To everyone wondering why I didn't simply stitch the belt back together: I didn't know you could. I looked high and low on videos on round baler belts and found absolutely nothing on repairing or replacing. SO it was a total shot in the dark. Also why the arrow may be going the wrong way. The belt had no instructions, I had no manual for a borrowed baler, the owner hadn't replaced any since buying it (so he wouldn't know either). I did the only thing I could think of. But, should he break another (it will happen) I'll let him know he can repair them that way :)
The arrow goes in the direction the belt travels though the baler. Also, the dealer has a lacing tool to put new splices on an old belt and patch in a 2 foot chunk to replace the broken section. However, your New Holland dealer probably doesn't have belt that narrow. Also, the arrow is going the correct direction
Farm girl you have a wonderful sense of humor 😆 and very creative with the sound effects 👍 you should get it touch with the farmers wife Meredith Bernard she and her husband Lawrence had trouble with there round bailer and had to replace the belts I am sure that you and Meredith might even like each other because you both make great videos that I enjoy very much 😁 thanks for sharing 👍
Suzanne I have found that when you Barrow things they always break down.!!!! And i have found that big round bailer s don't like short hay . And you can get that belt resized .
That was nice of you to replace that belt. If it was in as bad of shape as the other one you showed, I think your neighbor should kick in a few bucks towards what you spent :)
Suzanne, Enjoyed the video. You are right ,I have washed numerous round balers and that job can be a pain. You were saying the belts couldn’t be repaired but they can . I repair quite a few each season. Sometimes though if they are damaged in several spots then it is better to replace them. Stay safe 🤗
I rarely borrow things but when I do they are returned clean and as you said in the same or better condition than when I got it. I was freezing watching you power wash it, for some reason I'm just not in winter form yet, my bloods too thin! Take care!
@@This1LifeWeLive I'm glad to hear that! Now if our Michigan weather witches can properly guess when its going to rain, they said 3 days for the last 8 down here in metro Detroit, its actually rained 7 out of 8 and is raining now as it has been all day ( they showed 10% chance at 4:00am this morning )
it been in the low 20's her for over a month, this past weekend it was 60mph winds all weekend, shit was flying. but hay, that winter here, a few more weeks and we will be in the 25 to 30 below for 2 months then into 40 plus below
I had a round baler just like that. I fixed broken belts and replaced the bearings on end of the rollers so many times that I finally bought a John Deere round baler. The Gehl baler I had was a POS, but I did get $500 for it when I sold it. The guy I sold it to had one just like and wanted a backup just in case his broke. That belt you broke could have been fixed, unless it was rotten. I still have the tool you use to put those wire hooks in the end of the belt. The belts in my JD baler have alligator lacing.
You can fix that old belt with a spliceing tool and new lacing I have an older version of that bailer shoup is a good place to buy part those belts aren't as bad to spilce has it looks
I borrowed a neighbor's lawnmower once, pushed it across the street to my front yard, started it, walked about ten feet when one of the front wheels broke off. I hadn't had it long enough to do any damage to it but as it rolled okay when I borrowed it I couldn't return it until I bought a new wheel and installed it. Sometimes having integrity is frustrating 😂 I was not happy about having to spend money and repair the wheel but I couldn't return it broken since it rolled ok before I rolled out across the street. Clearly though it was ready to break when I borrowed it.
I'm on the fence on that one. On one hand, you are right. If a part is already bad, the owner would have to buy it anyway. But on the other hand, misuse can cause part failure. If I lent out my haybine, and the borrower hit a rock and snapped it, I certainly would hope he would buy a new one and repair it, or at least buy the part and let ME repair it. The belt was bad, but most likely my hay crop wasn't well suited to that style baler and caused the break. So I believe it's only fair for me to pay for it.
@@This1LifeWeLive they are made to bale any hay, corn stocks, straw, you can clearly see the belts are all finished, long over do for replacment, there know use repairing them, out with them all and in with new, that is why it wouldnt roll, the belts are all streached out. finished.. when they are stretched out past adjustment the belt pile up in the rollers sucking down the power until one by one the brake..
Loaned my baler twice,broke both times.I don`t know just seems to work that way.I loaned out my haybine,same thing broken reel.Good job on the repairs,you kids are good neighbors.
