I'll be using the envision as my main controller for a couple weeks to come so make sure to subscribe to see more gameplay with it! Also if you're going to pick one up, use my friends code "Foxman" at checkout for a little discount! Link to the one I got - scufgaming.com/pc-controllers/scuf-envision-pro-white
the potential on the controller is freaking off the chain. wow take a bow scuf. if the controller is durable i can say its the best ever pro controller hands down
I tested it. The response time is identical wired vs wirelessly. Both avg 1.5ms non-overclock. Overclocl does not improve performed either. I have a dual sense edge too which i tested. It has an impressive 0.5ms response time 1800hz polling rate out of the box. I can’t honestly say I feel the difference between the two.
@@jcramirez77 got the edge yesterday and not regretting it one bit. Always used one paddle so now trying to get used to the second one it’s mad annoying but I’ll get there 😂
The alternate buttons that you showed are not buttons. They're covers. They're for when you don't want the buttons in the way and just want it to be flat. That's still dope and very considerate of what the customer wants but I'm just making it clear that they aren't swappable alternate buttons.
Can't wat to hear your thoughts on this controller. I'm considering this since I play on the PC mainly. I will see because I want to play on both PC and PS5 if possible too.
My only flaw so far is that you can't remap the "View"/"share" button to a paddle. I'm a warzone player and were all having major issues getting the Envision to work as advertised with keybinds like dropshot and dolphin dive. This seems to be more of an Activision issue than a Scuf issue.
when you took off the magnetic cover the it looked like you could do the victrix pro thingy where you swap the d-pad and joystick placements, is this actually true because im planning on practicing using my xbox controller until i have enough money for this and he xbox layout would help a lot!
Was hyped about this controller but I'm close to returning it seems like ether the joystick or software cause the sticks to feel sloppy when aiming almost hard to make small adjustments imo gonna play with I cue a little more and see if it helps
If you played with dogshit digital deadzone controllers like victrix that might be why. Imo this controller has the most smooth natural feeling aim on a controller I've ever used. I play no deadzone linear in the software and on apex for reference.
I returned mine I can’t get use to the joystick as I am a Xbox controller user and the non offset thumb sticks were making me change my grip an relearn how to hold a controller again lol
@@rees3lo I feel u I've been playing on the ps4 stick setup for a longtime but I can pick up a Xbox controller with zero issues really only difference to me is your movement honestly prefer anything but a Xbox controller simply do to the input delay but hey we all have a preference maybe they'll eventually drop another stick layout
It is weird to me that no one has noticed, but this is just a Scuf Vantage 2; instead of PS4 and a volume slider. It is PC and has G buttons where the volume slider was. This controller has a lot of the same (non-software) features that the Vantage 2 had. Oddly enough, people hated the Vantage 2; but love this controller? Although yeah has mechanical buttons, etc. but it really is a re-skinned and updated Vantage 2. They should have just launched as "Scuf Vantage 3"; but I can see why they didn't do that. As that controller wouldn't sell.
It would be worth sending this controller off to a pro controller company to install Hall effect sticks. Make sure you go through a company that actually calibrates them properly tho.
Oh yeah nothing like messing up your insurance lmao . It ain’t that serious man , the sticks now days aren’t as bad as what people think. I’ve had the instinct pro for a long long time and nothing lol .
Lol Hall effect is overhyped, all of them use shit quality at the moment, have worse centering performance and worse pulling rate than a standard controller, I’ve used my scuf for 4 plus years no drift
@@truek1ng7 not all of them are like that. Did you read the part in my comment that mentions “that actually calibrates”. The first batch were crappy, but they’ve gotten much better. Especially when use in conjunction with the calibration board. My mate has a controller with he sticks and they work flawlessly. So honestly dude you’re comment was unnecessary.
@@OPGrimmz idc dude, the only thing bound to break are the sticks. Out of everything it will be the sticks to go first. By the time the bumpers and the rest go the controller will be out of warranty. I’ll then send to my local controller company who initially installed the he sticks and get them to repair whatever is wrong since they repair scuf controllers (: Better than sending it out to the US and waiting a long time as I’m Australian.
