Novation Circuit Tracks vs Roland MC-101 (2021)

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  • The long-awaited, excruciatingly detailed comparison of the Novation Circuit Tracks vs the Roland MC-101. They're both fantastic, hands-on, portable, and standalone grooveboxes with a ton of features, and while I think most people will have a good time with either, they have different strengths and design philosophies that you should be aware of going in.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:40 Price
    01:30 Samples
    05:09 Sidechaining
    07:09 Batteries
    08:00 Workflow
    12:24 Live Performance
    17:28 Sound Quality
    18:30 External Expansion
    21:30 Quantization and Microsteps
    22:00 Scales, Chords, and Arpeggiators
    23:09 Probability and Mutate
    24:04 Which Groovebox is Right for You?
    26:57 Audio Examples and Outro
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  • @GabeMillerMusic
    @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Quick correction, the MC-101 DOES have probability for drum tracks and that's my bad for missing it.
    And in general, to be clear, I don't think one device is objectively better... They're both the gold standard for budget, hands-on, surprisingly powerful gear. Hopefully this helps you decide which one fits your specific needs better.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, it becomes a multitrack midi controller. I did a video about that exact thing at the beginning of this year, and the process should be pretty much the same with the Tracks.

    • @waynesilverman3048
      @waynesilverman3048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Intresting vid.need some advice pal iv been trying to synch my korg electribe 2 into my minilogue so i can play minilogue on my electribe .ive turned input up but no sound .is pluged in midi out and sent to synch in to the electribe with midi cable (ive got the synch adapter)is something i need to press ?

    • @rustikinc63
      @rustikinc63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are Richard Huckle

    • @pricejoss
      @pricejoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great comparison. Thanks Gabe. Would you ever review/look at the 101’s big brother, the 707?

    • @BsYtHandle
      @BsYtHandle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really? How so? I mean, in the video you seem to say that the Circuit kicks the MC101's ass. Isn't workflow the main feature of a groovebox?

  • @jimkocherful
    @jimkocherful 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've recently been watching many of Gabe's videos about Grooveboxes. All very helpful (especially the "Terms" one). This was the one where I finally felt like I decided on which one would work best for me and my budget (the Novation Tracks).
    I am a beginner, no music training, never learned an instrument. But I've always enjoyed electronic music (especially Todd Terje) and remixes, and want to try getting my music ideas out of my head and onto recordings. His description of the easier live jamming and intuitive interface with Tracks is what sold me! Thanks for your informative and easy to understand videos Gabe! 🙂

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's awesome! Hopefully you enjoy it, glad the videos have been helpful. I've got multiple tutorials as well if you get stuck. Getting into music production can be a huge learning curve but it's super fulfilling, regardless of the gear route you go for.

  • @DrwPrry
    @DrwPrry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I was actually looking for exactly this kind of comparison. This is super informative, so happy I found this channel. definitely deserves more subs. keep it up, you're doing everything right.

    • @gladysfuentes7938
      @gladysfuentes7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES BUT ..YOU COULD SAY WHATS YOUR CHOICE BETWEEN THESE

  • @benjaminbrand3714
    @benjaminbrand3714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love this! It's honestly impressive how quickly you got something this deep and well done in such a short time!

  • @elsantoproductora
    @elsantoproductora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I bought an Mc101 and, even though I was worried about the menu diving, I got used to the shortcuts and button combos really quickly. On the other hand, Circuit's workflow is a thing of beauty. That's why I really wanted chromatic sample flipping, direct sampling and more synth tracks. I really don't care about having side chain inside the box since I prefer to mix and master outside the device. Of course that depends on the way you use the machine, from a performance stand point having side chain compression it's very handy. Thanks for the video!

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah the MC-101 workflow is pretty fluid at this point, which is great to see. And having the ability to chromatically flip and even chop samples on the 101 is really useful and unique for something of this price and feature set.

  • @TheSieza
    @TheSieza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I ordered my Circuit Tracks as a complete newb and was kinda unsure wether the 101 would have been better for the money. Nonetheless I went on a 6 hour binge with my Circuit today. Its just such a fun and intuitive device.

    • @jambutty2218
      @jambutty2218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks , just what I was looking for. I’ve got a Volca and DAW’s but want a groove box . So I don’t have to use a computer.

    • @JJ-vp3bd
      @JJ-vp3bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jambutty2218 any updates so far? how you like it

  • @jnspincliffe2
    @jnspincliffe2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciate your honesty about the design and user experience with all these devices. Love your videos

  • @Thomasabraser
    @Thomasabraser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gabe, you really have the talent to explain things very very clear without being boring at all. I really appreciate the fact, that you always clarify if it is an objective difference or your personal opinion. I agree, that the most powerful addition to the circuit is the possibility to sequence two external devices AND mix them with the internal effects. I own an MC-101 and love it. But, when i want to use it for example with my modal craftsynth 2, I need a mixer, a lot of cables and an additional sequencer (with a different workflow) because the craftsynth doesn't have one built in.

