As fun as it is to follow the usual main star wars cast, it can be refreshing to see a story take a step back and make use of characters that usually were only given smaller roles
There's a bit of a timeline conflict, Palpatine made that speech right when Anakin was sent to mustafar, so Anakin would wait patiently only for Sidious to take way too long, looking on the hollownet he would see Sidious being arrested. Anakin would most likely contact Padme and try to escape realizing that the empire is now hunting him down.
He got to stay and enjoy his lava bath til the end as there were no papy palps to interrupt his therapeutic dip into molten rock and tell him to get out and get dressed in a nice black suit.
@@hostergaard This is true. He only survived because Palpatine saved him. Darth Theorist did do a "What If..." where he eventually rescued himself and considering how powerful of a force user he was, it's likely he'd live. Still, he probably would succumb to his injuries.
Anakin would be fated to die on Mustufar by Obi-wan's actions and be left to suffer with his burns. However, this does raises the chance for Padme to survive cause Palpatine won't be able to use force magic to use her life force to keep Anakin alive, and Yoda would be available to go to Mustufar with Padme and Obi-Wan. So while Obi-Wan and Anakin fights, Yoda would stay back to keep Padme stabilized.
@Matt-yg8ub no, Anakin was sent to Mustufar by Palpatine BEFORE the senate meeting where Palpatine declares the Galatic Emprie. Anakin is actually killing the CIS Council during Palpatine's speech. Yoda and Obi-Wan would still make their way to the Jedi Temple and find out that Anakin betrayed them. Senator Bail Organa would inform Yoda and Obi-Wan what happened in the Senate and the journey too Mustufar would still happen with the addition of Yoda coming along, Obi-Wan would convince Padme to go see Anakin since she knew he was in Mustufar and the confrontation would still happen and so on and so on.
What if Rako Hardeen shot and killed Anakin instead of Obi-Wan and when Ahsoka finds out that the jedi council made that plan she turns into the emperor's apprentice?
No palpatine this early means Vader is very likely not even gonna be saved from Mustafar. I think Yoda was set to attack him just after this speech, so this means Vader dies on Mustafar, and Yoda doesn't even need to attack. Which means he doesn't fail, which means he doesn't resign himself to exile. So Yoda should be rebuilding the Jedi order, and Obi Wan should be raising Luke and Leia. I haven't finished watching your what if yet, and I might be wrong about the timing of things, but Palpatine being executed by the Clones should ensure Vader's death and mean a much different timeline for the Jedi. I doubt Tarkin will care to waste resources hunting down a handful of Jedi unless they start trouble. Edit: alight I finished it. I like the what if, but you do kinda ignore a lot of crucial characters. Where are Obi Wan and Yoda in this? Someone pointed out to me this speech happened before Obi Wan fought Vader, so where is Vader? What about Luke and Leia, what happened with Padme's birth? I think it is still good what if, but you did kinda miss some important factors that would alter these events. Other than that tho, my only issue with it writing wise is... Why is Tarkin using an inquisitor? I don't think the Inquisitors would still be a thing in this version of the Empire. Tarkin is kinda very adamantly against force users.
Actually Sidious made that speech when Anakin was sent to Mustafar, so he would sense in the force that his new master is in trouble, he would probably contact Padme to update her, which is when she'll tell him that Sidious was arrested. This would send urgency to him. Either way, I really don't like how he just hand waves all these crucial characters away.
@@BudokaiMan-mr9tw and since Sidious was immediately quietly executed, Anakin wouldn't have been able to save him. But at this time, both Yoda and Obi Wan should be on Coruscant, so Anakin would likely still die since there's no way he could fight them both. Shit, I could this timeline resulting in the death of all 3 depending on where the fight takes place, cuz Tarkin would for sure take the chance to execute all 3 of them if their presence was known to him.