Personally, that's why I'd much rather do the job directly than loan out equipment. If someone needs something I'm happy to do it for them, or with them :) Some things we DO loan out, but not our major equipment :)
The triangle (Arrow) on the belt indicates the direction of travel of the belt and I am pretty sure you got it on backwards. CHECK IT before you return it. Know that you know what you are doing, it shouldn't be a big deal to pull it out and run it the other way.
you are so right, anything with an arrow on it, tells you the direction it turns and thats how you install it, it would be like changing a skill saw blade and not looking at the arrow on the blade and checker witch way the shaft on the saw turns an put the blade on with the arrow facing the way tthe shaft turn, how many i have seen people trying to cut with a saw with the blade on back ass, its funy as hell to watch and say nothing, until they complain, the saw crap
Very informative. No LOUD music required. Glad the arrow is going the correct direction. Well done. You have doubled the value of that machine. Safety from closing/dropping usually consists of devices that wrap around the exposed portion of the hydraulic Cylinder(s). Not to be ignored. Like you I return rarely borrowed items in better condition than I received them. Just had to buy a friend a new pole saw. Shit happens.
Some more FYI lol. I never power wash my round Baler. I just take a leaf blower and air compressor and blow everything out real good. I was always told not to power wash them but I’m not sure if that’s correct, I just know it’s worked well for me. Great video though
Normally I would have, problem was it was CAKED with dirt and grass that had just rained and turned to mud . . . no way it was gonna come out with just air :(
Just going to throw this out there. Flat belts can be re-laced, and this is nothing new, it goes back to steam power days as far as I know. Not all flat belts had lacing, seems like I recall some as having a diagonal seam. Anyway, I just had one of the thrower belts on my New Holland 575 baler re-laced this past summer. While hooking up a wagon, I noticed the center part of the lacing pulling apart. The hooks had worn through, so the belt was coming apart. Our local Case/IH dealer who until recently had been the oldest NH dealer in Wisconsin, have what is needed to do this. I removed all the old hooks from the belt, my Father took it down and had them fix it. I should have went so I could see how it was done, but I am always chasing my tail. They did not remove any material from the belt edge, just installed the new lacing and sent along the plastic covered cable to put it together with. Went back together fine, and worked OK the rest of the season.
I was kinda surprised you replaced the belt after it was obvious the belt was gone when you borrowed it, you're a decent person though and you did what was probably right, and hell, at least the baler should be ready to use if you have to, great video
We had one of those bailers years ago and they ate belts and bearings bad design on a good note we probably made 10,000 bails with it 🍻 it is still sitting in the retired line of old junk
The first round baler I had was a 1600 GEHL. It was new. That actually looks like a pretty good baler. If you can get belts for $200? That's cheap. He should just replace the belts and get going. But, I've repaired worse lookin belts, js. In certain conditions, it was really hard to get a bale started with mine. Slick, dry hay tends to bunch up in front of those balers, then go in, in wads. So it doesn't tie together and roll smoothly. The belt just fell off the side(end) of the bale (as it crumbled), then got caught (pinched) by another belt and the splice was pulled out. You're a sweetheart of a neighbor, Suzanne. People usually bring MY machinery home when I'm not here, and I get to discover the issues, the day I need to use it😒.
@@This1LifeWeLive Sorry I didn't see your reply. We're in the middle of a major ICE STORM here in OK. NO electricity at my house for 16 hrs and it's not looking good. I'm living in the SOUTH for God sakes. 1 1/2 inches of ice in OCTOBER!!! Not even 10 hrs N of the GULF of MEXICO. 😳 THANKS, for warming up this dreary day, sweetheart, with memories of GEHL.🌝🌚🦋
I had a Heston 5510 round baler it had 10 belts at $100 a piece about ten years ago. I worked at WCCO for 4 years 2 years while going to college. Oh and they do make different kinds of treads on the belts smooth belts don't grab and roll shit, I changed out smother Heston belts to a coarse tread belt to grab the fine grass and it also worked with straw and alfalfa.
have you considered haveing someone custum round bail your hay for you. we have a small cattle farm and bail our own hay and custum bail for two other farmers. but I often tell my dad that by the time you figure all of the money, equipment, fuel, and time we have in bailing our own hay I think we would be money ahead to buy it from someone. I feel you pain with break downs on our first field of second cut we almost cough our moco on fire when a gear box went out. a new john deere gear box will be 3500-4000. we haven't fixed it yet it is going to be a winter project. and that was the second major break this year on it.
The neighbors all had theirs custom cut (no one's hay cutter was working this summer). We sell squares as they garner a higher profit than rounds. $8+ a bale vs. $100 a round. That's roughly a $60 loss per round, and I'm not sure what the market is for $100 rounds. Most people buy them because they are cheaper (most sell around $50 for a 4x5 round). If these bales were roughly 900 lbs, that's about 20 bale at 50lbs each.
