I think SeaWorld investing so heavily in family rides is a pretty smart move. For one, families spend the most money at the parks. And on top of that, rides with the best return on investment are the ones that get people to keep coming back. You look at a coaster-centric park without much for younger riders who have outgrown the kids area but aren’t ready for the biggest rides in the park, that creates a lot of families who won’t spend their money there. You attract the families with these smaller rides, they see the bigger ones that they won’t be ready for until maybe a year or to, and that gets them to come back and spend all that money again. Also, have to remember the 2020 additions that SW had a hard time paying for, and while things are probably looking better for them financially now, they probably have to save some money and buy back some goodwill with manufacturers. Just a thought.
Not to mention they just invested in a ton of big coasters. They have to have a ride that appeals to more of the general public as well to help it even out
Considering that the whole SeaWorld chain has been adding plenty of big coasters lately, this is a solid addition for both the general public and enthusiasts. Seems that both of the Virginia theme parks in the area are getting the proper additions in 2025
well they have changed their minds twice already so maybe they reconsider. This looks great please build it but in another spot and give us a big boy coaster in dracken fire plot
If this new coaster going be themed to Big Bad Wolf it better be very intimidating like the original. The bavarian theme, terrain, wolf hounds, bell clock structure with bell ring and gothic feel has to be on point!!!!
In my opinion I think Busch gardens Williamsburg is going for a park revival route, the coaster after next will probably be a high thrill coaster, right now with darkoaster, fixing nessy,and brining back big bad wolf they are bringing family rides and bringing back their old rides in a new way. I like what they are doing!
It's a pretty smart move, actually. A cheaper coaster that appeals to younger riders while reminding older guests of Big Bad Wolf nostalgia will bring in plenty of guests and merch sales for the 50th anniversary. Plus, they don't have a true family coaster, and Pantheon has a lot of the ejector / overbanked elements of an RMC without being too intense for the GP like I-305 is. In the future, they could also add a Wild Moose back there as a tribute to the former "Wild Maus." I just hope they also add a Starflyer and name it *"Red Riding Hood"* to point guests behind Das Festaus and the Verbolten building.
Agreed I rode the original BBW and I loved it. BGW needs to add to historical value. Williamsburg is a historical town. I can see the marketing team adding to the ambiance of the historical value of BBW!
Parks that invest in both family coasters and thrill coaster are, at least in Europe, bringing in the most customers. Examples are Phantasialand, Europapark, Efteling, Liseberg, Tivoli Gardens, Tivoli Grona Lund, Parc Asterix and so on.
Don’t they know how much money the park would get with an RMC? There goes my plans for a Southeastern/Northeastern coaster vacation in 2025. By the way the original BBW wasn’t really a family coaster. Sure, it had no inversions, but it had that drop down the cliff. I don’t see this being better than the original. My only hope for an RMC hybrid would be something the size of Wildcat’s Revenge. But where would it be built?
Have to agree that they should be putting somthing huge in that area - just like Steel Vengeance pulled the masses to the very back of CP, a giga or large RMC could do the same here and keep them deeper in the park for more hours. I don't think thr family B&M will be a bad addition, but I agree it should be placed somewhere else.
So, I would have preferred to see a Vekoma Suspended Thrill Coaster like Hals-uber-kopf which I rode this past summer and in my opinion is actually better than a lot of B&M inverts. I get why BG likes B&M. Capacity and Reliability. I think B&M is the safe play with those 2 subjects.
I would love to see this RMC version, of the old Drachen Fire coaster come to this park. th-cam.com/video/rrER5cZ0ggg/w-d-xo.html But he first hill where it has that famous first dive roll inversion, then a camelback airtime hill and a cobra roll. As a great way to pay tribute to what this coaster is representing. Also, add in the last two corkscrews and cutback as well. I would also love to see the Big Bad Wolf come back as a custom layout S&S Axis coaster. Using all the elements of this layout, along with these two layouts. (Layout 1) th-cam.com/video/CtuwGEl28ZQ/w-d-xo.html (Layout 2) th-cam.com/video/aU1eQLPcc8c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kMKd--rwR7pv03kZ (Layout 3) th-cam.com/video/X1m3_h7F6-U/w-d-xo.html
Families is where the money’s at, enthusiast like us don’t spend anywhere near as much as families do. Just a fact of life and good business sense I suppose
Back when Drachen Fire was brand new, I remember thinking pretty much what you say here about the long walk back to it. Even as tall as it was, it was kinda hard to see back there.