@Matt-yg8ub well, 1) Anakin was alone when he went to Mustafar, and while the clones are programmed not to attack Anakin... He's still a Jedi in the eyes of both Tarkin and the Senate, as Palpatine never got the chance to present him as the hero who saved him. So Tarkin would still order his death if he showed up, and given order 66 was replaced by order 65, it's unlikely the clones would disobey. 2) Yoda and Obi-Wan obviously wouldn't be able to parade around in public, but they could still strike at Anakin wherever he went. If Yoda can get into the senate building, and make it all the way to Palpatine's office in that building without setting off the Alarm, it would not be too big of an issue for them to get to wherever Anakin went. 3) It's pretty clear it wasn't the Senate, but Tarkin who executed Palpatine. Hence the "quietly executed" part. That makes total sense, if Tarkin was going to take over, he wouldn't even try to let Palpatine live.
@@Matt-yg8ub I think if it ended up Mustafar tho and we got the similar scene, it would still play out very similarly, except this time Yoda would be with Obi-Wan, since there'd be no need for him to go fight the emperor. If we got a Mustafar fight again, well... Even Height-of-his-power sidious told Vader he is very lucky it wasn't Yoda who came to fight him on Mustafar. Really, if it went to Mustafar, Vader would be for sure dead since he'd be facing both Yoda and Obi-Wan here. The biggest change would probably be that Yoda would for sure save Padme from being choked out by an enraged Anakin.
Why do I have the feeling that the mere idea of Palpatine being betrayed by the Senate with Order 65 after Order 66 being executed would not only give the Sith an unexpected edge and a huge edge but is also a very bad thing for everyone involved…specifically their enemies and those that threaten their power. Plus it’s nice to see Palpatine get played by his own plans in this ‘what if’ because for some reason Palpatine being defeated by his own plan makes sense (also he would be a very powerful and formidable individual) and the whole concept of Palpatine being defeated by his own plan would fit perfectly well within the SW universe. Palpatine is one of my all time favourite SW characters and it was nice to see you include him in this amazing ‘what if’ story. Also, Palpatine’s show of power and genius intellect was just beautiful. Also who doesn’t love a great Palpatine adventure. It was also fun to see Tarkin take charge and become even more of an asshole and make things worse. I love how even though Palpatine went to so many length to have contingency plans to stay in power…it became his own undoing. Even dead, Palpatine still found a way to screw up the galaxy. Plus the voices for Saw, Rex, Bail, Crosshair, Quinlin Vos, Mas Ameda, Tarkin and Palpatine was just amazing. A great way to kick off 2025. Great job as always and I can’t wait to see what you do next. I do have a few ideas for some possible what if’s: 1) What if Rey was a Mandalorian…essentially what if Din Djarin found Rey and took her in as a Foundling. 2) What if Ezra was a Mandalorian…something like how both his parents were Mandalorians who left Mandalore and went to start their own lives (you could still keep most of Ezra’s backstory) and potentially make Ezra and Sabine a couple (since Disney won’t, we have too…#ezrabine4ever. 3) What if Jango Fett and/or Boba Fett Joined the Republic…I think something interesting could happen with this. 4) What if Rey, Finn and Poe went back in time to the Clone Wars…this would make the World Between Worlds even more of an important focal point and I could also see them get along well with Anakin, Ashoka, Rex and the rest of the 501st (it would be fun to see Rey, Finn and Poe join the 501st) I hope these are some amazing ideas for some potential What if’s
Oh Theorist? Did you cherry pick ideas from the conversation we had on that other video, suggesting this What if? Because I did state only Tarkin would have the balls to betray Palpatine.
What if general kolani (the super tactical droid from clone wars and rebels) joined the rebellion? My guess is that by the time Luke joins up, the rebels would be using a lot more separatist assets. Kolani might also have a affect on the battle of yavin.
This was really good. I actually just sat down and listened to it, instead of in the background. Excellent. What if Palpatine started the Empire with a proxy as emperor? Planning to take the role later on. What if the Care Bears were a group of Ewok Force Users?
Eyooooooooo, got notified the moment it dropped 🎉 May I offer a suggestion, if you’re open to it? “What if Count Dooku won the Clone Wars and enacted all his plans and reforms, yet the Galactic Civil War still happens anyways?”
