The unlimited can push any mag because in steady mode the machine keeps the stitch frequency constant so when pressure is applied it gives a slight boost to keep the hz the same no matter how hard you press. It's amazing even barley running at 25 hz it will not stall even having a mag buried into synthetic skin pretty amazing tech
Ive used the 4.0 SNU for 2 years and i completely disagree with your criticism of the button. Iv’e never had an issue finding it or pressing it. Also, I really don’t mind not having a digital readout. The numbers don’t matter to me at all. If i need it faster I just turn it up, if i need it slower i turn it down.
That’s the great thing about it, everything is personal opinion. Like I personally thing that when you wrap the machine with certain products it does make it more difficult to find that button. Is it a problem? Not really, but I think making it a little bit bigger may be a better option for artists that have the same opinion as myself. It’s all about finding balance. Although the readout. As much as I’m used to not having it, I would still prefer to have one, which again is just a personal opinion.
@@ThatTattooShow Yes this is mostly each individual user’s opinion. However, what’s not a matter of opinion is that adding more features to a tool increases the variables and potential for things to go wrong. More tech inside of my tattoo machine could mean 1. The machine could be larger and heavier and 2. More room for technological error/glitches and need for repairs. If that’s worth it to you then that’s completely understandable. For me, It feels like the less i have to pay attention to my tools, the more attention i can pay to the work. I appreciate the streamlining of the tattooing experience that cheyenne provided.
Making it modular and adding a screen and a larger button wouldn’t really add that much weight to it. Also as a tool being modular would be better. As I always say, if the power unit breaks then machine is redundant. If it’s modular the you can send the detachable power unit off for repair and add a 3.5mm jack module to continue using the machine or another power supply module.
@@ThatTattooShow Well, now it sounds like you just want Cheyenne to make an FK irons Exo. I chose Cheyenne’s machine because of the design. I personally would switch companies if Cheyenne made these changes.
Not at all. What I want is a machine that is modular just like other brands. I use the snu 4.0 and 5.0 but if I had the option of having a standard sol nova with the same stroke lengths I would choose those and use a critical battery. Just because I have more flexibility regarding the usability and power options. I’m not sure why you don’t see that not being modular is a design flaw. but each to their own u guess. 👍
used this machine for a few months, and it regularly popped cheyenne cartridge membranes. when i reached out to them, they said they’re aware of it and trying to develop tougher membranes. havent had this issue at all with the acus m1.
I love the option of Switching batteries . Reminds me of my metal detector. I wanted a good 1 and so many options on the market. I choose not to buy 1 with batteries i can never change. I see nothing wrong with removable battery packs. I can now store it and dont have to worry about the acid leaking. I can add new batteries when i need to use it.
Any artist has a machine that shades this is the a great addition I have a machine that has 3.5 a 4.2 and 5 .0 stroke and I keep the 5 mill stroke on it cause I have a bunch of machines that are softer hitting so having machine with these capabilities is great if u pair it with the3.5version u can do everything I feel
Ive owned the 3.5 and 4.0 version of this. I love the use of batteries instead of batter pack, and love size and shape, and I really wanted to love the machines….but they ended up being back ups to my bishop wand packer and shader. I feel like I would prefer the bishop liner over this. They are good machines, I just like the bishops better.
Plz make a video fk irons spectra flux and flux max and exo in details video nd fulll compared….(nd which is the best for all tattoos make, like lineing, shading, colour packing etc….
About the button, what I do is to draw a line with a marker on the tape that I use to wrap the sleeve on the machine, in front of the button. So I can visually see the line and know that the button is on the same row with the line. ❤ Hope it helps someone.
