Me talking to the imaginary interviewer in my bathroom about society of the spectacle and speculative fiction sitting on my toilet till my knees grow numb
This is great but I do wish, like someone else mentioned, that the interview had been left in its entirety and not cut at times when it's getting interesting. The editing has a tendency to make it seem like he's rambling, which he doesn't deserve.
does anyone know what he's trying to say? I genuinely want to understand. I love his music and everything but i don't know anything about the philosophers/people he's mentioned. can anyone recommend some material to read?
I think he is quite influenced by his teachers from the EGS (whose videos are conviently on youtube!) Check out Giorgio Agamben, Jean-Lucy Nancy, Slavoj Zizek, Alain Badiou (who he quoted for one of his album titles).
He is just making the point that late-capitalist consumer and commodity society, or the "postmodern world", is not as bad as some European thinkers make it seem. He references Adorno, whom, as he mentions, didn't think popular culture (so Hollywood movies, pop music like rock and jazz) was good. He thought it wasn't promoting the emancipation of the human being. Adorno thought it was making us less free. For example, think about how it is supposed to be easily consumable. It is supposed to be immediately pleasurable and not requiring too much figuring out. But Adorno thought that this was promoting ppl to become mindless consumers. Adorno liked Schoenberg and other classical musicians who challenged the listener and made the listener think. Maus is saying that our generation should try to come up with a new language to talk about pop culture and our "life world" more generally. Because, as he says, for our generation, who grew up listening to the Ramones, etc., we find this pop music to be very compelling and important. We find truth in it. We think it is thoughtful. So he is saying that we should try to find a new language, i.e., we need to find new ways of talking about our society that captures all the positive stuff that we find in it. At the end, when talking about Beckett, he is saying that we can't just keep talking about the classics (like the absurdist playwrite Samuel Beckett), but that we need to talk about the "art" that we grew up on and care about, such as science fiction. We need to talk about it, but not in the old language of "this is mindless junk". We need to find a new way of thinking about it such that it captures what is good in it.
@claus4 Part to will upped in a day or two, but you can watch the video called "Psykisk Attack mot Gallerien, 17 December, 2011" for a short teaser of part 2.
that 'essence' gesture he does with his hands... that's not for no reason. i just refuse to believe it's for no reason. ..there's something that's about! *snaps
Lol non-musicians trying to criticize an artists' ramblings. Artists are crazy, but they're crazy for reasons. They also spliced in some of his strangest opinions and connections to paint him as "crazy"
The human being is this night, this empty nothing, that contains everything in its simplicity- an unending wealth of many representations, images, of which none belongs to him-or which are not present. .. . One catches sight of this night when one looks human beings in the eye-into a night that becomes awful (Hegel, Jenaer Realphilosophie,1805-6). www.zizekstudies.org/index.php/ijzs/article/viewFile/136/222 www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/jl/ch01a.htm
This guy is just spitting art and philosophical nonesenses. Yea mixing Adorno with Robocop, Giorgio Moroder and Nazism... this is like a bad excercise of art done by Andre Breton. The Ramones with Adorno, Samuel Beckett and Quantum Leap and Beavis and Butthead. If his idea is to mix pop references with intelectual and phylosophical writers trying to sound even more universal finding shitty patterns ??? WTF ??? He would say that Wittgenstein is a direct link to the Teletubbies language !!!
It sounds as if you've made a myth out of the big philosophers, if you can't see how ideas found in their work can also exist in the pop culture or anywhere else. I don't see anything wrong with disengaging ideas from the works of individuals and from academia. Do you think it is a bad thing to try and demystify intellectual works or perhaps the concept of the intellectual or the artist ? Don't you think it is a bad thing, that popular culture is perceived, as you describe, low in intellectual value, while the only things perceived as valuable intellectually are those who dissociate themselves from the popular culture. While at the same time they certainly hold an equal place in the spectacle as they are perhaps equally popular. It's like feeling a bit of shame for liking say robocop, because it is Hollywood and imagining yourself as doing actual intellectual work when reading Wittgenstein. What's up with that ? Do you think only what calls itself popular culture belong to what is inevitably the popular culture? I think they all play their part in the consumerist shallow life of 2017. It's like eat some burgers from mac donalds, read some adorno, go watch star wars 8. With the internet and everything, everything seems equalized in where its coming from and this is a true lifestyle of right now, so why not express it in art ? Sry if I failed in trying to convey what i mean, I hope you get what i am trying to say. Don't think he is spitting nonsense like Wittgenstein being a direct link to the Teletubbies language, i think he is trying to convey a reality of the information age and the society of the spectacle.
Me talking to the imaginary interviewer in my bathroom about society of the spectacle and speculative fiction sitting on my toilet till my knees grow numb
same
Yes!!
All the interviewer asked him was... 'So John, when does the next tour kick off?'.
great, we got absolutely less that 30% of what points he was trying to make. thanks for editing
I'll never pretend to understand what he's talking about, but he's fucking cute
'You know'... No John, I don't know :'(
This is great but I do wish, like someone else mentioned, that the interview had been left in its entirety and not cut at times when it's getting interesting. The editing has a tendency to make it seem like he's rambling, which he doesn't deserve.
He could be in Slacker.
Im glad 19 people who like john maus also watched slacker. Btw. Its on youtube for free for anyone who hasn't watched it
@@LordZebra Yeah
I want to hear beavis and butthead do a parody argument of john maus between each other. that would give me closure.
