The Wrath of Achilles - The Fight between Agamemnon and the Great Warrior - The Trojan War Saga Ep16

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  • The Wrath of Achilles - The Fight between Agamemnon and the Great Warrior - The Trojan War Saga Ep16 - Greek Mythology in Comics - See U in History
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  • @NegiTaiMetal011
    @NegiTaiMetal011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    "Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilles." - The first line of the Iliad.
    Keep it up as I love these series. I also love to see The Odyssey as well.

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Always found Achilles an admirable example of masculinity and honor. He prefered to die young but known for the eternity rather than just passing away by natural causes and be forgotten by even his own descendants. His legacy would inspire some of the great generals that ever existed like Alexander the Great or Germanicus Caesar

    • @hangedman7547
      @hangedman7547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't know why but trojan war reminds me of mahabharat in hindu mythology, maybe they are in same cinematic universe

    • @Shourya899
      @Shourya899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hangedman7547 no not why u think in they are same in Trojan war all Greeks battle to win a regin of Troy and they are not family relation like Mahabharata

    • @vanshuppal2291
      @vanshuppal2291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nothing manlier than two men anyway! Him and Patroclus, lovers of course, and truly an example of masculinity

    • @crimsonthumos3905
      @crimsonthumos3905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@vanshuppal2291 I think you've been getting your mythology from cringy Tumblr blogs, because Achilles and Patroclus were never lovers in the Illiad. This was a revisionist speculation, not something that was ever actually said

    • @patmc8895
      @patmc8895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crimsonthumos3905 ah! tumblr blogs by Plato, Pindar, Aeschylus and Aeschines circa 5th and 4th century BCE

  • @slayer5571
    @slayer5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Was waiting for this ! Love it,brother! Would love to see the "Odyssey" and the "Aeneid" from you.

  • @charliemcternan8190
    @charliemcternan8190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The wrath and strength of the great Achilles this is going to be super crazy I can’t wait for this love it

    • @willisfernandes2366
      @willisfernandes2366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Both agamemon and achilles were responsible for angering Apollo.

  • @kockahonza
    @kockahonza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hi, great video! I was wondering whether you'd consider releasing some of the audio you make for the videos as a podcast? I like the way you narrate the stories but as beautiful as the pictures are I like to listen to stories as a rest from work and a big part of that is not looking at a screen and there's other cases when just audio is preferable and I'm sure there are others that'd listen in. That's all, keep up the great work!

  • @pseudomonas03
    @pseudomonas03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Can't wait for Diomedes and his great monent of glory!

    • @minatodroger7890
      @minatodroger7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My fave trojan war hero.

    • @tyrrant1374
      @tyrrant1374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My grandpa was named Diomedes in his honour so he has a special place for me

    • @michaeldepinto3562
      @michaeldepinto3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That Video was Awesome!

    • @ortros1
      @ortros1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which one? He had several of them through his life.

  • @KeepCalmandLoveClassics
    @KeepCalmandLoveClassics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Greek Saga : Achilles
    The Hindu Saga : Karna
    Warrior Legends 🙏🏻

  • @wallmaria3782
    @wallmaria3782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Can you start a series on slavic mythology?It would be super interesting!

  • @elijahtriton4547
    @elijahtriton4547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tnx as usual 😊 keep up the good work 👌, just when will the next episode come?

  • @michaeldepinto3562
    @michaeldepinto3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ohhh Man I've been waiting for this!!!!

  • @e4r0r4
    @e4r0r4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your videos sir. More MORE MOORE!!!!!!

  • @Argos-xb8ek
    @Argos-xb8ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Achilles is such a conflicting character. On one hand he was a great soldier fierce and powerful. On the other hand he gleefully killed untold numbers of people slaughter came easy to him.

  • @thomaslozano4135
    @thomaslozano4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Of all the warlords loved by the Gods, I hate him the most."
    Agamemnon, Troy (2004)

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Troy ruined Agamemnon's character. He was an incredibly powerful warrior who was on par with Achilles himself.