Yeah, this coaster should be in the Ireland section of the park, which would make WAY more sense. They need to leave the Drachen Fire plot alone unless it's an RMC
I'm actually excited and intrigued that we are getting a B&M Family Invert finally in the States. I've been wanting to see this go against the Vakoma and S&S Family Inverts over here in the States. I wished Williamsburg had gotten something Crazier but this does finally showcase a more family focused coaster in B&M Ride Catalog that doesn't need a passport to go experience.
I rode Dragon Fyre numerous times.it was a very good ride that was 1992.times and geographic are 30 year difference Family B and M will be a huge success!
Something to fit in the lower height requirement is sorely needed at BGW since Big Bad Wolf left. Other than Invadr and Grover every coaster has a 48” height requirement. This would help fill that gap. The coaster is also going to be very visible from the train ride. Currently it’s just a “pour one out” moment every time you go by that empty Drachen Fire station.
I like they are pushing for diverse family coasters… differentiates them from other chains. They aren’t making family mine trains, etc, they are offering younger people an introduction to different styles of rides across the chain
It was nothing like hearing the howl of the wolf, while riding BBW through the original town. It does have a fan following, and It's nice to see them listening to the public. However, I hope they invest in the theming especially if it's family friendly, and the nostalgia of the original had a lot to do with the drop into the river. I hope they accommodate with other features.
By keeping the height low, the sightlines going into Verbolten’s Black Forest won’t be ruined. A hyper hybrid coaster would be too obvious back there as you enter the first launch on Verbolten.
Agree the layout needs entrance near Bumper cars. Sea World owners cheaped out on bgt 5 bucks for sky ride. I wanted a drachen fire return but that's not going to happen. That ride was great.
I offically predict..that over the next 10 years..multiple parks will be retiring theyre arrow suspended coasters for b and m family coasters..that includes iron dragon, both vortexs at canadas wonderland and kings island..i could be wrong...but the more i think about it the more i like this senario...
Going off of that rendering video, it isn't exactly "family." It's more like an intermediate step inbetween family and adult. Family coasters are something you can bring your 5 year old on with parents. I don't think most 5 year olds would want to go on this.
It doesn’t make sense to go with this type of ride, the back of the park needs a big ride back there to spread the crowd out and plus they already have a invert coaster regardless if it’s a family one or not, I’m highly disappointed the 50th anniversary should be epic not lackluster😒
It makes a lot of sense…. Less families are interested in Disney or the cost of Disney.. where are they gonna go? You want to tap into that market now.
I think that Seaworld is adding family coasters to their parks because many parks do not have any family coasters (For example Dorney Park does not have one if you do not include Wild mouse as one). Adding family coasters is probably their response to the Six Flags and Cedar Point merge. I think that in 2026 or 2027, they will go back to adding bigger coasters.
I just wish they picked a spot that wasn’t prime for a thrill coaster. Idk where busch could build a good thrill coaster other than this spot, that pipeline really hinders their ability to expand
This news is heartbreaking, to say the least. I am absolutely furious with this downright stupid decision... bgw will now have two back to back family coasters... This plot was supposed to be reserved for a flagship rmc Coaster (or a flagship coaster from another manufacturer) , and they are bringing this garbage? Genuinely never thought I'd say this, but if this turns out to truly be a b&m family invert, I will be canceling my membership. I can not understand how you can insult this plot of land to such a degree. By the way, remember this is supposed to be a celebration of a big anniversary... What an awful joke.
Well...if you want to celebrate your 50th anniversary with a coaster that grandparents can ride with their grandkids, a family invert is much better than, say, Zadra on steroids. I'd have liked to see a major RMC in there too, but I get why BGW is doing this.