I had issues with mine after a couple months ..i got it for christmas ...i sent it in for an exchange ..didnt use the exchange but they just updated it 10 days ago to not need icue at all and its god tier now
This controller felt premium but just try mapping and the amount of headaches this controller has software-wise is unusable. You cannot saved mapped macros while on wireless mode(keybinds or buttons) unless you have the software opened. So it will not save directly to the controller as on-board memory. Did all my research for 4 hrs and nothing worked
@@nazarethproductions7095 too bad. I’ve the razer v2 chroma. Very good controller but I can’t master the thumbsticks for some reasons. Kontrol freeks doesn’t fit in that too Tbh I’ve issues with different controllers lol. I’ve the dual sense edge but I wish it has just one more back button. 2 isn’t enough At this point I’m looking to switch to MNK😂
@@elijnrI prefer MNK, I was looking into a controller for casual play on pc when just on the couch but man was this controller horrible. Returned it the next day lol
@@Nguyenja yeah that's the whole point of this controller. You can bind every button to a different input so you can still claw and have it be useful 😎
Can you please connect this controller to pc VIA "STEAM" and let your pc only users know if you can re-bind every button, stick,peddles, etc. Everything! when connected to STEAM BIG PICTURE MODE (please note you must enable steam input for "ps5 & Generic" controller in settings >controller first)..."NOT USING THE ICUE SOFTWARE ONLY THROUGH STEAM BIG PICTURE MODE"
iPadOS (iOS) & Android compatible? I don’t know if iPadOS falls under PC/Console/Neither 😪 these videos (on all channels) always forget when mention compatibility, that there are iOS and Android newby gamers (like me). Would like to know for CODM/Apex/Warzone reasons 😊
i'm pretty sure the side buttons make you take your fingers off of the bumpers which makes these buttons useless. wonder how the bumpers are, cause hoping they're decent like dual sense and ps in general as opposed to xbox, including elites.
they don't, like I said they're positioned in a super good spot for that like you don't have to take your fingers off the bumpers but also can click the side buttons. Also, I'm not affiliated with scuf in any way so the "shilling" is a natural first look at a controller with high potential and listing off the features
@@mojojojo560 Personally, I definitely like it! I've used Xbox Elite Controller 1 and 2 before now, but everything feels pretty good with this controller. I like the customizations that the controller offers when it comes to binding and mapping keys which is a major plus for me. I think the side paddles are interesting but just need to find that sweet spot when it comes to controller binds!
Can you tell us about input latency for it. So far that and it being out of stock is the only reason i'm thinking of not getting it. Apparently you can overclock it but it does nothing to it. And the latency is more that 1 ms. The ps5 still can be overclocked to 1ms and i think this is 2.5 or so. Does that really matter?
Could I use a button on this controller as a combined tow buttons on my keyboard !? For example in GTA I have to press R1 + X to choose pistol R1 + O to choose SMG Could I create a button on Scuf controller that combined 2 buttons on my regular one ?
Lol my 3 years old Nacon revolution unlimited 2 has same customizable response curve. This controller joysticks are not hot swappable which is a deal breaker
Not sponsored at all, never said it was perfect either. The features are cool & give cool new advantages. I said at the end we'll see how the durability holds up, can't speak on that on day 1
I'll be using the envision as my main controller for a couple weeks to come so make sure to subscribe to see more gameplay with it!
Also if you're going to pick one up, use my friends code "Foxman" at checkout for a little discount!
Link to the one I got - scufgaming.com/pc-controllers/scuf-envision-pro-white
1v1 carther pls pls
how does the paddles feel to you compared to the ps5 reflex?
I'll check it out
no stock bro wtf
Hey Carter, so I’ve been needing a new controller for ps4/5, what do you recommend? Price range is $160$
I would bind the button to alt f4 so i can instantly rage quit.😂
Same
Good idea 👍
Perfect
HAHAHA lmfao
the potential on the controller is freaking off the chain. wow take a bow scuf. if the controller is durable i can say its the best ever pro controller hands down
it would be the best if it had gyro
no its shit no hall affect drift out of the box
@@ayjie6829every Hall effect controller out is ass anyway
yea i just tried one the stick got looser with use
Software is hotdog water. Kinda cripples it unfortunately
I tested it. The response time is identical wired vs wirelessly. Both avg 1.5ms non-overclock. Overclocl does not improve performed either.
I have a dual sense edge too which i tested. It has an impressive 0.5ms response time 1800hz polling rate out of the box. I can’t honestly say I feel the difference between the two.
Dual sense edge or scuf/ cinch controller bro?
