난 데뷔 초부터 진짜 이해할 수 없는 말이 위너나 아이콘이나 대형소속사빨로 편하게 데뷔하고 잘됐다는거ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ그런 말 하는 사람들은 이런 거 전혀 모르고 하는 말이겠지? 어느 회사에서 연습생한테 작사작곡안무 다 시키냐 맨날 같이 연습하던 사이좋은 애들 두 팀으로 갈라서 데뷔할래 군대갈래 이 ㅈㄹ하는 곳도 싸이코패스같고 저 어린애들한테 너무 잔인하다 이 서바이벌하는동안 잠이나 제대로 잤겠냐..다들 대형 들어갈만한 실력이고 데뷔하기까지 그리고 현재까지 안쓰러울정도로 열심히 살았다 둘 다 잘됐으면
편하게 데뷔한 건 아니지만 저 당시에는 yg 힘을 입은 건 사실임. 옛날에 쇼미더머니 나왔을 때도 회사 얘기 엄청 했던 것 같은데. 위너 아이콘만이 아니라 인지도 있는 기획사 소속 가수들이라면 회사 네임밸류로 인해 추가적으로 득을 볼 수 밖에 없음 그 사람들이 회사빨은 아니어도.
Donghyuk looked so happy and cheerful in the car when he was on his way to see his dad then it got to the scene where he was buying something for his dad and i thought "aw thats so cute" and then i saw that he walked in THAT kind of room and it hit me SO HARD I NEEDED TO PAUSE TO STOP MY TEARS T-T
omg. me too. TT.TT i read ur comment b4 watching and was like, why would u cry if it's a reunion.. but after i watched that part, i cant stop crying.. i could feel u
I was so moved when I heard Seungyoon say those words at the end, how he really wanted this but he didn't want to step on Team B's efforts either. He's really dependable and maturedㅠㅠ
BI is truly a leader. When he speaks even the hyungs listens to him. He always have the right/inspirational words to say. Yes its 2020 and im binge watching win era. I miss Hanbin.
I know right! Hanbin-ah you such a great person and such a precious thing that we really need in music industry, Hope you have great future and I still hope that you'll comeback to iKON , were here to support you everywhere you go! Kim Hanbin (B.I) borahaeee 😔💜✨
Hanbin trying hard not to cry and holdin back his tear...but we can see how his eyes turn reddish...awwww our 17y/o leader...too many responsibilities on his shoulder
Totally agree, his eyes looked so sad while he was trying to keep strong saying he didn't want their friendship with TeamA to get in the way. KSY also broke my heart.
did anyone else cry when Donghyuk went to see his dad? and in the previous episode where the members were thanking B.I and Jinhwan I'm so happy that Team B also get to debut as iKon, I thank YG to bring those boys to their dreams. Their parents must be so proud of them.
he always thinks that B.I can always make him jealous of his abilities at a younger age than him, and once said that no matter how hard he tries to be better than B.I ,he always feels B.I is far better than him... I think that's the reason why he feels bad when his team wins
Nana kwonji he never said that he thinks B.I is far better than him lmao, he said that B.I is so good that he feels like he's never good enough. He felt bad for winning because he's a sweet lil angel who didn't wanna be the one to make Team B sad.
@@txmilxssi7803 seunghyun once said his hope of being a singer is to make people cry and laugh when they listen to his song, at that time the final who is next everyone was made to cry because the song created by hanbin "climax" do you remember it?... YG also praised hanbin talent ,, maybe even everyone knows hanbin is very young at the time ... but his ability to envy his hyungs including seunghyun ... (that's what I caught from his words )... about the word "far better" that is only my personal opinion does not mean that seunghyun is not great ... but B.I is awesome child in my opinion.... I really admire it ... I also really like Mino winners ... I don't know what you mean to write "lmao" Are you Hanbin's hetter?
Nana kwonji first of all his name is Seungyoon not Seunghyun lol And no im not a B.I hater, I'm an ikonic, and Hanbin is my bias! But Seungyoon never called hanbin "far better" he just said that he's impressed by him and he sometimes feels he's not good enough because of how amazing B.I is which is very different from saying "he's far better". Anyway, it's no big deal, have a good day
@@txmilxssi7803 I really admire B.I very much ... and I have corrected my writing about "far better", please re-read ... far better is my personal opinion, it does not mean that seungyoon is not great ... ok, whatever it's called seungyoon seunghyun, I don't care ... ok have nice day ...
its almost been 3years already but i really wanna say that winner always look classy without even tryin, their style is really diff from other idols. they deserve to be winner & ikon was meant to be ikon. both groups are really talented & stylish!! thanks YG for noticing their talents! 🙆
Who else cried when Donghyuk went to go see his dad? I legit thought there was going to be some happy reunion in some apartment... And then I saw this familiar scene.... And I burst out crying TT_TT
Did anyone feel annoyed that a camera followed him into the room? I felt that it was invading his privacy and for once when he visit his father after a year, shouldn't they give him some time on his own to talk to his father without cameras or any other people near him?
I'm an IGOT7, ELF etc(multifandom). But BI just blows my mind away every time he speaks. The level of maturity and realness he had/has is so overwhelming. He is one of the most hardworking people out there who has had to fight for every little accomplishment and yet rarely gets the recognition. He has been forced to walk in someone else's shoes and given so much responsibility and been criticized like hell. Yet he stands up to do what he does best and that's music! Give the child some love seriously!!
