Wish I had this video weeks ago. Been debating what tire to get for so long. Decided to go with the Pirelli’s. This video builds a lot of confidence in my decision, thanks!
Honestly shocked how competitive these budget brands have become, surprising results. I just wonder if it's snow performance where they will fall off a cliff...?
I've ran multiple sets of the pilot sports and DWS on my 2006 Lexus is350 and have always loved them. I recently switched to the Cobras though through you guys as they were significantly cheaper than the other 2 brands. I'm not upset at all. Right off the bat I could tell they had superb traction (in a straight line at least) in the dry and in the wet. With traction amd stability off i can't spin them at all when launching. Not the same story with the other 2 brand of tires lol. This set isn't as wide either. Normally I run 275's in the back but these were only 255's. Still hook up better.
Thanks for the results guys, yasss! I always use the dws06plus and another year confirmed its still the right choice. Just need that light snow handling test 😂
Man, that Pirelli is impressive and was my top choice last month (even after being disappointed w/ 2 different sets of Pirellis in the past). That said, I was able to purchase the DWS06+ for nearly $200 less. Hard to argue w/a 30% lower cost. Hopefully the Continentals hold up well. Now it's Michelin's turn as the PSAS4 is long in the tooth.
Dude! That opening shot is so sick! It’s like a shot from the Lincoln memorial looking over the reflecting pool! But in our case it’s Tire Racks building overlooking their test track. Haha
The only three tires in this test which are offered in a size I can use are the Conti, the General, and the BFG. I chose the Conti (over the AS-07s) to install last week onto my daily driver wheel setup since it appears to be (going by the tread pattern and seemingly softer sidewalls than what I am currently using) the most likely to be able to handle light snow capably, and hopefully the usual cold DRY weather we get here in the winter. If it weren't for that snow consideration, it appears that I could have chosen the Generals without any real warmer temp/summer/dry hit at all. I AM looking forward to that winter test to see how the Conti stacks up to the General and BFG. One tire, albeit ANCIENT (not merely 'long in the tooth'!) which I would have liked to see thrown in just because of it's almost endurance track tire-like grip, razor like turn-in response/feel, and overall dry (and wet when full tread depth) handling is the Nitto Neo Gen. Yes, it is useless in the snow, almost scary when worn a bit in the wet, and most likely noisier, rougher riding, and nowhere near 'cushy' enough for the 'luxury car tire feel' these testers demand than anything in this test, but it is impressive for something that is at least labeled as an UHP all season (it even has the deceptive M&S designation on the side wall! LOL). I realize that even though TR's parent company/current owners Discount Tire (Direct, when that still existed) carried these, but it seems that they demanded that TR drop them from their lineup once they became DT's sole online, non brick and mortar dealer, so their inclusion in any test could never happen.
The great part about this video is this: there are few better vs. worse comparisons, and far more pros vs cons. A performance all-season is an inherent compromise of characteristics, and only each driver can determine which compromises are acceptable, and which are no-go's for their given application and vehicle. To me, the lack of daily driver comforts for the Cooper, Michelin, and BFG make them less desirable, since a similar and better experience can be had with a dedicated summer tire. On the other hand, the Vredestein, Bridgestone, and Falken are not performance-oriented enough for the category. This leaves the remaining options (Conti, General, and Pirelli) as the best of both worlds, each with their own priorities (comfort, sportiness, and balance). It's hard to deny that the Pirelli is the clear outright winner, but value propositions may help the other two win out. All of these tires are miles better than the no name junk seen on so many "performance" vehicles.
I'd love if you guys could weigh in on Toyo's tires as well. They're the only manufacturer who makes the perfect size for my car (235/40/17), and I'm interested in how their Proxes Sport and Proxes Sport A/S stack up.
Wow this definitely surprised me great vid. Cant wait to see the all season stands touring test with all new continental TrueContact tour 54. When you said Pirelli was like a touring that was a shocker would be nice it had a eco benefit too some of these here got it. I know the vehicle plays a big part my biggest take way from this brand name doesn't mean everything i expected the pilot sport all season 4 to do better especially that price
We are sorry to hear this tire is not available in your size. We encourage you to try our Tire Decision Guide, which can help you find the right tires for your needs in two minutes or less. bit.ly/2nNOVTQ Please let us know if you have any additional questions!
I have 17"s on my '18 GTI. I ended up choosing the Michelins based on another TH-cam review comparing them to the Contis. So far, they feel pretty good. I hope to test them in light snow myself this winter.
Thank you for your comment! We wish we could test every tire, but unfortunately there has to be a limit just to keep a test manageable and consistent. However, we have tested the Goodyear Eagle Exhilarate in the past. Take a look at our full test report for more information: bit.ly/3Cfp5mc. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.
Now this is quality tire content. A class that’s super competitive and for the masses.
We are so happy to hear you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your feedback.
Wish I had this video weeks ago. Been debating what tire to get for so long. Decided to go with the Pirelli’s. This video builds a lot of confidence in my decision, thanks!
We are so happy to hear you found the video informative! Thank you for your feedback.
Honestly shocked how competitive these budget brands have become, surprising results. I just wonder if it's snow performance where they will fall off a cliff...?
More like mid-grade brands. But yes they are very competitive.
Usually yes
I'm impressed with your ability to talk normally while being thrown around violently in the car with all these switchback maneuvers.
