Great job. I’m not a metal expert. Just cedar and asphalt. Seems simple on a gable building with no protrusions. Most houses have skylights, valleys and mechanical. Would like to see a video of more complex job.
I did see a video to where one installer actually taped the top of the drip edge it made a little bit of sense and didn't take too much extra time called insurance
In this video we install a standing seam metal roof on my pole barn. The panel profile we used is SSR 450 SL and the color is burnished slate. This was our first metal roof using this portable roll former and this panel profile. If you have any questions or suggestions drop them in the comments. Also, the links below are to videos that discuss the installation of valley flashing, kick out side wall flashing, and installing a metal roof on a bay window if you’re interested. Roof Layout and Installation of Metal Valley Flashing with a Slope Transition on Standing Seam Metal th-cam.com/video/rIB7mgjFSL8/w-d-xo.html How to Make Kickout Flashing With Standing Seam Metal Roofing: Pole Building Side Wall Flashing th-cam.com/video/NUXzvq3d4QQ/w-d-xo.html How to Install a Standing Seam Metal Roof on a Bay Window th-cam.com/video/9nkPbgNjFTM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing. Looks great and metal roof is my favorite type of roofing. Have you done any other metal roof on a house that has valleys and skylights? Just curious how hard that would be. I had a project but couldn’t find any bids lower than $50K so the homeowner decided to go with shingle roof.
Why do you use that type of rake trim vs rake trim that requires z bar and butter tape? Seems water could splash up and over the high rib. I do metal roofing for a living and have learned alot watching your videos.
Glad you liked the videos. This rake is very easy to install as it’s one piece. That’s why I like it. I think some water could splash up and get behind there but very little. If water does get behind, there is a few inches of metal with an upward hem that acts as a small gutter that allows the water to drain away.
Thx for the vid. But i got a few questions. Wouldnt the screws at the top restruct the movement? Also, you know if solar panels being installed on these wouod be a problem? Now that i see how theyre installed, seems solar panel clips, clipping onto the ridges might restrict movement. Hmm.
The screws at the top do not restrict movement, because that is the only spot where they’re truly fastened through the panel as the clips hold it down, but they allow it to slide down, so as a panel expands a grows downward. I’m not sure about solar panel installation however i’m sure there’s ways to do it that won’t affect the expansion and contraction of the metal.
Thanks. I’m not sure of the name of that rake piece specifically. I purchased my metal from Indiana Metal. Below is a link to more information about this system. sheffieldmetals.com/learning-center/profile/smi-1-5-snaplock-450-sl/
What are the clips? How can I install standing seam without the special cutting machine, tool to bend the ends, special electric cutting tool, tool you all used to roll/bend the edge after cut, etc.?
You actually want your starter on top on your inlay with a metal roof unless you go with a strip of under lay first and then paper over the starter because you shouldn’t have metal in wood contact good job guys
Thanks. There is an art to installation if you have a complicated roof so that costs more. Also, you need to use a heavier gauge for standing seam and there is a lot of specialized trim pieces to buy. There’s also a little of, they charge more because they can as not everyone has the tools and know how. To roll form standing seam costs a little more than exposed fastener but not significantly more. You just buy a coil and pay per sqft.
The clips come from a company in logansport, Indiana. However, each different profile might have a different clip style. Contact the manufacturer of your roll former or metal that you bought.
never seen that F channel (piece of fascia w/channel) I like it. I guess the roofing being bent in it will hold it down? Don't see it on my suppliers list, Darn it.
Do not use that detail!! It is not smacna approved to counter astm E1592 negative design pressures. The same problem at the ridge vent, as well as the top of panel drag load screws are not installed correctly. This roof is NOT properly installed to receive solar panels or snow retention. As an independent consultant I continue to see these regional rollformers make these mistakes over and over. Everytime one of these roofs fails it is very easy to assign liability to this install/rollform, as none of this roof is per any industry testing. This install also violates every aspect of ASTM 330 and 331 for water and air infiltration.
curious why you bought the ntm, compared to others? have been installing on and off the last 30 years, was thinking about purchasing a unit but unclear which one to choose. Whats your perspective ? thanks in advance BB
We like their customer service support, how easy it is to change out dies to run different profiles, and the large number of different profiles you can choose from. We also got a good deal through one of their suppliers that wanted to move this specific machine. We went with the SSR Multipro Jr as it’s a more affordable model.
Most everyone buys New Tech. They usually much cheaper than all the others. You are getting what you pay for though! If you are going to do high volume like a supplier buy Zimmerman!
Please buy a shlebach there out of Georgia they are a very good machine with pre-cut and all computerized. You don’t have to have a stand with a trigger on it. It has its own tape measure. It is dead on the money and been a very good looking panel.