@DarthTheorist What If Superman was a Force Sensitive Jedi or raised by the Jedi on Coruscant? What if Team Avatar joined the Jedi and the Republic? What if Hancock (Will Smith) travelled to or was in the Star Wars Universe ? What If Deadpool and Wolverine went to the Star Wars Universe? What if Spider-man 2099 or the Web Warriors from Across the Spider-Verse were on Coruscant in the Star Wars Galaxy? What If Qui Gon Jin was the real Chosen One? What If Wakanda was a Planet in the Star Wars Galaxy ? What If Godzilla and the Titans from the Monsterverse were found by the Jedi or DARTH REVAN in the Star Wars Galaxy? What If Darth Revan awakened during the Sequel Trilogy?
War time law is such an Oxymoron. War from the stories i hear are the furthest thing from civil. There is a reason war is best left avoided. Honestly civilians are not exempt from the consequences of Total War.
I love how quickly Papatine fell.
"Wait you cant order 65 me!" said Palpatine
"Lol Lmao" said the Senate
But Palpatine IS the Senate...
So basically this is what if Palpatine betrayed himself?
makes sense
That’s a crazy plot twist
😮....... [whispering] Write that down, write that down! ✍️🏻
As fun as it is to follow the usual main star wars cast, it can be refreshing to see a story take a step back and make use of characters that usually were only given smaller roles
"Oh, you can't do this to me. I started this Empire. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!"
What if Tarkin was chill with the Jedi?
Ohhh😮
Palpatine: "I AM THE SENATE"
The Senate: "kys b"
Lmao 😂 Appreciate the super bro 😎
Where is Anakin at this entire time? Staying at Mustafar?
Finishing up enjoying his therapeutic lava bath without old pappy palps to interrupt and tell him to get up and get dressed in a black suit.
There's a bit of a timeline conflict, Palpatine made that speech right when Anakin was sent to mustafar, so Anakin would wait patiently only for Sidious to take way too long, looking on the hollownet he would see Sidious being arrested. Anakin would most likely contact Padme and try to escape realizing that the empire is now hunting him down.
Wait, where was Anakin? Just staying on Mustafar the whole time? I’m pretty sure he’d hurry back to Coruscant, as soon as he felt Sideous die
He got to stay and enjoy his lava bath til the end as there were no papy palps to interrupt his therapeutic dip into molten rock and tell him to get out and get dressed in a nice black suit.
@@hostergaard This is true. He only survived because Palpatine saved him. Darth Theorist did do a "What If..." where he eventually rescued himself and considering how powerful of a force user he was, it's likely he'd live. Still, he probably would succumb to his injuries.
He must be enjoying the low ground on Mustafar lol
Anakin would be fated to die on Mustufar by Obi-wan's actions and be left to suffer with his burns. However, this does raises the chance for Padme to survive cause Palpatine won't be able to use force magic to use her life force to keep Anakin alive, and Yoda would be available to go to Mustufar with Padme and Obi-Wan. So while Obi-Wan and Anakin fights, Yoda would stay back to keep Padme stabilized.
@Matt-yg8ub no, Anakin was sent to Mustufar by Palpatine BEFORE the senate meeting where Palpatine declares the Galatic Emprie. Anakin is actually killing the CIS Council during Palpatine's speech. Yoda and Obi-Wan would still make their way to the Jedi Temple and find out that Anakin betrayed them. Senator Bail Organa would inform Yoda and Obi-Wan what happened in the Senate and the journey too Mustufar would still happen with the addition of Yoda coming along, Obi-Wan would convince Padme to go see Anakin since she knew he was in Mustufar and the confrontation would still happen and so on and so on.
Add Order 99 to this and it becomes a free-for-all xD
I love watching these after work taking a dump bruh 😹😹😹
What if the x men lived on the planet coruscant instead of earth during the clone wars
For those who dont know there like an army of clones in Corruscant alone there no way Palpatine can survive being hunted by does guys all at once.
What if Rako Hardeen shot and killed Anakin instead of Obi-Wan and when Ahsoka finds out that the jedi council made that plan she turns into the emperor's apprentice?
What if order 66 and order 99 happened at the same time. Causing a glitch that made the clones and droids team up or just defect.
No palpatine this early means Vader is very likely not even gonna be saved from Mustafar. I think Yoda was set to attack him just after this speech, so this means Vader dies on Mustafar, and Yoda doesn't even need to attack.
Which means he doesn't fail, which means he doesn't resign himself to exile. So Yoda should be rebuilding the Jedi order, and Obi Wan should be raising Luke and Leia.
