This happens with every Zen generation. Bad value initially due to the enticing prices of the two-year-old CPUs, but once that stock is liquidated and new gen prices dip below MSRP, the new generation offers better value.
I wouldn't knock efficiency to hard. Instead of pulling an Intel and just cranking up the juice, they're making better chips that, while the may perform about the same as the 7xxx's are doing so with less power. That's a technological win in my book. I wonder what peak overclocking would look like...
there is a TON of performance headroom though - if you switch on PBO (automatic), allowing the cpu to use a bit more power, it spanks. they just went super conservative with how much power they're giving it.
@@resident.fromohio yes, but I would think that's obvious given that the 5600x is 2 generations old and on a platform with significantly lower memory bandwidth.
@@BargateEither optimizations are needed or we have yet to see more games use its power. Linus benchmark with 1080p low and 4090 without overclock shows that cpu is ahead of than last gen ofc that's on cpu heavy types like Esports in triple A the difference to marginal
I don't know what he mentions. Greater Power efficiency is always good for the customer. I hope for a few non X Versions later on. We need more capable 65 w CPUs for gaming!
More efficiency means less heating and power wastage so possibly would result in better days for mini PCs/Laptops Also AMD needs to step up their game in laptops and this could be their W move.
They are extremely efficient. They are just tuned for low power comsumption out of the box, it does not mean that it cant be set to higher power. Set them to the same limit of 142w ppt, and they have way more performance, and it gets 23000-25000 points in cinebench r23, which is not bad at all. They are just too efficient out of the box, but the architectural changes are there. You just got to give the a little more room.
Power efficiency is a big deal. Sff cases can easily keep those things cool. We don't need bigger and better!! Consolidation and optimization is mandatory!!!! Nvidia keeps saying this is better while making their gpus the size of a truck.
Do you do any build it yourself builds I want to learn to build a pc with my dad and I really want to at least get the option or for you to just see this I think it’s a pretty good idea for those who watch you but can’t afford the prebuilt price
I think this gen is a preparation for the next gen. Because then they gonna give the cores more power. And with the actual performance per Watt they are gonna be really strong. My Opinion. What do you guys think?
In places where power is getting more and more expensive, these chips getting the same (and in some cases better) performance than the previous generation while consuming LESS power is a win.
As a laptop gamer, this trend of power efficiency with the 9000 series and the 4060 makes me happy. The days where laptop components have half the performance of desktop components are almost over. Also even for a desktop, it's nice to have a more power efficient chip. It means lower temps, easier to cool, lower fan noise, your room doesn't heat up like an oven, your electricity bill is lower, and you're saving the planet (jk). Power efficiency is a very underrated quality of life feature.
I bought a 7600x 3 months ago, was worried I might have been missing out on a massive upgrade but seems like waiting that long for zen5 isn’t worth it. Likely my best upgrade would probably be the 9800x3d years down the line. It’ll be interesting to see how that measures against current x3d cpus
Zach the point is, keeping your motherboard and upgrading only the cpu (big buying point for am5) is not really a good idea as too many generations and the motherboard simply will not be able to handle newer chips. For 1-2 generations probably, but motherboard components will not be able to handle newer chips because of components such as the VRMs
Hey Zach, I have been your videos since my PC journey started. I am new to PC world my PSU don't have 8 pin connector for my GPU can I plug in 6 pin and 2 pin (both separate pins ) together in a single 8 pin connector in GPU ? I was using rx 470 before but now I am moving to gtx 1660ti. Tell me pls than I will buy GPU accordingly
in comparison to an incremental intel generation, this is great. at least some difference in performance is good, but honestly having a much lower tdp chip is really nice. maybe we can pair a 9900x with a low profile cooler now, which we couldnt do with the 7900x. not to mention getting that as well as a lower price is just a nice bonus. i think of the 9000 series like the gpx 2. not an upgrade but more of an update.