@@senseii9ds edge for sure, paddles very responsive and replaceable modules is huge
@@jcramirez77 got the edge yesterday and not regretting it one bit. Always used one paddle so now trying to get used to the second one it’s mad annoying but I’ll get there 😂
@@jcramirez77the paddle mapping is only through a ps5 tho no?
@@samh7805nope, you can use DS4Windows or DSX to remap the back paddles on the Edge.
The alternate buttons that you showed are not buttons. They're covers. They're for when you don't want the buttons in the way and just want it to be flat. That's still dope and very considerate of what the customer wants but I'm just making it clear that they aren't swappable alternate buttons.
Onb I was j abt to say tha💀
Can't wat to hear your thoughts on this controller. I'm considering this since I play on the PC mainly. I will see because I want to play on both PC and PS5 if possible too.
If you want to play on both then the dual sense edge is best u can buy
My only flaw so far is that you can't remap the "View"/"share" button to a paddle. I'm a warzone player and were all having major issues getting the Envision to work as advertised with keybinds like dropshot and dolphin dive. This seems to be more of an Activision issue than a Scuf issue.
They need to allow those 2 buttons to be rebound and they need to allow game pad button macros.
i hope more controller comes out with side buttons
Same
Lets go watching this in school rn
when you took off the magnetic cover the it looked like you could do the victrix pro thingy where you swap the d-pad and joystick placements, is this actually true because im planning on practicing using my xbox controller until i have enough money for this and he xbox layout would help a lot!
i don't believe so
dodnt even notice he uploaded, was just watching the race between you and Mafia
Can you please make a detailed review for fortnite and explain everything we can do???
I noticed that the inside paddles can be actuated from either side of the button so you could use two fingers for the paddles if you want.
Wow, you’re becoming so good at claw for the clip I saw!
"Woah! So cool let me check the price, HOLY SH-"
This controller is so cool. i'm getting it on sunday june 9th. keep up athe good work.
Was hyped about this controller but I'm close to returning it seems like ether the joystick or software cause the sticks to feel sloppy when aiming almost hard to make small adjustments imo gonna play with I cue a little more and see if it helps
I feel the same way, couldn't tell if it was a me problem or the controller
If you played with dogshit digital deadzone controllers like victrix that might be why.
Imo this controller has the most smooth natural feeling aim on a controller I've ever used.
I play no deadzone linear in the software and on apex for reference.
I returned mine I can’t get use to the joystick as I am a Xbox controller user and the non offset thumb sticks were making me change my grip an relearn how to hold a controller again lol
@@rees3lo I feel u I've been playing on the ps4 stick setup for a longtime but I can pick up a Xbox controller with zero issues really only difference to me is your movement honestly prefer anything but a Xbox controller simply do to the input delay but hey we all have a preference maybe they'll eventually drop another stick layout
that was the problem with the older scuf vantage, thanks for confirming
It is weird to me that no one has noticed, but this is just a Scuf Vantage 2; instead of PS4 and a volume slider. It is PC and has G buttons where the volume slider was.
This controller has a lot of the same (non-software) features that the Vantage 2 had. Oddly enough, people hated the Vantage 2; but love this controller? Although yeah has mechanical buttons, etc. but it really is a re-skinned and updated Vantage 2. They should have just launched as "Scuf Vantage 3"; but I can see why they didn't do that. As that controller wouldn't sell.
What’s the best binding for Fortnite you found on the envision ? Make a video about it maybe?
It would be worth sending this controller off to a pro controller company to install Hall effect sticks. Make sure you go through a company that actually calibrates them properly tho.
Oh yeah nothing like messing up your insurance lmao . It ain’t that serious man , the sticks now days aren’t as bad as what people think. I’ve had the instinct pro for a long long time and nothing lol .
Lol Hall effect is overhyped, all of them use shit quality at the moment, have worse centering performance and worse pulling rate than a standard controller, I’ve used my scuf for 4 plus years no drift
@@truek1ng7 not all of them are like that. Did you read the part in my comment that mentions “that actually calibrates”. The first batch were crappy, but they’ve gotten much better. Especially when use in conjunction with the calibration board. My mate has a controller with he sticks and they work flawlessly. So honestly dude you’re comment was unnecessary.