Still a firm believer we will get a giga or an rmc giant like Iron Gwazi in the next 10 years. Anyways this looks pretty cool, should be a solid addition
DarKoaster is violent. They don't have anything like this since BBW (which was still more intense probably). This is smaller and less expensive hardware than most B&Ms. And none of them are cheap, you pay for what you get mostly.
This should have gone to San Diego. San Antonio should be built up with thrill coaster because San Antonio has tons of room and needs to compete with SFFT. Do they still have room for a RMC Hyper Hybrid somewhere else?
I feel like maybe they are having trouble attracting families to the park as their is so much to do in Williamsburg. This may be a push to attract families that have planned a visit to visit the city and not a BG destination vacation. I know they have Invadr and Darkoaster but with such a huge park, I belive it will be an absolute homerun and spread more people out to that area and be a straight people eater. Maybe with the 2 lifts, this will be one of the few family coaster to run 3 trains
This thing simply does not belong in that plot of land. It could go behind Ireland and wind through the trees. It could go behind the wildlife area near the aviary and along side the amphitheater in France. It could go on the hillside in Germany between the bridge and the Rhine River Cruise launch. But that spot makes WAY more sense for a large coaster that both requires a large plot and is more visible from the midway. My other problem with this is that it has the rumored tie in to BBW but they only plan a handful of 2D facades. If you want to pay homage to BBW then you need to do something new and perhaps even better with the theming. The Bavarian village was one of the coolest aspects of BBW. One of the reasons that people feel Verbolten is a worthy successor to BBW is because the theming is so good (that and the preserved ending.) But if you phone in the theming on this other ride successor then it'll come off as cheap and tacky and you'd be better off going with an original theme that demanded less in terms of presentation.
It would worry me far more if they didn’t invest in their parks at all. Pantheon only opened a few years ago and Loch Ness is getting a retrack. I’m more vastly more optimistic about SeaWorld than I am about the lower priority cedar fair/six flags parks.
SeaWorld San Diego next? We knew that SeaWorld would be getting 2 more additions both by b&m one here that we now know and we could hear about the possible surf coaster or wing
Honestly I don’t think this would ever happen but I would have loved a Mack Multilaunch coaster like helix with the corkscrew drop, 1 lift, midway boost and 7 inversions.
Just say you would rather have a thrill coaster… Families bring in the money for parks. I’m more confused of why they would build another inverted coaster instead of something like Penguin Trek at SeaWorld Orlando
It makes sense, and I’m not disappointed, especially considering DarKoaster. The placement is pretty meh, but I’m for it as a concept. I agree though, the other two SeaWorld parks made more sense for this coaster type. Plus, Verbolten I feel is already a worthy enough replacement, with its second half paying homage to BBW.
While I fully trust the powers that be at SeaWorld Parks and Entertainment to have done their due diligence with regard to market research and the parks future plans. I'm sure the ride will be great, BUT! I don't know if naming or trying to revive a Big Bad Wolf Theme is a good idea. I think they already pay homage in the easter eggs and the iconic drop toward the river on Verbolten. Imo, when you reuse a ride name exactly, you tarnish the legacy of the original.
The people who make these decisions get paid to do so, so I'm sure that they have data that tells them this was the way to go! Even though they just built an indoor dark family coaster 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Im sick of the excuse of this coaster being in the back of the park, not being able to be seen, far away, when the hollow sceam mazes are back there, and those are some of the longest lines during that time of the year for those attractions it doesn’t stop The guest from going back there during that time so why would this coaster be any different further more the family coasters are better investments they cater to every demographic. thats what will draw the guest back to the area the icing on the cake is for the locals that grew up on wolf and have a return is a win especially with the refurb of loch Ness its seems like bgw is really getting back to the folklore elements of the ride that made them so unique but hey thats just my opinion from a local and someone thats been going to the park since 1988
No thanks. Tired of this trend in the US market for family coasters. Sucks! I live in Florida everything new announced is a family coaster whether it be at seaworld or B.G.
I don’t disagree, but you have to consider that parks just don’t care what enthusiasts value as much as the general public. Their bottom line is money, and they want to attract those who spend more. On top of that, SeaWorld just added a bunch of new coasters, so it would be redundant to double down in that specific niche of thrill seekers
This makes me want to skip BGW for a few years. I literally puked when I heard this leak. Are liberals running these parks now? God they love running things into the ground.