I love that when Taehyun, Mino, and Seungyoon composed 3 different tracks all of them sounded so different. I'm excited for the variety in their future songs! XD
Same here ... I've fallen in love with BI from the first time I saw WIN and Team B have Won my heart and attention, especially BI until Right now...😍😍😍
if you haven't been a leader you will never understand Hanbins attitude I understand him it's so hard that your team members who were also young let go of their school all have high hope and as a leader you cannot feel down you have to keep fighting or else they will also feel down..I'm so impressed at young age he went through all of these and still surviving Keep Fighting Hanbin I love both Winner and iKON 💓💓💓
I'm late here but I don't see arrogance in Hanbin, I see confidence. That confidence is what made ikon, ikon. He had to pull out the best of his members. Yoon polished his members. He brought the unification so to speak. To me, Yoon is more levelheaded but that does not equate to Hanbin being immature. Ikon would have fell apart without Hanbin at the helm and that's facts. All that said, Yoon is thinking as a big bro to everyone. I want to give him a big ass hug hes so sweet. Hanbin was thinking as a leader for his guys because if they lose he failed. He failed them. What Yoon was worried about is exactly what Hanbin was worried about. In a way, outside of Jinwoo and Taehyun, the rest would have been okay. All of ikon would be dismantled.
I feel that the words Hanbin said at 24:55 were words that *should* be said as a leader given that situation. He did such a great job and if you've have been appointed an important leadership position, you'd understand what i mean. His team members were feeling down and he picked them up and gave them confidence to continue to move forward, which is what a good leader would have done. Hanbin is honestly such a great leader and it must be hard on him to juggle so many things at such young age. Some people might find him arrogant and overly competitive but i don't think that is the case at all. I feel that many of the things he said may not 100% reflect his true feelings because i'm sure he must have been worried at some point. But since he is their leader, he can't show them that side of him and so he hides it :( He's human after all, and only a teenager at age 17 during WIN, which i think many people tend to forget. I really look up to him for his diligence, work ethics, passion, determination and so much more.
I feel you. people are being to ruthless towards him. I mean, he's only 17 and has his dream right in front of him.i respect Seungyun,but people shouldn't compare hanbin to him, he's like 20 something. honestly, I think hanbin is doing an awesome job at it and is a seriously good leader. and he's so good looking as well *_* *sorry can't control my fangirling*
How could mino still smile after his work was all gone??? If that was me I would cry my heart out and spit every harsh words i know. And admit it, seungyoon hugging jinhwan when taking the group picture is the cutest thing ever
Watching again...and still amazed at what awesome leadership B.I had at such a young age of 16...he was bold, spoke his truth, and chased after his and his team's dream...with no apologies.
When Hanbin said that Taehyun doesn’t fit YG’s style when they first saw his audition video. It breaks my heart because I kinda agree with Hanbin. Even Taehyun himself said that he had to change his singing style so that it can fit into YG’s standards. Now Taehyun left due to mental illness and I think it’s sad because during Win you can actually see Taehyun getting stressed so much, I mean changing who you are and molding yourself into something you’re not will really take a hit in you. I’m ranting because Taehyun was the reason I gave Winner a chance and when I finally became a fan I find out that he already left gosh it hurts. Anyway I wish him all the best and will continue to support Winner and Taehyun’s new group. I do hope that he’s happy with what he is doing now, he’s just so precious and talented, he deserves the world ❤️
I actually am rewatching WIN again and whilst googling about him now. Kinda feel sad if we remember how stressed and struggling during WIN era for all members.
I prefer the fun and jolly Minho than the serious leader Minho. I really think that it is meant to be that Seungyoon is the leader now. plus, I don't want Mino to be stressed. I want him to be him. as for Seungyoon, I know he can handle being the leader. 👏
When Seunghoon shared that he's never been Number 1 in his life.. little did he know, it's just the first number 1 that he'll ever be. WINNER's been slaying so bad the term Number 1 seems a bit overrated now.. hahaha!
이거 매화마다 눈물난다 진짜 너무 어린애들 대리고 고생시키는 것 같고 저 어린 나이에 저렇게 열심히 노력하는게 아이돌만큼 편한 직업 없다고 무시하는 사람들보면 정말 화난다. 고등학생 때 나름 학교에서 SKY 추천서도 써주는 학생이었는데 (목표가 초등교사라서 교대 진학했지만) 내가 노력한 수준은 저 영상에 담긴 친구들의 노력의 반의 반도 안되는 것 같은데 아이돌이 편하다고 하시는 분들은 다 판검사 하시는 분들이신가..
에이팀 애들보다 압박에 대한 내성이 좀 약한 거 같음. 물론 그 열정이 비뚤게 나아간 것은 지탄받아야 하지만 그 압박감을 생각해보면 안타깝기도 함.. 그리고 양싸가 마케팅전략을 너무 악랄하게 짰음, 어차피 윈으로 에이팀애들 데뷔시키고 좀 이따 당연히 비팀 애들 데뷔시킬 거였는데 또 서바이벌 시키면서 애들을 정신적으로 너무 녹초를 만들어놓은 게 아닌가 하는 생각. 그리고 오히려 서바이벌 한 번 더 해버리면서 이미지 소비가 더 돼버림. 옆동네 투피엠 투에이엠처럼 비슷한 시기 데뷔했으면 더 시너지가 나지 않았을까 하는 생각도 해 봄
i think what B.I really meant and felt when he said what he said at 40:17 was that for him, it is like your hyungs or your team, and it was hard, but because he is the team leader, regardless of how hurt he was to have to compete with his hyungs and defeat them for his team to win, he will still do it for the sake of his team. both of the leaders are my favourites but they make me cry the most. //sigh//
I get goosebumps watching the process and hearing what the Team B members have to say about their performance Climax. Little did they know they'll be making one of the greatest kpop performance ever.