  • @kevinraum7749
    @kevinraum7749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Me watching this already owning an mc-101 knowing damn well Im buying a tracks eventually too.

  • @SummerHeart
    @SummerHeart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video Gabe! Just got me a Circuit Tracks and I think it's perfect for finding inspiration when you've been stuck inside the box for too long!

  • @jambutty2218
    @jambutty2218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the upload and reviews. I’m trying to decide which one would suit me best.

  • @stefrance2
    @stefrance2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, straight to the point, very mature and non biased comments. Not interested in any of these devices but enjoyed this incredible well thought video.

  • @BlueFrog531
    @BlueFrog531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Super easy, barely an inconvenience

    • @KINGJADEX
      @KINGJADEX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beautiful.

    • @MrSulfor
      @MrSulfor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow! wow wow Wow
      Wow

    • @CurrentlyBlazed
      @CurrentlyBlazed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand this reference

    • @raphaelward1711
      @raphaelward1711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont

  • @kevinanderson519
    @kevinanderson519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Gabe, relative newbie to electronic music production. Been having great fun with Logic, but have been watching your content for months. Love your style and your approach. Was looking for a good place to start my groovebox journey. Opted for the Circuit Tracks and I’m absolutely loving it. Will you have dedicated Tracks packs for sale soon? If so, I’ll be first in line to buy them. Thanks again and keep it up Gabe. 👏👏👏👏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @MichaelMoore-bx6st
    @MichaelMoore-bx6st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What is nice about the circuit is the FREE offline editor. Roland's subscription model for an offline editor alone disqualified the 101 for me. I had the 707, and IMO the Roland Zencore sound is unapologetically digital, more so than other digital synths I own. I never fully loved any demos of the circuit engine, so for me could only be a scratch pad, but one with amazing workflow. I could see using one for writing on the go, then using that midi to send to my other synths to be used for their sound. Best of both worlds if you don't mind the extra steps. Nice video as always!

  • @OttosTheName
    @OttosTheName 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On the 101 you can use the 4 macro's to change different parameters for each track. I sometimes tweak decay on the bass and filter on the arp for instance. When it's on 'filter' it can still change any parameter you want. So that could be a selling point for the 101, albeit something very specific.

  • @tekrahmuzik2119
    @tekrahmuzik2119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the mc101 and the mc707...still gonna get the Circuit Tracks too...great info video

  • @cokecl
    @cokecl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Gabe, I have a question: when using external synths on the circuit is there any way to program a change of the preset of the external synth sio when you switch project the external synth sound changes?

  • @markymarkdavies
    @markymarkdavies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video,
    I've just ordered the circuit tracks!
    Can the midi tracks be utilised in any way when using it as a stand alone device?
    Thanks

  • @espertempo
    @espertempo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and thorough comparison.

  • @tommy.countach
    @tommy.countach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    now that all the shops are closed, im super grateful that you do these comparisons! thanks! do you know if the roland supports live recording midi data from a midi keyboard?

  • @timbaba9947
    @timbaba9947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Gabe!
    Thanks so much for shairing the knowledge! I'm owning the mc 101 and Circuit OG focusing on live performances. I love the combination of the dirtyness of the og and clean sound of the mc 101.
    But as you said live performance with the roland is not as smooth as with the circuit (especially tracks).
    I wonder if you can control two tracks of the mc 101 via Midi tracks and use even side chain or put parameters of the roland to the microknobs of the circuit. Do you think that would work?

  • @Thomasabraser
    @Thomasabraser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you very much for this very informative video. At the MC-101 you can also change the settings for the knobs, so that all 4 control one track at the same time. So you can be able to change the cutoff and resonance at the same time for example. For the circuit tracks I am still unsure how I think about it. I feel like they optimised some things but not as much as they could have. We still don't know all the details about the new Rhythm but I think one machine with the capabilities of both would have been perfect.

  • @akdm82
    @akdm82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to you and Loopop, I've ordered both of these and I already have a VerseLab MV-1! LOL. I just love these kinds of devices and I have different needs at different times. Thank you for your in-depth videos and all the great tips! You and Loopop, among some others too, are real assets to our community because of your willingness to share your knowledge.

  • @TheOriginalEUrban
    @TheOriginalEUrban 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OP1+ Electribe+Model Cycles+ Both Circuits+ MC101+ (whatever else I'm missing here)=The Megazord/Voltron of set ups.

  • @JoshIsMakingMusic
    @JoshIsMakingMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's really interesting to see each device's strengths and weaknesses knowing these differences can be nice since it makes it easier for someone to chose between them based on what that person is specifically looking for.

  • @valquireveljkovic
    @valquireveljkovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison!