I haven't finished watching your what if yet, and I might be wrong about the timing of things, but Palpatine being executed by the Clones should ensure Vader's death and mean a much different timeline for the Jedi. I doubt Tarkin will care to waste resources hunting down a handful of Jedi unless they start trouble.
Edit: alight I finished it. I like the what if, but you do kinda ignore a lot of crucial characters.
Where are Obi Wan and Yoda in this? Someone pointed out to me this speech happened before Obi Wan fought Vader, so where is Vader? What about Luke and Leia, what happened with Padme's birth?
I think it is still good what if, but you did kinda miss some important factors that would alter these events. Other than that tho, my only issue with it writing wise is... Why is Tarkin using an inquisitor? I don't think the Inquisitors would still be a thing in this version of the Empire. Tarkin is kinda very adamantly against force users.
Actually Sidious made that speech when Anakin was sent to Mustafar, so he would sense in the force that his new master is in trouble, he would probably contact Padme to update her, which is when she'll tell him that Sidious was arrested. This would send urgency to him.
Either way, I really don't like how he just hand waves all these crucial characters away.
@@BudokaiMan-mr9tw and since Sidious was immediately quietly executed, Anakin wouldn't have been able to save him. But at this time, both Yoda and Obi Wan should be on Coruscant, so Anakin would likely still die since there's no way he could fight them both.
Shit, I could this timeline resulting in the death of all 3 depending on where the fight takes place, cuz Tarkin would for sure take the chance to execute all 3 of them if their presence was known to him.
@Matt-yg8ub well, 1) Anakin was alone when he went to Mustafar, and while the clones are programmed not to attack Anakin... He's still a Jedi in the eyes of both Tarkin and the Senate, as Palpatine never got the chance to present him as the hero who saved him. So Tarkin would still order his death if he showed up, and given order 66 was replaced by order 65, it's unlikely the clones would disobey.
2) Yoda and Obi-Wan obviously wouldn't be able to parade around in public, but they could still strike at Anakin wherever he went. If Yoda can get into the senate building, and make it all the way to Palpatine's office in that building without setting off the Alarm, it would not be too big of an issue for them to get to wherever Anakin went.
3) It's pretty clear it wasn't the Senate, but Tarkin who executed Palpatine. Hence the "quietly executed" part. That makes total sense, if Tarkin was going to take over, he wouldn't even try to let Palpatine live.
@@Matt-yg8ub I think if it ended up Mustafar tho and we got the similar scene, it would still play out very similarly, except this time Yoda would be with Obi-Wan, since there'd be no need for him to go fight the emperor.
If we got a Mustafar fight again, well... Even Height-of-his-power sidious told Vader he is very lucky it wasn't Yoda who came to fight him on Mustafar.
Really, if it went to Mustafar, Vader would be for sure dead since he'd be facing both Yoda and Obi-Wan here. The biggest change would probably be that Yoda would for sure save Padme from being choked out by an enraged Anakin.
What if Anakin was trained as a shadow or learned the force alchemy from the ancient Je'daii?
What if anakin was a gen'dai it's a race for a bounty hunter named durge
What if anakin was immortal and can regenerate from anything
Palpatine: No way, I can’t believe this!
What If The Chimera race from the Resistance video game series invaded the Star Wars universe?
Why do I have the feeling that the mere idea of Palpatine being betrayed by the Senate with Order 65 after Order 66 being executed would not only give the Sith an unexpected edge and a huge edge but is also a very bad thing for everyone involved…specifically their enemies and those that threaten their power. Plus it’s nice to see Palpatine get played by his own plans in this ‘what if’ because for some reason Palpatine being defeated by his own plan makes sense (also he would be a very powerful and formidable individual) and the whole concept of Palpatine being defeated by his own plan would fit perfectly well within the SW universe. Palpatine is one of my all time favourite SW characters and it was nice to see you include him in this amazing ‘what if’ story. Also, Palpatine’s show of power and genius intellect was just beautiful. Also who doesn’t love a great Palpatine adventure. It was also fun to see Tarkin take charge and become even more of an asshole and make things worse. I love how even though Palpatine went to so many length to have contingency plans to stay in power…it became his own undoing. Even dead, Palpatine still found a way to screw up the galaxy. Plus the voices for Saw, Rex, Bail, Crosshair, Quinlin Vos, Mas Ameda, Tarkin and Palpatine was just amazing. A great way to kick off 2025. Great job as always and I can’t wait to see what you do next.