At that point buy a ryzen 4070 and have a pc with no cpu. I heard the integrated processor of the ryzen 4070 can get 120 fps in every game max settings
I think its the Drivers thats causing the performance issues because its a brand new CPU, probably give the drivers sometime to mature a bit and then there will be performance increases
Itd be interesting to see work load stuff on these as that could be a big win for the release. Personallyvwaiting on 9950X as full rig build as on laptop with 3000 in
I know I'll get flak for this, but I'm a Texan. TDP means something when your A/C is working its hardest and its 100° outside. I'm still running a 5800x, which has treated me very well so far. I might just consider upgrading for the sake of pulling some heat out of my office.
@@DeNoobGamer less cores = downgrade. I do a lot of binary compilation, video editing, and software rendering. I appreciate the sentiment, but this suggestion is counterintuitive in a few ways. The 5700x3d would cost something, even if it's affordable. Paying money for reduced performance (aside from a marginal gain on single threaded workloads) isn't a hobby of mine. I'm thinking I'll probably end up with a 9950x(3d if they release one) a year or so after they're released, and proven to be stable. Maybe if I only used my rig for games, but I don't.
@@Damola138 they're both 8 cores, but the 5700x3d has significantly lower boost clocks (~13% decrease). I will say I was wrong about the core count, but it's definitely not enough of a performance gain to warrant spending any money on it.
@logandoeslife You're right. 100% this is the best time to jump on AM5. Maybe even best waiting for x3d early next year and getting the 7800x3d at reduced cost.
LTT (I think) has said that they are overclockable to the same power usage of last gen, that way they get their max overclock and overall just better. So I guess 9th gen gives both better power saving and equal performance or same power and better performance
9700X OC enthusiast: 5,8GHz Expert might be already able to achieve 6GHz without LN2. But might require special BIOS. 6 GHz for the 9700X with LN2 seems very EZ to achieve.
Hey Zack please make a video about "best processors for productive workshop"😊😊. Actually I need a processor which will give me best performance per dollar in productive works like video editing, graphics designing etc.
Honestly I think AMD and Intel both need to have a round or two of new CPUs that focus on efficiency, even if performance doesn't rise much or even at all.
I need your help please I accidentally bent some of my motherboard pins and a can’t return it because it been more than 90 days is there any way to fix it
They left a lot of performance on table, so these oc really good even with turning on pbo and better when you manual oc. Had they pushed the chips loke last gen out of the box things would had been different.
Your bro needs help! I’m putting together a PC build and here’s what I have so far: Case: Montech X3 Mesh White with ARGB CPU Cooler: White ARGB to cool the Ryzen 5 5600 CPU: Ryzen 5 5600 GPU: RX 5700xt 8GB, which I found for $130 Motherboard: Full ATX AM4 Storage: 500GB M.2 nvme SSD and 1tb hdd RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz with ARGB PSU: 600W bronze 80 plus with clean white cable extensions Sourced alot of things from Ebay and sum stuff from from AliExpress so every thing costs me about 500 to 600 dollars. Given this setup and the price of the RX 5700xt, do you have any suggestions for improvements or alternative components? Thanks!
i was going to wait for 9000 series cpus but because when they launch they ll probably have some problems (as usual) and they’ll be too expensive thats why i ordered 7800x3d
I have a ryzen 5 5600gt paired with a rx 6800 core, but I've read that the pc might be bottlenecking due to the processor. Did the calculator lied to me? And if not What cpu would you recommend to pair my gpu with?
The benchmarks in Linus's test bench made the 9000 CPU and is better in some games but not in productively like blender where the i9 14900k is a master. The cpu also draws less power and less temperature.
I was always after the clean looks offered by MSI Project zero motherboard and was thinking of pairing it with a ryzen 9 9900x and rtx 4070 ti super. Is this combo a good choice?
Its not bad at all ! Its good to lower power consumption some time ! Cost less in electricity, less heat and you can overcloock more (from heat perspectives). If they didnt ever lower tdp there gonna do an intel thing were you are at 500 watt for a 95degres cpu with a 360aio
is the rx 7600 xt 16gb good if i want a just play games like cs, minecraft (with good shaders), forza 5, valheim... i get around 100 fps on bad graphics on my rx570 so i think this is a good upgrade.
Power efficiency is good for productivity tasks but during gaming it's like 5w less than the 7700x. For gaming this is basically a 7700x relaunch can't really suggest it.
