My wife's 2012 Ford Edge was having the same break squishiness. I bled the brakes. Made it a little better. I was debating about taking it to a mechanic either dealership or otherwise. But figured let me search the good old interwebs and see if there's a fix. Well! You provided the fix. I took the car to an area of town where God forbid the brakes actually failed. I wouldn't hit anybody or anything. Drove the car up to 25/30 mph. And slam the brakes. Squishiness was gone! Did this three more times going forward. And twice in reverse. Just on the side of caution. Brake feels better than when we first bought the car 2 years ago.
That is fantastic to hear! Makes for a good start to the day knowing that i have been able to help someone with their problems. Sure the Wife is much safer now too! Thanks for the kind words!
Awesome video. Those last two tips will help it. I've been struggling with these 2011 Edge. New brake booster and Master cylinder, bled brakes and still going to floor. OMG so ridiculous that it needs different steps to get all air out. Older vehicles always easier. Definitely will try this tomorrow and can be done with this vehicle. Thank you for your detailed video.
I had a truck with no brake lights cause me to jam the brakes on our 2014 MKX same exact scenario, bled brakes, replaced master cylinder (shop was $650 actual parts were $150) bled brakes 4 times still a soft pedal. 20 mph jammed the brakes several times on gravel and grass brakes are perfect now. Thanks for the video!
I got a ford edge, this problem comes back after awhile. So what I did was get forscan software and the obdlink cable, and now whenever the brakes get spongy, I just connect up and then it has a ABS bleed procedure, basically you just hold the pedal down and it does whatever it does, that works for about 6 months to a year, and I have to repeat, but it's my cheaper then the fixes required.
Like many others I want to Thank You. I watched your video to see what if any special tools I would need to replace the master cylinder in my wife’s 2014 Ford Edge. The problem was on Christmas Eve night going down a steep hill the brake pedal went down to the floor and had very little uneven stopping power. Checked for fluid loss and reservoir was full then was going to replace the master cylinder. Noticed in your vid I’d need a e6 torx socket and luckily watched your informative video to the end. So I took the car out and applied firm brake pressure at 50mph and pedal was back to normal after doing so. 🙏🏼
Thank you! I found the most useful information started at 11:28. I was already at the point of trying to bleed the system, all repairs done, etc. and that's where the insight was. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for this info. I 'm a veteran mechanic of 39 years and I will never understand why engineers have to try and make things so difficult and stupid. I had a customer with bad master cylinder and after bench bleeding and automated bleeding and manual bleeding could not get a firm pedal. I did find the info about pushing the park brake 5 times but it did not say to bleed first and continue to hold the pedal to the floor whilst doing so. But your procedure did the trick thank again
Your Welcome. This one was a bit frustrating. I certainly don't think these types of failures are helping the manufacturer. It is nice to hear you were able to get it fixed.
I'm going thru this now with a 2013 ford edge sport. I replaced all 4 calipers, rotors, Brake pads and hoses. I still can't get a full brake pedal even after I bleed the lines. Help please.
U the man! 2013 Edge 2.0 Ecoboost. New pads, rotors, master cylinder, bled the crap out of it using ur tip. Still intermittent soft pedal. Should have listened to the end! Will slam those breaks shortly!!
Thanks for the parking brake tip! I will say that the Forscan program has an ABS pump bleed service procedure that will actuate those valves and raise the pedal without the "oh shit" stop. That might help.
Thank you so much for this info! I did exactly what you said and slammed on the brakes on dry pavement, and it resolved the issue! I was fully prepared to replace the master cylinder.
Great video. Had the intermittent problem with the HCU valve(s) sticking and pedal going close to the flooro n a 2013 Edge. First time it happened I was able to unstick it with several hard braking events (forward and reverse) on wet pavement as mentioned on this and other videos. Second time (many months later) the HCU valves got stuck again and the hard stops didn't work. Hooked up Forscan and ran ABS module auto bleed and that worked like a charm. Since this has happened twice in the last year, I realize the more long-term fix may be to replace the HCU, but I'm hoping to delay that large expense with the auto bleed approach.
Thank You Sir for taking all the time to explain all this on your video. The last step sounds like the extra step needed to get brakes back to a more normal feel.
I have Ford Edge Sel 2013.. Problem with brakes. We used all the recommendations of the repair specialists. After replacing the cylinder, the problem did not disappear. And only when the booster was changed, everything fell into place. Bleed the brakes and work great.
Thanks to you, I'm going to do this repair on my own. Thank you for taking the time to put this information out there! All I need is the bleed kit. Thanks again!
