This is super cool. I love seeing the Mongolian Bökh it’s such an interesting style. Crazy sensitivity level. Lavell is the man, it would be awesome to see him on.
Chadi, I'd like to hear him on your channel in an interview. I still see Judo as more subtle y efficient but the Mongolian Wrestling looks very hardcore. Mongolians are such wonderful people w/such interesting culture. Their incredible throat singing, hunting w/eagles, impressive archery, excellent horsemanship and powerful wrestlers.
I love this. I developed a couple foot sweeps working as a bouncer (shoes and a suit mostly using nogi grips for sweeps or a belt/back of pants/underhook grip for koshiwaza) and I've always felt a big difference using footsweeps IRL vs on the mat... creating big body rotation and feeling the time to "kick" = totally great way to understand the difference. As always thanks for the work you put in, you're killing it man
@@Eric3Frog unfortunately I was "barely trained" (less than a year each judo and muay thai, with some karate, Trad JJ and sumo) when I started in that industry, and most of what I did when things got real rough looked like a sloppy combination of combat sambo + lethwei + sumo... And the easy ones look like a "compliant martial art" or you talk someone in to compliance through a joint manipulation (mostly you just talk them in to leaving, but "verbal judo" is not today's topic) Sometimes you get a good grip on a bigger, "diminished", athletic fellow and you're in for a rodeo ride with a big throw at the end, while the guy is either trying to hit you OR death gripping you OR you've broken/avoided his grips and taken the the angle that makes you look like a ninja with the footsweep/hip throw Now I train my striking all the time and grappling whenever the gyms are open (thanks to covid) I'd love to find a sambo or Bokh style grappling competition but in my country they are rare. Fortunately my BJJ coach is a combat sambo monster, but the gyms are open sporadically here If I had to give one suggestion for making things work IRL, its STRIKING and SHOVING. I shove people all over the place in standup grappling, and sumo slaps have set up some of my best real life throws The russian casting punch to a headlock hip throw, or a jab to open punching an underhook are magical
@@Chadi I trend toward no-gi and my wrestling background tends to bring into my lane, but I need to get out of my comfort zone and accept that I'll be less successful while sparring for awhile.
That was fascinating. It would be fantastic to have Lavell Marshal on to interview. I'd never heard of bokh, and pointing out the subtle differences between it and judo was really interesting. Awesome video.
Herding and grappling awesome. Cowboys known to be awesome grapplers from learning to rope up cattle basically its wrestling control motion timing etc. Like what's needed in any grappling.
Awesome to hear someone talking about Bokh! There are a few documentaries and videos up on TH-cam but it's still interesting to see more. Also is it just me, or is there anyone else who would love one of those jackets..?
I would like to hear what Lavell Marshall will have to say. He also competed at some local judo competetions and would be intressting to hear him talk about the differences with judo
Sweeps so underused ! Should be an art in itself! Btw are you a fan of Sabah al-Shahroura the Diva from lebanon I have same birthday as her.. I luv lebanese hafla off topic but thought you would like to know)))
I agree sweeps are underused, though I believe the reason for that is that sweeps are harder to master, compare to a double leg or te guruma. To me they are the most beautiful takedown
Those leather made clothes are from Southern Mongol style, it is resembles Lion look. The Mongols wear different clothing. But both bokh style is the same, only the clothing is different.
@@Chadi A short preview of the 2nd part of my documentary. I am planning to release it by the end of this month. th-cam.com/video/Sa6YhaNP8uM/w-d-xo.html
@@Chadi yep, very good one, that’s why I asked about bokh vs Senegalese wrestling, they look very similar, still so far away geographically from each other
@@Chadi Hey, thanks for your answer. I did some judo when I was 21-22, then switched to bjj and submission wrestling, been doing it for 5, almost 6 years. I was thinking of trying judo again, because I thing bjj misses the fundamentals which come from judo, such as ukemi and the transition from standing to the ground. They barely train ukemi. I wrestle 1-2 every week where I train my ukemi, but I think pure bjj guys kinda miss half of the art.