    • @mikeock4961
      @mikeock4961 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePaganSunhe was never on par with Achilles himself if that was the case he would’ve never begged him for forgiveness to fight in the war

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mikeock4961 He was on par with Achilles. And Agamemnon himself didn't beg. He sent Odysseus, Phoenix and Aias/Ajax. Plus, the problem was the gods kept interfering. Had Zeus not interfered to let the Trojans win for a while, they probably wouldn't have needed Achilles.

    • @mikeock4961
      @mikeock4961 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePaganSun your literally the only person with that opinion bro it’s stated multiple times throughout the Illiad that Achilles was the greatest warrior ever

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mikeock4961 No, I'm not the only one with that opinion. And in the Iliad, it's ALSO stated multiple times that the gods' interference changed the course of the war. Agamemnon, Big Aias and Diomedes were all stated to be superior to Hector. But it was Achilles' destiny to be the one to defeat him.

  • @davidneal3889
    @davidneal3889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You have to do the great duel between The Mighty Achilles and the Ethiopian king Memnon

  • @alicerivierre
    @alicerivierre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Greece 4 ever! 🇬🇷⚡

    • @inmagiasiderum5612
      @inmagiasiderum5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, I'm not even Greek-I'm Filipino-but the stories of ancient Greece was just *chef kiss*
      And now I'm studying Hellenistic Astrology lol. Indeed, Greece Forever!

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inmagiasiderum5612 Filipinos are the best from greece🇬🇷💙🇵🇭

    • @inmagiasiderum5612
      @inmagiasiderum5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wankawanka3053 σε ευχαριστώ πολύ 🇬🇷❤️🇵🇭

  • @spiritbond8
    @spiritbond8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The priest id called Chryses, not his daughter, she is only ever referred to as Chyseid (of Chryses i.e. his daughter )

  • @vittoriogirolimetto6083
    @vittoriogirolimetto6083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Will you also make the "Aeneid"? Hi from Italy 😊

  • @MustafaSadeer
    @MustafaSadeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel is amazing

  • @GargantuanMedia
    @GargantuanMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Art for this looks very good. Very talented artists.

  • @arliesam217
    @arliesam217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    am enjoying this series

  • @galakkun6071
    @galakkun6071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh i know whats going to happen next. Achilles wrath is legendary 😍 and brutal 😬

  • @ThePaganSun
    @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will you do Agamemnon's aristeia?!! Agamemnon was a badass!!

  • @odinthewise6773
    @odinthewise6773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you talk about tyr next pls

  • @zouzamhangluah2773
    @zouzamhangluah2773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After the trojan war..,the Mahabharata war please..,

  • @stanley12pis
    @stanley12pis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro please more so good

  • @ThePaganSun
    @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also the women weren't called war _prey,_ they were war _prizes._

  • @chefy807
    @chefy807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Deidamia is a "girlfriend" but you won't give a label to Briseis?

  • @MrVee24
    @MrVee24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Artwork and mythology - happy :)

  • @mirastheory
    @mirastheory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the videos and images you use, where do you take them..can you help me..please? god bless ..

  • @aubreyyoung6664
    @aubreyyoung6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is gonna be great I’m excited

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video 👍🏻

  • @cutypie878
    @cutypie878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ancient gods of the past cam be read ,in Mahabharata and Anunnaki books ,also book of Enoch.

  • @sharvaridesai1956
    @sharvaridesai1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do like Achilles 💚🙌🏻

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What would Hades think of Hela ?

    • @jessnalulila5709
      @jessnalulila5709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean the daughter of Loki?

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessnalulila5709 Yes.

    • @haroldcruz8550
      @haroldcruz8550 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hades is very much content with Persephone.

    • @WildMen4444
      @WildMen4444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They'd probably just hang out and talk about the mortals in Their care. Maybe sip some absinthe while listening to goth music while Persephone is rocking out in the garden in front of Them

  • @yrmarosachiara1812
    @yrmarosachiara1812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tatakae. 2 Erens in the beginning.

  • @babyyodachelsea7034
    @babyyodachelsea7034 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤. Achilles can do no wrong😊

  • @invisible7824
    @invisible7824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can there be multiple gods for one thing?