I appreciate you taking the time to put this video out I'm having a serious issue trying to bleed these brakes on this 2012 ford edge I haven't tried it yet but I'm sure this will work I thank you very much
Thanks for this information, friend. I had the brake pedal down, it went all the way inside, and I solved it with that technique of accelerating and braking hard, and if it worked, I saved a lot of money, thanks.
In regards to your concluding statements, your research has saved me a replacement of hcu unit...$1600 repair. I did what you said with the forward drive and locked it up on a dirt/gravel road. You could feel the abs working more and more as I repeated it... but the trick is to do it in reverse also... amazing recovery of brake pedal pressure after exercising those valves in the hcu. I also did the tapping technique recommended elsewhere, both seem to work, my brakes feel new!!! Thank you
Hello just saw this comment, having same issue with mine. Tried the braking with no luck just curious as to what this tapping method was you mentioned? Thank you!
Thank you, after replacing the master cylinder do to it being spongy it ended it being the abs that was causing, took it out on a dirt road slammed on the brakes a couple times and it fixed it
Thank you so much for posting your video! I got the soft pedal to the floor after a quick stop... Went out on a four-lane road today with no traffic and locked em up at 50 mph and it was half better. Did it one more time close to 50 and again at 25 and now the brakes are nice and firm just like they were before the issue started. I also did it in reverse at about 20 mph twice. Read some other comments on other videos suggesting doing reverse helps UPDATE: It's been a month and it got soft again today. Got up to 45 on wet Road. Slammed on the brakes two or three times and it's fixed again. Read somewhere in the comments about possibly dirty brake fluid causing the ABS control unit valves to stick. Wondering if a brake fluid flush would help??
Yep. I know my limits. As soon as you put the thing in a vise, i was done. I am a diy parts changer. Tune ups, fluid changes, shocks, radiators, fuel injectors, wheel bearings, brakes from the line to the rotor... i'll take my wife's edge to a local independent shop tomorrow. My work stops at the heads, tranny motherboards, and now apparently master cylinders. Lol Thanks for the help.
I sure hope you watched the video to the end as I discuss the Master cylinder wasn't needed to fix the issue. And explain what I did do to take care of the problem. But I do understand where you are coming from.
My friend had an old '80s van and he was instructed to smash the brake six times just with the vehicle parked to reset the ABS valves. Any chance doing it while it's parked would work as well?
@@FreeAutoMechanic- now that I think about it a few weeks later, this wasn't for his ABS I think it was to reset the brake diverter block where if a leak occurs it closes off that line of the brakes.
10:00 - starts the discussion of special bleeding requirements & issue with soft pedal for no reason fix. And easy fix before replacing any parts discussed at the end.
I was doing rear brakes. Everything was fine when I parked it and I took the rear caliper off cause I couldn’t get the piston to turn in and after the caliper was bled the pedal goes to the floor. Do you think the parking brake bleeding trick would help me?
Great info. Had the low pedal issue happen to me today after a sudden stop. Will give the workaround a shot before I dig into the actual system. Thank you! Liked and Subscribed!
@@papillonblue4038Jjust slam on your brake at 25 miles per hour while turn your car to the left,couple of times and salma on the barakes at 25 milea per hour on revers that should reset the ABS module,don`t mess withh anithing else on your brakes ,before change master cilinder and other parts!
I have been experiencing spongy pedal issues with my Ford Edge sport 2013. A year ago it started going spongy when I used emergency breaking. As soon as the air is released, it will be back to normal. However, later on it doesn't become normal after releasing the air. The master cylinder and brake booster have been replaced. The situation remains the same.Please let me know how I can resolve this issue I hope you can help me out with this issue. My dashboard does not display any warning lights.
In the video I remove the battery to gain access to the master cylinder bolts. As it says in the video, I connect the jump start pack to the battery cables to keep from losing clock and radio settings. If you are able to do the procedure without removing or disconnecting the battery, by all means, go for it.
@@larrnew Resetting the clock isn't to much, however resetting all the radio stations on a CUSTOMERS vehicle might take an extra 1/2 hour to do. On your own vehicle, might not be as much of an issue.
@@larrnew the idea is to follow the manufacturers instructions on bleeding the system. www.freeautomechanic.com/mechanic/forum/2022/01/ford-edge-low-spongy-brake-pedal-fixed
Guys all u gotta do have someone sit the vehicle lift the front up make sure its safe to go under it and hit on the abs pump from underneath with a stick or what ever just little hits while the person is in the car pumping the brakes make sure the vehicle is on and running. Thank me later.