This move is disappointing. A top-tier RMC could’ve really put BGW on another level. They misfired with DarKoaster 2.0 and are going to waste prime real estate on this. At least BGT got their RMC, and only used the Wild Mouse plot of land for their family B&M
Great adventure is already adding a “family boomerang”. That one surprised me that they labeled it a family coaster, especially considering it has a spike that hits over 150 feet in the air and can make a case as one of the top 3-4 rides in the park after it’s built
Even though Big Bad Wolf was a family coaster I would love it if the theme was reused for an S&S axis instead. That would be more reminiscent of the original.
It may not be extreme, but it’s far from an overly tame ride. Just judging by the POV, the drops and fast banked turns are enough to satisfy a lot of people
And truthfully I think seaworld as a whole is shifting the demographic to families. This major merger between SF and CF might have convinced Busch/Seaworld to back off from the thrill demographic and target a different demographic. But that’s gonna kill them if the wing coaster opens an hour away. If this isn’t a big bad wolf theme it’s gonna be a complete flop.
Boooooo!!!! I hope that's not the ride that's coming! It wouldn't be hard to see if it was a hyper or a giga. First off, screw inverts! They aren't that good, I said it! Disappointing!
Including Alpengeist, Montu, and Afterburn. All 3 are "OK." I could go to BGW, BGT, and CW and not ride any of those and not feel like I'm missing out at all.
WHAT IS THIS CRAZE WITH FAMILY COASTERS? I hate family coasters. Coasters are supposed to have huge heights with big drops. Not something some snot nose kid can ride and will like. Im done.
I’m just wondering if B&M can adapt this 2 across seating for some thill coasters at smaller parks that might not necessarily need the capacity but still get a thrilling B&M invert.
I think SeaWorld investing so heavily in family rides is a pretty smart move. For one, families spend the most money at the parks. And on top of that, rides with the best return on investment are the ones that get people to keep coming back. You look at a coaster-centric park without much for younger riders who have outgrown the kids area but aren’t ready for the biggest rides in the park, that creates a lot of families who won’t spend their money there. You attract the families with these smaller rides, they see the bigger ones that they won’t be ready for until maybe a year or to, and that gets them to come back and spend all that money again. Also, have to remember the 2020 additions that SW had a hard time paying for, and while things are probably looking better for them financially now, they probably have to save some money and buy back some goodwill with manufacturers. Just a thought.
Not to mention they just invested in a ton of big coasters. They have to have a ride that appeals to more of the general public as well to help it even out
Considering that the whole SeaWorld chain has been adding plenty of big coasters lately, this is a solid addition for both the general public and enthusiasts. Seems that both of the Virginia theme parks in the area are getting the proper additions in 2025
It’s not for me it’s for my Son and I’m 100% ok with that. The next Big ride will come .. someday
well they have changed their minds twice already so maybe they reconsider. This looks great please build it but in another spot and give us a big boy coaster in dracken fire plot
If this new coaster going be themed to Big Bad Wolf it better be very intimidating like the original. The bavarian theme, terrain, wolf hounds, bell clock structure with bell ring and gothic feel has to be on point!!!!
In my opinion I think Busch gardens Williamsburg is going for a park revival route, the coaster after next will probably be a high thrill coaster, right now with darkoaster, fixing nessy,and brining back big bad wolf they are bringing family rides and bringing back their old rides in a new way. I like what they are doing!
I should call this new coaster Wolf's Revenge.
That is so Pennsylvanian. BGW would never do that!
I’ve never been disappointed at a new coaster until today
Where else are they gonna add a new major thrill coaster?
Womp Womp
@@revived2036 Womp Womp moment indeed 😂
I think the new coaster looks fun but I'm disappointed it's taking up such valuable land
If they get creative they could probably fit something between Lock Ness and Italy. Behind Pompeii
It's a pretty smart move, actually. A cheaper coaster that appeals to younger riders while reminding older guests of Big Bad Wolf nostalgia will bring in plenty of guests and merch sales for the 50th anniversary. Plus, they don't have a true family coaster, and Pantheon has a lot of the ejector / overbanked elements of an RMC without being too intense for the GP like I-305 is. In the future, they could also add a Wild Moose back there as a tribute to the former "Wild Maus." I just hope they also add a Starflyer and name it *"Red Riding Hood"* to point guests behind Das Festaus and the Verbolten building.
