I could never tell if they did that on purpose or if they were just doing that because that's their idea of a typical slavic male, the high cheekbones and v shaped hairline are definitely very common among them
Laying the foundation of one simple task of killing Darko from the start of the game till the end and then all of sudden making it the most worthless thing to do in game shows how extreme R* can dig up to create a masterpiece.
@partyonsparty1875 the Yugoslav wars one of most deadliest war of Europe after WW2, millions of Refugees and hundred thousand deaths and it did resulted in good cause by Croatian gaining independence but still in the end no one won and there was only destruction and terror. It is one of the darkest wars in history and Niko even tho being a fictional character is perfectly portrayed as one of the victims of the War, seeing more than half of his relatives, friends and even his brother die fighting in war, all it brought was terror and some survivors like Niko even tho the war ended were stuck in the loop of Death and life. Even though a person might survive a war, the effects of it are still enough to destroy the person for the rest of his life. I don't know that much as I don't belong from the Yugoslav region but it is surely one of the worst war witnessed in history.
After all these years of uncertainty, anger and pain, Niko finally gets the revenge he seeks.. *enters luxury sports car and plays Because of You by Ne-Yo*
As someone who has played all GTA games including GTA London 1969, they are all in some way amazing and unique. GTA 2 was one of the first games I remember had day / night cycle. GTA 3 was one of the first open world 3d games. San Andreas was something never seen before. Rockstar always pushes the bar higher.
It's one of the realest lines in the GTA series. Niko finally has his hands on the "antagonist" who'd he's supposed to get his revenge on, but Darko is a mere shadow of himself, completely broken by trauma and guilt. Next to that, how much of a saint is Niko really? He'd probably killed friends of Darko, and other people. And became a human smuggler after that. Pretty sums up the Serbian war. After a point there was no morality anymore, just horribly traumatized people killing each other for revenge.
@ GTA III was good but it wasn’t better. There’s too many holes in the storyline for me with III and the game in retrospect just seems so short. A lot of side missions that stray away from the main conflict and purpose of the game which was getting Catalina one way or another. Every mission you do in IV is relevant to the plot and storyline at all times (except strangers and random events).
To be honest, if I just had to deal with something heavy, bowling would make me feel so much better. Get me beer and pizza and let me throw a 10lb ball at some strupid pins. I don't wanna think about things for a bit. Let it sit in storage for tomorrow. I wanna be with people who care. Bowling with my cousin would pull me back to earth.
“Maybe now that you know that revenge is not what you’re after, you can look for fulfillment in other places. Healthy ones” Man, Roman really grew up as well, throwing some banging wisdom
The squad Niko was a part of had 15 soldiers. 3 survived: Niko, Darko, and Florian. 12 died. When you realize that Niko shoots Darko 12 times. It's details like these in the story, which make GTA 4 the most well written GTA game in the franchise.
may look like a heroic thing to do but niko is no better than darko, he is a hired gun a cold killer that put price on life, that's why killing darko feel empty as fuck
Still surprised that Florian wasn’t in this cutscene (even in canon). I mean not only Niko survived of Darko betrayal, but Florian too and he himself has many reasons to hate Darko for this. It would be cool to see Florian’s reaction on Darko and his opinion on what Niko should do.
@@mabuhayimplottingyourdemis423 Even though I still would like to see his reaction and response on this situation. Like what would he want Niko to do with Darko. Kill him or left him, since Darko himself is suffering fate worse than death.
@@slasher19necroslayer42Bernie does have reaction. You call Bernie and Niko tells him he’s dead. Bernie tells him he needs to move on, just like he did. He wasn’t happy or angry about Darkos death since he has moved on his life already.
Without the broken nose and the bad teeth and skin they look almost exactly the same. In the end they are both worthless killers, empty inside, perpetuating the cycle of violence.
Eh, I remember when it came out a lot of fans didn't like how gritty and dark GTA IV was, since the earlier 3D games were more lighthearted. I think V struck a good balance of being more gonzo, while still having a few serious and dark moments (that doesn't mean I loved the writing, but the pacing was good). Ultimately GTA is a video game series where the main attraction is living out an absurd gangster power fantasy and that's going to make delivering a grounded story challenging.
