One of the best videos explaining the systems in the game, covering most stuff in a clear and concise manner without too much bla bla. Very good man bravo. Loved it.
i look like another WoW transplanted from the ugly body. I mean the characters. I add better feather into it. But it seem not very causal player friendly in long run.
BDO does not P2W, it just pay to pretty. Even one is insane to trade real money for stuff to sell in game. It still cannot get more top V gears. I am curious whether it can inspect other player's gear and stats. That can really boost our heart to chase top gear.
Keep in mind. All of this is set to change when the Amazon Global version drops. They're reworking a lot of systems, and are probably going to change the drop rates and grindyness of the game for what is more in line with Western gamers.
I wanna have the possibility of using skills like that for Tarisland too since each class has 2 different skills like the dps one and tank one I would like that we can switch between them to do a mix As well as having a weapon that we have to upgrade it
Anyone have a map size comparison to some other games? With this video, the map doesn't look big at all. Seem as if you can go from one corner to the other in matter of minutes .
May I ask how you setup your camera that way ? it looks to be at the same level as your head is it like a professional camera that stays in place at a certain level ?
Can you make video or assist with build as I can see you was using great sword and daggers, I am level 28 only but still trying to figure out how to best to setup points
It seems like they will have all the bits that made lineage 2 great with some of the newer rpg mechanics added to make it a newer experience. Just wish we knew the western release date
I'm really hyped by this game, but the thing I'm afraid of is also a consequence of the decision they took to remove autoplay : abysmal drop rate and long grind. When/if you have autoplay, this is not a problem if you can just put the game in autoplay for the boring grind part, and play only for hard boss fights etc. But this game was designed like this initially, then they just removed the autoplay. So now **YOU** will have to do all this long and boring grind manually. I understand why players were scared by autoplay : most game with such a feature are bad. But I feel like it may have been a good thing for players like me who just hate long and repetitive grinding to get some decent gear you need to go have fun in the actual content of the game : PvP (or hard dungeons for ppl who like PvE, which isn't my case at all). I personally would have preferred that they keep the autoplay. I would have gladly let the AI do all the PvE grind, and enjoyed the PvP myself :) You say it yourself : the game is very grindy. And it can get boring. Well yes, that's why they had autoplay in the first place. I feel like players asked to remove it, and now are complaining they'll have to do the grind themselves, which feels contradictory. I still feel like I will thoroughly love this game. Maybe I can get to enjoy the grind too. But I'll especially love this PvP and politics aspects. Reminds me of EVE Online. If one Alliance dominates everything, it's the fault of players : it's their role to decide "it's enough" and form another alliance to counter the big one etc.
Nice review. Thx. Do you think the guild system would be more balanced if an alliance could have only 2-3 guilds or change the member limit of guilds? This would maybe lead to more competition and small guilds contesting too.
Thanks for the opinion so far. I have a question about the performance when there is a lot of action. The videos and streams I saw were fine, but I read that it is not that great on a 6 core CPU?!
The degree doesn´t matter of P2W in a PvP game. When there is a P2W concept they will expand it anyways like everybody else does. I never touched a P2W game and i never will! GL and HF to them who play this game anyways ^^
Why do all players look the same? Is there really that little difference between armorsets? Almost no variation at all. Are there no badass looking armor and weapons?
@@droiid6547 "lot's of games" in all my years of playing mmo's and games it was the first game that wasnt a mobile/afk game that had that auto run. Sure you can turn it off, but the core aspect of the combat is still designed as it were for being a afk game.
it you were pressed about tarisland being p2w and being deceived why the heck are you gonna play anything by NCsoft? they are probably the worse in regards to p2w and deceiving players.
Right when you mentioned the guild system, it reminded me of my six years playing Eve online as a lowly worker for the elite socialite cliques in the massive corporations full of many thousands of players. It was a job, farming for years with no real benefit. Those at the top, just like IRL, got all the stuff lol. Hard pass on this game, no sweatshop mmo for me again.