  • @SwiftDreamer
    @SwiftDreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This comparison is pretty spot on. I never owned a circuit, the but workflow seems really fluid and a definitely better performance device than the mc101. If you're new to music production and want a device you can lay down ideas fairly easily, i would probably go with the circuit tracks, if you want to do more sound design in a box and dont mind menu diving and really learning as many aspects of a device as possible, i would say shoot for the mc-101

  • @bose5160
    @bose5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Planning to swap my 707 out for a 101 for the sounds alone to go along with a Deluge.

  • @80iesDude45
    @80iesDude45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The dream couple. I got both and I'm happy ;-)

  • @Mamiya
    @Mamiya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought the circuit tracks! One thing worth mentioning is that circuit tracks is the second generation and has improved over time and after much user feedback. Cant wait to get my hands dirty!

  • @EmilioNorrmann
    @EmilioNorrmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    damn I have the 101 and that audio input from the tracks would be an awesome feature to have! I hope the Rythm improves on that and add the ability to live record samples from that input as well.. that would be the perfect setup for me !

  • @Mallavogue
    @Mallavogue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow wow wow wow wow. This video was tight!

  • @luminousbrilliance1711
    @luminousbrilliance1711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm. Great review Gabe. We should figure out your Las Vegas Residency EDM Moniker. Like G- Money? Naw-General Mechanics? Anyway-thank you for posting, Man!

  • @mr.t7229
    @mr.t7229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats first, as always great hands-on insights!!
    I have one question on my mind: The OG Circuit sends out automation as midi CCs over usb midi, but not over midi out. Did you have a chance to try if the new models sends MIDI CCs over the midi port as well? Cheers & best wishes!

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't messed with it much yet, but yes, the Tracks sends MIDI CCs out over the midi port.

    • @mr.t7229
      @mr.t7229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic thanks for confirmation. That was a bummer for me in OG. Good news!

  • @Turtles8179
    @Turtles8179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just can’t decide. Leaning towards circuit tracks but wouldn’t have any external gear to connect to it. Don’t mind spending a bit more time learning the mc101 if it suits my needs better. Anyone with experience got any advice?

  • @henadziaiz2679
    @henadziaiz2679 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bougth my first groovebox for something like a 3 weeks ago. Actually wanted to purchase Notaion Circuit cuz while it seems less capable than MC-101, it's much more simpler to dive in (and it aslo a little bit cheaper). However there was no possibility to get Circuit in my region, so MC-101 was the only option I had. And I really like it - such a great device to start. But now, when Tracks is out, I'm already wainting 'till it arrives to us and will take it too.

  • @KunchangLeeMusic
    @KunchangLeeMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you had to pick between these two and the opz1 for like indie songwriting like Bon Iver - which would you pick ?

  • @InkyDaCaT
    @InkyDaCaT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gabe on og circuit if you pick blank pattern and make chords on steps then turn volume down on synth track...you can play chords live and they sound...so kinda like chord mode😉 either turn volume down or hold bottom left step on it it holds that Patten so think you pick blank pattern but hold the Patten with left bottom step that holds you on that Patten view so you can play chords live?

  • @brendandevine515
    @brendandevine515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and insight.. thanks. Both are great at different things. Think the Roland is more suited for what I want to achieve..

  • @abdullalhazred3365
    @abdullalhazred3365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good breakdown - without a doubt the Circuit for performance.

  • @ralftodtitec3305
    @ralftodtitec3305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you make more videos with the Novation Circuit Tracks, I think I will also buy it.

  • @raysubject
    @raysubject 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now, when you have also Digitakt .. imagine situation you want to add to live set second synth/groovebox to Digitakt. Like for more synth tracks. Which one will be you choice, if you had to choose one ? MC101 or Cicruit Tracks ? I'm currently in phase i need sadd something to my DT+DN kombo (i'm missing at least 2 more polyphonic synth tracks) and for the hell i can't decide which one to choose ..
    Sub question. I tested it and when i switch pattern on DT/DN, it switches scene on Circuit OG (i guess it will be same in Circuit Tracks). But can you please verify if it does same thing with MC101 ?

  • @johnrichardson3297
    @johnrichardson3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gabe Miller Music would ChordBot (Chord Module VIA Midi) give you a better vantage to review a pro/con between MC-101 and Circuit Tracks?
    Love your final words on MC-101 - Spotify-Advanced; VS. Circuit - Beginner Dawless Summation

  • @Dolores5000
    @Dolores5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @honkytonkblues2323
    @honkytonkblues2323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One question, I have an akai mini mpk3 an I want to connect with some device (without using a computer) that brings power and sounds, and at the same time connect to this device a boss rc500 looper that I use live woth my guitar ad vocals. Some of these two devices can solve this?

  • @emildobranszky3656
    @emildobranszky3656 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! Cant you control MFX vith Velocity of the note or LFO? In that case it could be som kinda S-chain. Best Wishes

  • @SwiftDreamer
    @SwiftDreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One last thing Gabe, if the mutate feature randomizes a patterns sequence, you can also do that on a clip by clip basis on tone tracks & drum tracks by shift & pressing a clip, then changing the mode from FWD to RND

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, although if I recall correctly, it randomizes it every time the clip loops.