@ some people still complain about gta 4 driving saying it’s too stiff but I honestly loved the driving in that game. It has been probably 15 years since I’ve played it tho so maybe it hasn’t aged as well as I remember it😂😂 it was still always my favorite gta
Cause the cars actually have weight like they do in the real world. It was the closest GTA came to realistic car physics anyone who claims otherwise thinks every car is an f1 car with unlimited down force and will put their car into a wall speeding into a turn someday.
Honestly this bothered me when I first played through until I realised each shot was for his friends, the scene wouldn’t have hit as hard if he reloaded halfway through
yea, it’s cuz the standard default pistol is a glock 17. so they had that cutscene tuned for the standard pistol but when you switch it up it doesnt match.
You ever notice how Nico's Russian accent slowly changes throughout the game, in the first missions, it's incredibly strong but at the end is not as pronounced and there's theres even hints of an American accent creeping into it. Very cool little detail by Rockstar!
Serbian accent, for Crissake. I know that all Eastern Europe is Russia in the mind of an average American but Russia and Serbia are still two different countries that even don't border each other.
@@coffeelighthuh While it's mentioned in-game that he's a Serb plenty of times, you can see why someone, not just Americans but literally anyone west of Czechia, would hear his generic Slav accent and assume he's Russian right?
I have three key points as to why Sparing Darko is actually canon and true. I think the true ending with Darko is Niko sparing him because Several times Roman has talked to Niko about his “stupid revenge plan” like when Roman and Niko talked about it after Niko killed Vlad that baked in Nikos mind. Revenge is a fools game in Rockstar Games. NIKO is no better than Darko, killing for money, Niko’s long blood covered trail to Darko doesn’t help his case or give him an excuse either. Niko was loyal. He doesn’t let nothing go, he’s to the T, he was set on finding and avenging his brothers, but like Niko says, much like his brothers; it would just be another dead person, this highlights the pointlessness in killing Darko aside from whats right
No, man I think killing darko is canon coz think about it, like why would niko come all the way to liberty city to spare him , he was literally doing anything for killing darko or florian, so, nah, I don't think so sparing is canon, And this mission is the turning point of the whole story even niko mentions at the end of this mission that he feels nothing after killing him,So, it says revenge is useless and people should move on from the past.
@@syedasif239that’s what I think too, killing Darko was definitely canon. Niko continues on with his life of perpetual violence and destruction, along with consequences as intended. Truly a masterpiece.
@@syedasif239it was what Niko wanted to do, but killing all he killed by the time he got here he realised that killing this dude would just be like killing a random gangbanger.
@@56.PD_the lost and damned hit just as hard as the 4 did Johnny line “I’m in a hot room with a mudering politician while my life falls all around me but fuck it Im all right” line hits hard in the middle of the game while eveyerthing Is going to shit peak rockstar in my opinion and gta
@@rigo5956 Yeah but still a kind of weak and short storyline. Not enough action if you ask me. Wasn’t terrible, but wasn’t “God tier” like this guy said. Gay Tony I liked better because you get some insight about of one of Niko’s biggest enemies Ray Bulgarin (and Timur).
@@56.PD_L&D and gay tony are still both worth playing. the sorta sub plot of all 3 games is about those diamonds that were on the ship niko came in on, and you only get the full story of them by playing all 3.
The wisdom shown by Niko in GTA 4 when his anger cools down and remorse emerges is like nothing else in all of GTA history, for now at least. We don't know Jason and Lucia's true colours, but that's another story for another day.
I did the same, killing him won't make any difference but being like same as Darko's actions. And killing him will just end his suffer. I mean think about since, Darko is in Liberty City and sparing him I don't think he wouldn't lasted a minute.
I hope Niko "went quiet" because he is trying harder to find his own peace, and not that he fed himself a bullet, because I could see it going either way with how dark his story is.