@@OPGrimmz idc dude, the only thing bound to break are the sticks. Out of everything it will be the sticks to go first. By the time the bumpers and the rest go the controller will be out of warranty. I’ll then send to my local controller company who initially installed the he sticks and get them to repair whatever is wrong since they repair scuf controllers (:
Better than sending it out to the US and waiting a long time as I’m Australian.
Nice job on the video
I need this controller to work like it's supposed to with COD.
Could you try and use your og binds
Been looking for a C40 TR replacement for a while due to everything being discontinued. This might be it
i had the same issue. Just got the controller today, it feels good but astro will still be my favorite]
Here before little Timmy’s says 1 hour gang and i like my own COmmEnt. 👇
Literally the comment over youre comment is “I liked my own comment” 💀
@@Rosin2 fr💀
I had issues with mine after a couple months ..i got it for christmas ...i sent it in for an exchange ..didnt use the exchange but they just updated it 10 days ago to not need icue at all and its god tier now
This controller felt premium but just try mapping and the amount of headaches this controller has software-wise is unusable. You cannot saved mapped macros while on wireless mode(keybinds or buttons) unless you have the software opened. So it will not save directly to the controller as on-board memory. Did all my research for 4 hrs and nothing worked
Can I use kontrol freeks in them? What ones work?
Most of them are not compatible
@@nazarethproductions7095 too bad. I’ve the razer v2 chroma. Very good controller but I can’t master the thumbsticks for some reasons. Kontrol freeks doesn’t fit in that too
Tbh I’ve issues with different controllers lol. I’ve the dual sense edge but I wish it has just one more back button. 2 isn’t enough
At this point I’m looking to switch to MNK😂
@@elijnrI prefer MNK, I was looking into a controller for casual play on pc when just on the couch but man was this controller horrible. Returned it the next day lol
@@elijnryes you can, have to use the PlayStation ones.
Missed opportunity. If it has a working touch pad this thing would have all it ever needed
How do you feel about the controller, im considering purchasing but ive seen people have massive issues trying to get it to work
im thinking about getting one also - im curious how durable they are
@@TeeMoneyy8 got mine 2 weeks ago and im loving it, feels so good
So this can’t be used on Xbox ?
Needs staggered sticks and halleffects then it would be the best controller ever made
Symmetrical sticks are superior cus you can claw the d pad
@@MuseR. There are 6 extra buttons not including the 5 in the front no need for claw
@@Nguyenja yeah that's the whole point of this controller. You can bind every button to a different input so you can still claw and have it be useful 😎
I’m switching to pc for Christmas and I recently bought the Xbox elite series 2 controller. I’m so sad that I can’t get this one
The layout is my dream layout but I’m trying to find similar at a budget. Circular dpad at the top left and the Xbox ish style body
Can you please connect this controller to pc VIA "STEAM" and let your pc only users know if you can re-bind every button, stick,peddles, etc. Everything! when connected to STEAM BIG PICTURE MODE (please note you must enable steam input for "ps5 & Generic" controller in settings >controller first)..."NOT USING THE ICUE SOFTWARE ONLY THROUGH STEAM BIG PICTURE MODE"
Hows the paddle placement
iPadOS (iOS) & Android compatible? I don’t know if iPadOS falls under PC/Console/Neither 😪 these videos (on all channels) always forget when mention compatibility, that there are iOS and Android newby gamers (like me). Would like to know for CODM/Apex/Warzone reasons 😊
Do you think it’s hard to use on fortnite without playing Claw?
Are you ever gonna switch back to the reflex or instinct
What should i buy reflex fps or engision pro for competitive fortnite?
I've had a reflex, really is an amazing controller. But the envision does look promising
i'm pretty sure the side buttons make you take your fingers off of the bumpers which makes these buttons useless. wonder how the bumpers are, cause hoping they're decent like dual sense and ps in general as opposed to xbox, including elites.
they don't, like I said they're positioned in a super good spot for that like you don't have to take your fingers off the bumpers but also can click the side buttons.
Also, I'm not affiliated with scuf in any way so the "shilling" is a natural first look at a controller with high potential and listing off the features
idk why a company who makes competitive gaming controllers would do that
@omgryannn yeayour right
Wait if we can use scroll wheel pickup can we use scroll wheel reset as well?
Yes, although I haven't really gotten used to it yet. I have it bound, but find myself still using my typical reset binds
Hopped in your stream maybe a couple of days ago asking about the controller. Got it now so I am excited to use it!
How has it been so far? Thinking about treating myself this christmas.
