Excited. I am a Bsc. Aerospace Engineering graduate, moving to Germany, from Poland for Masters. Its my dream to work for eVTOLs. Looking forward to the first ever productions and commercial flights!
He just said they started assembly of parts to be tested. Don't hold your breath. None of the evtols have even show its possible to move a person a mile
@tiutran2610 aviation went from kittyhawk to the sopwith camel in the time it's took people trying to ride giant batteries and barely getting a minute max to people still trying to ride giant batteries and not even getting a minute. If people can't stay up long in a basic evtol with no extra weight, then there is no way lilium will with a canopy and air conditioning
Just staring to build the conforming prototype now? It is impossible to have this thing certified and in service in 2025, so that is another date that has been pushed back and still missed.
I'm surprised to hear about start of production without any final specs released yet? What is the tested real world performance regarding range, flight times and speed?
To all the people who said it would never happen? Hello! I am personally so excited for this aircraft project to be commercialized! This is probably the closest to Jetsons we're ever going to get in our lifetimes!
I would not say never, but I am highly skeptical Lilium will be able to pull this off. Even if they get ONE example flying, it is going to be a long time before a Lilium jet will be in commercial use.
I've been following Lilium for a few years and am excited to see this continue to move forward. In some capacity, I will have some partnership with Lilium or its infrastructure partners to provide commercial solar energy-powered charging stations to keep these planes up in the air without adding dirty energy power demand to existing power grids.
@@MsUbersoldat So that was a visual simulation, not the real thing? When do you anticipate the Liiium will be available to the public? Have you considered energy devices other than Lithium Batteries?
Yes. A Jet engine is by definition a hot gas internal combustion propulsion engine. An EDF hat not been categorized to be a jet engine. The term "electric jet" existed for a while mostly in the radio controlled model scene. It applies to the type of aircraft (not the engine) which is "usually" powered by a jet engine, but now being EDF powered. The Lilium thing shouldn't actually be called a jet, because this type of aircraft has NEVER been propulsed by jet engines, and likely never will be. So they use the term in a non-technical sense to associate the aircraft with its "jet-like" fans. But technically this aircraft is not a jet. It reminds me of Porsche still calling the top end Taycan a "Turbo". Similiar thing.
a rapid stream of liquid or gas forced out of a small opening. "a high-pressure shower with pulsating jets". I think the term jet has a larger meaning in which a fluid is forced through a smaller enclosed area to create thrust. A ducted fan may fit this definition.
@@jasonclairmonte8638 Jet is velocity of the outlet is much greater than the velocity of the inlet. A ducted fan can not have this without being super inefficient. The introduction of fuel being burnt creates a large volume expansion that a ducted fan will never have.
I heard the CEO: We have only been spending on marketing. Now we will actually do the work 😂Then file for bankruptcy. It was a great journey. Thank you investors. I guess you can buy US treasuries for 5 pct a year.
There is almost no technical information in the video , the message seems to be that we are too big to fail ,in essence ;just look at our magnificent facilities, gee whiz equipment and so on and how many hundreds of millions of US$ are being thrown at us . I have only ever seen basically the same 'test flight' video where it staggers around at quite low speed never doing anything more than flat turns , without passengers (or equivalent load ??) and certainly not demonstrating any power off capability (which is what the certifying authority will want to know as well as customers... Besides that though the ergonomics of the fuselage need to be examined -- there is only one entry and exit door and the interior has a narrow aisle with forward facing seats ; the height is such that you cannot stand up to walk to the seats and turn around to sit down - you will need to be a hunchback to make it to the rear seats (or even the pilot perhaps) and much of the overall width is taken up with the battery packs alongside the cabin walls (not a nice place if spontaneous combustion occuus as they are want to do . the rush for the exit could be a little 'crowded" if so... One thing the video very clearly shows though is that there is NO sunken floor section between the seats to give extra headroom as various other aircraft and vehicles have used , only the young fit and limber will be able to use this thing and boarding will be slow affecting turnaround , not good.
I heard the CEO: We have only been spending on marketing. Now we will actually do the work 😂Then file for bankruptcy. It was a great journey. Thank you investors. I guess you can buy US treasuries for 5 pct a year.