He did go underground or “went quiet” its confirmed by Lester in Gta5, Lester says something like “there was the eastern european guy making waves in liberty city but he’s gone quite” its heavily implied to be Niko
0:42 Samo mi reci zašto? Bili smo prijatelji. Svi smo bili prijatelji. Svi smo zajedno odrasli... Mitar ,Goran, Dragan, Mijo. Da nastavim i da ih sve imenujem...
Sad imamo veštačku inteligenciju, neko mora da konačno uradi normalnu sinhronizaciju, u koji Niko govori bez greška. Prevod već postoji, tako da hajde! Želim, da moj junak lepo govori na srpskom!
I like how sometimes if you are running to a checkpoint in gta 4 it will just show niko barge in to the area like Kramer before walking at a normal cutscene pace
When I first played this mission years ago, and only recently did the same, I remember always sparing Darko. Why? For one because I was always a cheap bastard for ammo. For the other because I seldom skipped cutscenes (yes, a Zoomer actually paying attention when they were 13 exists), and understood most of Niko's past through his story. If you actually pay attention to the game, either choice you make doesn't affect anything from thereon. It is purely a blank choice with no consequence. You don't lose money, you won't lose friends, you won't have anyone come after you in a cyclic revenge story that Niko wanted, you just move on with the game, with (ideally) one last mission with Jimmy left. However, I like to see this mission in a spiritual manner, particularly towards the concepts of Wrath and Patience. In many religions, Patience is reverred as [one] of the highest virtues and ethical norms one can pursue, and philosophical perspectives on the matter, such as Stoicism, argue that it is better than what you choose to want than need. In contrast, Wrath (not to be cofused with revenge or punishment), stands on the side that one would choose to hate another. Fueled by this anger towards said person, they become blind to everything but them, and their families, friends and own selves mean nothing to them, as they only let their hatred dictate their life. Niko is a character that we have all come to love and understand throughout the game, and for his life to be dictated by hatred by killing Darko is not what I would prefer for him. It also speaks monumental words that Bernie (Florian) was able to let go of his past and move on with his life, even going so far as to change his name and start anew in a country where he can at least be free to not let that past haunt him anymore, but many people don't see that with Niko. He came to America with the sole intention of finding and confronting two men from his days in the military, not necessarily stating he wants to kill them (at least from what his dialogue with Roman at the end of 'Uncle Vlad' states). And even if you don't want to be like me and not spend more money on ammo or follow an ethical norm I've been raised around, keep in mind that Darko isn't a threat if you spare him. He literally runs off and is never seen or heard from again by anyone. Not just that, he's at an airport, and running towards a hangar bay area, which definitely would have some security who would detain him for trespassing. Do whatever you like, but Niko isn't a monster, and this choice, along with the one you make afterwards, determines how you think every man should be despite their situations and battles they're already fighting hard for.
I like this play through knowing according to Lester Nico went quiet and packie doesnt talk of him as dead in gta v (suggesting he’s probably alive). But we also know he’s not with Kate which suggests Roman actually dies (Packie seemed rather upbeat in gta v n not like a guy traumatized by his innocent sisters murder).
During talking scenes like this in your videos where their driving and chatting, I feel you would improve the cinematic, by walking and recording the conversation or driving normal, obeying red lights etc, makes the scene look more surreal
"So thats makes it ok? To stab your friends in the back?" Niko, you were bretayed during a war. So thats makes it ok? To become a criminal, kill hundreds of people and getting involved in human trafficking?
That's kinda the point of the "how much do you charge to kill" line. Niko ISN'T much better. He is a little, in that he's remorseful and fiercely protective of his friends, but not by much, as he is still a violent man who threw his life away and became an unscrupulous gun for hire whose hands are drenched in even more blood than Darko's. The big difference between them is that Darko completrly resigned himself to being an untrustable backstabber who would sell out everyone he knew for a nosefull while Niko is still able and willing to break his fall and be the good person Kate tells him he is
The sad reality that we will never see video games come out with this sort of hard hitting content. I remember people calling this era of games as a "gritty, dark" era, which is probably why we have games now with a 10 hour storyline and zero substance anymore. Very lucky to still be able to enjoy this title, it won't be long before we get a shitty remaster and the originals are erased from the internet like VC and SA
4:55 - I thought that revenge, that killing Darko might fill me up a bit. It might give me some substance. - And it hasn't? - No, it hasn't. Does this make you happy? - Yes. *Let's go bowling!*
Worst is this happened in reality on Balkan war. Yugoslavia tore apart because usa was involved in. Everyone wanted part of power. Usa was pretending they didnt. But they always did involve themselves for decades. Darko betrayed Niko and his unit because his unit killed his mslim friends in village they lived. This happened on Kosovo. He didn't care for how much, he already was gone and sank his depression on drugs.