  • @jazz7060
    @jazz7060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job! Thank you! :)

  • @LucidMusicIncRecordings
    @LucidMusicIncRecordings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    waiting for the demo tracks ;)

  • @lwpweb
    @lwpweb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to sync the circuit tracks with external drum maschines like tr6ss or digitakt?

  • @allyouracid
    @allyouracid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:22 +: the Tracks can really process the external audio in? Like, they go through the ADSR, Delay etc? That's what annoys me with my TR8S, your can sidechain external audio, but no delay, reverb etc

  • @DustenRust
    @DustenRust 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a Circuit Tracks combined with a MicroFreak be a coser-to-studio setup than the MC-101?
    No PC / Mac used in either example.

  • @spybloodjr
    @spybloodjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the circuit has an issues with falling out of step if you adjust the step length while playing live. I wonder if that's been addressed at all.

  • @drakeeblis
    @drakeeblis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I love your work! However, I would still love to see you do something with the Novation circuit and the zoom ar48... If you can't do both, at least do something on the zoom, ar48 please!!!

  • @jthorpe4droid
    @jthorpe4droid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you work out a way yet of exporting patches from circuit to tracks better than exporting each one of them individually, I only did 4 packs this morning but it was starting to make my hand hurt, then I released I did 512 clicks to export them, at least it was only drag and drop to do the new pack. And I'm surprised there is no samples.syx import, it just seems to be audio unless I'm missing something.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not yet unfortunately, all I know is drag and drop at the moment.

  • @briknole3455
    @briknole3455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much ♥

  • @MikeButle
    @MikeButle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gabe. Don't recall anyone mentioning this between you and a couple other TH-camrs, but can the synth tracks also be used as external midi tracks... Being able to sequence 4 ext midi tracks in total? Or is it just the 2 ext midi tracks? Thank you

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can sequence 4 external synths, but there are only two outputs, so the routing for that might get a bit complex, and you'll need a synth with midi through.

    • @MikeButle
      @MikeButle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic prefect. Thank you

  • @davidspiers6638
    @davidspiers6638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd be keen to see your live set with just OG circuit, tracks + microfreak, 2 channel mixer with FX.

  • @lukegregg5944
    @lukegregg5944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, what's next on the list of your things to try? Polyend Tracker?

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! The Roland MV-1 is next, after that it's a toss up between the MPC One and the Tracker.

    • @lukegregg5944
      @lukegregg5944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic Look forward to it!

  • @AdeptusPsychonautica
    @AdeptusPsychonautica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This has convinced me that circuit tracks is the way to go for a noob like me who just wants to make a few bleeps and bloops

    • @m477x
      @m477x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, you can without problem create full songs on Tracks easily, that sound good. If you're interested, check out my newest video- the song is created on Tracks and OG Circuit

    • @YourFreeBeats
      @YourFreeBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adeptus Psychonautica, no sir. Please don't sell it short. There are too many "modular synth" cats out there who only play 'drone ambient" or some Plinkity-Plunk-Bleep-Bleep-Bloops.
      Seriously, I don't own either one, but I have the original 808, 606, 626, 707,, 909, and now the 8s. I also have the Circuit and the Circuit Monostation. Definitely check out the Circuit Patch Store...this will help you become inspired, and I assure you that you will be creating whatever sort of music you want on that thing. Throw your sh*t up once you've rocked it some. All the best with it!

    • @pcuimac
      @pcuimac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong, because a noob wants a big patch library. The Circuit needs you to set up all the patches and samples you want to use.
      You need weeks to program all those synth patches with the external editor.

    • @aorakis5795
      @aorakis5795 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pcuimac are the internal basic sounds that bad?
      And is it that hard/long/tricky to upload news sounds into the circuits?

  • @ItsJustEmK
    @ItsJustEmK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A thing that has me still considering the MC-101 is running via USB bus power. I think it would go really well with a USB power bank but I don't see a lot of talk about using it that way. Really seems like Roland underplayed it as a feature

  • @foodstampz
    @foodstampz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    True....i wish they added more outputs on the circuit tracks.

  • @OttosTheName
    @OttosTheName 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow didn't know the 101 is so expensive in the States. In Europe it's the same price as the new Tracks. I was kinda hoping for 101 functionality with a circuit workflow. That would be so rad. Still kinda want the Tracks though, it does seem nice and I bet it'll get a bunch of new features with updates. I'd definitely wait for it to go down in price, but I can see how it's exactly what some people were waiting for.