Agreed I rode the original BBW and I loved it. BGW needs to add to historical value. Williamsburg is a historical town. I can see the marketing team adding to the ambiance of the historical value of BBW!
Parks that invest in both family coasters and thrill coaster are, at least in Europe, bringing in the most customers. Examples are Phantasialand, Europapark, Efteling, Liseberg, Tivoli Gardens, Tivoli Grona Lund, Parc Asterix and so on.
Obviously SeaWorld got a great deal to buy 3....So we're getting new B&M family coasters at S.W Orl, BGT & BGW...makes sense
Don’t they know how much money the park would get with an RMC? There goes my plans for a Southeastern/Northeastern coaster vacation in 2025. By the way the original BBW wasn’t really a family coaster. Sure, it had no inversions, but it had that drop down the cliff. I don’t see this being better than the original. My only hope for an RMC hybrid would be something the size of Wildcat’s Revenge. But where would it be built?
they still have a lot of room - but not a huge unused piece after this.
This new coaster is ok. It's good for the whole family but I was having high hopes for the ground up RMC.
me too, and since 2 out of the last 3 coasters we got were already family coasters i expected another thrill ride
Have to agree that they should be putting somthing huge in that area - just like Steel Vengeance pulled the masses to the very back of CP, a giga or large RMC could do the same here and keep them deeper in the park for more hours. I don't think thr family B&M will be a bad addition, but I agree it should be placed somewhere else.
So, I would have preferred to see a Vekoma Suspended Thrill Coaster like Hals-uber-kopf which I rode this past summer and in my opinion is actually better than a lot of B&M inverts. I get why BG likes B&M. Capacity and Reliability. I think B&M is the safe play with those 2 subjects.
Fantastic news, this is a much better ride for BGW than a huge RMC that would kill the park atmosphere.
Nah. We need that RMC
I would love to see this RMC version, of the old Drachen Fire coaster come to this park.
th-cam.com/video/rrER5cZ0ggg/w-d-xo.html
But he first hill where it has that famous first dive roll inversion, then a camelback airtime hill and a cobra roll. As a great way to pay tribute to what this coaster is representing. Also, add in the last two corkscrews and cutback as well.
I would also love to see the Big Bad Wolf come back as a custom layout S&S Axis coaster.
Using all the elements of this layout, along with these two layouts.
(Layout 1) th-cam.com/video/CtuwGEl28ZQ/w-d-xo.html
(Layout 2) th-cam.com/video/aU1eQLPcc8c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kMKd--rwR7pv03kZ
(Layout 3) th-cam.com/video/X1m3_h7F6-U/w-d-xo.html
Other family coaster?
Families is where the money’s at, enthusiast like us don’t spend anywhere near as much as families do.
Just a fact of life and good business sense I suppose
Back when Drachen Fire was brand new, I remember thinking pretty much what you say here about the long walk back to it. Even as tall as it was, it was kinda hard to see back there.
Yeah, this coaster should be in the Ireland section of the park, which would make WAY more sense. They need to leave the Drachen Fire plot alone unless it's an RMC
I'm actually excited and intrigued that we are getting a B&M Family Invert finally in the States. I've been wanting to see this go against the Vakoma and S&S Family Inverts over here in the States.
I wished Williamsburg had gotten something Crazier but this does finally showcase a more family focused coaster in B&M Ride Catalog that doesn't need a passport to go experience.
Love the prediction, this seems legit but i want that RMC!
You’ll have to go to Kings Dominion for that one
@@marcusmcgraw3519 love me some twisted timbers
I don’t mind it being a different model, but can it still swing? Suspended is not the same as invert.
I rode Dragon Fyre numerous times.it was a very good ride that was 1992.times and geographic are 30 year difference Family B and M will be a huge success!