The top guilds might get more stuff but everyone in a guild gets rewards from every activity and the guild should have a fair system of handing out loot so this isn’t really like eve online.
combat for me is crap.. but loved watching your vids and stream on twitch.. I remember you guys spend a couple of hours on a boss hehe but finally got it
why is it with todays gamer want everything fast and rush. let the flow of the game mature in its natural way over time. far to many mmo now is BORING because of this. to many cry of players demanding higher rate. next thing you know everyone is just up there and everything gets boring. pvp gets boring because literally everyone has the same thing and the supposedly fun pvp only last 1 seconds or whoever kills you first with 1 combo or 2 regardless of gears. no more grinding for things, but of course thats U.S player mentality. BDO is probably the only thing i can thing of that didnt just freebies and handed everything to their players. yeah bdo is a long grind but at least you work for it to get a gain. i think thats what keep the game alive and well played by many still. quit demanding for fast paste game play. who cares if drop rate is low let it be.
this game's greatest limiting factor will be the p2w options when it finally comes to the west - from what i've heard literally everything needed to have max gear on day 1 is purchasable in the cash shop. really hoping this isn't true but it is ncsoft after all.
@@SpidMMOit’s not aggressive p2w. It’s kind of pay to fast. Korean whales do not prefer this game. Because money alone can not win and this is not an auto. Even whale need to grind in this game.
@@nikolowolokin who’s talking about grind? Only idiots grind 10 hours a day. We are talking about PvP? No full loot, timed PvP, toggle PvP. Floppy little shapeshifters emo af
man i have play so many mmorpgs and right now i am playing lotro for lord of the rings online, the quest writing and story plus the old mechanics of an mmrpg are my jam and butter! no mmo can keep me playing like lotro does, any other mmorpg feels generic and monetized to the max :(
eh, lets see how it goes. Im not particularly excited. I feel like its ... Meh. catagory. It could be fun, and give some things much needed. Such as Guild activities etc. But aside that, the general gameplay seems generic and similar to things like Elyon. But im optimistic. Lets give it a chance. If it succeeds, it means the Devs lived to their words and respect the gamers. If it fails then its not the game, but the devs lack of respect.
Make sure you check out my new pay to win review video!
I have now played 100 hours of throne and liberty! Here is my review so far, the pay to win breakdown video is coming on friday!
When release in EU?
Ive really been enjoying it, feels like a very fresh take with a classic mmo feel, and its very well made and polished.
Yessir
One of the best videos explaining the systems in the game, covering most stuff in a clear and concise manner without too much bla bla. Very good man bravo. Loved it.
Thanks appreciate it! I try to be as clear and short as possible
Great video!
As a classic wow player, this looks kinda interesting! Will definitely try it out at launch!
i look like another WoW transplanted from the ugly body. I mean the characters. I add better feather into it. But it seem not very causal player friendly in long run.
so is it like guild wars 2 with its combat where you COULD use LMB to swing your weapon freely?
koreans really is the best mmo game maker ngl look at black dessert it's still one of the best mmo out here even after decades
they made the worst mmo's too lol, only few korean dev actually mades good games without p2w
Word! @@samart333
nah bro lol, black desert is dogshit
@@droiid6547 nah bdo is good it's just the progression systems in the game that are dogshit
BDO does not P2W, it just pay to pretty. Even one is insane to trade real money for stuff to sell in game. It still cannot get more top V gears. I am curious whether it can inspect other player's gear and stats. That can really boost our heart to chase top gear.
i love it you can grind classic and level your weapon, i hope pvp is fun and the combat
So that means i can get the best epic gear without entering 5man Dungeons?? That would be great
Keep in mind. All of this is set to change when the Amazon Global version drops.
They're reworking a lot of systems, and are probably going to change the drop rates and grindyness of the game for what is more in line with Western gamers.
That’s both a good thing and bad.
Positive about it is; smaller difference between p2w
Negative: Game will be too easy
@@SpidMMO expect western players to complain there is nothing to do once they steam roll to max level. 🤣
Where have they stated some of the changes they’re making for Western release?
@@ArdynSolAmazon press release in October/November.