Be sure to watch the video at the end. Very important information that may save you from needing to do anything. But to answer your question about bleeding. Here is the information on doing that: www.freeautomechanic.com/mechanic/forum/2022/01/ford-edge-low-spongy-brake-pedal-fixed
Try activating the ABS first before replacing any parts! He discussed that towards the end of the video after the 10 minute mark. Here's another video about it. th-cam.com/video/EqIkUE46Kvk/w-d-xo.html
My bf tried the reverse brake trick and it worked like a charm!! Thank you for posting this info! Doesn’t hurt to try~right?! N as for the other negative comments on here, keep scrolling and keep your negative sh!t to yourselves. I am very grateful he saw this and tried it! Thank you!!! Btw, I have an MKX 2013 🙌🔧🛞
My wife's 2012 Ford Edge was having the same break squishiness.
I bled the brakes. Made it a little better.
I was debating about taking it to a mechanic either dealership or otherwise. But figured let me search the good old interwebs and see if there's a fix.
Well! You provided the fix.
I took the car to an area of town where God forbid the brakes actually failed. I wouldn't hit anybody or anything. Drove the car up to 25/30 mph. And slam the brakes.
Squishiness was gone! Did this three more times going forward. And twice in reverse. Just on the side of caution.
Brake feels better than when we first bought the car 2 years ago.
That is fantastic to hear! Makes for a good start to the day knowing that i have been able to help someone with their problems. Sure the Wife is much safer now too! Thanks for the kind words!
Awesome video. Those last two tips will help it. I've been struggling with these 2011 Edge. New brake booster and Master cylinder, bled brakes and still going to floor. OMG so ridiculous that it needs different steps to get all air out. Older vehicles always easier. Definitely will try this tomorrow and can be done with this vehicle. Thank you for your detailed video.
I had a truck with no brake lights cause me to jam the brakes on our 2014 MKX same exact scenario, bled brakes, replaced master cylinder (shop was $650 actual parts were $150) bled brakes 4 times still a soft pedal. 20 mph jammed the brakes several times on gravel and grass brakes are perfect now. Thanks for the video!
I got a ford edge, this problem comes back after awhile. So what I did was get forscan software and the obdlink cable, and now whenever the brakes get spongy, I just connect up and then it has a ABS bleed procedure, basically you just hold the pedal down and it does whatever it does, that works for about 6 months to a year, and I have to repeat, but it's my cheaper then the fixes required.
Like many others I want to Thank You. I watched your video to see what if any special tools I would need to replace the master cylinder in my wife’s 2014 Ford Edge. The problem was on Christmas Eve night going down a steep hill the brake pedal went down to the floor and had very little uneven stopping power. Checked for fluid loss and reservoir was full then was going to replace the master cylinder. Noticed in your vid I’d need a e6 torx socket and luckily watched your informative video to the end. So I took the car out and applied firm brake pressure at 50mph and pedal was back to normal after doing so. 🙏🏼
Your welcome!
Thank you so much for the information on this.
Thank you! I found the most useful information started at 11:28. I was already at the point of trying to bleed the system, all repairs done, etc. and that's where the insight was. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for this info. I 'm a veteran mechanic of 39 years and I will never understand why engineers have to try and make things so difficult and stupid. I had a customer with bad master cylinder and after bench bleeding and automated bleeding and manual bleeding could not get a firm pedal. I did find the info about pushing the park brake 5 times but it did not say to bleed first and continue to hold the pedal to the floor whilst doing so. But your procedure did the trick thank again
Your Welcome. This one was a bit frustrating. I certainly don't think these types of failures are helping the manufacturer. It is nice to hear you were able to get it fixed.
I'm going thru this now with a 2013 ford edge sport. I replaced all 4 calipers, rotors, Brake pads and hoses. I still can't get a full brake pedal even after I bleed the lines. Help please.
Do you have to press the park brake while the bleeder valve is opened or closed?
@@troyconklin1549Did you replace your master cylinder?
Thank u for the video
U the man! 2013 Edge 2.0 Ecoboost. New pads, rotors, master cylinder, bled the crap out of it using ur tip. Still intermittent soft pedal. Should have listened to the end! Will slam those breaks shortly!!
Thanks for the parking brake tip! I will say that the Forscan program has an ABS pump bleed service procedure that will actuate those valves and raise the pedal without the "oh shit" stop. That might help.
Thank you so much for this info! I did exactly what you said and slammed on the brakes on dry pavement, and it resolved the issue! I was fully prepared to replace the master cylinder.