"Prototypes are easy production is hard" - Elon Musk . Interesting that Lilium is outsourcing the production. But probably the equipment is too expensive for a startup at first.
well, this is the case for mass production. This is a very niche product using niche materials that can not be easily manufactured in high volumes. That is why the vw xl-1 which had cfrp composite body was so expensive. That is also why the production is outsourced to somewhere in spain, because labor there is cheaper than in munich. Also, with cfrp, series production will not differ much from prototype production. That is why rocket jeebus is no genius. He likes to generalize a lot of things that can not be easily generalized
Why don't evtol companies prove it can even be done and is possible before manufacturing? Make one that can lift passanger and can carry them a mile or two first before manufacturing. The answer is because its not possible and they are scams.
Do you have any idea how much it costs to raise all the snakes needed for the oil extraction? It's too expensive to raise just a few snakes, you need to do it at scale to be cost effective. Once they get the snake oil farm up and running, all the doubters will be silenced.
@dacat8171 did they show human flight for over minute without editing? There should be a video of it If it happened. Link to the longest manned evtol flight.
Its actually not good to have production so disjointed into many parts in many locations. Thats the old antiquated model that leads to slow production and even slower iteration. the more you place production under one roof, one location the easier and faster to find and solve problems. having engineers of various departments able to quickly communicate with one another in person, able to understand and solve on the fly. Hopefully in time lilium will consolidate their manufacturing infrastructure
The aircrafts they have today are for testing to prove their technologies. Those aircrafts are not prototypes and they cannot start building prototypes until they got DOA approval. I don’t believe they have DOA approval at this time.
Fuselage is designed outside, batteries are coming from else where. So what did you do guys since 15 years? Party?? For me it sounds like you hired a senior management and he saw that lack of capability and started outsourcing stuff just to make it as fast as possible. Good luck.
what can I say....i suppose the ad revenue could help LILM. Long time investor here. Of all the eVTOLs out there, this one will actually fly w a power failure. יוי
Why do you think that? If the power fails how could it fly? There are no control surfaces like rudder and ailerons they use the motor speeds to maneuver. It would fall straight down and you can tell the front canard never can fully transition horizontal even on the small toy scale model.
@@TheBagOfHolding are you a pilot? Secret to flight from the days of old...basic difference between helicopters and fixed wing aircraft is...........? יוי
Bag is correct - you have to have power to get flow through the 'jet' ducts and be able to deflect the 'ganged' ducts as control surfaces --without power on the ducts are just airbrakes although there might be some flap effect from just the 'barn door ' flat plate effect of the bottom sides -- basically , without power you die.@@yowwwwie
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Excited. I am a Bsc. Aerospace Engineering graduate, moving to Germany, from Poland for Masters. Its my dream to work for eVTOLs. Looking forward to the first ever productions and commercial flights!
Good luck!! Cheers!
We are hiring! lilium.com/careers
Better check this first: 🤪
www.aerokurier.de/static-download/8/3/7/8/5/9/6/aerokurier_Konzeptberechnung_Lilium_Jet.pdf
Apply to Lilium!
@@LiliumAviation sending away an application, will you hire based on a stipend?
밤낮으로 열심히 연구해주시는 엔지니어 여러분들 감사합니다.😊
라이트형제들 처럼, 미래의 사람들에게 영원히 기억되길...
Long term investor here. Keep moving ahead. Lilium and Archer will be the 2 winners.
Not with batteries, that's for sure. Calculate your Turn-around time and then your business case better.
You will lose all your money. 💰🔥
The Germans know how to build machines, go Lilium!
I buy German products because they are designed well and not from China, haha
Agreed, Jesus loves you! @@veritylove212
Incredible. Beautiful.
OMG. About time. This has been one of the longest product rollouts ever.
He just said they started assembly of parts to be tested. Don't hold your breath. None of the evtols have even show its possible to move a person a mile
Aviation take time (a lots)
@tiutran2610 aviation went from kittyhawk to the sopwith camel in the time it's took people trying to ride giant batteries and barely getting a minute max to people still trying to ride giant batteries and not even getting a minute. If people can't stay up long in a basic evtol with no extra weight, then there is no way lilium will with a canopy and air conditioning
Just staring to build the conforming prototype now? It is impossible to have this thing certified and in service in 2025, so that is another date that has been pushed back and still missed.
You should do merch, I want a hard shell jacket like this!
I'm surprised to hear about start of production without any final specs released yet? What is the tested real world performance regarding range, flight times and speed?
Apparently good enough for production
They should manufacture a bunch first and then see if they work.
Pure fantasy
That's not how engineering works :) @@TheBagOfHolding
@@EinzigfreierName thats how scam evtol companies work.
Been keeping up with Lilium since 2015 and the progress is amazing 🛩️
You are kidding, right?