I do have a few ideas for some possible what if’s:
1) What if Rey was a Mandalorian…essentially what if Din Djarin found Rey and took her in as a Foundling.
2) What if Ezra was a Mandalorian…something like how both his parents were Mandalorians who left Mandalore and went to start their own lives (you could still keep most of Ezra’s backstory) and potentially make Ezra and Sabine a couple (since Disney won’t, we have too…#ezrabine4ever.
3) What if Jango Fett and/or Boba Fett Joined the Republic…I think something interesting could happen with this.
4) What if Rey, Finn and Poe went back in time to the Clone Wars…this would make the World Between Worlds even more of an important focal point and I could also see them get along well with Anakin, Ashoka, Rex and the rest of the 501st (it would be fun to see Rey, Finn and Poe join the 501st)
I hope these are some amazing ideas for some potential What if’s
Oh Theorist? Did you cherry pick ideas from the conversation we had on that other video, suggesting this What if?
Because I did state only Tarkin would have the balls to betray Palpatine.
What if the COD Zombies invaded the Star Wars Universe?
Well if your living a in a large urban center like Corucant well your dead theres to many people for infection.
Best way to end my work week!
What if general kolani (the super tactical droid from clone wars and rebels) joined the rebellion? My guess is that by the time Luke joins up, the rebels would be using a lot more separatist assets. Kolani might also have a affect on the battle of yavin.
What if schmi was a retired sith lord when Qui-Gon took Anakin
Or
What if Kylo Ren traveled to the Clone Wars era
What is Palpatine was killed by the backbast of a rocket launcher while fleeing grievous
Hell yeah that sound so awesome 👍
This was really good. I actually just sat down and listened to it, instead of in the background. Excellent.
What if Palpatine started the Empire with a proxy as emperor? Planning to take the role later on.
What if the Care Bears were a group of Ewok Force Users?
@DarthTheorist What If Darth Revan awakened during the Sequel Trilogy with Finn and Rey?
What If Obi Wan Had Visions of Anakin's Fall and Order 66?
What if battle of Coruscant lead to a social collapse? Like galactic wide impact Bronze Age collapse scenario due to war or something.
Eyooooooooo, got notified the moment it dropped 🎉
May I offer a suggestion, if you’re open to it?
“What if Count Dooku won the Clone Wars and enacted all his plans and reforms, yet the Galactic Civil War still happens anyways?”
@DarthTheorist What If Superman was a Force Sensitive Jedi or raised by the Jedi on Coruscant?
What if Team Avatar joined the Jedi and the Republic?
What if Hancock (Will Smith) travelled to or was in the Star Wars Universe ?
What If Deadpool and Wolverine went to the Star Wars Universe?
What if Spider-man 2099 or the Web Warriors from Across the Spider-Verse were on Coruscant in the Star Wars Galaxy?
What If Qui Gon Jin was the real Chosen One?
What If Wakanda was a Planet in the Star Wars Galaxy ?
What If Godzilla and the Titans from the Monsterverse were found by the Jedi or DARTH REVAN in the Star Wars Galaxy?
What If Darth Revan awakened during the Sequel Trilogy?
What if Darth Vader Had gain the heart of the universe from marvel comics ?
Anyone for throwing Netflix's Castlevania into a What if? I'm interested in how vampires would work in Star Wars.
How can the senate betray himself??
9:24 or Pong Krell
What if 40K space marines attacked the republic during the clone workers
1:15 -- 2:38 / 6:37 / 11:23 / 22:17
What if the Clone Troopers were female?
War time law is such an Oxymoron. War from the stories i hear are the furthest thing from civil.
There is a reason war is best left avoided. Honestly civilians are not exempt from the consequences of Total War.
Where was Darth Vader
What if Ingsoc(1984 of George Orwell) amd the Empire joined forces?
Wooooo early watcher🎉🎉🎉🎉
What about Anakin?