Hi 👋 I'll probably never do that but still learned something New , your you tube friend that has a sense of humor or humour ? 😉 see you next time ✌✌🙏👍❤
Wish I'd have know you were having difficulty finding information on round baler belt repair. I'd of given you the info you needed to fix it. I've got a splice crimper as I repair all our belts.
I’ve round baled plenty of wheat straw that’s been put through a rotor combine........, that stuff is like baling flower. Now I’m not saying that that baler can bale that short grass but they should do it with no issues. Those belts are extremely far spaced out. It’s like it’s missing a couple belts. Between that and I’d bet them belts are stretched like you wouldn’t believe really put you at a disadvantage.
WCCO Wahpeton canvas company Wahpeton ND is where I'm from and they make all kinds of canvas including draper heads and swathers. If you can't find the locks a piece of angle iron cut to length can be placed on cylinder rod when extended, cylinder can't close. Put a little pressure on it to hold in place.
Lol now u done it😉things like that happens my boss had a problem with his some of the net got stuck in the gear box and messed up the seal...then friend of mine had the belt break to
Lol... I was just talking to a farmer near me who uses deere small roll alfalfa.... smallest I ever seen. I was riding my little harley so I stopped to take some pictures. He thought I was broke down we got to talking. He went to school with father and uncles. I just love talking to farmers
As has probably already been said the arrow is direction of rotation, like Wes I prefer to blast it with air to clean so it doesn't risk getting water in a bearing and then having it sitting there for several months to rust or freeze if I do wash it I usually do so the day before I first use it. Looking as the state of the other belts my guess is they will be replacing the others next season as well saying that though we did 25,000 on our last set though we replaced the endless with stitched if these last as long we will be happy though other than price I find belts nicer and easier to change than pickup times they're like vampires and always draw blood.
Wouldn't feel bad dad has been farming for nearly 70 years and helping for near 80 and he hadn't got a clue how to slacken ours off and on ours it's simple as it just has a lever that slides a stop out so it's just a case of picking it up enough to slide the bolt out and drop it down that it takes about 5 minutes to change the belt out 10 if I'm being fussy about the positioning or the old one has wrapped around something.
A JD 459 silage special offers replacement pins to connect the belts.....That have ridges and valleys to mate with the splice.... Fairely easy to install, but let them wear almost thru and trouble will ensue...... We swapped a strip till planter rig for a 459 silage special... and the owner hadn't changed the pins... We had to take a dremel tool with a small cut off wheel and cut in between each link on the splice,,,,, took every pack of wheels in Walmart and about 1 hour per splice.....We can bale short fine material but it doesn't want to unroll when we Re-baale,,,,, cut the Net Wrap and it becomes what you had,,,,,, a pile
Releasing tension on belts is different with each brand. Newer ones are much easier. I have a claas and can release pressure on belts from the ground in seconds. Usually the way to bale fine hay with round balers is big rolls and drive fast and force the hay in to make bales as fast as possible or the hay crumbles to nothing.
@jaredtomochak4946 if your baler has a hydraulic gate lock valve lock it and then use tractor hydraulics to release belt tension... usually it's same way as raising the gate
I’m like you I hate to borrow stuff for just that reason.. as a responsible person your obligated to repair it.. but it sucks maybe your neighbor will at least split the cost ? I would just mention that you had to replace the belt and see if they will help with the cost
not a hope in hell, they would never lend it out if it was in good shap, ppl only lend stuff to ppl that dont know better that it is ready to blow a part
Hi you can repair the belts by splicing a 1meter piece in to old belt but as belts are old you need to measure Belts . All so by putting new on that will be to tight. Go luck
Round Balers seem to be the way most farmers like to bale for themselves, since storage could just be out in a field and in a row. Also Cows and other farm animals seem OK with it. Rule of thumb - The less moving parts the better, for things to break in a baler.
Yep replacing belts are fun especially when there is a pattern long short belts on mine. Yours seemed to be all the same. The other part of the process was the lacing getting the pin looped and fed back in on itself....I am old and have not much finger grip left or feeling in my hands. You did a great job from what I saw. 👍
There's no way I would have barrowed that baler in the condition its in. Looks like every belt on it is about to pull apart and to replace them would cost more than the whole baler is worth. Although, I would have respliced it back together before I purchased a new belt. I'd say this is a parts baler at best. Also not a fan of washing a baler out with water, especially not high pressure, you just put water right into the bearings. Always clean a baler out with air to keep from damaging bearings. A leaf blower works great for that.