A lot of people say that judo is much harder on the body than bjj, but isn't it just a matter of how you train? Last September a 97-year old British judoka got his 10-th dan, so he kept training well into old age.
Kengan Omega brought me here, in the manga it's said that the essence of bokh is being Immovable and shows the fighter practicing with horses trying to move him with chains attached to his arms. It is a very interesting martial art and a fascinating culture
There are only about 10 million mongols in the entire world, so the style is quite rare, but they are doing throws and sweeps which only differ from judo in subtle ways. How could one be nonsense and the other be effective while they are almost the same?
I hope Bokh goes international, and we can have something other than judo and bjj to talk about. How cool is that.
Their gear alone is dope
Doubt it would happen
Don't think it will happen.. Most possiblely would be shuai jiao
Ever heard of Glima? It's viking wrestling. Been going on in Iceland for a thousand years.
Naidan Mönhkbat
Another difference is that Judokas literally sweep after the session where as Bokh practitioners don't
Also
LMAO
The absolute swagger of bokh is stunning to me. And they are amazing to look at technique wise as well. would definantly go to mongolia to get swept
It makes you feel the exagera ted swagger of a bokh wrestler
Please do have marshal on the channel. Thank you for all your hard work. 🙏
I'll set it up with him
yah i'm interested also, thanks
My father prepared and sat in on "Shaolins" Black Belt test for his Shuai Jiao Belt test. Dude has some great grappling skills.
Hell yea bring him on. A lot of information to learn.
Sure
This is super cool. I love seeing the Mongolian Bökh it’s such an interesting style. Crazy sensitivity level. Lavell is the man, it would be awesome to see him on.
I'll set it up
I know very little about the martial arts over at Mongolia, so please do have him come in and enlighten all of us.
Chadi, I'd like to hear him on your channel in an interview. I still see Judo as more subtle y efficient but the Mongolian Wrestling looks very hardcore. Mongolians are such wonderful people w/such interesting culture. Their incredible throat singing, hunting w/eagles, impressive archery, excellent horsemanship and powerful wrestlers.
Will do
I love this. I developed a couple foot sweeps working as a bouncer (shoes and a suit mostly using nogi grips for sweeps or a belt/back of pants/underhook grip for koshiwaza) and I've always felt a big difference using footsweeps IRL vs on the mat... creating big body rotation and feeling the time to "kick" = totally great way to understand the difference. As always thanks for the work you put in, you're killing it man
I’d like to hear more about your adaptations for bouncing/IRL. Thanks for sharing this one!
@@Eric3Frog unfortunately I was "barely trained" (less than a year each judo and muay thai, with some karate, Trad JJ and sumo) when I started in that industry, and most of what I did when things got real rough looked like a sloppy combination of combat sambo + lethwei + sumo...
And the easy ones look like a "compliant martial art" or you talk someone in to compliance through a joint manipulation (mostly you just talk them in to leaving, but "verbal judo" is not today's topic)
Sometimes you get a good grip on a bigger, "diminished", athletic fellow and you're in for a rodeo ride with a big throw at the end, while the guy is either trying to hit you OR death gripping you OR you've broken/avoided his grips and taken the the angle that makes you look like a ninja with the footsweep/hip throw
Now I train my striking all the time and grappling whenever the gyms are open (thanks to covid) I'd love to find a sambo or Bokh style grappling competition but in my country they are rare. Fortunately my BJJ coach is a combat sambo monster, but the gyms are open sporadically here
If I had to give one suggestion for making things work IRL, its STRIKING and SHOVING. I shove people all over the place in standup grappling, and sumo slaps have set up some of my best real life throws
The russian casting punch to a headlock hip throw, or a jab to open punching an underhook are magical
God those Bokh sweeps are so sick
I'd love to get better at standing sweeps.
Stand your rounds standing up
@@Chadi I trend toward no-gi and my wrestling background tends to bring into my lane, but I need to get out of my comfort zone and accept that I'll be less successful while sparring for awhile.
@@rustyshackleford735 foot sweeps can be done no gi too
That was fascinating. It would be fantastic to have Lavell Marshal on to interview. I'd never heard of bokh, and pointing out the subtle differences between it and judo was really interesting. Awesome video.