I wanna have the possibility of using skills like that for Tarisland too since each class has 2 different skills like the dps one and tank one I would like that we can switch between them to do a mix
As well as having a weapon that we have to upgrade it
That would be cool
Anyone have a map size comparison to some other games? With this video, the map doesn't look big at all. Seem as if you can go from one corner to the other in matter of minutes .
May I ask how you setup your camera that way ? it looks to be at the same level as your head is it like a professional camera that stays in place at a certain level ?
It’s a logitech webcam it’s on top of my 2nd monitor
Wish we would get a global release date already.
Can you make video or assist with build as I can see you was using great sword and daggers, I am level 28 only but still trying to figure out how to best to setup points
Yeah I’ll be making guide videos soon
It seems like they will have all the bits that made lineage 2 great with some of the newer rpg mechanics added to make it a newer experience.
Just wish we knew the western release date
I'm really hyped by this game, but the thing I'm afraid of is also a consequence of the decision they took to remove autoplay : abysmal drop rate and long grind. When/if you have autoplay, this is not a problem if you can just put the game in autoplay for the boring grind part, and play only for hard boss fights etc. But this game was designed like this initially, then they just removed the autoplay. So now **YOU** will have to do all this long and boring grind manually. I understand why players were scared by autoplay : most game with such a feature are bad. But I feel like it may have been a good thing for players like me who just hate long and repetitive grinding to get some decent gear you need to go have fun in the actual content of the game : PvP (or hard dungeons for ppl who like PvE, which isn't my case at all). I personally would have preferred that they keep the autoplay. I would have gladly let the AI do all the PvE grind, and enjoyed the PvP myself :)
You say it yourself : the game is very grindy. And it can get boring. Well yes, that's why they had autoplay in the first place. I feel like players asked to remove it, and now are complaining they'll have to do the grind themselves, which feels contradictory.
I still feel like I will thoroughly love this game. Maybe I can get to enjoy the grind too. But I'll especially love this PvP and politics aspects. Reminds me of EVE Online. If one Alliance dominates everything, it's the fault of players : it's their role to decide "it's enough" and form another alliance to counter the big one etc.
Nice review. Thx. Do you think the guild system would be more balanced if an alliance could have only 2-3 guilds or change the member limit of guilds? This would maybe lead to more competition and small guilds contesting too.
Yes and No people will find a way around it most likely but will defo make it better
Are the territories guilds fight over weekly fights or daily fights? Because this alone can differentiate a good game from a sad one
Daily
The Zerg PvP isn’t bad as long as they have other options for medium/small scale pvp
Thanks for the opinion so far. I have a question about the performance when there is a lot of action. The videos and streams I saw were fine, but I read that it is not that great on a 6 core CPU?!
I haven’t had an issue yet, but defo could use little more optimizing
@@SpidMMO I have amd 5600x, 32gb ram and amd 7800xt. You think it will be fine? I hope you say no, because I have an eye on the 5800x3d CPU :D
then no ahaha, but seriously it be fine@@vikidivik5427
Yoo, when do you think game goes global?
This mmorpg cross platform? Or only for pc?
Pc for now
Is this korean server
tarisland or throne and liberty spid ?
Video comparing both soon
How is the performance? Is it laggy in main cities or populated areas?
Performance is good I’ve had some issues at world bosses when recording/streaming
I honestly don’t mind zerg PvP. Cus you get to do mass pvp with others and be social. I like to have content that i get to do with my guild/friends.
weapon skill!? That remind the WoW old day had such requirement.
Lost ark remake?
how are yall playing this? Says its not on steam..
This is Korea, not launched global yet
The degree doesn´t matter of P2W in a PvP game. When there is a P2W concept they will expand it anyways like everybody else does. I never touched a P2W game and i never will! GL and HF to them who play this game anyways ^^
So it’s out in the us
Why do all players look the same? Is there really that little difference between armorsets? Almost no variation at all. Are there no badass looking armor and weapons?
nice to have albion-like warfare and politics
Looks pretty cool. I'm not liking the guild system , might be a deal breaker for me.
ThroneNLiberty or Tarisland ?? whats ur pick Spid?