Something to fit in the lower height requirement is sorely needed at BGW since Big Bad Wolf left. Other than Invadr and Grover every coaster has a 48” height requirement. This would help fill that gap. The coaster is also going to be very visible from the train ride. Currently it’s just a “pour one out” moment every time you go by that empty Drachen Fire station.
I like they are pushing for diverse family coasters… differentiates them from other chains. They aren’t making family mine trains, etc, they are offering younger people an introduction to different styles of rides across the chain
It was nothing like hearing the howl of the wolf, while riding BBW through the original town. It does have a fan following, and It's nice to see them listening to the public. However, I hope they invest in the theming especially if it's family friendly, and the nostalgia of the original had a lot to do with the drop into the river. I hope they accommodate with other features.
I’m really confused, aren’t “confirmed” and “speculative” antonyms?
Right confirmed means you’ve got solid evidence, not speculation based on a layout. Love how people labeled their titles
By keeping the height low, the sightlines going into Verbolten’s Black Forest won’t be ruined. A hyper hybrid coaster would be too obvious back there as you enter the first launch on Verbolten.
I hope it's larger and uses the lake as part of the element.
Agree the layout needs entrance near Bumper cars. Sea World owners cheaped out on bgt 5 bucks for sky ride.
I wanted a drachen fire return but that's not going to happen. That ride was great.
I offically predict..that over the next 10 years..multiple parks will be retiring theyre arrow suspended coasters for b and m family coasters..that includes iron dragon, both vortexs at canadas wonderland and kings island..i could be wrong...but the more i think about it the more i like this senario...
They put in for a 350' hieght variance and got it approved.
Rather have the RMC. Don't waste the land.
Going off of that rendering video, it isn't exactly "family." It's more like an intermediate step inbetween family and adult. Family coasters are something you can bring your 5 year old on with parents. I don't think most 5 year olds would want to go on this.
Any Wild Moose coasters on the horizon for any parks?
I loved the original “ Big Bad Wolf”!
I just don't understand why another family coasters when they just opened one.
I kinda missed the "confirmed" part in the video. Is it sneakily hidden somewhere in the speculation parts?
Everywhere you see blueprints is the confirmed part - it’s real and happening.
Haven't been since May 2021,when I was in 3rd grade. I'm going to make sure I get on in the near future.
This is the reason why I like Kings dominion better
Kings Dominion really needs a not-too-intense hyper coaster.
It doesn’t make sense to go with this type of ride, the back of the park needs a big ride back there to spread the crowd out and plus they already have a invert coaster regardless if it’s a family one or not, I’m highly disappointed the 50th anniversary should be epic not lackluster😒
Wonder how many parts are shared with the bigger B&M inverts so SeaWorld is doing this to cut maintenance cost and inventory idk.
It makes a lot of sense…. Less families are interested in Disney or the cost of Disney.. where are they gonna go? You want to tap into that market now.
I think that Seaworld is adding family coasters to their parks because many parks do not have any family coasters (For example Dorney Park does not have one if you do not include Wild mouse as one). Adding family coasters is probably their response to the Six Flags and Cedar Point merge. I think that in 2026 or 2027, they will go back to adding bigger coasters.
I just wish they picked a spot that wasn’t prime for a thrill coaster. Idk where busch could build a good thrill coaster other than this spot, that pipeline really hinders their ability to expand
This news is heartbreaking, to say the least. I am absolutely furious with this downright stupid decision... bgw will now have two back to back family coasters... This plot was supposed to be reserved for a flagship rmc Coaster (or a flagship coaster from another manufacturer) , and they are bringing this garbage? Genuinely never thought I'd say this, but if this turns out to truly be a b&m family invert, I will be canceling my membership. I can not understand how you can insult this plot of land to such a degree. By the way, remember this is supposed to be a celebration of a big anniversary... What an awful joke.
Well...if you want to celebrate your 50th anniversary with a coaster that grandparents can ride with their grandkids, a family invert is much better than, say, Zadra on steroids.
I'd have liked to see a major RMC in there too, but I get why BGW is doing this.