About time!!😀
To all the people who said it would never happen? Hello! I am personally so excited for this aircraft project to be commercialized! This is probably the closest to Jetsons we're ever going to get in our lifetimes!
I would not say never, but I am highly skeptical Lilium will be able to pull this off. Even if they get ONE example flying, it is going to be a long time before a Lilium jet will be in commercial use.
Do you think talking about making parts to test is proof?
Lilium is already failing. Now with the high interest rates bankruptcy will kick in soon.
Super brilliant CONGRATULATIONS I AWAIT GOOD NEWS ❤❤❤
It’s concerning that Palantir sold all of its stake in Lilium before even the production started. Very strange.
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I've been following Lilium for a few years and am excited to see this continue to move forward. In some capacity, I will have some partnership with Lilium or its infrastructure partners to provide commercial solar energy-powered charging stations to keep these planes up in the air without adding dirty energy power demand to existing power grids.
😮 ... you are kidding, right?
Wow
I thought the Liium has already be flight tested according to the videos I've watched. So, it hasn't been in production?
Flying so far was the technology demonstrator.
@@MsUbersoldat So that was a visual simulation, not the real thing?
When do you anticipate the Liiium will be available to the public?
Have you considered energy devices other than Lithium Batteries?
Everything you have seen flown have been sub-scale models.
@@veritylove212 What flew so far was built to show the technological capabilty and general viability of the concept.
@@trekkeruss I get that now. None of us who I shared the videos with got that it was just a simulation. Pity.
Only in Lilium's marketing brain is an electric ducted fan called a jet.
explain
Yes. A Jet engine is by definition a hot gas internal combustion propulsion engine.
An EDF hat not been categorized to be a jet engine.
The term "electric jet" existed for a while mostly in the radio controlled model scene. It applies to the type of aircraft (not the engine) which is "usually" powered by a jet engine, but now being EDF powered.
The Lilium thing shouldn't actually be called a jet, because this type of aircraft has NEVER been propulsed by jet engines, and likely never will be. So they use the term in a non-technical sense to associate the aircraft with its "jet-like" fans. But technically this aircraft is not a jet.
It reminds me of Porsche still calling the top end Taycan a "Turbo". Similiar thing.
@@ericmass11 It's using ducted fans, not jets. Google is your friend for both terms. or read what Speedflap wrote above.
a rapid stream of liquid or gas forced out of a small opening.
"a high-pressure shower with pulsating jets". I think the term jet has a larger meaning in which a fluid is forced through a smaller enclosed area to create thrust. A ducted fan may fit this definition.
@@jasonclairmonte8638 Jet is velocity of the outlet is much greater than the velocity of the inlet. A ducted fan can not have this without being super inefficient. The introduction of fuel being burnt creates a large volume expansion that a ducted fan will never have.
dope video. side question - who actually makes/manufactures the equipment that use to create the parts for the vehicle?
A very good question.
All the good work will pay off.
Meanwhile the
NASDAQ: LILM stock is 1 USD , down from 10 USD.
Naaaah, it won't.
I heard the CEO: We have only been spending on marketing. Now we will actually do the work 😂Then file for bankruptcy. It was a great journey. Thank you investors. I guess you can buy US treasuries for 5 pct a year.
#1 eVTOL on the planet
Na, Joby #1
On which criterias ? 🤣
@@Overdosage2748 Joby crashes and they're louder than Lilium
@@btn73 Any criteria
It doesn't even exist yet. Did you listen to the video? They are beginning assembly on parts to be tested. It can't be the best if it doesn't exist.
The Start of the End.
I would like to know the price when it's ready
It will never get into service.
The entire eVTOL story is a joke.
@@dacat8171 You only need 1.5 billion to have zero "Liilium jets" flying. 🤭
Are you allowed to start production without DOA approval ???
There is almost no technical information in the video , the message seems to be that we are too big to fail ,in essence ;just look at our magnificent facilities, gee whiz equipment and so on and how many hundreds of millions of US$ are being thrown at us . I have only ever seen basically the same 'test flight' video where it staggers around at quite low speed never doing anything more than flat turns , without passengers (or equivalent load ??) and certainly not demonstrating any power off capability (which is what the certifying authority will want to know as well as customers...