You’re a great neighbor but you could have fixed the old belt for about 20$. You have to relace the old belt. A couple inches different length won’t matter Because the all stretch over time. Just some FYI from a round bale user in Kentucky. Remember, there’s only one thing that’s perfect and we all strive to see him when we leave this world
I'm not sure it would have stretched that far . . . I'm sure you are right, I have seen a few other videos where they did cut and re-attach the belt :) And you are definitely rught about the Kind of perfect :D
I borred my neighbors manure spreader, one load and the apron in the bottom of spreader broke, 300.00 to fix learned to never borrow If i cant afford to buy then just forget it never works out without too much cost
so you borrowed a war out balers, tried to make a bail and it broke, you replaced the broken belt, washed it and returned it, with out getting one bale.. that bailer need allnew belts as well as chains and other parts, you see, no one will lend anyone there equipment, that is in good shape, but when someone has one that is willing to lend it out, it is because they know it needs a lot of work, and they know who they lend it to will fix what brakes and they get it back in good shape at no cost to them, i had that with a mini excavator that had 600 hours on it, but when i started to use it, it had no power to dig, i called him up and told him, he tells me a bs story that it is only a small machine, i said no, it is a 20,000 machine, and the stick boom should have more then 600 psi hydrolic presser, i am told, its always been like that when he bought it to build his house,more bs but i am a lot smarter then that, after a few more presser tests, and checking relief valves i called him up to pick it up, i know a 15k pump on its way out see the video
If I broke a brand new one it CERTAINLY would be up to me to repair. There should be no reason a new one would fail after 2 hours of work unless the operator was careless.
To everyone wondering why I didn't simply stitch the belt back together:
I didn't know you could. I looked high and low on videos on round baler belts and found absolutely nothing on repairing or replacing. SO it was a total shot in the dark. Also why the arrow may be going the wrong way. The belt had no instructions, I had no manual for a borrowed baler, the owner hadn't replaced any since buying it (so he wouldn't know either).
I did the only thing I could think of. But, should he break another (it will happen) I'll let him know he can repair them that way :)
I think you did the right thing with the new belt those belts are so stretched there’s not much life left in them
The arrow goes in the direction the belt travels though the baler. Also, the dealer has a lacing tool to put new splices on an old belt and patch in a 2 foot chunk to replace the broken section. However, your New Holland dealer probably doesn't have belt that narrow. Also, the arrow is going the correct direction
He is gonna lend you more of his stuff,more often.
The broken stuff so you can repair it too
Hay Suz. When it comes to being a good farmers neighbor, you're outstanding in your field!
Farm girl you have a wonderful sense of humor 😆 and very creative with the sound effects 👍 you should get it touch with the farmers wife Meredith Bernard she and her husband Lawrence had trouble with there round bailer and had to replace the belts I am sure that you and Meredith might even like each other because you both make great videos that I enjoy very much 😁 thanks for sharing 👍
Suzanne I have found that when you Barrow things they always break down.!!!!
And i have found that big round bailer s don't like short hay .
And you can get that belt resized .
That was nice of you to replace that belt. If it was in as bad of shape as the other one you showed, I think your neighbor should kick in a few bucks towards what you spent :)
Suzanne, Enjoyed the video. You are right ,I have washed numerous round balers and that job can be a pain. You were saying the belts couldn’t be repaired but they can . I repair quite a few each season. Sometimes though if they are damaged in several spots then it is better to replace them. Stay safe 🤗
Oh the sound effects are priceless 😂 a hay fart 💨
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Pooped out a bale, lol!
@@This1LifeWeLive when you gotta go you gotta go lol🤣🤣🤣💩💩
I rarely borrow things but when I do they are returned clean and as you said in the same or better condition than when I got it. I was freezing watching you power wash it, for some reason I'm just not in winter form yet, my bloods too thin!
Take care!
Luckily it was washed right before another warm up, and not this week during the 30 degree temps ;D
@@This1LifeWeLive I'm glad to hear that! Now if our Michigan weather witches can properly guess when its going to rain, they said 3 days for the last 8 down here in metro Detroit, its actually rained 7 out of 8 and is raining now as it has been all day ( they showed 10% chance at 4:00am this morning )
it been in the low 20's her for over a month, this past weekend it was 60mph winds all weekend, shit was flying. but hay, that winter here, a few more weeks and we will be in the 25 to 30 below for 2 months then into 40 plus below
I had a round baler just like that. I fixed broken belts and replaced the bearings on end of the rollers so many times that I finally bought a John Deere round baler. The Gehl baler I had was a POS, but I did get $500 for it when I sold it. The guy I sold it to had one just like and wanted a backup just in case his broke. That belt you broke could have been fixed, unless it was rotten. I still have the tool you use to put those wire hooks in the end of the belt. The belts in my JD baler have alligator lacing.