That's awesome. Glad to hear it has been useful. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Had the intermittent problem with the HCU valve(s) sticking and pedal going close to the flooro n a 2013 Edge. First time it happened I was able to unstick it with several hard braking events (forward and reverse) on wet pavement as mentioned on this and other videos. Second time (many months later) the HCU valves got stuck again and the hard stops didn't work. Hooked up Forscan and ran ABS module auto bleed and that worked like a charm. Since this has happened twice in the last year, I realize the more long-term fix may be to replace the HCU, but I'm hoping to delay that large expense with the auto bleed approach.
Thank You Sir for taking all the time to explain all this on your video. The last step sounds like the extra step needed to get brakes back to a more normal feel.
That is correct!
I have Ford Edge Sel 2013.. Problem with brakes. We used all the recommendations of the repair specialists. After replacing the cylinder, the problem did not disappear. And only when the booster was changed, everything fell into place. Bleed the brakes and work great.
Thanks to you, I'm going to do this repair on my own. Thank you for taking the time to put this information out there! All I need is the bleed kit. Thanks again!
I appreciate you taking the time to put this video out I'm having a serious issue trying to bleed these brakes on this 2012 ford edge I haven't tried it yet but I'm sure this will work I thank you very much
Your Welcome!
Thanks for this information, friend. I had the brake pedal down, it went all the way inside, and I solved it with that technique of accelerating and braking hard, and if it worked, I saved a lot of money, thanks.
Your Welcome!
In regards to your concluding statements, your research has saved me a replacement of hcu unit...$1600 repair. I did what you said with the forward drive and locked it up on a dirt/gravel road. You could feel the abs working more and more as I repeated it... but the trick is to do it in reverse also... amazing recovery of brake pedal pressure after exercising those valves in the hcu. I also did the tapping technique recommended elsewhere, both seem to work, my brakes feel new!!! Thank you
Glad to hear it saved you a big chunk of money and most importantly fixed your brake problem.
Hello just saw this comment, having same issue with mine. Tried the braking with no luck just curious as to what this tapping method was you mentioned? Thank you!
@@FreeAutoMechanicYeah what's the tapping technique?
Thank you, after replacing the master cylinder do to it being spongy it ended it being the abs that was causing, took it out on a dirt road slammed on the brakes a couple times and it fixed it
That's Awesome! Glad you got it fixed.
500 to 1000 bucks, anything a guy or gal can do to save some money is worth a try thanks for the info. 👍👍👍👍👍
Tips and tricks right at the end there were super solid
Thanks!
Very good info thank you, I’ve got that exact problem on my wife’s 2017 edge titanium. I’m gonna try the gravel road first and go from there. 👍
Let me know how it turns out for you.
How did it go for you?
Thank you so much for posting your video! I got the soft pedal to the floor after a quick stop... Went out on a four-lane road today with no traffic and locked em up at 50 mph and it was half better. Did it one more time close to 50 and again at 25 and now the brakes are nice and firm just like they were before the issue started. I also did it in reverse at about 20 mph twice. Read some other comments on other videos suggesting doing reverse helps UPDATE: It's been a month and it got soft again today. Got up to 45 on wet Road. Slammed on the brakes two or three times and it's fixed again. Read somewhere in the comments about possibly dirty brake fluid causing the ABS control unit valves to stick. Wondering if a brake fluid flush would help??
You hve to change abs pump I think
great information. I especially liked the jump pack trick. Thank you for sharing
Wonder if my Forscan has a proceedure to fix the stuck valve issue. I'll check it out tomorrow and see.
Thx been having that same problem on sister’s vehicle, definitely gonna try it
Yep. I know my limits. As soon as you put the thing in a vise, i was done.
I am a diy parts changer. Tune ups, fluid changes, shocks, radiators, fuel injectors, wheel bearings, brakes from the line to the rotor... i'll take my wife's edge to a local independent shop tomorrow. My work stops at the heads, tranny motherboards, and now apparently master cylinders. Lol
Thanks for the help.
I sure hope you watched the video to the end as I discuss the Master cylinder wasn't needed to fix the issue. And explain what I did do to take care of the problem. But I do understand where you are coming from.
My friend had an old '80s van and he was instructed to smash the brake six times just with the vehicle parked to reset the ABS valves. Any chance doing it while it's parked would work as well?
doubtful but let me know if you experience something different.
@@FreeAutoMechanic- now that I think about it a few weeks later, this wasn't for his ABS I think it was to reset the brake diverter block where if a leak occurs it closes off that line of the brakes.
Thank you for the kind information I need it help with the same problem and you help me fix the problem thank you
D A W G! Thanks for the Doorman part # for the bleeder kit.
I am going through the same problem.gonna try this after I re bleed the brakes
It is a tough one to deal with. Let us know how it turns out.