"A fan went to her grandma's grave and saw Donghyuk's dad section with ikon's album with the message 'to the dad that i love! these are the members i will be with from now onwards^^' twitter.com/ikonphilippines/status/696182147883794436 a fan went by his father's gravesite a few months ago and saw a "Welcome Back" album sitting in the box :') just like he promised
Mugiwara98 oh LOOL my bad. How come I've seen someone say that the member in pentagon was meant to be in ikon but didn't make it? I'm just really confused aha
김 태흉 yahhh u got it a lil mixed up. Hongseok from pentagon as a trainee went on mix and match to be in ikon but he didn't make it. So now he is pentagon..i hope that cleared up ur confusion :)
it's 2020 and I'm watching this all over again. I really wish that both IKON and WINNER will have a project together..and I meant all of them including Hanbin (B.I.) and Nam Taehyun. It will be EPIC! for sure^^ and oh, please include Dara Park in it, because i love her so much! I hope someone sees my comment and considers it haha
seungyoon and B.i are perfect leaders for their own group. kindhearted seungyoon and strong charismatic B.i..i♡ them both!!! their charisma is overwhelming! i remember reading a news about those kpop groups with charismatic leaders and they both in there with GDRAGON ofcourse!!!
The storytelling of WIN and Mix n Match and how you get to know each person at such a deeper level...like watching a kdrama is so much better quality than Treasure Box....yes they have so many people...but even when they were eliminated and can concentrate on less boys...the storylines were not as compelling...those boys have talent but felt like WIN era was special.....especially Team B for me...their determination to go after their dream...to the point where they quit school and waged their whole youth on debuting together...so many tearful moments...adorable moments....real moments...inspirational
"We'll be proving that we're Korea's top class artists" - Hoony Yes dear, Winner's class is oozing💙 Korea's boy group known for Trust &Listen title for all ages. I'm so proud of you 😍
I kinda understand why B.I said what he said about not letting their friendship with team A get in the way. I mean, he says "I'm the leader..." and at that time, B.I has been the leader of team B for over 3 years by then and Seungwoon had been the leader for like only a month (I'm guessing). So B.I had more experience with guiding his members and thinking about the future of his group while Seungwoon had only started to feel like he was the one guiding the group. So, what I want to really point out is that B.I spent way more time thinking about the welfare of his group so that was probably what was on his mind. Like "I can't let even friendship get in the way of the future of my group". I don't know, I'm just trying to give my thoughts (2 cents) on this topic cause just like everyone even I was found it to be really harsh. But after contemplating, I realized this could be the reason.
I love Bobby so much, my eyes keep searching for him in there. Hanbin is so great as a leader especially when he said "I never once thought we'd lose" at 24:58. I love Team B but I knew Team A would win from the start.
To be exact, he said as a team leader I cannot and will not let my team lose. So hes holding back his feelings and think about his team first. True leadership priorities. I respect that.
Thuy Linh Do I think is because they said as a different role, yoon talked in his role as himself and as a friend, and BI talked for his role as a leader so it's clear they will talked differently
I have such a soft spot for Seung Yoon and Tae Hyun. They're so kind and humble, and they're natural with themselves. :) I'll support them to the moon and back! Go Team A & Team B!!!
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난 데뷔 초부터 진짜 이해할 수 없는 말이 위너나 아이콘이나 대형소속사빨로 편하게 데뷔하고 잘됐다는거ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ그런 말 하는 사람들은 이런 거 전혀 모르고 하는 말이겠지? 어느 회사에서 연습생한테 작사작곡안무 다 시키냐 맨날 같이 연습하던 사이좋은 애들 두 팀으로 갈라서 데뷔할래 군대갈래 이 ㅈㄹ하는 곳도 싸이코패스같고 저 어린애들한테 너무 잔인하다 이 서바이벌하는동안 잠이나 제대로 잤겠냐..다들 대형 들어갈만한 실력이고 데뷔하기까지 그리고 현재까지 안쓰러울정도로 열심히 살았다 둘 다 잘됐으면
정말 공감되는 댓글...
@@밥밥디라라-b1g ㄹㅇ.. 저렇게 고생했는데 짧은 시간도 아니고 연습생도 꽤 오래했는데 퇴출이라니..ㅋㅋㅋ
편하게 데뷔한 건 아니지만 저 당시에는 yg 힘을 입은 건 사실임. 옛날에 쇼미더머니 나왔을 때도 회사 얘기 엄청 했던 것 같은데. 위너 아이콘만이 아니라 인지도 있는 기획사 소속 가수들이라면 회사 네임밸류로 인해 추가적으로 득을 볼 수 밖에 없음 그 사람들이 회사빨은 아니어도.
ㅇㅈ yg 자체가 실력인증인데 회사빨이라고 욕하는 사람들 보면 윈, 슈스케, 케이팝스타, 믹스앤매치 다 보여주고 싶음 그리고 yg 실력으로는 절대 못 깐다 타그룹 보면 진짜 비교돼서 와이쥐 한번 빠지면 못 빠져나옴
애초에 와이지 못들어가는 애들이 하는소리임 쟤넨 와이지 들어올 실력ㅇ 잇는애들이고 이딴소리 하는애들은 걍 중소기업 딱 그 그릇인걸 왜 자꾸 대형기업 애들한테 얘넨 시작부터 좋앗다 이지랄하는지
Donghyuk looked so happy and cheerful in the car when he was on his way to see his dad then it got to the scene where he was buying something for his dad and i thought "aw thats so cute" and then i saw that he walked in THAT kind of room and it hit me SO HARD I NEEDED TO PAUSE TO STOP MY TEARS T-T
Me too omg :(
+perigryn guinday these were exactly my thoughts :O i feel u so well!
