anything from the album Remade with Misery will do, too.
it breaks me every time the last part repeats the second time, in the backroud you can hear young girls in the backround, telling about how us as women are pushed to this narrative as young as possible
I saw this video and was like oh shit
They need to react to Kiki Rockwell, she also does music like Paris Paloma, but Kiki's music it's a little more obscure
you guys need to check out point north 🤘 surprised they have never been on here