Yes, always blame the US for local bastards want their power and criminal society that'd keep their authority. And Darko never told the friends were Muslim. Where did you take it from?
@@coffeelighthuhLocal bastards that'd want their power and a criminal society that'd keep their authority? That sounds a bloody lot like the US, in fact. Your country has committed genocide, sabotage, terrorism, coups and robbery on half the world since WW2.
I always wonder about the difference between justice and revenge in these situations games put you in. As much as Roman is trying to convince you to let him live, it's couched in terms of letting him suffer MORE. Letting him continue to be miserable. In other narratives, there's the idea that killing him would be wrong because of any other possible motivation. I kind of wonder... when is it better, justice not revenge, to end him? Is it mercy to let his friend rest after his long torture? Could he turn it around? Florian did. ... Niko didn't.
In my first and only 100% playtrought i took darko down , and roman got angry at niko and me....the same guy that would be totally fine with me and niko betraying dwayne for money... I like roman but sometimes he's way too much of a hipocrite to just ignore.
I remember walking into the guy over and over again because it was funny watching the ragdoll physics but after a few times he died when he fell over. Awkward.... I should really replay this one day, probably the best GTA imo. If only the PC port wasn't hot garbage.
this is the emotional response naughty dog wanted players to feel in the last of us 2 ending but it didn’t work, i still wanted abby dead af yet here it felt worthless to kill Darko
In the four or five times I've played through GTA IV, I never once killed Darko. Mostly because Roman is there, and he clearly knows it won't bring Niko any peace.
My favorite GTA IV game I remember first playing it when I was an 8 year old spending summer in United States (I live in Poland). Like one week before playing it at my cousins house I've actually seen New York for the first time. Unreal feeling. Wish I could be a child again
Games like this used to have dialogue that felt real, that felt realistic, felt human, it had emotion it. Written by people who had passion. Now most big games have the dialogue were every passion is squeezed out of. But hey, at least we now have game characters doing push ups if they misgender someone. Pathetic.
This is a cold moment indeed but I gotta say, I kinda hate the "Kill or leave" choice here, it'd be interesting if there was a secret choice of just shooting him in the leg or something, to show that Niko can kill him anytime he wants, he just chooses not too and that scar will always remind Drako of that Idk if I'm the only one that wants a choice like that but I think it's interesting
It’s a mark of brilliant storytelling that he’s probably the person you’ve the most reason to kill in the series, but I couldn’t bring myself to kill him
Imo R* messed this one up. I loved how the whole story turns around niko finding darko to get his revenge, and the emptyness it brought him afterwards. But then for the final mission make him successfully kill dimitri as revenge and finishing the story at that...
Imo they didn't mess up as your decision here fits with one of the two endings. If you get revenge, then that fits with killing Dimitri instead of going thourgh with the deal as niko would still want revenge against him. Letting darko go fits with the deal ending as niko would rather go through the deal instead of getting revenge against Dimitri, letting him go, but romans death would make niko think he made the wrong decision, pushing him to get revenge
I spared Darko because killing him would be the same as what Darko did, but in the bright side, probably Darko won't last in Liberty City because he doesn't even knew where he is and he might get gangbang by some random people in LC.
Damn, I’m gonna have to replay this game as a full adult now. I didn’t get the subtext they were talking about until just now. The whole “they killed my neighbors” thing was a reference to the Serbian war, I think.