That flower with the splatter in the background is dope, I still want the hawk unio 😢😢, this looks dope but idk if I’d buy $1000 machine just for lining, thanks for the videos bro
Mate this is not like bishop wantliner I have both of them Cheyyene 5mm stroke is 5 mm Yes but depth is 3 mm 😂 Bishop wandliner 5mm stroke 6-7 mm depth I learned 3mm depth after ı bought 😢
Hey i know you said that it’s a tune motor..do you think it’s a different/stronger motor for this machine compared to the others ? Or do you think it’s the same motor with a 5.0 cam
Awesome review ! I am not going to invest in the unlimited series (gesture control is alien to me) but im always curious ☺️. I do have the wand liner and would appreciate a comparison between the 2 and why not with the Flux Max 🤔 thanks
Does this series have any type of give?? Because the wand liner doesn’t which makes me wonder about how versatile the Cheyenne is as opposed to the bishop liner 🤔
@@ericcraw9265 the Bishop liner is a f#kin war hammer.. at first I wasn’t sure if I liked it, have the packer also and had got used to that.. it seemed to work better than the liner on the kinda jobs the liner was specified to do better.. strange.. but, I persevered.. then as it is with us machine geeks.. I found that perfect sweet spot.. for me it’s 7.5v.. it feels like you wanna pull the lines slowly, yet when you move your hand quick, it gets em in quick and solid.. I will say that the 45degree angle does seem to be very relevant with the bishop liner.. doesn’t seem as effective otherwise, still works, but at that angle it really is super fast to work with, I’ve literally lined entire pieces without having to do and 2nd pass on a line, maybe the odd touch up of a connecting line, but generally just good results.. Bit like chris said here.. I was concerned at first.. is it gonna chew people up really easy, however, it hasn’t, it def could 😂😂 but if you don’t hang about on any areas, your cool. Very satisfied with it as a purchase.. If I had to have either the liner or the packer.. I would choose the packer, simple because it’s just more versatile.. it genuinely is the best bit of kit I’ve bought in last few years.
Bishop wandliner 5mm stroke and 5 mm depth Cheyyene unlimited 5 5mm stroke but 3mm depth 5mm stroke is doesnt matter your depth will be maximum 3mm Because of that very big difference in between them
Definitely not paying $1000 for a line work machine but to each his Own they should just Drop a New Series with better buttons and Digital Display System
Why? Perhaps people prefer the way the Cheyenne machine runs over the acus. As nice as the acus is there are aspects of it that may not suit everyone. We are aware they are former engineers as we have reviewed a machine and spoken to them extensively, they are nice people. Doesn’t mean the machine is going to be the same quality and standard build though. Even though the acus m1 is a nice build, doesn’t mean it has everything you need or is much better. That’s down to personal taste.
I have the Acus for 2 monts now and used it on about 15-16 tattoos on different type of skin types and used 5 different type cartridges…….. Shading…the best (4,5mm) but lining tho…its shite!!!…i have to push to get a saturated lines..and go slow..really slow 😢😢 Yes i’ve tried all the settings -1 to +2 low hertz and high hertz…nothing! WTF am i doing wrong??(if you Chris,pulled 20loose liner from cheyenne)
@@roytumbelakaabsolutely no problem lining with the 3.7, 4.5, or 5.0 stroke on the acus. I usually run on +2 and between 88-98 hz depending on area of the body/needle grouping.
I find the Unlimited series SO FRUSTRATING! I've always like Cheyenne's machines. Super smooth, reliable and well built. But for me they've got it wrong with the gesture control. Stigma have the Force which has motion control as an option but still has a screen. And that machine is modular too.
3.5mm generally is a good all rounder stroke length. I wasn’t a fan with the unlimited but I’ve recently been testing the new solnova 3.5 and it’s great.
Hi everyone just be careful before buying this machine Because machine 5mm stroke yes but depth Max 3mm Unlimited 4 mm stroke was 4.25 mm depth I learned this information after ı bought 😢 Not like bishop wandliner
Was there something wrong or a lie in my comment? I just wrote it so that people like me wouldn't have the same problem. I didn't say anything dark about the sponsor. Don't worry about that. I don't understand why you gave this reaction😮 I have told the reason for my disappointment in the situation i am going through. If you tell us why the machine is 3mm depth, it would be explanatory for us. Thank you
Definitely not paying $1000 for a line work machine but to each his Own they should just Drop a New Series with better buttons and Digital Display System
The unlimited can push any mag because in steady mode the machine keeps the stitch frequency constant so when pressure is applied it gives a slight boost to keep the hz the same no matter how hard you press. It's amazing even barley running at 25 hz it will not stall even having a mag buried into synthetic skin pretty amazing tech
Ive used the 4.0 SNU for 2 years and i completely disagree with your criticism of the button. Iv’e never had an issue finding it or pressing it. Also, I really don’t mind not having a digital readout. The numbers don’t matter to me at all. If i need it faster I just turn it up, if i need it slower i turn it down.
That’s the great thing about it, everything is personal opinion. Like I personally thing that when you wrap the machine with certain products it does make it more difficult to find that button. Is it a problem? Not really, but I think making it a little bit bigger may be a better option for artists that have the same opinion as myself. It’s all about finding balance.
Although the readout. As much as I’m used to not having it, I would still prefer to have one, which again is just a personal opinion.