  • @danielecorciulo8779
    @danielecorciulo8779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Thank you for your Video. I am a blind musician and bought a novation circuit. While I am happy, I don't like the sounds so much. Do you think that it is possible to operate the roland mc101 as a blind when memorizing some short-cuts? Is the menu consequent, so that you can try to remember when I press menu and scroll maybe three times I am at this option? I apreciate your answer. Thank you.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it would be possible, but definitely an uphill battle. The MC-101 relies on its screen a lot, so while it probably wouldn't be too hard to choose sounds and record stuff, doing any in depth tweaking without any visual feedback would be incredibly difficult, as everything relies on the value knob. I'd say maybe stick with the Circuit and try to find a sound pack you like better.

    • @tylon2999
      @tylon2999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use the Circuit to control other gear. If you live near a good music they might be able to put together a something you could use wit the Circuit.

  • @justjoeblow420
    @justjoeblow420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I found out Roland recently rolled out proper Zen-core userbank support to the MC-101 it was what has pushed me to be willing to spend the extra money on the MC-101 after my MS-20 Mini sells. This opens a huge world of possibilities for the MC-101 if you are willing to do your sound design on a computer as that means the full Zen-core synth engine is now properly usable on the MC-101 which wasn't the case before.
    I really think Roland has been slow to roll out features to the MC-101 as they where afraid of it possibly cannibalizing some MC-707 sales. Doing sound design on my computer doesn't bother me but I still wish Roland would allow more access to the parameters on the MC-101 itself even if it would inevitably end up super menu dive heavy. The other major downside with the MC-101 is if you do want to make your own sounds/presets on a computer to my knowledge that requires either paying for a Roland Cloud subscription or buying a lifetime license to Zenology Pro which either way you go is an extra expense against the MC-101.
    For me though having what is becoming more and more access to the proper Zen-core experience in such a relatively affordable package just makes the MC-101 too good to ignore for me even with it's limitations, especially when I consider most of it's Zen-core based compatriots cost so freaking much when many are 1K or more here in the states. I would still say parts of the MC-101 have obvious places where Roalnd can expand it's feature set and I half expect them to as it seems they intentionally held back a little to see what the competing devices would offer.

  • @blood_n_guts_murphy
    @blood_n_guts_murphy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which is best as a stand alone music making machine?

  • @xn-triq7607
    @xn-triq7607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I will say is.......
    "Polyend Tracker"!!!!!!
    All argument's over! 💯👌🏾 life changing instrument/synth/performance tool/groove box/sound shaping device/interface/feel/speed/learning curve/inspiration and pretty much everything.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely want to give one a go. But not everyone is going to be down to learn the Tracker workflow, and not everyone is able or willing to pay the extra for it. There's still absolutely a place for more pads based grooveboxes.

    • @xn-triq7607
      @xn-triq7607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic Honestly, I thought the exact same until I tried the Polyend, then I was hooked! it really is such a great bit of kit, and for what is achievable on the tracker it really destroy's the groovebox price range battle, it's got £1000 quality, functionality, great build and feels amazing. (sorry, I'm just a bit of a fanboy ATM :)) it really has changed my entire workflow and outlook on music production.

  • @ruhatuma
    @ruhatuma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll go for the tracks. I want to MIDI sync it with my RC 505. I play percussion and wind instruments and I want a setup that works good for performances.

  • @glenesis
    @glenesis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ten year old Nova engine versus 35 year old Linear Algorithmic Synthesis 😂 I love em both forever!

  • @SwiftDreamer
    @SwiftDreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mc101 does have a probability option for notes & drum sounds on the sequencer through the mute(mte) parameter when you shift + press a step

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh dang I'll give that a look

    • @SwiftDreamer
      @SwiftDreamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GabeMillerMusic actually doubled checked, mte is only available for drum tracks

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay good to know. I hadn't run across it when I was digging through the manual to make my tips and tricks video so I'm guessing it's easy to miss

  • @0bsolet
    @0bsolet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 101 and a microfreak. I want to include the novation tracks on the setup. Does you guys see any advantage on that combo? Or its redundancy? Maybe wait for the circuit rhythm?

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you're doing multitrack recording, don't mind having the MicroFreak double a built in synth track, and have a separate device to capture the MicroFreak's output, I'd say nah, what you've got should be plenty powerful. But if you want a setup that's more integrated for live jamming, the Tracks is probably worth a look. You could definitely use it with both the Freak and the 101 together. Probably overkill, but it would be cool, I'm planning to give that a go myself in a bit.

    • @0bsolet
      @0bsolet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic thanks a lot Gabe. It makes sense, I will keep with this two beats for now and when I am more proficient with them maybe add another machine to the setup. Keep on rocking your channel is growing and that's beautiful.

  • @dj2bklyn
    @dj2bklyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did novation leave out a visual to see the sample names?