Yes. Have Mr Marshall on the channel.
Soon
I’ve always appreciated Bokh and the rugged style of Mongolian Judo! What an excellent video topic.
Yes it would be very interesting to have that person in the channel. Great video
Herding and grappling awesome. Cowboys known to be awesome grapplers from learning to rope up cattle basically its wrestling control motion timing etc. Like what's needed in any grappling.
Indeed
I’ve been following Rebel Shaolin for years! Can’t wait to see a video with both of you.🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿
Soon brother
Yes, interview the shiau wrestling guy please, sorry if I wrote wrong the name of that wrestling style
You got it Antonio
Of course! Followed Marshall on IG since the episode on herowithathousandholds
Soon
Yes please have him on the channel soon!
Sure
I would love to hear him on the channel! I have done some Mongol wrestling but with the outer Mongolian ruleset, and it is a blast!
Soon
What's the difference in ruleset?
I can see that you are putting a lot of work in to your videos. Writing boh in Mongolian script- that is awesome. Keep up the good work Chadi!
Thank you
Awesome to hear someone talking about Bokh!
There are a few documentaries and videos up on TH-cam but it's still interesting to see more.
Also is it just me, or is there anyone else who would love one of those jackets..?
I want one
Definitely!
Subscribed after seeing this 👍 really interesting. Thank you :)
Thank you
yes we need more bokh on the internet
You got it
I really enjoyed the talk between lavell and rhuan mcfadden of hero of a thousand holds pod. So please have him on
Soon
I would like to hear what Lavell Marshall will have to say. He also competed at some local judo competetions and would be intressting to hear him talk about the differences with judo
Soon
Cool video! Cool art! Definitely a warrior art!
big fan of Lavell, and bökh. it´d be great to have him on here!
More about Bokh please!
Please bring him on!
Excellent video
I did a couple of zoom seminars with him. He's the real deal.
He sure is
I would love to see Marshall on your show!!!!!
Please have him on. Such an amazing martial art
Soon
Sweeps so underused ! Should be an art in itself! Btw are you a fan of Sabah al-Shahroura the Diva from lebanon I have same birthday as her.. I luv lebanese hafla off topic but thought you would like to know)))
I agree sweeps are underused, though I believe the reason for that is that sweeps are harder to master, compare to a double leg or te guruma. To me they are the most beautiful takedown
I follow him as well definitely get him on here
For sure
Very interesting comparisons, most grappling world wide is shod and this affects how sweeps are done
Marshall is a boss! Pls do have him on :)
hell yeah, get him on the channel
I know bokh is popular in the Mongolian region of Russia (tuva) but do you know if its popular in the mongolian region of China?
yes a lot of the videos you've seen where from inner mongolia
Those leather made clothes are from Southern Mongol style, it is resembles Lion look. The Mongols wear different clothing. But both bokh style is the same, only the clothing is different.
excellent video as a Mongolia (outer) we have slightly different wrestling than our brothers in south of the border !
Thank you
Nice video well put together. I hope to see you and Lavell do a collaboration. Subscribed
Hopefully soon
I would love to apply Bökh techniques along with my Yaw Yan filipino martial art!
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Would love to hear Lavell Marshall on your channel.
You got it
Can u do a video on bokh vsGreco Roman wrestling about there advantages over each other
This is awesome. Are there any books on Bokh?
cool! can you make a video comparing judo foot sweeps vs muay thai foot sweeps?
Look up judo vs muay thai on my channel
Hey chadi, what grappling discipline would you like to study, and do you have a striking background?
I would like to try greco roman wrestling other than my judo, and no never trained in striking
Never seen those sweeps as Uke retreats, no grips, amazing. Would this be legal in Judo?
Great video ☺️ keep it up
Just saw your videos, that's pretty impressive stuff;)
@@Chadi A short preview of the 2nd part of my documentary. I am planning to release it by the end of this month. th-cam.com/video/Sa6YhaNP8uM/w-d-xo.html
Whats the mistake at 4:52?
Yes, please.