Maybe a throne and liberty vs Tarisland video
Yes pls!
oh nooo not the same dungeon system as in lost ark looks completly the same
The combat killed it for me, the fact it has a auto run to attack your mobs is horrible.
I think u can deactivate it, lots of games got that
@@droiid6547 "lot's of games" in all my years of playing mmo's and games it was the first game that wasnt a mobile/afk game that had that auto run.
Sure you can turn it off, but the core aspect of the combat is still designed as it were for being a afk game.
@@marcuspvxea auto moving to attack range is an old feature on mmos
@@droiid6547 It is not.
I want to play this game too :)
This looks fun tho
it you were pressed about tarisland being p2w and being deceived why the heck are you gonna play anything by NCsoft? they are probably the worse in regards to p2w and deceiving players.
"Probably become even massiver, if that's a word"...
Dude...
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Ncsoft loot table has always be bad. I mean badshitdawg!!
Right when you mentioned the guild system, it reminded me of my six years playing Eve online as a lowly worker for the elite socialite cliques in the massive corporations full of many thousands of players. It was a job, farming for years with no real benefit. Those at the top, just like IRL, got all the stuff lol. Hard pass on this game, no sweatshop mmo for me again.
The top guilds might get more stuff but everyone in a guild gets rewards from every activity and the guild should have a fair system of handing out loot so this isn’t really like eve online.
combat for me is crap.. but loved watching your vids and stream on twitch.. I remember you guys spend a couple of hours on a boss hehe but finally got it
Ahah yeah that day was a struggle
is the game P2W?
Watch my p2w review
why is it with todays gamer want everything fast and rush. let the flow of the game mature in its natural way over time. far to many mmo now is BORING because of this. to many cry of players demanding higher rate. next thing you know everyone is just up there and everything gets boring. pvp gets boring because literally everyone has the same thing and the supposedly fun pvp only last 1 seconds or whoever kills you first with 1 combo or 2 regardless of gears. no more grinding for things, but of course thats U.S player mentality. BDO is probably the only thing i can thing of that didnt just freebies and handed everything to their players. yeah bdo is a long grind but at least you work for it to get a gain. i think thats what keep the game alive and well played by many still. quit demanding for fast paste game play. who cares if drop rate is low let it be.
First!
this game's greatest limiting factor will be the p2w options when it finally comes to the west - from what i've heard literally everything needed to have max gear on day 1 is purchasable in the cash shop.
really hoping this isn't true but it is ncsoft after all.
Yea my p2w video going up soon
@@SpidMMOit’s not aggressive p2w. It’s kind of pay to fast. Korean whales do not prefer this game. Because money alone can not win and this is not an auto. Even whale need to grind in this game.
You can p2e sure, but you can't p2w from the shop. Only from other players.
You can p2w to get base epic gear but you can’t buy max level or the materials for it.
@@lamp6381 Yes you can :)
sad to say this is very waste of potential, this combat system is dogshit
you lost me at p2w...
Timed PvP sucks in a mmo. Just make a PvP server zzzz typical Asian care-bear mode. PvP should never be time limited option but a constant zzz
asian mmos are for carebears now?? yall can't even grind for a few hours before you cry about being 55 with a family of 6 working 80 hours a week bro
@@nikolowolokin who’s talking about grind? Only idiots grind 10 hours a day. We are talking about PvP? No full loot, timed PvP, toggle PvP. Floppy little shapeshifters emo af
man i have play so many mmorpgs and right now i am playing lotro for lord of the rings online, the quest writing and story plus the old mechanics of an mmrpg are my jam and butter! no mmo can keep me playing like lotro does, any other mmorpg feels generic and monetized to the max :(
eh, lets see how it goes. Im not particularly excited. I feel like its ... Meh. catagory. It could be fun, and give some things much needed. Such as Guild activities etc. But aside that, the general gameplay seems generic and similar to things like Elyon. But im optimistic. Lets give it a chance. If it succeeds, it means the Devs lived to their words and respect the gamers. If it fails then its not the game, but the devs lack of respect.