  • @theactionbasterd
    @theactionbasterd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a mc-707 review

  • @pigdog237
    @pigdog237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t forget the MC-101 can also sequence external hardware. In effect, it could actually sequence four external synths by using all four tracks as tone tracks controlling external MIDI. Circuit Tracks with 2 external synths would leave drums + 2 internal synths, MC-101 with 2 external synths would leave drums + 1 internal synths. I suppose the Circuit Tracks could probably run duplicate sequences on internal and external synths in the same way as the original Circuit? As can the MC-101. The MC also has probability, but only on drum tracks I think?
    The way the external synths can be routed back into the Circuit Tracks is really cool (the more expensive MC-707 can do that, I think, but not the MC-101). The MC-101 can also sample directly via USB which is really handy to capture sound from a phone or iPad etc, but it only is currently usable on the looper tracks. I’m hoping firmware 1.7 might change that!
    I’ve been looking forward to seeing the performance of the Circuit Tracks for a while and it seems really good. I think combining a Circuit Tracks with the Circuit Rhythm (when it’s released) could be a killer combo!
    Great video as always!

    • @chuckvicious
      @chuckvicious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the drums can be set to hit at a percentage in sequence mode

  • @johnrichardson3297
    @johnrichardson3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gabe Miller Music does the Roland TR-06 lend itself to experimental(IDM) in use w/ other pedals/effects processors?
    Thanks much

  • @77377
    @77377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the pitch meeting reference lol

  • @mattyac7740
    @mattyac7740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you plan on reviewing the Roland Verselab?

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, as soon as I can get my hands on one

  • @alexwestconsulting
    @alexwestconsulting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a decent time now to buy a used MC since they've been out for a while. The extra tracks alone of the 707 doesn't in itself make it the one to get, or the sampling, but the deeper synth engine might be. I'm good with not being able to edit too deep depending the circumstance, but circuit actually lets you get in there with an editor. 101 doesn't. But the 707 is going to cost twice the price of the 101 and the 101 is going to be a ton of fun anyway. Anyway, how is it not being able to edit sounds much? And do you use an eitor on Circuit (components or otherwise)? Nice new circuit demos. Hopefully you have the unit outright already so you can continue making videos on it.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roland did release a plugin for their Zencore synth engine that gives you similar control to Novation's components, although you have to pay for it. I don't do a ton of patch editing outside of either device, but I do load samples on frequently. It's super easy on the MC-101. And yeah I own the Tracks outright, lots more videos with it on the way.

  • @JAAPIOJO
    @JAAPIOJO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool can you do a novation mk3 with mv-1 verselab. Maybe a great mix of equipment. Because you can get so much classic roland sounds in the verselab with cloud downloads and controle with 8/16 patches mk3 as well.

  • @uberd0gAlpha
    @uberd0gAlpha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my MC-101. Either standalone or as a sound module slaved to the MPC One, it's earned a permanent place in my setup.
    The biggest negative for me is that the pads are terrible. I'm surprised nobody seems to mention it. If you hook up a midi controller with nice pads (like the Launchkey mini mk3) it improves things massively.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fair. I've never had a problem with the pads, but they are kinda dinky.

  • @timmit65
    @timmit65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video! I saw the original Circuit at Instafest several years ago and bought it. I love steptime recording and thought it would get me back into it. The entire reason for selling it was the lack of a screen. I never knew exactly what the pads were doing. I spent the entire time I had it looking at the poorly written manual and the cheat sheet, trying to accomplish anything, The fact that you have no feedback to tell where you are left me never using it. I, also, have a JDxi, that’s almost as frustrating. The fact that all sounds are tied to the pattern, to some on who’s first synth was a Juno 60, is stupid. I saw the MC101 at NAMM and it seems to be a major improvement over the JDxi. Just the fact that I can name a bass sound and use it on 3 different songs, is so much better, than coping a pattern and then spinning all of the way through the sounds to not find it...It’s tied to the pattern. That too is a complaint of mine about the Circuit, with no screen I can’t jut name a sound and use it wherever I want to (the Editor Lib. for the Circuit was far from easy to use). The one thing I really loved about all of these named units sound great! But, I have to respectfully disagree that the Circuit is easier for anyone to ever use. I suppose you might be able to learn all of the button pushes by roat, but I certainly didn’t. I own both the PreSonus Atom and Atom SQ and the addition of the screen, IMHO, makes the SQ a hundred times easier to use, FWIW. Thanks again for the video.

    • @GregDixson
      @GregDixson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks, I'm from a world before cryptic coloured squares (ex MC-303 owner), so interesting to hear it's not easy for everyone to grasp. I think the MC-101 is closer to what I'm used to.

  • @camilomendez1350
    @camilomendez1350 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice

  • @BigBadWolf..............
    @BigBadWolf.............. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always have good content.
    I think a lot of new artists want audio over usb
    I think most middle level to high level musicians want individual outs.
    Once you spend a lot of money on a good audio interface with lots of inputs the last thing you want is the output of your instrument going through a cheap usb conversion.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!
      I'd disagree a bit with the assessment of audio over USB... I like minimalist setups, and would happily take sending multitrack audio through USB over multiple outs into an audio interface any day. It's clean, quick to set up, and pretty much no one will be able to hear the difference. Plus, since I went from just working in the DAW to leaning heavily on grooveboxes, I don't even own an audio interface with more than four mono inputs, and I'm guessing that's a case for a lot of people in my situation. The Circuit Tracks is the first time I've really given into the spread out "table full of gear" setup, since it works so seamlessly.