Vengeance is a twisted thing. When we are wronged badly enough, we make getting satisfaction our reason for being. It consumes us, becomes the one thing driving us forward. And then should we get our revenge, and come down from the high, what do we have left?
Rockstar needs to remaster this game. Just add the gta 5 driving physics like they did the trilogy and bam fixed. Id even pay 60 for this again. This mission hits hard right there with garrus loyalty mission in mass effect 2. Similar situations sidonis a squadmate betrays the entire group gets everyone except garrus killed. And that decision haunts him and we decides his fate. Sidonis and darko are the same being in a different universe
Feeling empty isn't something just killers feel, addicts, victims, or the handicapped feel similar to Niko which is what makes him gta's Arthur Morgan. A strong man who has done horrible things but wants to do and be better. Or be a serial killer depending how you play🤣
Whenever I replay GTA IV, how I deal with Darko Brevic is how I choose whether to do the deal or kill Dimitri. If I have Niko kill Darko, I also have him kill Dimitri due to Niko not being able to let go of his revenge. If instead he spares Darko, I have him do the deal which ultimately gets Roman killed.
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Always really stuck with me that they designed Darko to kind of look like a rock bottom drug addicted Niko
I could never tell if they did that on purpose or if they were just doing that because that's their idea of a typical slavic male, the high cheekbones and v shaped hairline are definitely very common among them
@@JohnMarston-g6w They definitely did that on purpose, that can't be a coincidence
@@JohnMarston-g6w Darko is literally Niko's dark reflection
*_PART 2_*
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@@JohnMarston-g6w i mean yeah I'm half Polish and look very similar to Niko lmao
Strange thing is Roman drops the single most rational line of dialogue in this scene.
Yeah, roman was based as fk - especially at the end.
Roman was always simple but also very rational.
Besides the gambling part
Roman's always says rational shit, he makes a lot of jokes but when he's serious he's serious.
I don’t know what you’re talking about, he doesn’t mention bowling at all in this video
Laying the foundation of one simple task of killing Darko from the start of the game till the end and then all of sudden making it the most worthless thing to do in game shows how extreme R* can dig up to create a masterpiece.
Especially if you let him live and he just runs away like a random pedestrian and eventually gets hit by a car or runs into the ocean 😂
yea its pretty poignant especially if youre familiar with the history of that dark war.
@JimiFarkle what war? Genuinely curious
@partyonsparty1875 the Yugoslav wars one of most deadliest war of Europe after WW2, millions of Refugees and hundred thousand deaths and it did resulted in good cause by Croatian gaining independence but still in the end no one won and there was only destruction and terror. It is one of the darkest wars in history and Niko even tho being a fictional character is perfectly portrayed as one of the victims of the War, seeing more than half of his relatives, friends and even his brother die fighting in war, all it brought was terror and some survivors like Niko even tho the war ended were stuck in the loop of Death and life. Even though a person might survive a war, the effects of it are still enough to destroy the person for the rest of his life. I don't know that much as I don't belong from the Yugoslav region but it is surely one of the worst war witnessed in history.
@@partyonsparty1875did you play through the game
After all these years of uncertainty, anger and pain, Niko finally gets the revenge he seeks..
*enters luxury sports car and plays Because of You by Ne-Yo*
i got a problem and I...
@@alexriel_DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT EVEN IF I DID I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD QUIT
@@KingShibe it brought me back, homie. thanks 🤝
We getting old 😫🙏🏽
There's certain songs I was alive for when they were popular and playing all over the radio, but now all I think of hearing them is GTA games.
This game is 16 years old and still remains as one of the best GTA games.
It is the best, GTA V is next and Vice City third
San Andreas is the GOAT 🐐
@@raimo41ah a man of culture
so ur saying that drunk glitch was 16 years ago. what. the. hell.
As someone who has played all GTA games including GTA London 1969, they are all in some way amazing and unique. GTA 2 was one of the first games I remember had day / night cycle. GTA 3 was one of the first open world 3d games. San Andreas was something never seen before. Rockstar always pushes the bar higher.