I was considering getting the 9700x but sense I’m gonna to assume the 7000 series will drop along side the 9000 series launches imma just wait and see if I can snag a 7800x3D or a 7900x processor later down the road as I use my pc for Editing and streaming and I’m still on my 5600x which is getting the job done fine
Get desktop cpu because of workload maybe possible 7900x3d but 7900x does its job 7800x3d is mainly for gaming i have 5800x3d and its slow when editing videos but its up to you if u arent regular editor/streamer
Most games they benchmark are un optimized PlayStation games while cpu cpu upgrade is more relevant to competitive games like cs2 valorant pubg fortnite etc.. only one competitive game was there and after taking average they call it flop cpu..
Day 20 of asking: Yooooo ZTT! Do you have any idea how I can convince my parents to give me a mid-end pc, that I can build... I am a 13-year-old who really likes pc, I'm trying to build a server for my Plex.. and btw. For Minecraft also.
I'm still on DDR4 I'll take power efficiency but at a reasonable price. I bought the last get on DDR4 cause it was cheaper. Will see in ~4 years what will make a financial sense.
I still have a 7950x3d sitting on the bench that I can't afford to build out. I should probably sell it but, I can't stand the idea of selling it for $200 less than I paid without ever even opening the box...while selling it would solve my problems that just seems so foolish and a big hit
Nah, it's a great thing. Having a much more efficient architecture nailed down means that, with some minor fabrication advances, next gen can use the same (if not even better) kind of efficiency/ipc but with way higher power draw. Meaning crazy performance
I gotchu... Acer Nitro has a 180hz for $200 and a 240hz for $250. Both come with speakers and VESA mounting, if that helps. Disclaimer: This comment is not sponsored by Acer.
If you put just a little more voltage into these new AMD chips their performance drastically rises. Seems AMD was pretty conservative on their TDP limits, probably because of all of Intels issues lately.
I feel like people need to give the benchmarks on these new cpus a bit of breathing room. Power managment / consumption seems to be a problem with current gen cpus. Imo a getting simular figures with more efficiencies. It builds a solid foundation for future tech. And looks to me like there leaving power on the table because people cant leave anything "standard" these days.
Wait for the x3d variants. Those are the real high end chips.
Yes
Only in gaming(and not always). Nothing else, have a look at the GN video, so no thr new x3d won't be much better than the old ones
ryzen 4070x3d on top
@@Behemoth33Will be when the new drivers get released
@adamrozek5782 just about to comment this. Give it a little time for drivers
This happens with every Zen generation. Bad value initially due to the enticing prices of the two-year-old CPUs, but once that stock is liquidated and new gen prices dip below MSRP, the new generation offers better value.
Amd, all we need is a ryzen 4070 😭
Fr
We exist, dw 😊
@@TheDuckteryes that one strix Point halo cpu thé ryzen 4070
Wdm they exist they even said it
We are getting one in 2025
i7800X3D gonna make AMD rich 🗿
Damn so many likes
+1 i got one +/- year ago
What about the r9 15900k3d?
Nah im waiting for Ryzen RTX 7800X3D Super
@@mahdi8572I'd go with the XXX XTX Ti edition
Yeah but who plays at 1080p anyways?!😂
I wouldn't knock efficiency to hard. Instead of pulling an Intel and just cranking up the juice, they're making better chips that, while the may perform about the same as the 7xxx's are doing so with less power. That's a technological win in my book.
I wonder what peak overclocking would look like...
Some guy already pushed his 9700X to 5.8GHz. Seems like manual overclocking is back on the menu.
I second this
This guy (Zach) hasn't watched the Linus's video on the 9600 and 9700.
@@mysticfusion2063 maybe not
Well it could overclock for higher power usage. So there's potential
there is a TON of performance headroom though - if you switch on PBO (automatic), allowing the cpu to use a bit more power, it spanks. they just went super conservative with how much power they're giving it.
if its so efficient then turning on PBO and letting it rip, even on the same 100 watts or whatever, it should outperform last gen a good margin
If you compare it to the 5 5600x, which has the exact same TDP, the 5 9600x absolutely DESTROYS the 5 5600x
@@resident.fromohio yes, but I would think that's obvious given that the 5600x is 2 generations old and on a platform with significantly lower memory bandwidth.