I def cant justify the $45K $60K price of not doing this myself. I priced materials for a 90ftx40ft roof...and it seemed to come out to less than $10K. Maybe im wrong but...panels were like $50 each. Granted, these were not the ones that used the clips, but instead they had the nail holes. But even adding $2.5K or $5K more for the type using clips, i think my boys could get the roof done in 2 days. Id pay them $500 for the 2 days...and im only at $17.5K. Labor always sets us back...as investors. 😅...but i understand.
Yeah, the labor is the most expensive part of getting a metal roof put on. Sometimes it can get complicated when there’s a lot of valleys, slope transitions, and things like that. However, if you just have a straight gable roof it’s not that bad.
Number one clips absolutely suck. They do not hold the metal down there and screwed 12 inches on center with a nail flange plus use 24 gauge metal. I do it every day. I’m not just trying to be a dumbass in the comments, but please tear off shingles.
Thanks for the video and trim details. Can you please tell me where you found the vent screen/baffle material you used? It looks perfect for my application but am having a hard time sourcing it. Thanks in advance.
By far one of the best videos, easy to follow, thanks for showing how it's done guys, going to DIY my roof in the next few weeks or so!
You’re welcome and let me know how it goes.
I know it is kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to stream new series online ?
@Zane Roy i watch on flixzone. Just google for it =)
@Kamdyn Frederick Yup, I have been using FlixZone for since march myself :)
@Kamdyn Frederick thanks, signed up and it seems to work :D Appreciate it !
I really like the way you guys dispose of your clippings into the little garbage can 👍
Thanks
Wow! Great explanation and visuals about the basics of a standing seam metal!
Great job. I’m not a metal expert. Just cedar and asphalt. Seems simple on a gable building with no protrusions. Most houses have skylights, valleys and mechanical. Would like to see a video of more complex job.
Well you’re on luck. Here is the video from my house…
th-cam.com/video/rIB7mgjFSL8/w-d-xo.html
@@HowtoHacks thank you
I did see a video to where one installer actually taped the top of the drip edge it made a little bit of sense and didn't take too much extra time called insurance
Best video on metal roof!
Great explanation of everything involved. Thanks for sharing
You’re welcome
In this video we install a standing seam metal roof on my pole barn. The panel profile we used is SSR 450 SL and the color is burnished slate. This was our first metal roof using this portable roll former and this panel profile. If you have any questions or suggestions drop them in the comments. Also, the links below are to videos that discuss the installation of valley flashing, kick out side wall flashing, and installing a metal roof on a bay window if you’re interested. Roof Layout and Installation of Metal Valley Flashing with a Slope Transition on Standing Seam Metal th-cam.com/video/rIB7mgjFSL8/w-d-xo.html How to Make Kickout Flashing With Standing Seam Metal Roofing: Pole Building Side Wall Flashing th-cam.com/video/NUXzvq3d4QQ/w-d-xo.html How to Install a Standing Seam Metal Roof on a Bay Window th-cam.com/video/9nkPbgNjFTM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing. Looks great and metal roof is my favorite type of roofing. Have you done any other metal roof on a house that has valleys and skylights? Just curious how hard that would be. I had a project but couldn’t find any bids lower than $50K so the homeowner decided to go with shingle roof.
I’m just starting to put a metal roof on my house and it has some complicated valleys. I’ll record it and post most likely.
Just got the video uploaded of the metal valley installation if you’re interested.
th-cam.com/video/rIB7mgjFSL8/w-d-xo.html
Why do you use that type of rake trim vs rake trim that requires z bar and butter tape? Seems water could splash up and over the high rib. I do metal roofing for a living and have learned alot watching your videos.
Glad you liked the videos. This rake is very easy to install as it’s one piece. That’s why I like it. I think some water could splash up and get behind there but very little. If water does get behind, there is a few inches of metal with an upward hem that acts as a small gutter that allows the water to drain away.
Thx for the vid. But i got a few questions. Wouldnt the screws at the top restruct the movement? Also, you know if solar panels being installed on these wouod be a problem? Now that i see how theyre installed, seems solar panel clips, clipping onto the ridges might restrict movement. Hmm.
The screws at the top do not restrict movement, because that is the only spot where they’re truly fastened through the panel as the clips hold it down, but they allow it to slide down, so as a panel expands a grows downward. I’m not sure about solar panel installation however i’m sure there’s ways to do it that won’t affect the expansion and contraction of the metal.
Great video! Definitely pro’s!! I Would like to know where do you buy you gable trim and which profile it is!? Thankss
Thanks. I’m not sure of the name of that rake piece specifically. I purchased my metal from Indiana Metal. Below is a link to more information about this system.
sheffieldmetals.com/learning-center/profile/smi-1-5-snaplock-450-sl/
What are the clips? How can I install standing seam without the special cutting machine, tool to bend the ends, special electric cutting tool, tool you all used to roll/bend the edge after cut, etc.?