@@mojojojo560 Personally, I definitely like it! I've used Xbox Elite Controller 1 and 2 before now, but everything feels pretty good with this controller. I like the customizations that the controller offers when it comes to binding and mapping keys which is a major plus for me. I think the side paddles are interesting but just need to find that sweet spot when it comes to controller binds!
Id definately get it if it had a real touchpad
Can you tell us about input latency for it. So far that and it being out of stock is the only reason i'm thinking of not getting it. Apparently you can overclock it but it does nothing to it. And the latency is more that 1 ms. The ps5 still can be overclocked to 1ms and i think this is 2.5 or so. Does that really matter?
I have a PS4 that I've overclocked and for some reason I feel like the envision is faster lol. I've even gone back and forth and still feel it. 🤷
@@MuseR. Someone said the opposite
@@John-wu4rc what can you do 🤷
I got mine through Best Buy 2 days ago and I already got it at home today
Love your vids!
😃
Hows the input play like compared to the scuf duelshock?
Worst higher compared dualsense
I saw a test it was better than the elite and dispense wdge
if only you could swap it to be like xbox layout with the sticks id deffo get one
Could I use a button on this controller as a combined tow buttons on my keyboard !?
For example in GTA I have to press
R1 + X to choose pistol
R1 + O to choose SMG
Could I create a button on Scuf controller that combined 2 buttons on my regular one ?
Sooo can one of the side buttons be used as scroll wheel reset
yes
No gyro for a PC centric controller is like a console exclusive not having controller support.
Can you remap the whole controller, or unmap a button like right stick click
yes, to any button, including keyboard/mouse buttons
Hi man, can you recommend me something between Scuf Envision/ PowerA Fusion Pro 3 and Xbox series 2 Elite?
scuf infinty energon 2 paddles and a adjustable trigger
The scuf instinct has mouse click triggers and normal triggers and trigger stops
Bro are you still gonna use double claw or your gonna switch back to paddles
Looks cool
controllers been sold out since release btw
im definetly buying this
They should do a nintendo next
Console 😢. No but fr this is insane
The Trigger customisation is not new the Exbix Elite Series 1 also got it
Can you do a video on quick swap?
man i wanted to get this but it's out of stock. Definitely will get it once it's back.
Can you test the power A fusion pro ps4 🙏
DUDE! I thought this was a 300 dollar controller! But it is only as much as a dualsense edge! Bro how?
Bro first kill in video with scuff reflex was hecka toxic
Mechanical is completely different from mouse click. What you mean is mouse click.
they had to mix it up so that Microsoft and Sony sue them off copyright
how do i look at a leaderboard in a game if theres no touchpad??
The touchpad is where the share button is on a playstation
God bless you all.
They should have one for console
It won’t be the same
the only thing i dont like is they dont have designers face plates
I'm a big fan of you vids and can you pls make a vid for the Nintendo switch pls :)
The keyboard macros seem banable
Can this work with titan two on pc?? 👀
Lol my 3 years old Nacon revolution unlimited 2 has same customizable response curve. This controller joysticks are not hot swappable which is a deal breaker
Id get it but im on console. If they make something like this for console ill get it within a heartbeat
Try play on ps5 touchpad edit
So pc gets insane fps and insane unfair controllers now?
I have arthritis in both hands. I want to get this for racing games.
i liked my own comment…
i wonder if it works with assetto corsa
Razer Wolverine V1 is STILL the better controller for the price and I cant be convinced otherwise. $60 vs $200.
Ur coping or a casual
get a PlayStation controller so u can overclock it
Sounds like a sponsored video. No controller is perfect.
Not sponsored at all, never said it was perfect either. The features are cool & give cool new advantages. I said at the end we'll see how the durability holds up, can't speak on that on day 1
I have most of that customisation on a Xbox elite
grah grah
The software called
Good video
Does it work with Ps5?
this controller would be the GOAT if it had great gyro, yet it has no gyro lol
Gyro very overrated, theres a good reason no pro uses it
Wait but is not in stock
Does it work on ps5?
Can you use it on ps5
1 hour gang
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oh my god. what a secret.
It copied Xbox Elite series 2 controller
All these attachments and still get shat on by regular console kids 💀
@Carter2k can you give me some contoller your choice . pls
can i play fncs invitationals with it
Gameplay gang
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Bro the is is just like the Xbox elite series 2 controller