There are TSB's for the brake booster on these as well.
Best video ever by far
appreciate it, thanks for watching!
10:00 - starts the discussion of special bleeding requirements & issue with soft pedal for no reason fix. And easy fix before replacing any parts discussed at the end.
I was doing rear brakes. Everything was fine when I parked it and I took the rear caliper off cause I couldn’t get the piston to turn in and after the caliper was bled the pedal goes to the floor. Do you think the parking brake bleeding trick would help me?
YES. It is identified in the bleeding procedure as a must.
Excellent explanation 👍! Thank you’re very much!
Great info. Had the low pedal issue happen to me today after a sudden stop. Will give the workaround a shot before I dig into the actual system. Thank you! Liked and Subscribed!
Appreciate it, Thanks! Let me know how it turns out.
My master cylinder was replaced but every time I push down hard on the pedal, the brakes go back to going all the way down to the floor mat.
@@papillonblue4038 I have the same problem , how you fixed it please ?
@@papillonblue4038Jjust slam on your brake at 25 miles per hour while turn your car to the left,couple of times and salma on the barakes at 25 milea per hour on revers that should reset the ABS module,don`t mess withh anithing else on your brakes ,before change master cilinder and other parts!
@@joserivas2992why turning to the left?
I have been experiencing spongy pedal issues with my Ford Edge sport 2013. A year ago it started going spongy when I used emergency breaking. As soon as the air is released, it will be back to normal. However, later on it doesn't become normal after releasing the air. The master cylinder and brake booster have been replaced. The situation remains the same.Please let me know how I can resolve this issue I hope you can help me out with this issue. My dashboard does not display any warning lights.
What is the difference in leaving the battery hooked up, or hooking it up to a different battery? It still has power going to the car, right?
In the video I remove the battery to gain access to the master cylinder bolts. As it says in the video, I connect the jump start pack to the battery cables to keep from losing clock and radio settings. If you are able to do the procedure without removing or disconnecting the battery, by all means, go for it.
@@FreeAutoMechanicI would rather reset the clock…
@@larrnew Resetting the clock isn't to much, however resetting all the radio stations on a CUSTOMERS vehicle might take an extra 1/2 hour to do. On your own vehicle, might not be as much of an issue.
It worked for me. THANK YOU
Do you hit the emergency pedal brake while the bleeder valve is opened or closed?
Great Question. It should be performed while closed. And may need to be done more than once.
@@FreeAutoMechanicif it’s closed how can any air get out?
@@larrnew the idea is to follow the manufacturers instructions on bleeding the system. www.freeautomechanic.com/mechanic/forum/2022/01/ford-edge-low-spongy-brake-pedal-fixed
Guys all u gotta do have someone sit the vehicle lift the front up make sure its safe to go under it and hit on the abs pump from underneath with a stick or what ever just little hits while the person is in the car pumping the brakes make sure the vehicle is on and running. Thank me later.
Excellent video!
Thank you so much this really save me some money
Glad it helped. thanks for watching
Thanks for the help. Is there anyway to bleed the brakes by yourself?
Be sure to watch the video at the end. Very important information that may save you from needing to do anything. But to answer your question about bleeding. Here is the information on doing that: www.freeautomechanic.com/mechanic/forum/2022/01/ford-edge-low-spongy-brake-pedal-fixed
Great job and thank you 👍
10:45 - So while holding the brake pedal down, you press and release the parking brake five times?
yup
Unfortunately still have a soft pedal again. Wondering if it's the ABS pump?
Thank you so much for this tip
Does the engine needs to be running when bleeding the brakes
No. Thanks for watching!
last advise is very useful
Thanks, I had hoped it would be helpful.
Try activating the ABS first before replacing any parts! He discussed that towards the end of the video after the 10 minute mark. Here's another video about it. th-cam.com/video/EqIkUE46Kvk/w-d-xo.html
word to the wise - clock and radio settings are not worth the effort of hooking up more equipment, just reprogram them
The link shows a bleeder kit but case is not included . I want to purchase a kit with the case . Can you help
Here is a kit with a box amzn.to/3woM6gb
So don’t disconnect the master cylinder from the brake pedal? Just rip it out? We need fb fact checkers in here pronto Karen!
There is no need to disconnect anything from the brake pedal. Thanks for watching.
My bf tried the reverse brake trick and it worked like a charm!! Thank you for posting this info! Doesn’t hurt to try~right?! N as for the other negative comments on here, keep scrolling and keep your negative sh!t to yourselves. I am very grateful he saw this and tried it! Thank you!!!
Btw, I have an MKX 2013
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