You need the tools. Some places may have these tools for rent. These clips a specifically designed for this metal roof panel profile.
Interesting ridge vent, seems less air restrictive than others with metal dam/baffle but how does it do with blowing snow/rain?
So far so good. It’s been over a year
Great work! What is the roller tool called that bends up the cut side edge on the cut panels?
Thanks. Below is a link to the tool.
amzn.to/35gsKMw
You actually want your starter on top on your inlay with a metal roof unless you go with a strip of under lay first and then paper over the starter because you shouldn’t have metal in wood contact good job guys
You guys make this look very easy.....why do Standing seam roofs cost 2-3 times more?
Thanks. There is an art to installation if you have a complicated roof so that costs more. Also, you need to use a heavier gauge for standing seam and there is a lot of specialized trim pieces to buy. There’s also a little of, they charge more because they can as not everyone has the tools and know how. To roll form standing seam costs a little more than exposed fastener but not significantly more. You just buy a coil and pay per sqft.
Looks good !!
Thanks
What clips are you using?
And where did you buy them?
Thanks in advance
The clips come from a company in logansport, Indiana. However, each different profile might have a different clip style. Contact the manufacturer of your roll former or metal that you bought.
never seen that F channel (piece of fascia w/channel) I like it. I guess the roofing being bent in it will hold it down? Don't see it on my suppliers list, Darn it.
Ask for a custom piece. If they have a CNC break they should be able to make it.
Do not use that detail!! It is not smacna approved to counter astm E1592 negative design pressures. The same problem at the ridge vent, as well as the top of panel drag load screws are not installed correctly. This roof is NOT properly installed to receive solar panels or snow retention. As an independent consultant I continue to see these regional rollformers make these mistakes over and over. Everytime one of these roofs fails it is very easy to assign liability to this install/rollform, as none of this roof is per any industry testing. This install also violates every aspect of ASTM 330 and 331 for water and air infiltration.
curious why you bought the ntm, compared to others? have been installing on and off the last 30 years, was thinking about purchasing a unit but unclear which one to choose. Whats your perspective ? thanks in advance BB
We like their customer service support, how easy it is to change out dies to run different profiles, and the large number of different profiles you can choose from. We also got a good deal through one of their suppliers that wanted to move this specific machine. We went with the SSR Multipro Jr as it’s a more affordable model.
Most everyone buys New Tech. They usually much cheaper than all the others. You are getting what you pay for though! If you are going to do high volume like a supplier buy Zimmerman!
Please buy a shlebach there out of Georgia they are a very good machine with pre-cut and all computerized. You don’t have to have a stand with a trigger on it. It has its own tape measure. It is dead on the money and been a very good looking panel.
Good job
Thanks
What’s the cost for this profile machine?
It cost around $30k
ВОПРОС? КАК ОТДЕЛАТЬ (ОБОЙТИ) ОКНО ВЕЛЮКС НА КЛИК ФАЛЬЦЕ?
How much u pay for the machine
$26k
Ok👍
ok
I def cant justify the $45K $60K price of not doing this myself. I priced materials for a 90ftx40ft roof...and it seemed to come out to less than $10K. Maybe im wrong but...panels were like $50 each. Granted, these were not the ones that used the clips, but instead they had the nail holes. But even adding $2.5K or $5K more for the type using clips, i think my boys could get the roof done in 2 days. Id pay them $500 for the 2 days...and im only at $17.5K. Labor always sets us back...as investors. 😅...but i understand.
Yeah, the labor is the most expensive part of getting a metal roof put on. Sometimes it can get complicated when there’s a lot of valleys, slope transitions, and things like that. However, if you just have a straight gable roof it’s not that bad.
@@HowtoHacks yes, my roof is simple. Thank God. Thx for the reply.
Wind speed
I looked in the book and I couldn’t find any wind speed rating. However, once it is clicked together you cannot pull them apart by hand.
Number one clips absolutely suck. They do not hold the metal down there and screwed 12 inches on center with a nail flange plus use 24 gauge metal. I do it every day. I’m not just trying to be a dumbass in the comments, but please tear off shingles.
Standing seam on a barn lol
We already had the machine with that profile so it cost me about the same as exposed fastener.
Thanks for the video and trim details. Can you please tell me where you found the vent screen/baffle material you used? It looks perfect for my application but am having a hard time sourcing it.
Thanks in advance.
I believe this is where I got it…
www.bestmaterials.com/PDF_Files/profile-vent-cross-reference.pdf