+perigryn guinday It was so unexpected that I just burst into tears immediately ㅠ_ㅠ Tearing up now just remembering!
omg. me too. TT.TT
i read ur comment b4 watching and was like, why would u cry if it's a reunion..
but after i watched that part, i cant stop crying..
i could feel u
+perigryn guinday I REALISED IT AS SOON AS HE CAME INTO THE FLOWER SHOP , BUYING THOSE TYPE OF FLOWERS... I JUST .NOPE
I was so moved when I heard Seungyoon say those words at the end, how he really wanted this but he didn't want to step on Team B's efforts either. He's really dependable and maturedㅠㅠ
난 위너팬도 아닌데 옛날 이 배틀영상보면서 매회마다 울고있음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 정말 눈물나게 열심히 했구나..
인생챙겨 마!
이렇게 열심히해놓고 동생 엄마까지 감성팔면서 데뷔해놓고 약쟁이행 에휴..
@@ddd-ef7lq ...?누가,,?
@@한지현-e2u 남태현
BI is truly a leader. When he speaks even the hyungs listens to him. He always have the right/inspirational words to say.
Yes its 2020 and im binge watching win era. I miss Hanbin.
😔
I know right! Hanbin-ah you such a great person and such a precious thing that we really need in music industry, Hope you have great future and I still hope that you'll comeback to iKON , were here to support you everywhere you go! Kim Hanbin (B.I) borahaeee 😔💜✨
2021 still here 😅😅
@@vipikonic8976 sameeeee🤣🤣🤣💔😭😭I miss b.i ..🌛💔
And its currently 2021 still watching😁
강승윤 마음이 너무 예쁘다..
지금 다시 정주행중인데 진짜 위너만한 내가수가 없다
정말로 고맙고 뿌듯하고 보고있으면 행복해 그냥
Hanbin trying hard not to cry and holdin back his tear...but we can see how his eyes turn reddish...awwww our 17y/o leader...too many responsibilities on his shoulder
Totally agree, his eyes looked so sad while he was trying to keep strong saying he didn't want their friendship with TeamA to get in the way. KSY also broke my heart.
yaaas haayss B.I. :(
아이콘 위너 둘다 데뷔를 할수 있어서 참 다행이라는 생각이 든다 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ만약 진짜 해체됬으면 진짜 ...무엇보다도 해체된 팀 애들이 어땠을지 상상이 안감 얼마나 죽을힘을 다해서 달려왔는지를 보면 ㅠㅠ 둘다 응원해
마지막에 인터뷰 하면서 강승윤 우는거 맘 아프네.. 보석함 보다가 정화하러 왓음 2018
슈스케때 떨어지면서도 안녕히계세용~ 이러면서 웃으며 내려갔던 승윤이였는데.. 마지막 인터뷰에서 우는걸 보고 너무 맘 여리고 착하다는게 느껴진다ㅠㅠ 승유니 진짜 아낀다 격하게ㅠㅠ
did anyone else cry when Donghyuk went to see his dad? and in the previous episode where the members were thanking B.I and Jinhwan
I'm so happy that Team B also get to debut as iKon, I thank YG to bring those boys to their dreams. Their parents must be so proud of them.
I thought I was the only one that cried.
Same ^^^^
Seungyoon is so humble. He wants to win but at the same time he doesn't want to beat team B...
he always thinks that B.I can always make him jealous of his abilities at a younger age than him, and once said that no matter how hard he tries to be better than B.I ,he always feels B.I is far better than him... I think that's the reason why he feels bad when his team wins
Nana kwonji he never said that he thinks B.I is far better than him lmao, he said that B.I is so good that he feels like he's never good enough. He felt bad for winning because he's a sweet lil angel who didn't wanna be the one to make Team B sad.
@@txmilxssi7803 seunghyun once said his hope of being a singer is to make people cry and laugh when they listen to his song, at that time the final who is next everyone was made to cry because the song created by hanbin "climax" do you remember it?... YG also praised hanbin talent ,, maybe even everyone knows hanbin is very young at the time ... but his ability to envy his hyungs including seunghyun ... (that's what I caught from his words )... about the word "far better" that is only my personal opinion does not mean that seunghyun is not great ... but B.I is awesome child in my opinion....
I really admire it ... I also really like Mino winners ... I don't know what you mean to write "lmao" Are you Hanbin's hetter?
Nana kwonji first of all his name is Seungyoon not Seunghyun lol And no im not a B.I hater, I'm an ikonic, and Hanbin is my bias! But Seungyoon never called hanbin "far better" he just said that he's impressed by him and he sometimes feels he's not good enough because of how amazing B.I is which is very different from saying "he's far better". Anyway, it's no big deal, have a good day
@@txmilxssi7803 I really admire B.I very much ... and I have corrected my writing about "far better", please re-read ... far better is my personal opinion, it does not mean that seungyoon is not great ... ok, whatever it's called seungyoon seunghyun, I don't care ... ok have nice day ...
와 강승윤 인성이ㅠㅠㅠㅠ갓이다 ㅠㅠ
its almost been 3years already but i really wanna say that winner always look classy without even tryin, their style is really diff from other idols. they deserve to be winner & ikon was meant to be ikon. both groups are really talented & stylish!! thanks YG for noticing their talents! 🙆
Who else cried when Donghyuk went to go see his dad?