Good job Suzanne and Erik, your neighbour is a lucky fella, not many would go that extra mile, fair play:):)
You can fix that old belt with a spliceing tool and new lacing I have an older version of that bailer shoup is a good place to buy part those belts aren't as bad to spilce has it looks
So glad you found the instructions on the side. Line you I was taught to return things better than I borrowed them.
I borrowed a neighbor's lawnmower once, pushed it across the street to my front yard, started it, walked about ten feet when one of the front wheels broke off. I hadn't had it long enough to do any damage to it but as it rolled okay when I borrowed it I couldn't return it until I bought a new wheel and installed it. Sometimes having integrity is frustrating 😂 I was not happy about having to spend money and repair the wheel but I couldn't return it broken since it rolled ok before I rolled out across the street. Clearly though it was ready to break when I borrowed it.
Hey it's Josh from the facebook group...resubbing ya' now ;)
Ha! Thats pretty good your comment popped into my phone!
@@This1LifeWeLive sweet! Glad to be here (or there?) :p
well impressed with you ;; doesnt look like you ever give up;; i would be lost doing that im mostly old school bailing
Not sure what your relatio0nship is with your neighbor, but they should pay part of the cost for the parts.
I'm on the fence on that one. On one hand, you are right. If a part is already bad, the owner would have to buy it anyway. But on the other hand, misuse can cause part failure. If I lent out my haybine, and the borrower hit a rock and snapped it, I certainly would hope he would buy a new one and repair it, or at least buy the part and let ME repair it. The belt was bad, but most likely my hay crop wasn't well suited to that style baler and caused the break. So I believe it's only fair for me to pay for it.
@@This1LifeWeLive your neighbor should have helped put it on
@@rickhoward5135 He probably didnt want to be filmed and put on TH-cam, and Suzanne wouldnt have anything to upload
@@This1LifeWeLive they are made to bale any hay, corn stocks, straw, you can clearly see the belts are all finished, long over do for replacment, there know use repairing them, out with them all and in with new, that is why it wouldnt roll, the belts are all streached out. finished.. when they are stretched out past adjustment the belt pile up in the rollers sucking down the power until one by one the brake..
Loaned my baler twice,broke both times.I don`t know just seems to work that way.I loaned out my haybine,same thing broken reel.Good job on the repairs,you kids are good neighbors.
Personally, that's why I'd much rather do the job directly than loan out equipment. If someone needs something I'm happy to do it for them, or with them :) Some things we DO loan out, but not our major equipment :)
The triangle (Arrow) on the belt indicates the direction of travel of the belt and I am pretty sure you got it on backwards. CHECK IT before you return it. Know that you know what you are doing, it shouldn't be a big deal to pull it out and run it the other way.
you are so right, anything with an arrow on it, tells you the direction it turns and thats how you install it, it would be like changing a skill saw blade and not looking at the arrow on the blade and checker witch way the shaft on the saw turns an put the blade on with the arrow facing the way tthe shaft turn, how many i have seen people trying to cut with a saw with the blade on back ass, its funy as hell to watch and say nothing, until they complain, the saw crap
You are becoming a good mechanic 👩🔧👩🔧👩🔧👩🔧.
Very informative. No LOUD music required. Glad the arrow is going the correct direction. Well done.
You have doubled the value of that machine. Safety from closing/dropping usually consists of devices that wrap around the exposed portion of the hydraulic Cylinder(s). Not to be ignored. Like you I return rarely borrowed items in better condition than I received them. Just had to buy a friend a new pole saw. Shit happens.
Most likely if you did not borrow the pole saw, your friend would have been the one saying shit happens the next time he used it.
DID I get the arrow correct? I wondered!
@@This1LifeWeLive YUP.
Farm life has a lot of challenges but you handle them all.Thanks for all the videos
And now there is a vid on how to change a round baler belt great job yall have a day love from TEXAS
Some more FYI lol. I never power wash my round Baler. I just take a leaf blower and air compressor and blow everything out real good. I was always told not to power wash them but I’m not sure if that’s correct, I just know it’s worked well for me. Great video though
Normally I would have, problem was it was CAKED with dirt and grass that had just rained and turned to mud . . . no way it was gonna come out with just air :(
Washing is not good for the bearings sitting out in the weather not good either speeds up bearing wear and fires they cause when baling.