@@ThatTattooShow Yes this is mostly each individual user’s opinion. However, what’s not a matter of opinion is that adding more features to a tool increases the variables and potential for things to go wrong. More tech inside of my tattoo machine could mean 1. The machine could be larger and heavier and 2. More room for technological error/glitches and need for repairs. If that’s worth it to you then that’s completely understandable. For me, It feels like the less i have to pay attention to my tools, the more attention i can pay to the work. I appreciate the streamlining of the tattooing experience that cheyenne provided.
Making it modular and adding a screen and a larger button wouldn’t really add that much weight to it. Also as a tool being modular would be better. As I always say, if the power unit breaks then machine is redundant. If it’s modular the you can send the detachable power unit off for repair and add a 3.5mm jack module to continue using the machine or another power supply module.
@@ThatTattooShow Well, now it sounds like you just want Cheyenne to make an FK irons Exo. I chose Cheyenne’s machine because of the design. I personally would switch companies if Cheyenne made these changes.
Not at all. What I want is a machine that is modular just like other brands. I use the snu 4.0 and 5.0 but if I had the option of having a standard sol nova with the same stroke lengths I would choose those and use a critical battery. Just because I have more flexibility regarding the usability and power options.
I’m not sure why you don’t see that not being modular is a design flaw. but each to their own u guess. 👍
used this machine for a few months, and it regularly popped cheyenne cartridge membranes. when i reached out to them, they said they’re aware of it and trying to develop tougher membranes. havent had this issue at all with the acus m1.
I love the option of Switching batteries . Reminds me of my metal detector. I wanted a good 1 and so many options on the market. I choose not to buy 1 with batteries i can never change. I see nothing wrong with removable battery packs. I can now store it and dont have to worry about the acid leaking. I can add new batteries when i need to use it.
Any artist has a machine that shades this is the a great addition I have a machine that has 3.5 a 4.2 and 5 .0 stroke and I keep the 5 mill stroke on it cause I have a bunch of machines that are softer hitting so having machine with these capabilities is great if u pair it with the3.5version u can do everything I feel
Totally agree.
Ive owned the 3.5 and 4.0 version of this. I love the use of batteries instead of batter pack, and love size and shape, and I really wanted to love the machines….but they ended up being back ups to my bishop wand packer and shader. I feel like I would prefer the bishop liner over this. They are good machines, I just like the bishops better.
Yeah I’m with you on the batteries, they’re cheap and simple…less to go wrong.
What is it about the bishop liner that you prefer over the Cheyenne 5.0? I have the bishop power wand liner but I was really curious about this
I am curious to ..
Cual prefieres 3.5 o 4.0??
Plz make a video fk irons spectra flux and flux max and exo in details video nd fulll compared….(nd which is the best for all tattoos make, like lineing, shading, colour packing etc….
We have many flux videos.
About the button, what I do is to draw a line with a marker on the tape that I use to wrap the sleeve on the machine, in front of the button. So I can visually see the line and know that the button is on the same row with the line. ❤ Hope it helps someone.
Great tip!
For such a price point machine there are no clicks on grips, display?
That flower with the splatter in the background is dope, I still want the hawk unio 😢😢, this looks dope but idk if I’d buy $1000 machine just for lining, thanks for the videos bro
Between that one and flux max?
I’ll be making a video comparing the two.
Can’t wait for it!!! :)
Hi did yours come with instructions as mine didn't 😊
The machines should come with a user manual.
I want a battle of the 5mil strokes, get the bishop liner and have the two machines fight
Mate this is not like bishop wantliner
I have both of them
Cheyyene 5mm stroke is 5 mm Yes but depth is 3 mm 😂
Bishop wandliner 5mm stroke 6-7 mm depth
I learned 3mm depth after ı bought 😢
@@emreaga7025 I did not know that, thank you for the information 🙏
@@emreaga7025 I still don’t get it
Nice Review...you ever tryed the Ai-Tenitas Prophet?
Such a great machine!
I have the being delivered today. Although I won’t get it till next week as I’m off for a few days.
Hi,Did you got a chance to try the Ai tenitas?
What do you think about the 2.5
Haven’t used it yet. I’m assuming it’s going to be exactly the same but a 2.5mm stroke
@@ThatTattooShow i understand that part ,just wanted the detail on the stroke usage or best case
Hey i know you said that it’s a tune motor..do you think it’s a different/stronger motor for this machine compared to the others ? Or do you think it’s the same motor with a 5.0 cam
Good question. My guess is same motor but programmed/tuned differently. I can try and find out though.
@@ThatTattooShow that sounds good
Awesome review! Where can I get one of those 🔥 hats?!
We will have them soon. Just working out the costing etc with supplier.