"How much do you charge to kill" hit Niko hard
It's one of the realest lines in the GTA series. Niko finally has his hands on the "antagonist" who'd he's supposed to get his revenge on, but Darko is a mere shadow of himself, completely broken by trauma and guilt. Next to that, how much of a saint is Niko really? He'd probably killed friends of Darko, and other people. And became a human smuggler after that. Pretty sums up the Serbian war. After a point there was no morality anymore, just horribly traumatized people killing each other for revenge.
@@BlondieTH-camnah, the realest line in gta was, "what you saw the other day... was a guy dealing with the pests."
@@Holderman-v6e nah it actually was, "All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!"
"Don't worry, for you it's free"
Like... $5000 if we go by what he charged Francis
Brucie is playing in my mind
"Ice cold niko! Ice fuckin cold! Thats some red army shit".
😂😂😂😂
@@redlegs2338 Pushin it to the max! Wait you think im gay?!
“Eh brucie I don’t think Niko needs to hear that right now.”
“Ay why not, Roman?”
Love that they're in Silent Hill for some reason
when the video started I was like, which horror game is this?
In my endless dreams… I see him, Drako
@@MikotoJinba*restless
Because mist can only exist in Silent Hill.
@@turanx0 well it also just has that lonely eerie vibe as well
GTA IV had the best storyline by far of all the GTA’s and there is a 0% chance of changing my mind
not saying gta v has an awful story but iv and the DLCs really do knock it out the water
@ GTA V was more of a reckless storyline…first game you had 3 protagonists to play as too
GTA3 was much better. Above all I liked the deep philosophical dialogue by the protagonist.
@ GTA III was good but it wasn’t better. There’s too many holes in the storyline for me with III and the game in retrospect just seems so short. A lot of side missions that stray away from the main conflict and purpose of the game which was getting Catalina one way or another. Every mission you do in IV is relevant to the plot and storyline at all times (except strangers and random events).
The only rival is San Andreas
"Its all over now, hey let's go bowling"
12 ROUNDS NIKO!! 12 ROUNDS!!
To be honest, if I just had to deal with something heavy, bowling would make me feel so much better. Get me beer and pizza and let me throw a 10lb ball at some strupid pins. I don't wanna think about things for a bit. Let it sit in storage for tomorrow. I wanna be with people who care. Bowling with my cousin would pull me back to earth.
This game makes GTA V look like a children's story.
It is.
They both good different way, never meant to be compared
GTA sa better than v
“Maybe now that you know that revenge is not what you’re after, you can look for fulfillment in other places. Healthy ones”
Man, Roman really grew up as well, throwing some banging wisdom
The squad Niko was a part of had 15 soldiers. 3 survived: Niko, Darko, and Florian. 12 died.
When you realize that Niko shoots Darko 12 times.
It's details like these in the story, which make GTA 4 the most well written GTA game in the franchise.
may look like a heroic thing to do but niko is no better than darko, he is a hired gun a cold killer that put price on life, that's why killing darko feel empty as fuck
Looks like he was trying too shoot 2 times more but out of ammo
Shame that gun should only hold 7-9 rounds
And also says "That was for everyone.. That was for me!" which backs it up as well
@@sickboy7252 No heroes here. It's all personal. Pure hate and revenge.
"Eeeyh NIKO, American Tiddies!" to "Niko, leave him, he doesnt look to enjoy life too much no more".
Yeah this game is deep for sure, I never realized it back then
I cant imagine Niko having a better friend than Roman
Fr!
Friend? He is family
Bowling?
@@Bysior88😂😂
not all family are friends though @@sureyeah3678
Still surprised that Florian wasn’t in this cutscene (even in canon). I mean not only Niko survived of Darko betrayal, but Florian too and he himself has many reasons to hate Darko for this. It would be cool to see Florian’s reaction on Darko and his opinion on what Niko should do.
Having Florian along is pointless when he was trying to move on from what happened even if he still hates Darko
@@mabuhayimplottingyourdemis423 Even though I still would like to see his reaction and response on this situation. Like what would he want Niko to do with Darko. Kill him or left him, since Darko himself is suffering fate worse than death.