Just going to throw this out there. Flat belts can be re-laced, and this is nothing new, it goes back to steam power days as far as I know. Not all flat belts had lacing, seems like I recall some as having a diagonal seam. Anyway, I just had one of the thrower belts on my New Holland 575 baler re-laced this past summer. While hooking up a wagon, I noticed the center part of the lacing pulling apart. The hooks had worn through, so the belt was coming apart. Our local Case/IH dealer who until recently had been the oldest NH dealer in Wisconsin, have what is needed to do this. I removed all the old hooks from the belt, my Father took it down and had them fix it. I should have went so I could see how it was done, but I am always chasing my tail. They did not remove any material from the belt edge, just installed the new lacing and sent along the plastic covered cable to put it together with. Went back together fine, and worked OK the rest of the season.
I was kinda surprised you replaced the belt after it was obvious the belt was gone when you borrowed it, you're a decent person though and you did what was probably right, and hell, at least the baler should be ready to use if you have to, great video
We had one of those bailers years ago and they ate belts and bearings bad design on a good note we probably made 10,000 bails with it 🍻 it is still sitting in the retired line of old junk
Thanks for the video !!! Keep them coming!!! That was nice of you guys to buy him a new belt the hole baler looks like it needs work !?!?
I'm sure it needs all belt replacements, but at least one is done :D
I wish you guys were my neighbors-"take back equipment as good or better than when you borrowed it"
It was a nice gesture to try and help.too bad it was worn out baler. It is what it is
The first round baler I had was a 1600 GEHL. It was new. That actually looks like a pretty good baler.
If you can get belts for $200? That's cheap. He should just replace the belts and get going. But, I've repaired worse lookin belts, js.
In certain conditions, it was really hard to get a bale started with mine.
Slick, dry hay tends to bunch up in front of those balers, then go in, in wads. So it doesn't tie together and roll smoothly. The belt just fell off the side(end) of the bale (as it crumbled), then got caught (pinched) by another belt and the splice was pulled out.
You're a sweetheart of a neighbor, Suzanne. People usually bring MY machinery home when I'm not here, and I get to discover the issues, the day I need to use it😒.
Yeah that sounds about like what this baler did too! But I can only learn from it, should we ever get one down the road ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive Sorry I didn't see your reply. We're in the middle of a major ICE STORM here in OK. NO electricity at my house for 16 hrs and it's not looking good. I'm living in the SOUTH for God sakes. 1 1/2 inches of ice in OCTOBER!!! Not even 10 hrs N of the GULF of MEXICO. 😳
THANKS, for warming up this dreary day, sweetheart, with memories of GEHL.🌝🌚🦋
When it comes to farm equipment, you’re becoming quite the mechanic.
Be careful and take care of yourself.
Definitely being careful! I'm not too familiar with round balers so I was careful to watch anything that might move :)
I had a Heston 5510 round baler it had 10 belts at $100 a piece about ten years ago. I worked at WCCO for 4 years 2 years while going to college. Oh and they do make different kinds of treads on the belts smooth belts don't grab and roll shit, I changed out smother Heston belts to a coarse tread belt to grab the fine grass and it also worked with straw and alfalfa.
That baler looks like it needs to be in a museum not a hay field.
You did a wonderful job , stay strong & safe ! You are amazing , you are special ! Bob
Thank you!
have you considered haveing someone custum round bail your hay for you. we have a small cattle farm and bail our own hay and custum bail for two other farmers. but I often tell my dad that by the time you figure all of the money, equipment, fuel, and time we have in bailing our own hay I think we would be money ahead to buy it from someone.
I feel you pain with break downs on our first field of second cut we almost cough our moco on fire when a gear box went out. a new john deere gear box will be 3500-4000. we haven't fixed it yet it is going to be a winter project. and that was the second major break this year on it.
The neighbors all had theirs custom cut (no one's hay cutter was working this summer). We sell squares as they garner a higher profit than rounds. $8+ a bale vs. $100 a round. That's roughly a $60 loss per round, and I'm not sure what the market is for $100 rounds. Most people buy them because they are cheaper (most sell around $50 for a 4x5 round). If these bales were roughly 900 lbs, that's about 20 bale at 50lbs each.
Hi 👋 I'll probably never do that but still learned something New , your you tube friend that has a sense of humor or humour ? 😉 see you next time ✌✌🙏👍❤
Wish I'd have know you were having difficulty finding information on round baler belt repair. I'd of given you the info you needed to fix it. I've got a splice crimper as I repair all our belts.
I’ve round baled plenty of wheat straw that’s been put through a rotor combine........, that stuff is like baling flower. Now I’m not saying that that baler can bale that short grass but they should do it with no issues. Those belts are extremely far spaced out. It’s like it’s missing a couple belts. Between that and I’d bet them belts are stretched like you wouldn’t believe really put you at a disadvantage.