I was just about to buy one 💀
Oof
@JasperMospon they sound like they still might be decent
@@UserOfTH-camIDKI would just stick to the 7000 series for now imo
@@UserOfTH-camIDK just wait for the ryzen 9 reviews and if they don't meet expectations just go for a 7800x3d
Probably wait for the Reviews in the 9800 and 9900, and maybe you could get a used 7000 series by a discounted price If someone is upgrading
It's just massively power limited. Bump it up to the same power limits as the 7700X and it's 30% ahead 💀
Sadly reviewers tried that but it only seemed to work for productivity tasks and didn't affect fps for games. It needs an XT or X3D product to fix.
@@BargateEither optimizations are needed or we have yet to see more games use its power. Linus benchmark with 1080p low and 4090 without overclock shows that cpu is ahead of than last gen ofc that's on cpu heavy types like Esports in triple A the difference to marginal
I've heard they are cache limited? I guess we'll find out with the 9950x and x3d launches
30% more power does not equate to 30% more performance
@@shrapnel6818I don't know in which part of the comment was a mention that 30% more power equals to 30% more performance
My question is if the 9600x beats the 7700x, since their prices are comparable
It is weaker and less cores i wouldn’t recommend,7700 non x is the best value at 200$ on Ali express
I think it does if you let it use the same power
No
@@qdo4aliexpress is shit choice for buying pc parts.
I don't know what he mentions. Greater Power efficiency is always good for the customer. I hope for a few non X Versions later on. We need more capable 65 w CPUs for gaming!
Yeah, it probably saves a few bucks a month. Not bad, since you might keep it for years.
Cant wait for the 9900x and 9950x reviews
The ryzen 4070 will never give you up and will never let you down
@@Ryzen4070tisuper correct, and will never run around and desert you
@@TheDuckteryou trademarked the Ryzen 4070💀
More efficiency means less heating and power wastage so possibly would result in better days for mini PCs/Laptops
Also AMD needs to step up their game in laptops and this could be their W move.
I feel like 7000 series is still brand new idk why they are releasing the 9000 already, clearly unprepared.
They are extremely efficient. They are just tuned for low power comsumption out of the box, it does not mean that it cant be set to higher power. Set them to the same limit of 142w ppt, and they have way more performance, and it gets 23000-25000 points in cinebench r23, which is not bad at all. They are just too efficient out of the box, but the architectural changes are there. You just got to give the a little more room.
Hopefully they don't fail like Intels 14/13 gen CPU
Yep, would suck
@@TheDuckterI have the perfect gpu a ryzen i940900xtx ti super
An i9 and a 4090 from amd
I Will Definitely Buy The 9000 series cpu for my "Ryzen 4070"
(If you know you know)
Power efficiency is a big deal. Sff cases can easily keep those things cool. We don't need bigger and better!! Consolidation and optimization is mandatory!!!! Nvidia keeps saying this is better while making their gpus the size of a truck.
When are the x3d variants expected to release, I like the extra cache.
Do you do any build it yourself builds I want to learn to build a pc with my dad and I really want to at least get the option or for you to just see this I think it’s a pretty good idea for those who watch you but can’t afford the prebuilt price
I think this gen is a preparation for the next gen. Because then they gonna give the cores more power. And with the actual performance per Watt they are gonna be really strong. My Opinion. What do you guys think?
In places where power is getting more and more expensive, these chips getting the same (and in some cases better) performance than the previous generation while consuming LESS power is a win.
How about an analysis comparing the thermals of equivalent 7000 and 9000 series CPUs?
Should I build an AM5 build with ryzen 5 7600 rn? Or should I wait for the price to come down?
I mostly play minecraft and have a amd ryzen 5 4600 with a nvidea 1650 with 8 gigs of ddr4 ram. What to do?
As a laptop gamer, this trend of power efficiency with the 9000 series and the 4060 makes me happy. The days where laptop components have half the performance of desktop components are almost over.