I legit thought there was going to be some happy reunion in some apartment...
And then I saw this familiar scene....
And I burst out crying TT_TT
+Telekinetic Chase same.
+Telekinetic Chase My heart dropped because I thought "Oh wow is he in the hospital?" Then he goes into the room and I fell apart.
when he entered that room, my heart dropped as well. 😢
Did anyone feel annoyed that a camera followed him into the room? I felt that it was invading his privacy and for once when he visit his father after a year, shouldn't they give him some time on his own to talk to his father without cameras or any other people near him?
mee :(
I'm an IGOT7, ELF etc(multifandom). But BI just blows my mind away every time he speaks. The level of maturity and realness he had/has is so overwhelming. He is one of the most hardworking people out there who has had to fight for every little accomplishment and yet rarely gets the recognition. He has been forced to walk in someone else's shoes and given so much responsibility and been criticized like hell. Yet he stands up to do what he does best and that's music! Give the child some love seriously!!
이런 끼많은 애들을... 다 데뷔 시켰음 다 활동시키고 많이 곡 내주고 그만큼 책임져야지 양싸야
2018년 11월 28일 송민호 솔로 아낙네..전 음원사이트 1위입니다..ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
지금 딱 이 상황이네요...
I love that when Taehyun, Mino, and Seungyoon composed 3 different tracks all of them sounded so different. I'm excited for the variety in their future songs! XD
^this
winner totally has different colour individually in a group ^^
+KaikiTsuki49 mino's track sounds angry bcs he lost his prev track LOL
+shenas mudjiono He didn't save his prev track. LOL
***** i like to see he is getting angry bcause he was angry in the cute way
I really like BI. He's real.
Same here ... I've fallen in love with BI from the first time I saw WIN and Team B have Won my heart and attention, especially BI until Right now...😍😍😍
@@amaliahanbiniKONXiKONICS thank you for loving hanbin. he deserves all the love :(
I miss hanbin
벤토리 ur late with the news. He’s proven negative
@@감자콤이 What century are you living in, dude?? Have time go on YT gave the false statement, but don't get time to update the news? Such a hater.
이때승윤이 말하는거참예뻤는데♥♥♥
지금까지도 한결같이 참 이쁘더군요~말이나 행동이 늘 한결같은 사람~인성갑
비아이 보면 볼수록 매력있다 범죄자 옹호하는 건 아닌데 저때의 그 열정과 책임감
مجرم ف مكوتك
Dia bukan penjahat
맞아요.. 진짜 팀전체가 따라오게끔 하는 진심과 리더십 자체가 너무 대단함
윈과 믹매에서 보여준 비아이 모습은 정말 매력있고 멋있음
파이널배틀의 마지막무대에서 비아이가 독백랩을 안했더라면 저는 데뷔가 더 늦춰질수도있었다고생각해요 근데 거기서 양현석도 얘네도 무조건 대뷔시킨다라고 100%마음 굳혔던것같아요
강승윤..마지막인터뷰에서 져도 싫고 이겨도 싫다는 말이 저 때 저 경쟁이 얼마나 힘들었는지를 보여주는 말이다. 양현석은 관종이라 가족같은 애들을 경쟁시키는 악덕사장..
이거 맞는말 어차피 지가 맘에드는 핵심멤들 있었으면서 애들 고름짜내면서 지가 재밌어서 하는 쇼같음
Seungyoon is such a sweetheart, he cares about Team B feelings as well :/
if you haven't been a leader you will never understand Hanbins attitude I understand him it's so hard that your team members who were also young let go of their school all have high hope and as a leader you cannot feel down you have to keep fighting or else they will also feel down..I'm so impressed at young age he went through all of these and still surviving Keep Fighting Hanbin I love both Winner and iKON 💓💓💓
🧡🧡
둘 다 너무 고생했다 위너, 아이콘 앞으로 더 흥했으면 좋겠다
비아이가 한 말이 왜이렇게 마음이 아프냐.. 딴 사람들은 어떤지 몰라도 제가 리더이기 때문에 제 팀을 지게 할 수는 없다니 참...
저 때의 책임감만큼은 정말 너무 대단해 어린 나이에 작사 작곡 춤 편곡 등등 ..하
왜케 비아이를 힘들게 한건지
I'm late here but I don't see arrogance in Hanbin, I see confidence. That confidence is what made ikon, ikon. He had to pull out the best of his members. Yoon polished his members. He brought the unification so to speak. To me, Yoon is more levelheaded but that does not equate to Hanbin being immature. Ikon would have fell apart without Hanbin at the helm and that's facts.
All that said, Yoon is thinking as a big bro to everyone. I want to give him a big ass hug hes so sweet. Hanbin was thinking as a leader for his guys because if they lose he failed. He failed them. What Yoon was worried about is exactly what Hanbin was worried about. In a way, outside of Jinwoo and Taehyun, the rest would have been okay. All of ikon would be dismantled.
oh gosh when he was talking about visiting his dad i felt happy for him but when he sat down and i realized what he meant, i choked up. :(
omg same here. I think my heart broke a bit cause i was just like "awww he's going to see his dad" and then it was like.."oh.... ;-;"
I like Minho's reaction when his song gone beacuse of the computer went off =)))
ｉＫｒ Ｓｏ ｆｕｎｎｙＸＤ
진짜 두 팀 모두 대박이었지만 climax는 매번 울게한다 ㅠㅠ 최고야 노래
I feel that the words Hanbin said at 24:55 were words that *should* be said as a leader given that situation. He did such a great job and if you've have been appointed an important leadership position, you'd understand what i mean. His team members were feeling down and he picked them up and gave them confidence to continue to move forward, which is what a good leader would have done. Hanbin is honestly such a great leader and it must be hard on him to juggle so many things at such young age. Some people might find him arrogant and overly competitive but i don't think that is the case at all. I feel that many of the things he said may not 100% reflect his true feelings because i'm sure he must have been worried at some point. But since he is their leader, he can't show them that side of him and so he hides it :( He's human after all, and only a teenager at age 17 during WIN, which i think many people tend to forget. I really look up to him for his diligence, work ethics, passion, determination and so much more.