WCCO Wahpeton canvas company Wahpeton ND is where I'm from and they make all kinds of canvas including draper heads and swathers. If you can't find the locks a piece of angle iron cut to length can be placed on cylinder rod when extended, cylinder can't close. Put a little pressure on it to hold in place.
Great idea!
I have the same defect!
I return things better than they were when I got them!
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Lol now u done it😉things like that happens my boss had a problem with his some of the net got stuck in the gear box and messed up the seal...then friend of mine had the belt break to
Thats how you treat people. You borrowed it broke you cleaned and repaired. In the future of they borrow from yall im sure this favor will be returned
Did your right thumb heal good after your accident 2 years ago?
Lol...
I was just talking to a farmer near me who uses deere small roll alfalfa.... smallest I ever seen. I was riding my little harley so I stopped to take some pictures. He thought I was broke down we got to talking. He went to school with father and uncles. I just love talking to farmers
As has probably already been said the arrow is direction of rotation, like Wes I prefer to blast it with air to clean so it doesn't risk getting water in a bearing and then having it sitting there for several months to rust or freeze if I do wash it I usually do so the day before I first use it. Looking as the state of the other belts my guess is they will be replacing the others next season as well saying that though we did 25,000 on our last set though we replaced the endless with stitched if these last as long we will be happy though other than price I find belts nicer and easier to change than pickup times they're like vampires and always draw blood.
Honestly it wasn't a bad repair . . . just took forever trying to figure out how to get enough slack to get the ends together!
Wouldn't feel bad dad has been farming for nearly 70 years and helping for near 80 and he hadn't got a clue how to slacken ours off and on ours it's simple as it just has a lever that slides a stop out so it's just a case of picking it up enough to slide the bolt out and drop it down that it takes about 5 minutes to change the belt out 10 if I'm being fussy about the positioning or the old one has wrapped around something.
A JD 459 silage special offers replacement pins to connect the belts.....That have ridges and valleys to mate with the splice.... Fairely easy to install, but let them wear almost thru and trouble will ensue...... We swapped a strip till planter rig for a 459 silage special... and the owner hadn't changed the pins... We had to take a dremel tool with a small cut off wheel and cut in between each link on the splice,,,,, took every pack of wheels in Walmart and about 1 hour per splice.....We can bale short fine material but it doesn't want to unroll when we Re-baale,,,,, cut the Net Wrap and it becomes what you had,,,,,, a pile
LOL sounds like an allllllll day job!
You can repair those belts. Clip it belt vise I believe and clips.
I do mine . But dont have one of those old Gehl balers
I did see a few videos on that, but honestly wasn't going to monkey with that and hope it worked out, lol!
Releasing tension on belts is different with each brand. Newer ones are much easier. I have a claas and can release pressure on belts from the ground in seconds. Usually the way to bale fine hay with round balers is big rolls and drive fast and force the hay in to make bales as fast as possible or the hay crumbles to nothing.
I have a new hollandaise 648 please do you know how I could release the tension I have been trying all day
@jaredtomochak4946 if your baler has a hydraulic gate lock valve lock it and then use tractor hydraulics to release belt tension... usually it's same way as raising the gate
Well done Noob Gurl !! Just goes to show that you are not just a pretty Blonde !!
A borrower nor a lender be was a popular refrain of my father. Easy to say but difficult in practice.
I’m like you I hate to borrow stuff for just that reason.. as a responsible person your obligated to repair it.. but it sucks maybe your neighbor will at least split the cost ? I would just mention that you had to replace the belt and see if they will help with the cost
not a hope in hell, they would never lend it out if it was in good shap, ppl only lend stuff to ppl that dont know better that it is ready to blow a part
That belt is made in my home town of Wahpeton, ND by Wahpeton Canvas Company
Hi you can repair the belts by splicing a 1meter piece in to old belt but as belts are old you need to measure Belts . All so by putting new on that will be to tight. Go luck
Great job 👍
The biggest issue with thst baler and finer grass is the spacing between the belts...and the slickness of the belts
Great video, do you know why it cost $ 200.00 because it is made in the USA 🇺🇸.
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Thanks, glad you enjoy them!
If you can give that old belt to your neighbor so he can use it splice any other broken belts. Nice video.
OHHHHHHHH GOSH! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!
Well your to nice I don’t think your neighbor would have expected you to replace the belt. The sun causes them to age
I'm sure the sun does! These were certainly old as well, judging by how smooth they were . .