Top video!
Thank you 🙇🏻♂️
I would love to hear from Mr Bokh
Nice man
I want to see him in your channel!
Sure
These people are the direct descendants of one of the most skilled and fearless warriors that ever walked the earth..
100%
@@Chadi what about them against senegalese wrestlers? That would have been a UFC-I premium fight... the time when the styles collided..
@@tribalman9668 i have a recent video called judo vs senegalese wrestling
@@Chadi yep, very good one, that’s why I asked about bokh vs Senegalese wrestling, they look very similar, still so far away geographically from each other
@@tribalman9668 i would say bokh is more about ashi waza and laamb is about te waza and high lifts
Yeas plz, have him on your channel
I already did
Amazing fight
Have him on please Chadi.
Soon
Talk about kurash and judo
Definitely have him on
Already did
@@Chadi oh word, watching now
Thumbnail is from “Magic The Gathering” trading card game
HECK YEAH!! BRING HIM.
You got it
Have him on!
You got it
Where's the full dan the wolfman podcast?
I'll release clips
Please, more Bokh
You got it
Ironic intro, judoka sweeping mats awesome
Happy you caught the subtle reference🤙🏻
@@Chadi totally awesome 👌
Have Marshal on the channel.
Sure
Makes a video about judo sweeps, first seconds is judokas sweeping the mat. I see what you did there.
😉
Naidan monkbat vs raoh ryuki
Hey Chadi, at what age did you start judo?
Around 27
@@Chadi Hey, thanks for your answer. I did some judo when I was 21-22, then switched to bjj and submission wrestling, been doing it for 5, almost 6 years. I was thinking of trying judo again, because I thing bjj misses the fundamentals which come from judo, such as ukemi and the transition from standing to the ground. They barely train ukemi. I wrestle 1-2 every week where I train my ukemi, but I think pure bjj guys kinda miss half of the art.
@@stefangurguriev1047 agreed, it's just Judo's ne waza ( gi bjj) with footlocks
A lot of people say that judo is much harder on the body than bjj, but isn't it just a matter of how you train? Last September a 97-year old British judoka got his 10-th dan, so he kept training well into old age.
So this is where kengan omega got his fighter
Are Bokh throws allowed in jiu jitsu competitions? Like would someone call you out over it, or would it just look like an ugly Judo attempt?
You can do it
Please have marshal on
Sure
Tbh these look so beautiful
Mongolia jacket harder to stiff arm. Just go in for body locks
Naidan i will see you in the Azure Sky.
this is fucking sick wtf
They must be a scientific reason as to why they grip in the shoulders a lot in bokh
You can create a very controlled rotation
@@Chadi Makes since. Thanks
🤔😃💯👌👍
You should make an Instagram
Its chadi.he
Five stars !! 🖐👺
🤙🏻
Sasae + KO uchi gari + de ashi garai
Here cuz Jurota and Naidan
Naidan Best boi
shuai jiao should be more popular.people would acctualy talk about something other then judo and bjj
Kengan Omega brought me here, in the manga it's said that the essence of bokh is being Immovable and shows the fighter practicing with horses trying to move him with chains attached to his arms. It is a very interesting martial art and a fascinating culture
Is this Pro wrestling? I see more jumping than a grasshopper
Why does Bokh look so fake. The opponents jump before getting hit
Spoiler alert what if this is what judo came from
That bokh videos look so staged. There is a lot of places in the world with a kind of fight like this, its interesting.
Once again mongolia #1
Its china bokh
Good commentary. I'm smelling a bit of bullshido on the bokh bit. Maybe if I saw it work in MMA or real life, I'd be less skeptical.
There are only about 10 million mongols in the entire world, so the style is quite rare, but they are doing throws and sweeps which only differ from judo in subtle ways. How could one be nonsense and the other be effective while they are almost the same?
They conquered the world with their mounted archery and wrestling, MMA is not the end all be all
I mean. You can see them using it in competition.
Nothing they do looks unreasonable.
@Owl Longbow I'll look
mangolian wrestling 😂🤣
First?
Yes
@@Chadi cool