I feel you. people are being to ruthless towards him. I mean, he's only 17 and has his dream right in front of him.i respect Seungyun,but people shouldn't compare hanbin to him, he's like 20 something. honestly, I think hanbin is doing an awesome job at it and is a seriously good leader. and he's so good looking as well *_* *sorry can't control my fangirling*
+Ngawang Dheden when this is airing KSY only 19 or 20 yrs old according to Korean's tradition
True
I feel like crying after reading this considering what happened recently with Hanbin
또한번 느끼는건데 정말 착하다 아이콘 애기들❤️
well, BI is always looking so stylish. even with a simple white tee he still looks good..he is an all round entertainer..
Period
🤭
Jinhwan: great nighttime voice
Sorry but I need you to prove that to me ;) tonight sounds good
얼마나 고생했는지를 아니까 더 응원할 수 밖에 없다 특히 위너..다들 착하고 여린데 많이 응원하고 있어 항상 남태현도 이때만큼은 정말 진심이었고 열정이 가득해 보여서 멋짐 너무
How could mino still smile after his work was all gone??? If that was me I would cry my heart out and spit every harsh words i know. And admit it, seungyoon hugging jinhwan when taking the group picture is the cutest thing ever
hehe' true! 😅
다 데뷔해서 정말 다행이다..ㅠㅠ 다만 양싸 일좀 더 시켰으면 ;;
Watching again...and still amazed at what awesome leadership B.I had at such a young age of 16...he was bold, spoke his truth, and chased after his and his team's dream...with no apologies.
When Hanbin said that Taehyun doesn’t fit YG’s style when they first saw his audition video. It breaks my heart because I kinda agree with Hanbin. Even Taehyun himself said that he had to change his singing style so that it can fit into YG’s standards. Now Taehyun left due to mental illness and I think it’s sad because during Win you can actually see Taehyun getting stressed so much, I mean changing who you are and molding yourself into something you’re not will really take a hit in you. I’m ranting because Taehyun was the reason I gave Winner a chance and when I finally became a fan I find out that he already left gosh it hurts. Anyway I wish him all the best and will continue to support Winner and Taehyun’s new group. I do hope that he’s happy with what he is doing now, he’s just so precious and talented, he deserves the world ❤️
I actually am rewatching WIN again and whilst googling about him now. Kinda feel sad if we remember how stressed and struggling during WIN era for all members.
WIN은 ㄹㅇ강승윤인성입덕방송같음
ㄹㅇ
ㅇㅈ
I prefer the fun and jolly Minho than the serious leader Minho. I really think that it is meant to be that Seungyoon is the leader now. plus, I don't want Mino to be stressed. I want him to be him. as for Seungyoon, I know he can handle being the leader. 👏
even now, this is true. they all fit in their roles so well and both groups are doing better than ever :"))
와...내기준 아이콘 레전드곡인 클라이맥스가 이렇게만들어진거였어
데뷔해줘서고맙고 항상 응원하고있어 아이콘 사랑..한다ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 화이팅!!
Bobby at 24:42 - "What if we don't become WINNER"
Me : "You'll become iKON 😍"
Yeah, big yes.
😁😁😁
When I watched in past I cried. But when I watched it now I'm laughing so hard 😂😂😂
@@dinimunawar1997 me too😁, though sad that B.I is no longer in iKON☹️
The scene where both team talk about what will happen to their pictures is bitter sweet
진짜 존나잔인하게 데뷔한게 위너랑 아이콘임 서로버티면서 연습생시절 보냈는데 한순간에 경쟁자로 만나면 마음이 어떻겠냐;;;
ㄹㅇ.. 파이널 직전에도 다같이 모여서 먹게하고..ㅜㅜ
When Seunghoon shared that he's never been Number 1 in his life.. little did he know, it's just the first number 1 that he'll ever be. WINNER's been slaying so bad the term Number 1 seems a bit overrated now.. hahaha!
Muznah 'Ena' rip english
+Ena Muznah what?
+Anthony R lol
@@Ena2010 I'm late but wth 😂😂😂
이거 매화마다 눈물난다 진짜 너무 어린애들 대리고 고생시키는 것 같고 저 어린 나이에 저렇게 열심히 노력하는게 아이돌만큼 편한 직업 없다고 무시하는 사람들보면 정말 화난다. 고등학생 때 나름 학교에서 SKY 추천서도 써주는 학생이었는데 (목표가 초등교사라서 교대 진학했지만) 내가 노력한 수준은 저 영상에 담긴 친구들의 노력의 반의 반도 안되는 것 같은데 아이돌이 편하다고 하시는 분들은 다 판검사 하시는 분들이신가..