@@This1LifeWeLive Suzanne, on all older balers the belts were smooth...even when new. As belts age, they stretch and won't stay tight, unlike humans😁!
Round Balers seem to be the way most farmers like to bale for themselves, since storage could just be out in a field and in a row. Also Cows and other farm animals seem OK with it. Rule of thumb - The less moving parts the better, for things to break in a baler.
It seemed like less to fail, but the parts that COULD fail were more expensive ;)
Return borrowed items as good or better than they were when you got them, and you can borrow them again if needed.
Yep replacing belts are fun especially when there is a pattern long short belts on mine. Yours seemed to be all the same. The other part of the process was the lacing getting the pin looped and fed back in on itself....I am old and have not much finger grip left or feeling in my hands. You did a great job from what I saw. 👍
I wanna learn what you dp you so amazing
Invariably, every time I borrow something... it will break!
Good job
There's no way I would have barrowed that baler in the condition its in. Looks like every belt on it is about to pull apart and to replace them would cost more than the whole baler is worth. Although, I would have respliced it back together before I purchased a new belt. I'd say this is a parts baler at best. Also not a fan of washing a baler out with water, especially not high pressure, you just put water right into the bearings. Always clean a baler out with air to keep from damaging bearings. A leaf blower works great for that.
Words on the belt go on the outside when you install the belt.
The arrow is for the way the belt rotate’s. Then you just connect the belt and hammer in the pin.
You’re a great neighbor but you could have fixed the old belt for about 20$. You have to relace the old belt. A couple inches different length won’t matter Because the all stretch over time. Just some FYI from a round bale user in Kentucky. Remember, there’s only one thing that’s perfect and we all strive to see him when we leave this world
I'm not sure it would have stretched that far . . . I'm sure you are right, I have seen a few other videos where they did cut and re-attach the belt :) And you are definitely rught about the Kind of perfect :D
Maybe you work out a deal with neighbor to buy baler, if you need it,, you learn to do repair already, : D
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There is a real debate about using a power washer on round balers; some say it gets water into the bearings and so say do it anyway
I wouldn't powerwash any baler on a regular bases, but this was an exception due to how much grass was entirely stuck everywhere and mud :(
Made in Wahpeton North Dakota actually
I think this belts can be repaired
Start at front and end at back of the baler is the easy way to do it
Triangle shows you the direction the belt goes. It must turn in the direction of the triangle (arrow).
LOL it may have gone on backwards then . . . not sure!
I borred my neighbors manure spreader, one load and the apron in the bottom of spreader broke, 300.00 to fix learned to never borrow
If i cant afford to buy then just forget it never works out without too much cost
so you borrowed a war out balers, tried to make a bail and it broke, you replaced the broken belt, washed it and returned it, with out getting one bale.. that bailer need allnew belts as well as chains and other parts, you see, no one will lend anyone there equipment, that is in good shape, but when someone has one that is willing to lend it out, it is because they know it needs a lot of work, and they know who they lend it to will fix what brakes and they get it back in good shape at no cost to them, i had that with a mini excavator that had 600 hours on it, but when i started to use it, it had no power to dig, i called him up and told him, he tells me a bs story that it is only a small machine, i said no, it is a 20,000 machine, and the stick boom should have more then 600 psi hydrolic presser, i am told, its always been like that when he bought it to build his house,more bs but i am a lot smarter then that, after a few more presser tests, and checking relief valves i called him up to pick it up, i know a 15k pump on its way out see the video
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Farmers wife using small round bailer
You most likely could have spliced in a piece.
sometime We need to read !
Those belts are rotten...You can resplice those belts but the tools are a bit pricey.
The rod holding splice needs bent over or it will slide out.
All the splices on the other belts were done like that, so I just followed suit.
@@This1LifeWeLive ok I learned something new thank you.
You put the belt on the wrong way the arrow should be pointing down on the back of the baler and the rough side of the belt should be on the outside
They make a belt splicing tool
There was no rough side to the belt . . . both were the exact same . . . 😕
Burn that junk to the ground not worth fixing. Baler like that are no good ever thing drives off the belts. Junk junk junk.
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OMG i love those pockets on those pants.
honestly this time of year I'm wearing 2 (or 3), so I'm not really paying much attention to style anymore ;)
@@This1LifeWeLive well i pay close attention so i will keep u informed 😉
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Hell you could break a brand new one so what makes a difference I think you would be giving up pretty soon
If I broke a brand new one it CERTAINLY would be up to me to repair. There should be no reason a new one would fail after 2 hours of work unless the operator was careless.