    • @BigBadWolf..............
      @BigBadWolf.............. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic
      It's better to have it and not use it than not have it. Its easier to make audio over usb work that the physical change to the box of adding more inputs. So if I'm realistic it's more likely audio over usb will be the new trend.

    • @kosemoja8348
      @kosemoja8348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And running things through a computer using midi i was always running into lag

  • @hummahumma3585
    @hummahumma3585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    New Circuit is not revolution but solid evolution. I ordered one immediately and received Yesterday😀

    • @newsdaily8270
      @newsdaily8270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did u order it?

    • @CoenBijpost
      @CoenBijpost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just bought my circuit two months ago. Will have to wait a few months, but definitely getting it. Not selling the og, though. Probably combine them for 14 tracks!

    • @hummahumma3585
      @hummahumma3585 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newsdaily8270 Thomann

    • @hummahumma3585
      @hummahumma3585 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoenBijpost yes, I am keeping my OG Circuit se well. It will pair nicely with the new one!

    • @billjon2732
      @billjon2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea my tracks comes in today also

  • @gokugoma3258
    @gokugoma3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I'm going to wait for circuit rhythm 😃👍🏽

  • @Isti115
    @Isti115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though I'm not buying any of these in the foreseeable future (maybe one day if I'll have enough time and money 🙃) your overview is still very interesting and entertaining! 👍

  • @Sadiquecat
    @Sadiquecat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Instead of a VS and having them fight, I want to see them have a hug and collab on some music :D
    MC101 and Circuit Tracks collaborating to make music would be a dope jam ;)

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I'm planning to do exactly that in the future!

    • @Sadiquecat
      @Sadiquecat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic nice, looking forward to it

  • @demha03
    @demha03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:34 ahhh I see what you did there :P

  • @GeorgeL909
    @GeorgeL909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My test for a sequencer is: can it malmsteen? If I had the technical playing ability, would I be able to record a yngwie malmsteen cover into the sequencer and have it accurately record the note resolution. There are so many sequencers that fail this test. The mc 101 passes it with flying colors, and I'm spoiled now, because more advanced and expensive grooveboxes cannot match the note resolution of the mc. It's like some kind of polyphonic wizardry they did, where even if it's mono, they can take poly voices off step to create micro steps or something??? I don't know. But even elektron can't match the note resolution, unless you bump the bpm up to like 250+, but then your sequences are so short that is a pain to record. I'm really curious how fast notes can be played on the circuit. Is there any other groovebox that can match the MC's note res? Black box can't quite from what I can tell, neither can elektron's stuff, the electribes can't, not sure about mpc's, but the Polyend tracker CAN by using multiple tracks. I'm not crazy about the MC's glaring limitations, but as a sequencer it's extremely hard trying to find a replacement that has that crazy daw level note res and accuracy

  • @anoniconoclast2030
    @anoniconoclast2030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the love of God, can you play a midi synth into these and sequence it?

  • @GameBrou
    @GameBrou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gabe, please make a song of these two fighting each other on each solo!! Each one putting its best strengths on each solo duel... And in the end the Circuit assimilates the MC-101 inside a midi track with side chain and effects for a dope performance beat!!

    • @GameBrou
      @GameBrou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Video title: The clash off the groovebox ... With a very impressive manga Goku style thumbnail!

    • @GameBrou
      @GameBrou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They could battle through some unique styles of music. Hahahaha

    • @GameBrou
      @GameBrou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe I’m tripping here? Just an idea. Hahaha Keep up with the amazing videos. You rock!

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Making a song with the MC-101 fed into the Circuit is on my list!

    • @GameBrou
      @GameBrou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic WOW! Can’t wait to see...

  • @bbwoolfy
    @bbwoolfy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can change the pitch of samples on Circuit Tracks. Latest Deep Dive video from CALC on Novation TV shows how.

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's definitely an improvement on the original Circuit, thanks for mentioning that. It's still not nearly as clean as it is on the MC-101 though, which can map a sample to a keyboard and treat it like a synth track.

  • @Maochan81
    @Maochan81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really difficult to decide between those two. People tend to fall a bit for more features and here i think the 101 would win. You can have 16 samples tracks + 3 powerful synth tracks, usb multitrack audio and clip based workflow. However in my experience the Circuit is just so much more pleasant to use. Very quick, immediate and logical. Just think about the experience when deciding!
    Btw. i chose a used OP-Z in this price range, hahaa. The sequencer is just insane + a lot of other stuff and a lot of fun.

    • @KunchangLeeMusic
      @KunchangLeeMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you had to pick between these two and the opz1 for like indie songwriting like Bon Iver - which would you pick ?