    • @eddiesid1149
      @eddiesid1149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes

    • @invisible7824
      @invisible7824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eddiesid1149 thanks.

    • @e4r0r4
      @e4r0r4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🎼 There can only be one, HIGHLANDER 🎼

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, if that thing had multiple uses or multiple aspects like war. The brutal kind was under the dominion of Ares but the tactics and strategy were under the dominion of Athena.

  • @seunfatade3299
    @seunfatade3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @orin331
    @orin331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Briseis, Criseis... Driseis?!

  • @piuma_bianca
    @piuma_bianca ปีที่แล้ว

    Music?

  • @sterlingforbes3872
    @sterlingforbes3872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nah, this is not correct as I don't recall Brad Pitt doing a lot of these things. And Hollywood always gets it right!

  • @urielseuthes7484
    @urielseuthes7484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    please check it out because its widespread in western literature. "The greeks besieged Troy". No they did not. The achaians besieged Ilion. They did not besiege themselves. Troy as you call it is part of the hellenc world. By no means my comment is to provoke you.

    • @bigfrazier86
      @bigfrazier86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We know they are both Greeks, saying Greeks besieged Troy doesn’t mean Troy isn’t Greek. But troy is not located in Greece. It’s in modern day turkey. Hence why they said Greeks

    • @urielseuthes7484
      @urielseuthes7484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigfrazier86 nope. modern day greece and modern day turkey are, "modern" entities. The hellenic world icludes both, west and east of the egean sea. As many other areas.Troy is presented as non greeks same as the macedonians.

    • @JakeConrad666
      @JakeConrad666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is clear from the story and from archeological evidence that the people of "Troy" were not Greeks. Homer used the war as a literary device to instill nationalistic and ethnic pride. This can only work if the people of Troy were not greeks. Plus many of Troys allies were what the greeks considered to be barbarians (foreigners). The Amazons and Lycians come to my mind. As for the actual people who inhabited what we call Troy, it would seem that they were a city state belonging to the Hittite empire, not greeks at all.

    • @urielseuthes7484
      @urielseuthes7484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JakeConrad666 lol. no. 100% greek. According to homer. he never say they are barbarians, trojans have the same gods, same cultures etc. No greek king would alow a barbarian at his table. lol

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @urielseuthes7484 Trojans were not Greeks! Homer never calls them Greeks! _He never even calls the Greeks by that word lol!_ In the Bronze Age, they were part of the Arzawa coalition and were under Hittite rule. And lol...that they worshipped the same gods means nothing. In ancient times, they believed they all worshipped the same gods under different names. In the Iliad, the gods even go to a sacrifice in Ethiopia! The Iliad was told and later written by a Greek so of course the gods would be Greek. And don't confuse Bronze Age Greece with Classical Greece.

  • @docvaliant721
    @docvaliant721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad Achilles is depicted as blonde and blue eyed like he is described.

  • @nothinghereligma3363
    @nothinghereligma3363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why fight with a cheater like Achilles?

  • @jendersonmohammed443
    @jendersonmohammed443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your pride almost destroyed the Achaean army Agamemnon

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Achilles' rage is what is blamed.

  • @BeingAndHappenings
    @BeingAndHappenings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💛🧡💛🧡

  • @tjanderson5892
    @tjanderson5892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But in actuality none of this ever took place correct? Troy, Agamemnon, Achilles, Hector, and Helen of Troy. The Trojan horse and Hector killing Achilles boyfriend is all an entirely made up conflict? I was told it was all false earlier this yr. My entire life I had believed the war, Helen, and even the wooden trophy horse was likely based off a similar real event. Many elements changed and evolving over centuries to favor whoever. But I was told all of it was scrap, no more real than the Odyssey lol. I just can’t except it lol

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The _war_ itself is believed to have happened since there is archeaological evidence of a war in Troy in Turkey but the _cause and those involved_ are what's up for debate. People don't believe it happened exactly as depicted in Homer's Iliad.