Also even for a desktop, it's nice to have a more power efficient chip. It means lower temps, easier to cool, lower fan noise, your room doesn't heat up like an oven, your electricity bill is lower, and you're saving the planet (jk).
Power efficiency is a very underrated quality of life feature.
The power efficiency and still gaining some performance is nice. It just means the next set will probably be power-hungry performance monsters .
AMD is cooked
What are those keycaps on your keyboard shown in the video? Those look really nice and I was wondering if there is a place to buy them.
For a 4080 super, should i go for the 7900x or the 7800x3d?
I bought a 7600x 3 months ago, was worried I might have been missing out on a massive upgrade but seems like waiting that long for zen5 isn’t worth it.
Likely my best upgrade would probably be the 9800x3d years down the line. It’ll be interesting to see how that measures against current x3d cpus
Zach the point is, keeping your motherboard and upgrading only the cpu (big buying point for am5) is not really a good idea as too many generations and the motherboard simply will not be able to handle newer chips. For 1-2 generations probably, but motherboard components will not be able to handle newer chips because of components such as the VRMs
Holy shit I need that istg after my dad died things have been so hard I'm so glad I've got something to look forward to
Hey Zach, I have been your videos since my PC journey started. I am new to PC world my PSU don't have 8 pin connector for my GPU can I plug in 6 pin and 2 pin (both separate pins ) together in a single 8 pin connector in GPU ? I was using rx 470 before but now I am moving to gtx 1660ti.
Tell me pls than I will buy GPU accordingly
in comparison to an incremental intel generation, this is great. at least some difference in performance is good, but honestly having a much lower tdp chip is really nice. maybe we can pair a 9900x with a low profile cooler now, which we couldnt do with the 7900x. not to mention getting that as well as a lower price is just a nice bonus. i think of the 9000 series like the gpx 2. not an upgrade but more of an update.
At that point buy a ryzen 4070 and have a pc with no cpu. I heard the integrated processor of the ryzen 4070 can get 120 fps in every game max settings
I think its the Drivers thats causing the performance issues because its a brand new CPU, probably give the drivers sometime to mature a bit and then there will be performance increases
I will buy ryzen 5 9600x / non x because of resell value
I wonder if they’ll make a 9500F again maybe when the x3d chips release would be nice and hopefully its good
Recent benchmarks on the ryzen 4070 super are great, can’t wait for the drop
Itd be interesting to see work load stuff on these as that could be a big win for the release.
Personallyvwaiting on 9950X as full rig build as on laptop with 3000 in
Love your shorts keep the good work
Damn every cpu company missing the mark right now, I have hopes for the next 3 AMD cpu's though.
The 9000 series seems like a good idea for itx builds. High prices and lower temps seems like a perfect match for the itx community!
Power efficiency though might mean I'm buying it
still a good upgrade from my 5700X definitely gonna go with one of the 9000 chips when I upgrade probably gonna wait until the X3Ds come out
I know I'll get flak for this, but I'm a Texan. TDP means something when your A/C is working its hardest and its 100° outside. I'm still running a 5800x, which has treated me very well so far. I might just consider upgrading for the sake of pulling some heat out of my office.
@@logandoeslife 5700x3d
In short: More cache+other things=less wattage drawn=less heat
@@DeNoobGamer less cores = downgrade. I do a lot of binary compilation, video editing, and software rendering. I appreciate the sentiment, but this suggestion is counterintuitive in a few ways. The 5700x3d would cost something, even if it's affordable. Paying money for reduced performance (aside from a marginal gain on single threaded workloads) isn't a hobby of mine. I'm thinking I'll probably end up with a 9950x(3d if they release one) a year or so after they're released, and proven to be stable. Maybe if I only used my rig for games, but I don't.
@@logandoeslife 5700x3d is also 6 core
@@Damola138 they're both 8 cores, but the 5700x3d has significantly lower boost clocks (~13% decrease). I will say I was wrong about the core count, but it's definitely not enough of a performance gain to warrant spending any money on it.
@logandoeslife You're right. 100% this is the best time to jump on AM5.