John Maus shops at Kohl's
John Maus knows whats best in life.
does anyone know what he's trying to say? I genuinely want to understand. I love his music and everything but i don't know anything about the philosophers/people he's mentioned. can anyone recommend some material to read?
I think he is quite influenced by his teachers from the EGS (whose videos are conviently on youtube!) Check out Giorgio Agamben, Jean-Lucy Nancy, Slavoj Zizek, Alain Badiou (who he quoted for one of his album titles).
he's talking about modern capitalism and how that influences the control or the power over art i think
He is just making the point that late-capitalist consumer and commodity society, or the "postmodern world", is not as bad as some European thinkers make it seem. He references Adorno, whom, as he mentions, didn't think popular culture (so Hollywood movies, pop music like rock and jazz) was good. He thought it wasn't promoting the emancipation of the human being. Adorno thought it was making us less free. For example, think about how it is supposed to be easily consumable. It is supposed to be immediately pleasurable and not requiring too much figuring out. But Adorno thought that this was promoting ppl to become mindless consumers. Adorno liked Schoenberg and other classical musicians who challenged the listener and made the listener think.
Maus is saying that our generation should try to come up with a new language to talk about pop culture and our "life world" more generally. Because, as he says, for our generation, who grew up listening to the Ramones, etc., we find this pop music to be very compelling and important. We find truth in it. We think it is thoughtful. So he is saying that we should try to find a new language, i.e., we need to find new ways of talking about our society that captures all the positive stuff that we find in it.
At the end, when talking about Beckett, he is saying that we can't just keep talking about the classics (like the absurdist playwrite Samuel Beckett), but that we need to talk about the "art" that we grew up on and care about, such as science fiction. We need to talk about it, but not in the old language of "this is mindless junk". We need to find a new way of thinking about it such that it captures what is good in it.
He’s a dream, and he is brilliant...Even with this disjointed editing.
no disrespect but he sounds like the photographer from apocalypse now
@palms159
The second part is now on line.
@claus4 Part to will upped in a day or two, but you can watch the video called "Psykisk Attack mot Gallerien, 17 December, 2011" for a short teaser of part 2.
what is he saying
What's the song in the background at the very start?
enterprise :)
Man is a genius
botched the edit, please upload the full version
that 'essence' gesture he does with his hands... that's not for no reason. i just refuse to believe it's for no reason. ..there's something that's about! *snaps
Worth considering...
Yes it is
Jesus. I want to talk to him.
where is part 2 ?
Lol non-musicians trying to criticize an artists' ramblings. Artists are crazy, but they're crazy for reasons. They also spliced in some of his strangest opinions and connections to paint him as "crazy"
So from what movie is that mutant baby evil leader Cuatu? anyone knows?
Total Recall (1990)
@Psykisktkrig NICE ! thx for fast reply !
I think I just need to slow it down a little... lol
Skip to page 20 (41): scribd.com/doc/66548473/John-Maus-Music . Apparently Maus' misreading of Badiou is intentional. Troll.
@1:21
... #robocop #alexmurphy #fuckinmonsters #consumerism
it's the night of the world
The human being is this night, this empty nothing, that contains everything in its simplicity- an unending wealth of many representations, images, of which none belongs to him-or which are not present. ..
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One catches sight of this night when one looks human beings in the eye-into a night that becomes awful
(Hegel, Jenaer Realphilosophie,1805-6).
www.zizekstudies.org/index.php/ijzs/article/viewFile/136/222
www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/jl/ch01a.htm
all*h yok john maus var
allah?
1:20
This guy is just spitting art and philosophical nonesenses. Yea mixing Adorno with Robocop, Giorgio Moroder and Nazism... this is like a bad excercise of art done by Andre Breton. The Ramones with Adorno, Samuel Beckett and Quantum Leap and Beavis and Butthead. If his idea is to mix pop references with intelectual and phylosophical writers trying to sound even more universal finding shitty patterns ??? WTF ??? He would say that Wittgenstein is a direct link to the Teletubbies language !!!
It sounds as if you've made a myth out of the big philosophers, if you can't see how ideas found in their work can also exist in the pop culture or anywhere else. I don't see anything wrong with disengaging ideas from the works of individuals and from academia. Do you think it is a bad thing to try and demystify intellectual works or perhaps the concept of the intellectual or the artist ? Don't you think it is a bad thing, that popular culture is perceived, as you describe, low in intellectual value, while the only things perceived as valuable intellectually are those who dissociate themselves from the popular culture. While at the same time they certainly hold an equal place in the spectacle as they are perhaps equally popular. It's like feeling a bit of shame for liking say robocop, because it is Hollywood and imagining yourself as doing actual intellectual work when reading Wittgenstein. What's up with that ? Do you think only what calls itself popular culture belong to what is inevitably the popular culture? I think they all play their part in the consumerist shallow life of 2017. It's like eat some burgers from mac donalds, read some adorno, go watch star wars 8. With the internet and everything, everything seems equalized in where its coming from and this is a true lifestyle of right now, so why not express it in art ? Sry if I failed in trying to convey what i mean, I hope you get what i am trying to say. Don't think he is spitting nonsense like Wittgenstein being a direct link to the Teletubbies language, i think he is trying to convey a reality of the information age and the society of the spectacle.