    • @jimnewt2138
      @jimnewt2138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont believe Holywood bias Achilles wasnt gay that is what the lgbtq wants you to believe sick sit

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:51 Hi Athena. I love you ! I love you ! I love YOU ! 😍

    • @e4r0r4
      @e4r0r4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Athena ran away with Hercules again Savage. Sorry dude.

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@e4r0r4 Did you hear ? She came back to me.

    • @e4r0r4
      @e4r0r4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@savagedarksider5934 How did you achieve this great feat of excellence?

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@e4r0r4 I told her if I could take her to A location she never been to she'll not only come back but make love to me so I took her,Persephone,Aphrodite,Poseidon,apollo,And Zeus to Asgard.

    • @e4r0r4
      @e4r0r4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@savagedarksider5934 Where was Hades? I can't imagine him doing well, knowing persephone was out without him.
      It's going to big trouble for you if Demeter thinks you are kidnapping her daughter Persephone. Demeter has already had to come to terms with only seeing Seph for half the year, due to Hades.

  • @milaandersson6808
    @milaandersson6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I find it so disgusting how they talk of their captured woman as prizes. And to think that they were probably still privileged because of their beauty.
    Thank god i dont live there

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Please don't modernize this🙄

    • @basicallytrqsh
      @basicallytrqsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wankawanka3053 theres no reason not to modernize this. The point in learning history is so we learn from the actions of the people from the past (essentially learning from other people’s mistakes). One obvious mistake is holding someone captive, another is objectifying women. Not modernizing is essentially stating that you refuse to acknowledge the problems from the past and you aren’t against making similar mistakes.

    • @mercenery1232
      @mercenery1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The beautiful women and strong men were great trophy for slavery. Don't just simp for women man.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@basicallytrqsh if you see no problem modernizing history then don't ever read anything about antiquity or the middle ages or even 20th century you should grow a pair and move on

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@basicallytrqsh why don't you go and complain about ancient people somewhere else then maybe twitter since you seem like a very good user 🤣

  • @bhavyar2986
    @bhavyar2986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand why Thetis wanted Zeus to help Trojans?..
    Achilies sided with Greeks then why help trojans?

    • @JakeConrad666
      @JakeConrad666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She didn't want Zeus to necessarily help Troy but rather to punish the Greeks. Achilles declared he wouldn't fight and that the Greeks couldn't win without him. His mother wanted to make sure on that promise and asked Zeus to make the Greeks weaker. They would be forced to beg forgiveness from Achilles.

    • @bhavyar2986
      @bhavyar2986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JakeConrad666 i get it now. Thanks

    • @haroldcruz8550
      @haroldcruz8550 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just to punish Agamemnon .

  • @Tyleya
    @Tyleya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    **Red from OSP has entered the chat**

  • @martinmilenkov4600
    @martinmilenkov4600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Achilles great Thracian warrior

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @GothPaoki
    @GothPaoki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Such a shame the Troy series was so garbage. Would love an accurate depiction of a character like Achilles being shown on tv and fleshed put during the course of a series. Instead we got a pc woke version of him.

    • @aykhongphailong9603
      @aykhongphailong9603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With all the ‘woke’ and ‘diversity’ out there, I doubt we will have any thing decent in the near future

  • @BlaecOleander
    @BlaecOleander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow these are some really horrible people. Now I remember why I ragequit The Iliad

  • @hectoraymo9963
    @hectoraymo9963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bologne!

  • @consul_pun
    @consul_pun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And another one AVE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥰⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️🗡🗡🗡⚔️🗡🗡

  • @The_Thalassian
    @The_Thalassian ปีที่แล้ว

    Mi so proud of mi contis hestory!
    Ehh... anyone got a few euro?

  • @morrismurimi3965
    @morrismurimi3965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First

  • @deathstroke2697
    @deathstroke2697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is my black Achilles?

  • @luna39900
    @luna39900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Menstrals ha!

  • @adamirishconundrum851
    @adamirishconundrum851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The trojan war never happened.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hittite records disagree with you

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It did happen. What's up for debate is how closely did it happen to events in the Iliad and Epic Cycle.

  • @taraishot100
    @taraishot100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should do some Māori mythology