Maybe even best waiting for x3d early next year and getting the 7800x3d at reduced cost.
I have a 12th Gen Intel core i9 and a RTX 4070 ti how much fps I would get with max settings in varuis games
LTT (I think) has said that they are overclockable to the same power usage of last gen, that way they get their max overclock and overall just better. So I guess 9th gen gives both better power saving and equal performance or same power and better performance
9700X OC enthusiast: 5,8GHz
Expert might be already able to achieve 6GHz without LN2. But might require special BIOS.
6 GHz for the 9700X with LN2 seems very EZ to achieve.
And bro was happy that İntel screwed💀
Hey Zack please make a video about "best processors for productive workshop"😊😊. Actually I need a processor which will give me best performance per dollar in productive works like video editing, graphics designing etc.
Honestly I think AMD and Intel both need to have a round or two of new CPUs that focus on efficiency, even if performance doesn't rise much or even at all.
Basically the 9xxx sku’s. Just need intel to actually understand the word “efficiency” and they’re off to the races
is the i3 12100f and rx 580 8gb a good combo
I need your help please I accidentally bent some of my motherboard pins and a can’t return it because it been more than 90 days is there any way to fix it
TH-cam can solve many problems, including bent pins.
Lower power for a minor uptick in performance is still a net gain
Well, I mean, there's still much more upgrades from the driver side of things that will happen so it's probably gonna end up at like 10-7 % increase
They left a lot of performance on table, so these oc really good even with turning on pbo and better when you manual oc. Had they pushed the chips loke last gen out of the box things would had been different.
Thank god I recently bought a 7600x and I thought it might have been a really bad idea but with this I know the investment was good
Ill enjoy an updated 7950x with lower power! Building mitx high end machine in probs 3 months
Your bro needs help!
I’m putting together a PC build and here’s what I have so far:
Case: Montech X3 Mesh White with ARGB
CPU Cooler: White ARGB to cool the Ryzen 5 5600
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600
GPU: RX 5700xt 8GB, which I found for $130
Motherboard: Full ATX AM4
Storage: 500GB M.2 nvme SSD and 1tb hdd
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz with ARGB
PSU: 600W bronze 80 plus with clean white cable extensions
Sourced alot of things from Ebay and sum stuff from from AliExpress so every thing costs me about 500 to 600 dollars. Given this setup and the price of the RX 5700xt, do you have any suggestions for improvements or alternative components?
Thanks!
Amd should make a ryzen 4070 ti super ❤❤😂
And the 4070, 4070 super and 4070 ti
@@TheDuckter fr friend
Honestly the lower power is worth it to me as it doesn't take much to heat my room up to uncomfortable levels even with the window open
i was going to wait for 9000 series cpus but because when they launch they ll probably have some problems (as usual) and they’ll be too expensive thats why i ordered 7800x3d
The power profile by default on these seems pretty conservative, they’re actually quite beefy chips if you tune them up a bit
I have a ryzen 5 5600gt paired with a rx 6800 core, but I've read that the pc might be bottlenecking due to the processor.
Did the calculator lied to me? And if not
What cpu would you recommend to pair my gpu with?
Yo ztt I love your content making a pc hear and I'm still on the edge between a 7900 gre and a 40/70 super. My friends are Nvidia fan boys that's why
Overlooking the itx builds cool cpus are everything
The power efficiency is a big upside. Less heat and less power. These are significant improvements in power while still getting more performance.
what happened to the 8000 series
The benchmarks in Linus's test bench made the 9000 CPU and is better in some games but not in productively like blender where the i9 14900k is a master. The cpu also draws less power and less temperature.
I was always after the clean looks offered by MSI Project zero motherboard and was thinking of pairing it with a ryzen 9 9900x and rtx 4070 ti super. Is this combo a good choice?
If I buy a 9000 series I would wait for the x3d chips till then the cups will be cheaper and also more chips will be available
Its not bad at all ! Its good to lower power consumption some time ! Cost less in electricity, less heat and you can overcloock more (from heat perspectives).