18:36 Hanbin's suddenly wearing the shirt Bobby had on just a few seconds a go aww
omg
i didn't notice it
My double b heart ❤️💔
I respect B.I because he's literally doing everything for his team from composing the song to choreography :/
Uri leader 🧡
THAT GIRL WHO FREAKED OUT AND SAID "NAM TAEHYUN YOU'RE SO HANDSOME" IS ME LMAO
noway hhhh :p :p
who SAME
i can feel the love from team A...maybe that is why voters can emphatize with them more...and kang seung yoon is such great and kind
비아이 너무 아쉽다 저렇게 열정 넘치고 리더쉽 있어서 좋아했는데.. 아이돌로서 진짜 성공하고 바른 길 걸었으면 얼마나 좋았을까
에이팀 애들보다 압박에 대한 내성이 좀 약한 거 같음. 물론 그 열정이 비뚤게 나아간 것은 지탄받아야 하지만 그 압박감을 생각해보면 안타깝기도 함..
그리고 양싸가 마케팅전략을 너무 악랄하게 짰음, 어차피 윈으로 에이팀애들 데뷔시키고 좀 이따 당연히 비팀 애들 데뷔시킬 거였는데 또 서바이벌 시키면서 애들을 정신적으로 너무 녹초를 만들어놓은 게 아닌가 하는 생각. 그리고 오히려 서바이벌 한 번 더 해버리면서 이미지 소비가 더 돼버림.
옆동네 투피엠 투에이엠처럼 비슷한 시기 데뷔했으면 더 시너지가 나지 않았을까 하는 생각도 해 봄
아무래도 에이팀보다 평균나이 2살 적게 시작했으니깐.. 저 나이때에 2살이면 성숙함의 차이가 압도적이지
왜 어린 나이의 한빈이한테 그렇게 까지 버거운
짐을 지게 했을까 혼자서 얼마나 힘들었을까
믹매에서 비아이 혼자 잠적해서 한강갔다왔는데 진짜 얼마나 힘들었으면 잠적할생각까지 했을까
윈하고 쇼미나갔다가 믹매까지 서바이벌을 3번이나했으니 애 몸이랑 마음이 둘다 많이 지쳐있는게 당연했지 그래도 밝은모습보여주는게 그나마 마음이 놓인다
i think what B.I really meant and felt when he said what he said at 40:17 was that for him, it is like your hyungs or your team, and it was hard, but because he is the team leader, regardless of how hurt he was to have to compete with his hyungs and defeat them for his team to win, he will still do it for the sake of his team.
both of the leaders are my favourites but they make me cry the most. //sigh//
bobby and hanbin together is so cute!
I get goosebumps watching the process and hearing what the Team B members have to say about their performance Climax. Little did they know they'll be making one of the greatest kpop performance ever.
Ikonics crying anthem.
i feel that if 11 of them were to be in one team, BI would still be their leader.
yeaa
@Milkyshooky Milky won't you shut up?
30:43 Mino sitting on Bobby's lap? I ship it.
+synysterjazmyngates Mino and Bobby together, my life is complete.
+synysterjazmyngates 32:58 Mino grabbing Bobby's leg!! ^^
+93intoxicated Check their collab later. 😂❤️
Guess who just got back from the dead??
HAHAHHAHAHA dead after MOBB's MVs release
synysterjazmyngates and B.I has his back to them. Probably it is hard for him to see Bobby with Mino 🙈
dong hyuk :( that scene shocked me I was expecting a totally different scene ahh :(
"A fan went to her grandma's grave and saw Donghyuk's dad section with ikon's album with the message 'to the dad that i love! these are the members i will be with from now onwards^^'
twitter.com/ikonphilippines/status/696182147883794436
a fan went by his father's gravesite a few months ago and saw a "Welcome Back" album sitting in the box :') just like he promised
Mugiwara98 not relevant, but didn't donghyuk not make it into ikon??? I stg he debuted on the 10th this month with Pentagon? Or am I mistaken??
김 태흉 no, you've mistaken him with Hongseok haha Donghyuk is in iKON while Hongseok is in Pentagon. :)
Mugiwara98 oh LOOL my bad. How come I've seen someone say that the member in pentagon was meant to be in ikon but didn't make it? I'm just really confused aha
김 태흉 yahhh u got it a lil mixed up. Hongseok from pentagon as a trainee went on mix and match to be in ikon but he didn't make it. So now he is pentagon..i hope that cleared up ur confusion :)
can we just appreciate the fangirl who came in a hanbok and bowed down to them and then again to the camera ! she's so cute hehe
it's 2020 and I'm watching this all over again. I really wish that both IKON and WINNER will have a project together..and I meant all of them including Hanbin (B.I.) and Nam Taehyun. It will be EPIC! for sure^^ and oh, please include Dara Park in it, because i love her so much! I hope someone sees my comment and considers it haha
seungyoon and B.i are perfect leaders for their own group. kindhearted seungyoon and strong charismatic B.i..i♡ them both!!! their charisma is overwhelming! i remember reading a news about those kpop groups with charismatic leaders and they both in there with GDRAGON ofcourse!!!
I had never laughed so much until that girl wearing hanbok appeared hahahahaha
me, too
I love how determined hanbin was at a young age.
I really love Hanbin style.. he's really cool.. from the beginning until now.. I must be crazy because his smile..
*sorryformybadenglish*
KSY truly is the nicest most thoughtful person here T_T
He is!!!! Up until now he's still the nicest and most thoughful 💙 truly the best boy 😭💙
One thing i really like about ikon is the way they think.. positivity makes a whole load of difference
Ah, KSY's tear is so sad...he experienced very cruel survival show 3 years ago when he was 16, so he does understand what it means deeply.