Still a firm believer we will get a giga or an rmc giant like Iron Gwazi in the next 10 years. Anyways this looks pretty cool, should be a solid addition
DarKoaster is violent. They don't have anything like this since BBW (which was still more intense probably).
This is smaller and less expensive hardware than most B&Ms. And none of them are cheap, you pay for what you get mostly.
This should have gone to San Diego. San Antonio should be built up with thrill coaster because San Antonio has tons of room and needs to compete with SFFT. Do they still have room for a RMC Hyper Hybrid somewhere else?
I feel like maybe they are having trouble attracting families to the park as their is so much to do in Williamsburg. This may be a push to attract families that have planned a visit to visit the city and not a BG destination vacation. I know they have Invadr and Darkoaster but with such a huge park, I belive it will be an absolute homerun and spread more people out to that area and be a straight people eater. Maybe with the 2 lifts, this will be one of the few family coaster to run 3 trains
This thing simply does not belong in that plot of land. It could go behind Ireland and wind through the trees. It could go behind the wildlife area near the aviary and along side the amphitheater in France. It could go on the hillside in Germany between the bridge and the Rhine River Cruise launch. But that spot makes WAY more sense for a large coaster that both requires a large plot and is more visible from the midway.
My other problem with this is that it has the rumored tie in to BBW but they only plan a handful of 2D facades. If you want to pay homage to BBW then you need to do something new and perhaps even better with the theming. The Bavarian village was one of the coolest aspects of BBW. One of the reasons that people feel Verbolten is a worthy successor to BBW is because the theming is so good (that and the preserved ending.) But if you phone in the theming on this other ride successor then it'll come off as cheap and tacky and you'd be better off going with an original theme that demanded less in terms of presentation.
Please let the trains have swinging seats, that would be amazing if the Suspended Coaster idea would come back
It would worry me far more if they didn’t invest in their parks at all. Pantheon only opened a few years ago and Loch Ness is getting a retrack. I’m more vastly more optimistic about SeaWorld than I am about the lower priority cedar fair/six flags parks.
family coaster 2 years in a row :( wheres a new big coaster gunna go now?
With the 50th anniversary it makes sense. Now will it have swinging trains? B&M has been trying some new things as we know.
But why does KI need another suspended coaster?
i’m surprised your prediction of a 80000 foot intamin rmc combo didn’t come true
I know right. But I actually predicted it to be 100,000 feet long, not 80,000. :) lol
SeaWorld San Diego next? We knew that SeaWorld would be getting 2 more additions both by b&m one here that we now know and we could hear about the possible surf coaster or wing
No surprise BGW gets a bigger and better version of something at BGT
Let's Amazing For Busch's Gardens Williamsburg, Virginia USA 🇺🇲 it's Big Bad Wolf 🐺🐾.
Honestly I don’t think this would ever happen but I would have loved a
Mack Multilaunch coaster like helix with the corkscrew drop, 1 lift, midway boost and 7 inversions.
Would be a huge treat
This one puzzles me. They just opened darKoaster, they have verbolten and invadr (basically family coasters). They have family coasters. Bad move.
Just say you would rather have a thrill coaster… Families bring in the money for parks. I’m more confused of why they would build another inverted coaster instead of something like Penguin Trek at SeaWorld Orlando
It makes sense, and I’m not disappointed, especially considering DarKoaster. The placement is pretty meh, but I’m for it as a concept.
I agree though, the other two SeaWorld parks made more sense for this coaster type. Plus, Verbolten I feel is already a worthy enough replacement, with its second half paying homage to BBW.
While I fully trust the powers that be at SeaWorld Parks and Entertainment to have done their due diligence with regard to market research and the parks future plans. I'm sure the ride will be great, BUT! I don't know if naming or trying to revive a Big Bad Wolf Theme is a good idea. I think they already pay homage in the easter eggs and the iconic drop toward the river on Verbolten. Imo, when you reuse a ride name exactly, you tarnish the legacy of the original.
What a massive disappointment🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄. They just opened up a family coaster.
It will most likely replace Drachen Fire.
volume waaaay low on this video,just a heads up
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Not feeling it. It's underwhelming.