Awesome review ! I am not going to invest in the unlimited series (gesture control is alien to me) but im always curious ☺️. I do have the wand liner and would appreciate a comparison between the 2 and why not with the Flux Max 🤔 thanks
Nice!!! How does it feel compared to the bishop liner?
I haven’t used the bishop liner just yet. I was apprehensive but after trying this I wouldn’t mind giving it a whirl.
Does this series have any type of give?? Because the wand liner doesn’t which makes me wonder about how versatile the Cheyenne is as opposed to the bishop liner 🤔
@@ericcraw9265 the Bishop liner is a f#kin war hammer.. at first I wasn’t sure if I liked it, have the packer also and had got used to that.. it seemed to work better than the liner on the kinda jobs the liner was specified to do better.. strange.. but, I persevered.. then as it is with us machine geeks.. I found that perfect sweet spot.. for me it’s 7.5v.. it feels like you wanna pull the lines slowly, yet when you move your hand quick, it gets em in quick and solid.. I will say that the 45degree angle does seem to be very relevant with the bishop liner.. doesn’t seem as effective otherwise, still works, but at that angle it really is super fast to work with, I’ve literally lined entire pieces without having to do and 2nd pass on a line, maybe the odd touch up of a connecting line, but generally just good results..
Bit like chris said here.. I was concerned at first.. is it gonna chew people up really easy, however, it hasn’t, it def could 😂😂 but if you don’t hang about on any areas, your cool. Very satisfied with it as a purchase..
If I had to have either the liner or the packer.. I would choose the packer, simple because it’s just more versatile.. it genuinely is the best bit of kit I’ve bought in last few years.
The unlimited 5.0 has responsive mode like the other SNU models
Bishop wandliner 5mm stroke and 5 mm depth
Cheyyene unlimited 5 5mm stroke but 3mm depth
5mm stroke is doesnt matter your depth will be maximum 3mm
Because of that very big difference in between them
please do a neuma review. Thanks
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Definitely not paying $1000 for a line work machine but to each his Own they should just Drop a New Series with better buttons and Digital Display System
Why overpay for Cheyenne?! The Acus M1 is much better and has everything you need - it was created by two ex-engineers who left Cheyenne.
Why? Perhaps people prefer the way the Cheyenne machine runs over the acus. As nice as the acus is there are aspects of it that may not suit everyone. We are aware they are former engineers as we have reviewed a machine and spoken to them extensively, they are nice people. Doesn’t mean the machine is going to be the same quality and standard build though. Even though the acus m1 is a nice build, doesn’t mean it has everything you need or is much better. That’s down to personal taste.
I have the Acus for 2 monts now and used it on about 15-16 tattoos on different type of skin types and used 5 different type cartridges……..
Shading…the best (4,5mm) but lining tho…its shite!!!…i have to push to get a saturated lines..and go slow..really slow 😢😢
Yes i’ve tried all the settings -1 to +2 low hertz and high hertz…nothing!
WTF am i doing wrong??(if you Chris,pulled 20loose liner from cheyenne)
@@roytumbelakaabsolutely no problem lining with the 3.7, 4.5, or 5.0 stroke on the acus. I usually run on +2 and between 88-98 hz depending on area of the body/needle grouping.
I find the Unlimited series SO FRUSTRATING! I've always like Cheyenne's machines. Super smooth, reliable and well built. But for me they've got it wrong with the gesture control. Stigma have the Force which has motion control as an option but still has a screen. And that machine is modular too.
Yeah I think they need a screen and some buttons for sure.
the 3mm depth fucked me over so much. I should have went for the 4mm version, fuck 'sake. 1k down the drain.
3.5mm generally is a good all rounder stroke length. I wasn’t a fan with the unlimited but I’ve recently been testing the new solnova 3.5 and it’s great.
3mm isnt good enough for pepper shading?
Hi everyone just be careful before buying this machine
Because machine 5mm stroke yes but depth Max 3mm
Unlimited 4 mm stroke was 4.25 mm depth
I learned this information after ı bought 😢
Not like bishop wandliner
Do you understand why the needle depth protrusion is 3mm in this machine? If you did then genuinely you wouldn’t be writing this comment.
Was there something wrong or a lie in my comment? I just wrote it so that people like me wouldn't have the same problem. I didn't say anything dark about the sponsor. Don't worry about that. I don't understand why you gave this reaction😮 I have told the reason for my disappointment in the situation i am going through. If you tell us why the machine is 3mm depth, it would be explanatory for us.
Thank you
Quieres decir que la salida de la aguja es corta?😮
Acabo de comprar una y viene en camino🤨🥲
Definitely not paying $1000 for a line work machine but to each his Own they should just Drop a New Series with better buttons and Digital Display System