Besides that though the ergonomics of the fuselage need to be examined -- there is only one entry and exit door and the interior has a narrow aisle with forward facing seats ; the height is such that you cannot stand up to walk to the seats and turn around to sit down - you will need to be a hunchback to make it to the rear seats (or even the pilot perhaps) and much of the overall width is taken up with the battery packs alongside the cabin walls (not a nice place if spontaneous combustion occuus as they are want to do . the rush for the exit could be a little 'crowded" if so... One thing the video very clearly shows though is that there is NO sunken floor section between the seats to give extra headroom as various other aircraft and vehicles have used , only the young fit and limber will be able to use this thing and boarding will be slow affecting turnaround , not good.
I heard the CEO: We have only been spending on marketing. Now we will actually do the work 😂Then file for bankruptcy. It was a great journey. Thank you investors. I guess you can buy US treasuries for 5 pct a year.
Plus they are all very short flights
Elon Musk stated that the mass production of a vehicle is the hardest part
"Prototypes are easy production is hard" - Elon Musk . Interesting that Lilium is outsourcing the production. But probably the equipment is too expensive for a startup at first.
The facilities are ready and waiting as you can see, production will be small but be assured it will happen
well, this is the case for mass production. This is a very niche product using niche materials that can not be easily manufactured in high volumes. That is why the vw xl-1 which had cfrp composite body was so expensive. That is also why the production is outsourced to somewhere in spain, because labor there is cheaper than in munich. Also, with cfrp, series production will not differ much from prototype production. That is why rocket jeebus is no genius. He likes to generalize a lot of things that can not be easily generalized
Why don't evtol companies prove it can even be done and is possible before manufacturing? Make one that can lift passanger and can carry them a mile or two first before manufacturing. The answer is because its not possible and they are scams.
Do you have any idea how much it costs to raise all the snakes needed for the oil extraction? It's too expensive to raise just a few snakes, you need to do it at scale to be cost effective. Once they get the snake oil farm up and running, all the doubters will be silenced.
@@ddegn
🤦🏿♂️
Volocopter have demonstrated a human eVTOL flight. But their design is a multicopter design. The Lilium design instead is a joke.
@dacat8171 did they show human flight for over minute without editing? There should be a video of it If it happened. Link to the longest manned evtol flight.
@dacat8171 there isn't any proof on earth that any evtol can carry the weight of a person and their own batteries for 5 minutes.
Its actually not good to have production so disjointed into many parts in many locations. Thats the old antiquated model that leads to slow production and even slower iteration. the more you place production under one roof, one location the easier and faster to find and solve problems. having engineers of various departments able to quickly communicate with one another in person, able to understand and solve on the fly. Hopefully in time lilium will consolidate their manufacturing infrastructure
The aircrafts they have today are for testing to prove their technologies. Those aircrafts are not prototypes and they cannot start building prototypes until they got DOA approval. I don’t believe they have DOA approval at this time.
This comment is aging well
Serious companies vertically integrate vs outsource.. there is no short cuts..
Fuselage is designed outside, batteries are coming from else where. So what did you do guys since 15 years? Party?? For me it sounds like you hired a senior management and he saw that lack of capability and started outsourcing stuff just to make it as fast as possible. Good luck.
Lilium intends to stay in the European union despite energy prices?
That's irrelevant for this kind of ops.
@@Walterwaltraud it affects the final price of the product
Start of production of a an Aircraft that has never lifted up. You guys are literally asking for trouble
I am exited let me speak directly with Putin and make a invitation of Russian defence Military from distance.
Remember. Promise will happen 🍀
what can I say....i suppose the ad revenue could help LILM. Long time investor here. Of all the eVTOLs out there, this one will actually fly w a power failure.
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Why do you think that? If the power fails how could it fly? There are no control surfaces like rudder and ailerons they use the motor speeds to maneuver. It would fall straight down and you can tell the front canard never can fully transition horizontal even on the small toy scale model.
@@TheBagOfHolding are you a pilot? Secret to flight from the days of old...basic difference between helicopters and fixed wing aircraft is...........?
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Bag is correct - you have to have power to get flow through the 'jet' ducts and be able to deflect the 'ganged' ducts as control surfaces --without power on the ducts are just airbrakes although there might be some flap effect from just the 'barn door ' flat plate effect of the bottom sides -- basically , without power you die.@@yowwwwie
@@rossnolan7283are you a pilot? Think GLIDE.....it is a factor along with GRAVITY. (it has nothing to do with ducts and jets.....)
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Not a Jet !!
They would say that a jet is simply a thin stream of fluid as in inkjet printer, etc
🤣 Failure
Bla bla bla! Does it fly according to the needs of the public. Are you buying time to keep your investors engaged_