데뷔도 안햇었는데 저때도 팬 많닼ㅋㅋ 역시 양현석 큰그림 이런 방송을 하는 이유가 잇엇엌ㅋㅋ
I really loved when all Team A and B members sit together and talk about first impressions.... such a lovely moment.
Kang Seung Yoon u really have a golden heart. ❤️
KSY is a genius!
Well these kids are all so talented anyway, YG never disappoints us!
Party on the roof top is my favorite!
어릴때부터 너무 고생많았다 앞으로 더더 잘되면 좋겠어
Bobby and B.I are best friend goals💫👌💜
Idk I was crying when they had the bbq party together I tried not to I swear but it was just too sweet, 11 brothers..
진짜 다 이렇게 피눈물나도록 노력해서 데뷔하는구나.. 방송 보고 나니까 더 대단해보인다
I really wanted to hear the full versions of Team A songs made that time,they sounded so good and different
Miky M yessss! esp Seungyoon's Today! :D
+Miky M Which one? Where does it start?
CLIMAX .
this word even in 2016, still has a different feel to it. you did it, boys. you did it.
아 윈콘 케미 개웃긴다ㅠㅋㅌㅌㅌ 바비 혼자 마이크 달았나 목소리 개큼 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 윈콘 다 같이 예능 나와줬으면 좋겠다 ㅠㅠ
아 진짜로ㅜㅜㅠㅠㅠ 오랜만에 win 돌려보는데 동혁이ㅠㅠㅜㅠㅜ 어케ㅠㅠㅡ진짜 효자야ㅜㅜㅡ
나는 이 편이 제일 좋더라ㅜㅜ
팬분들이랑 만나는 것ㄷ느 좋고
마지막 멈버들끼리 대화하는 것도 좋다ㅜ
저때 위너를 좋아했던건 아니라서
탈퇴한 멤버에 안 좋은 감정이 크지는
않는데 요즘 또 논란 뜨는걸 보면 눈물나네ㅜㅜ
이때나 지금이나 비아이가 만든 노래 완전 좋네 클라이막스는 다시 보고 또 봐도 매번 소름이 돋을 정도로 좋음👍
The storytelling of WIN and Mix n Match and how you get to know each person at such a deeper level...like watching a kdrama is so much better quality than Treasure Box....yes they have so many people...but even when they were eliminated and can concentrate on less boys...the storylines were not as compelling...those boys have talent but felt like WIN era was special.....especially Team B for me...their determination to go after their dream...to the point where they quit school and waged their whole youth on debuting together...so many tearful moments...adorable moments....real moments...inspirational
"We'll be proving that we're Korea's top class artists" - Hoony
Yes dear, Winner's class is oozing💙
Korea's boy group known for Trust &Listen title for all ages. I'm so proud of you 😍
My heart literally dropped when I saw donghyuk go visit his dad. I was not expecting that at all. Rest in peace donghyuk's dad.😔😇🙏🏽
I kinda understand why B.I said what he said about not letting their friendship with team A get in the way. I mean, he says "I'm the leader..." and at that time, B.I has been the leader of team B for over 3 years by then and Seungwoon had been the leader for like only a month (I'm guessing). So B.I had more experience with guiding his members and thinking about the future of his group while Seungwoon had only started to feel like he was the one guiding the group. So, what I want to really point out is that B.I spent way more time thinking about the welfare of his group so that was probably what was on his mind. Like "I can't let even friendship get in the way of the future of my group". I don't know, I'm just trying to give my thoughts (2 cents) on this topic cause just like everyone even I was found it to be really harsh. But after contemplating, I realized this could be the reason.
I miss uri leader 🧡
Out of both teams Bobby and mino are the closest friends I've ever seen. Their friendship is super cute
I love Bobby so much, my eyes keep searching for him in there. Hanbin is so great as a leader especially when he said "I never once thought we'd lose" at 24:58. I love Team B but I knew Team A would win from the start.
I cried when Donghyuk went to visit his dad... 25:29 - 27:42
I could not stop my tears from falling... My DongDong is a strong boy
the last words from two leaders are so different. One said I'd feel bad even if we win as Winner. One said I wouldn't let friendship get in that way..
To be exact, he said as a team leader I cannot and will not let my team lose. So hes holding back his feelings and think about his team first. True leadership priorities. I respect that.
Thuy Linh Do I think is because they said as a different role, yoon talked in his role as himself and as a friend, and BI talked for his role as a leader so it's clear they will talked differently
연습생이 이정도면 .... 역시 yg
The reason why I love Seungyoon. 💙
omg. song min ho, his face look like gdragon+taeyang. 😍
and T.O.P's voice... epic combination
but act like seungri
and appeal like daesung lol 😂
min ho 2016 just wow his lyrics gives me a 👻 💣.. figthing song minho labyu 😘
even tablo said that too...😂😂
son of gd and yb😁
It's so cute that they all wanted to debut together.
Their bond is beautiful
i love seungyoon so much for saying "please love all of us" 😭😭💕💕
i wish WINNER would release "Today"!! it sounds like an amazing song.
바비는 진짜 센스작렬
타이밍에 강한 듯ㅋ
마지막곡 전체 컨셉이랑 제목
슬~쩍ㅋ
비아이를 완벽하게 받쳐 주네^^
I have such a soft spot for Seung Yoon and Tae Hyun. They're so kind and humble, and they're natural with themselves. :) I'll support them to the moon and back! Go Team A & Team B!!!
i cant stop crying when the CLIMAX song being played 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
한빈이 엄청귀여웠었네... 동글동글함