Honest this isn’t a bad idea, its just our greed for bigger rides but when I go here every month, the kids dont have as much to do.
The people who make these decisions get paid to do so, so I'm sure that they have data that tells them this was the way to go! Even though they just built an indoor dark family coaster 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
No not true. I was part of the team to make this decision. I wasn't happy with it, but our budget is tight so we went with something smaller
Good point! I love the ride just don’t like the location for it
I just wanted the RMC 😢
Im sick of the excuse of this coaster being in the back of the park, not being able to be seen, far away, when the hollow sceam mazes are back there, and those are some of the longest lines during that time of the year for those attractions it doesn’t stop
The guest from going back there during that time so why would this coaster be any different further more the family coasters are better investments they cater to every demographic. thats what will draw the guest back to the area the icing on the cake is for the locals that grew up on wolf and have a return is a win especially with the refurb of loch Ness its seems like bgw is really getting back to the folklore elements of the ride that made them so unique but hey thats just my opinion from a local and someone thats been going to the park since 1988
I’m disappointed. I hope this doesn’t happen
The Ride Never Ends.
nice animation
this plan is falling through and they are getting a b&m kiddie coaster to replace pantheon
No thanks. Tired of this trend in the US market for family coasters. Sucks! I live in Florida everything new announced is a family coaster whether it be at seaworld or B.G.
I don’t disagree, but you have to consider that parks just don’t care what enthusiasts value as much as the general public. Their bottom line is money, and they want to attract those who spend more. On top of that, SeaWorld just added a bunch of new coasters, so it would be redundant to double down in that specific niche of thrill seekers
This makes me want to skip BGW for a few years. I literally puked when I heard this leak. Are liberals running these parks now? God they love running things into the ground.
This move is disappointing. A top-tier RMC could’ve really put BGW on another level. They misfired with DarKoaster 2.0 and are going to waste prime real estate on this. At least BGT got their RMC, and only used the Wild Mouse plot of land for their family B&M
Come on BGW…what the hell are they doing?
Family Coaster = Families = $$$$
Hope Great Adventure does this for 2025
And other Six Flags parks.
Great adventure is already adding a “family boomerang”. That one surprised me that they labeled it a family coaster, especially considering it has a spike that hits over 150 feet in the air and can make a case as one of the top 3-4 rides in the park after it’s built
This coaster will tank
Even though Big Bad Wolf was a family coaster I would love it if the theme was reused for an S&S axis instead. That would be more reminiscent of the original.
UGGGHHHHHH
This is needed to balance out the park. Everything can’t always be extreme.
It may not be extreme, but it’s far from an overly tame ride. Just judging by the POV, the drops and fast banked turns are enough to satisfy a lot of people
Have parks ever “leaked” fake blueprints to throw people off?
This is such a good move, But……. In a horrible spot of the park. A little disappointing
I am lokey dissapointed ngl
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And truthfully I think seaworld as a whole is shifting the demographic to families. This major merger between SF and CF might have convinced Busch/Seaworld to back off from the thrill demographic and target a different demographic. But that’s gonna kill them if the wing coaster opens an hour away. If this isn’t a big bad wolf theme it’s gonna be a complete flop.
BGT investing in a family coaster after coming off the heels of the elite thrill coaster iron gwazi is a smart move.
Boooooo!!!! I hope that's not the ride that's coming! It wouldn't be hard to see if it was a hyper or a giga. First off, screw inverts! They aren't that good, I said it! Disappointing!
Including Alpengeist, Montu, and Afterburn. All 3 are "OK." I could go to BGW, BGT, and CW and not ride any of those and not feel like I'm missing out at all.
super disappointed, but it’s a cool addition
WHAT IS THIS CRAZE WITH FAMILY COASTERS? I hate family coasters. Coasters are supposed to have huge heights with big drops. Not something some snot nose kid can ride and will like. Im done.
Big mistake. To far back in the park. Should have went with a big scale RMC back there
Agreed
An adult saying “wuff” for Wolf 🤦🏻♂️
I’m just wondering if B&M can adapt this 2 across seating for some thill coasters at smaller parks that might not necessarily need the capacity but still get a thrilling B&M invert.
Maybe