That's just how we roll! 😂
I've ran multiple sets of the pilot sports and DWS on my 2006 Lexus is350 and have always loved them. I recently switched to the Cobras though through you guys as they were significantly cheaper than the other 2 brands. I'm not upset at all. Right off the bat I could tell they had superb traction (in a straight line at least) in the dry and in the wet. With traction amd stability off i can't spin them at all when launching. Not the same story with the other 2 brand of tires lol. This set isn't as wide either. Normally I run 275's in the back but these were only 255's. Still hook up better.
Before winter, will we have rolling resistance test for those high performance EV users?
Thanks for the results guys, yasss!
I always use the dws06plus and another year confirmed its still the right choice. Just need that light snow handling test 😂
We're thrilled to hear that you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your feedback.
Pirelli looks impressive
Pirelli will not do good on snow though
Man, that Pirelli is impressive and was my top choice last month (even after being disappointed w/ 2 different sets of Pirellis in the past). That said, I was able to purchase the DWS06+ for nearly $200 less. Hard to argue w/a 30% lower cost. Hopefully the Continentals hold up well. Now it's Michelin's turn as the PSAS4 is long in the tooth.
Dude! That opening shot is so sick! It’s like a shot from the Lincoln memorial looking over the reflecting pool! But in our case it’s Tire Racks building overlooking their test track. Haha
We are so happy to hear you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your feedback.
Well over 120k miles on 2 sets of Continental Extreme DWS 06 Plus on 2024 Acura RLX. Going on a 3rd set before it starts raining in CA. Love them.
We're so happy to hear these tires have hit the mark for you!
The only three tires in this test which are offered in a size I can use are the Conti, the General, and the BFG.
I chose the Conti (over the AS-07s) to install last week onto my daily driver wheel setup since it appears to be (going by the tread pattern and seemingly softer sidewalls than what I am currently using) the most likely to be able to handle light snow capably, and hopefully the usual cold DRY weather we get here in the winter.
If it weren't for that snow consideration, it appears that I could have chosen the Generals without any real warmer temp/summer/dry hit at all.
I AM looking forward to that winter test to see how the Conti stacks up to the General and BFG.
One tire, albeit ANCIENT (not merely 'long in the tooth'!) which I would have liked to see thrown in just because of it's almost endurance track tire-like grip, razor like turn-in response/feel, and overall dry (and wet when full tread depth) handling is the Nitto Neo Gen.
Yes, it is useless in the snow, almost scary when worn a bit in the wet, and most likely noisier, rougher riding, and nowhere near 'cushy' enough for the 'luxury car tire feel' these testers demand than anything in this test, but it is impressive for something that is at least labeled as an UHP all season (it even has the deceptive M&S designation on the side wall! LOL).
I realize that even though TR's parent company/current owners Discount Tire (Direct, when that still existed) carried these, but it seems that they demanded that TR drop them from their lineup once they became DT's sole online, non brick and mortar dealer, so their inclusion in any test could never happen.
The great part about this video is this: there are few better vs. worse comparisons, and far more pros vs cons. A performance all-season is an inherent compromise of characteristics, and only each driver can determine which compromises are acceptable, and which are no-go's for their given application and vehicle.
To me, the lack of daily driver comforts for the Cooper, Michelin, and BFG make them less desirable, since a similar and better experience can be had with a dedicated summer tire. On the other hand, the Vredestein, Bridgestone, and Falken are not performance-oriented enough for the category. This leaves the remaining options (Conti, General, and Pirelli) as the best of both worlds, each with their own priorities (comfort, sportiness, and balance).
It's hard to deny that the Pirelli is the clear outright winner, but value propositions may help the other two win out. All of these tires are miles better than the no name junk seen on so many "performance" vehicles.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.
Great review! 🎉
We are so happy to hear you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your feedback.
this test should really be done in December when the temps dip below 40 degrees... or better yet, in light snow!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing and will be sharing your feedback with our team!
I'd love if you guys could weigh in on Toyo's tires as well. They're the only manufacturer who makes the perfect size for my car (235/40/17), and I'm interested in how their Proxes Sport and Proxes Sport A/S stack up.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. We are always looking for ways to improve our testing and will be sharing your feedback with our team!
Wow this definitely surprised me great vid. Cant wait to see the all season stands touring test with all new continental TrueContact tour 54. When you said Pirelli was like a touring that was a shocker would be nice it had a eco benefit too some of these here got it. I know the vehicle plays a big part my biggest take way from this brand name doesn't mean everything i expected the pilot sport all season 4 to do better especially that price
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
Michelin is pricing themselves out too high. I remember when their prices was near the DWS 06+ prices.
@@MrTherandomvidsguyI agree i feel they're being cocky on that because they're the most know brand
What a fun job
It's definitely a blast!
It sucks that the P Zero is only available in bigger sizes! Only two 17" sizes available. Come on man.
We are sorry to hear this tire is not available in your size. We encourage you to try our Tire Decision Guide, which can help you find the right tires for your needs in two minutes or less. bit.ly/2nNOVTQ Please let us know if you have any additional questions!
I have 17"s on my '18 GTI. I ended up choosing the Michelins based on another TH-cam review comparing them to the Contis. So far, they feel pretty good. I hope to test them in light snow myself this winter.
Thank you.
We are so happy to hear you enjoyed the video!
Why no Goodyear Eagle Exhilarate?
Thank you for your comment! We wish we could test every tire, but unfortunately there has to be a limit just to keep a test manageable and consistent. However, we have tested the Goodyear Eagle Exhilarate in the past. Take a look at our full test report for more information: bit.ly/3Cfp5mc. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.