If they didnt ever lower tdp there gonna do an intel thing were you are at 500 watt for a 95degres cpu with a 360aio
Why don’t you just let them use the same power as the 7000 series? Linus got an over 20% increase in performance over the 7000 series by doing this
is the rx 7600 xt 16gb good if i want a just play games like cs, minecraft (with good shaders), forza 5, valheim... i get around 100 fps on bad graphics on my rx570 so i think this is a good upgrade.
It's fine
@@AlexHusTechok thx😃🙏🙏
9700x is 65w tdp, when compared to the 7700(65w tdp) Instahead of the 7700x(higher tdp) the difference is roughly 5%.
until the 9800x3d comes and wipes the floor with everything
Power efficiency is good for productivity tasks but during gaming it's like 5w less than the 7700x. For gaming this is basically a 7700x relaunch can't really suggest it.
I was considering getting the 9700x but sense I’m gonna to assume the 7000 series will drop along side the 9000 series launches imma just wait and see if I can snag a 7800x3D or a 7900x processor later down the road as I use my pc for Editing and streaming and I’m still on my 5600x which is getting the job done fine
Get desktop cpu because of workload maybe possible 7900x3d but 7900x does its job 7800x3d is mainly for gaming i have 5800x3d and its slow when editing videos but its up to you if u arent regular editor/streamer
Most games they benchmark are un optimized PlayStation games while cpu cpu upgrade is more relevant to competitive games like cs2 valorant pubg fortnite etc.. only one competitive game was there and after taking average they call it flop cpu..
I think that the issue is currently software.
Day 20 of asking: Yooooo ZTT! Do you have any idea how I can convince my parents to give me a mid-end pc, that I can build... I am a 13-year-old who really likes pc, I'm trying to build a server for my Plex.. and btw. For Minecraft also.
I would recommend getting the ryzen 4070, best value for your money
Same
My power button on my pc case just broke how do I replace it?
return or RMA the case
Prime example of suffering from success
Day 18 of asking ztt builds to send the ryzen 4070 guy an rtx 4070 build
I'm still on DDR4 I'll take power efficiency but at a reasonable price. I bought the last get on DDR4 cause it was cheaper. Will see in ~4 years what will make a financial sense.
It's looking like an upgraded version of the 7000 non-X series
I still have a 7950x3d sitting on the bench that I can't afford to build out. I should probably sell it but, I can't stand the idea of selling it for $200 less than I paid without ever even opening the box...while selling it would solve my problems that just seems so foolish and a big hit
It just sits there staring at me... asking for my money to build it out... and I want to.... It's pretty close to torture
How long until the price drops? Should I wait or just build my new PC with 7600x instead?
Nah, it's a great thing. Having a much more efficient architecture nailed down means that, with some minor fabrication advances, next gen can use the same (if not even better) kind of efficiency/ipc but with way higher power draw. Meaning crazy performance
AMD is officially cooked
7800x3d micro center bundle looking better every day
In cinebench R23 the 9600X can putperform the 7950X in single core performance they shine in productivity not gaming
What's a good 1440p monitor? Preferably under 250 or 200
I gotchu...
Acer Nitro has a 180hz for $200 and a 240hz for $250.
Both come with speakers and VESA mounting, if that helps.
Disclaimer: This comment is not sponsored by Acer.
@@Jeff.78 alright thank you so much I'll take a look
If you put just a little more voltage into these new AMD chips their performance drastically rises. Seems AMD was pretty conservative on their TDP limits, probably because of all of Intels issues lately.
Zach you are wrong, if you let the 9700x loose, performance goes up very much
Just unlock via PBO on BIOS, screw the power draw and get a 20% extra FPS.
I would be happy to buy a Ryzen 9600X as a brand new PC builder. Lower TDP means it will run cooler, so I won't need a top tier CPU cooler.
Still waiting for a Ryzen 4070 review. Bless us with one, you kind sir.
I feel like people need to give the benchmarks on these new cpus a bit of breathing room. Power managment / consumption seems to be a problem with current gen cpus. Imo a getting simular figures with more efficiencies. It builds a solid foundation for future tech. And looks to me like there leaving power on the table because people cant leave anything "standard" these days.