    • @Maochan81
      @Maochan81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KunchangLeeMusic Didn't know Bon Iver, but had a listen. If i had to do such music directly on a groovebox, i would probably go with an MPC One honestly. Reason is that none of those small devices is great at working with samples. In EU the Circuit Tracks is 400 Eur, MC101 is 430, OP-Z 500 (400 used). MPC One is 600 Eur and maybe 520 used. So the prices are pretty close. If i was forced to choose between the 3 portable boxes for that type of music, it would be 101.

    • @dewille-pl
      @dewille-pl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Maochan81 Yesterday I bought used MC-101 for 300Eur. I probably would go with Circuit Track if not this real bargain offer I found. It had been send today to me so can't wait to get it

    • @sinewaymusic
      @sinewaymusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dewille-pl Now that you've used it for a week, what do you think about it? And what do you like/hate the most?

    • @dewille-pl
      @dewille-pl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sinewaymusic A month :) It's tiny music powerhouse, with great, great sound patches, with well samples capabilities, very,very portable which is really big pros. But it suffers (my opinion) from lack of proper song mode and 60sec sample limitation. In fact if it had more memory for sample I could workout song mode quite easy with looper track. MC-101 is suite the best for live performance at least with current 1.60 fw. I'm using 101 not mostly for sketch ideas on my couch and later evolve it in Ableton. I made one full song but it took a week and at the end I fixed few issues in DAW. So I might as well did it in Ableton entirely. Besides all that 101 is fun...a lot of fun!!

  • @jammingpositivevibration
    @jammingpositivevibration 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to buy circuit

  • @YourFreeBeats
    @YourFreeBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job, kid. The thing I respect about this channel, you don't seem to be in anyone's poclket. Moreso, it's obvious you actually USE the products you speak on (as opposed with being sent gear to borrow along with a script to read aloud).
    Please keep it that way, I was the first to be "sponsored" via YT content (on an entirely different account within a different domain..but it's all the same. It is impossible to "keep it real" and have sponsorships these days, and honestly it's because so many 'Starboys' out there wanna be....all in the video, all on the record, dancin....etc. :-)

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not cool with people putting down any of my contemporaries to make me look better, but I appreciate the sentiment. I value my integrity and try to make it VERY clear when something is or isn't sponsored, and always keep the focus on the music making process. I've been fortunate to work with brands more often lately, and they've been cool about giving me quite a bit of creative control.

  • @skyddsrum3350
    @skyddsrum3350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Owned the 101 but eventually sold it, too much menu-diving for my taste but amazing sounds though (especially with the Zen-core ability).
    Got the Circuit Tracks a few days ago and love the way you immediately craft songs and arrangements...and Novations track-record with all the fantastic updates on the og Circuit should be a major ”PRO” for the Circuit comparison.
    That was one of the reasons its my weapon of choice...right now that is. :)

  • @bambeeification
    @bambeeification 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which is better for finger drumming improvisation?

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hard to say, they're probably roughly equivalent. The Circuit is a bit more flexible, but the 101 has more sample slots that can play at once.

  • @alexandrepiel
    @alexandrepiel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my point of view, there is one key difference between those 2, and actually very important one. Zenoligy pro vs novation circuit component. Unlike the mc707, mc101 is limited on how to edit the synth patch, not even an LFO :-/ The only way to do your own patches is to buy zenoligy for 250€. On the other hand, novation circuit need also an external tool to edit the patches called novation circuit component that is for free (linux compatible!!) and with it you can build patches, backup your device... So in one way would make sense to even compare those 2 tools to edit your patches on your hardware.

  • @samprock
    @samprock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t get over Circuit has one mono sample at a time on drum tracks. In between Tracks and MC101 I will be choosing VerseLab :)

    • @GabeMillerMusic
      @GabeMillerMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fair. I'm hoping to try the Verselab soon, I read the spec sheet and don't understand why more people aren't super pumped for it.

    • @samprock
      @samprock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic Will love to see you playing it! I am spoiled by iOS Gadget, Cubasis and got Zenbeats from day one. Just upcoming integration with Verselab is a killer harness, both on a go with iOS and desktop on a studio table driving synths. (skipped on 101/707 due to lack of this integration, but i knew Roland is up to something with Zenbeats. Maybe even support other grooveboxes one day).
      But man, I like the Circuit pads and sequencer flow! (as in Launchpads and Push). One drum and two synth is too little to jam on a go. If at least Circuit could capture audio of from driving external synths to the same tracks it would be a real deal. Will keep waiting for Push Standalone, really hoped Circuit be closer to it. For pocket groovebox OP-Z is a s great. Love to learn more on Verselab. I think everyone should get zen-core in some shape or form eventually. All great stuff!

    • @EnochDark
      @EnochDark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabeMillerMusic because it's been cool to hate Roland for the past 10 years but nobody will admit that's why. everyone nitpicks the crap out of everything they make while giving Behringer endless praise. imho it's the price tags and nothing else.