@@slasher19necroslayer42Bernie does have reaction. You call Bernie and Niko tells him he’s dead. Bernie tells him he needs to move on, just like he did. He wasn’t happy or angry about Darkos death since he has moved on his life already.
Florian had moved on and wasn't haunted by the past anymore
@@ryanconnolly426Florian was dreaming about the NSFW contents😂
One of my favorite game quotes: "I'm the one. Who survived!"
Man took a dozen desert Eagle rounds like a pro
I like how he looks like Niko. Him looking in a mirror. Gta v is really shit comparison
Majority people on Balkan are like Darko, Roman and Niko.
Without drugs.
Thats just how eastern Europe people are lol
Without the broken nose and the bad teeth and skin they look almost exactly the same.
In the end they are both worthless killers, empty inside, perpetuating the cycle of violence.
@@JohnMarston-g6w not really
Bro we get it youre a brain dead nostalgic fanboy now stfu and stop being obsessed with gta 5
I wish R* would go back to these mature deep storylines, they really shine in comparison to what they're putting out now
I’m hoping to see that in GTA6. Have a dark and mature theme and tone to it. RDR2 did it as well.
@@solidmage1720lmao good luck
Did you not play Red Dead Redemption II?
Have you even played RDR2...?
Eh, I remember when it came out a lot of fans didn't like how gritty and dark GTA IV was, since the earlier 3D games were more lighthearted. I think V struck a good balance of being more gonzo, while still having a few serious and dark moments (that doesn't mean I loved the writing, but the pacing was good). Ultimately GTA is a video game series where the main attraction is living out an absurd gangster power fantasy and that's going to make delivering a grounded story challenging.
This game dropped in 2008 man that’s wild. Still got some of the best driving and physics in a gta game no lie
All the nerds screamed and cried about the driving when it launched in the usual THIS IS NEW AND DIFFERENT AND NOT WHAT IM USED TO method 😂
@ some people still complain about gta 4 driving saying it’s too stiff but I honestly loved the driving in that game. It has been probably 15 years since I’ve played it tho so maybe it hasn’t aged as well as I remember it😂😂 it was still always my favorite gta
Cause the cars actually have weight like they do in the real world. It was the closest GTA came to realistic car physics anyone who claims otherwise thinks every car is an f1 car with unlimited down force and will put their car into a wall speeding into a turn someday.
@ exactly. They were pretty realistic physics for road cars. The previous games were very simple.
I forgot how great video games used to be… spent hundreds of hours chillin in the multiplayer with my friends. What great times.
"How much do you charge to kill someone?" That one line puts everything into perspective, the only good man there was Roman lol
One shot for every one of nikos fallen friends. True story
I love how even in this critical moment for Niko, Roman is still like "Yo can you give me a lift??"
Niko's Deagle:
Has 9 bullets in a mag
Fires 12 shots through one mag
*Rockstar Logic*
Honestly this bothered me when I first played through until I realised each shot was for his friends, the scene wouldn’t have hit as hard if he reloaded halfway through
There's also the pistol which looks like a Glock 17 which has a 17+1 capacity
Niko Signature hanguns is G17 has 17 bullet
yea, it’s cuz the standard default pistol is a glock 17. so they had that cutscene tuned for the standard pistol but when you switch it up it doesnt match.
But the dude eating 12 bullets is logical for you
You ever notice how Nico's Russian accent slowly changes throughout the game, in the first missions, it's incredibly strong but at the end is not as pronounced and there's theres even hints of an American accent creeping into it. Very cool little detail by Rockstar!
Why the fuck would he have a Russian accent if he's Serbian?
Serbian accent, for Crissake. I know that all Eastern Europe is Russia in the mind of an average American but Russia and Serbia are still two different countries that even don't border each other.
@@coffeelighthuhas someone from the region, his accent sounds more russian than serbian lmao
@@donsmith2588 And he actually voiced by an American actor 😄 K, the point is complicated.
@@coffeelighthuh While it's mentioned in-game that he's a Serb plenty of times, you can see why someone, not just Americans but literally anyone west of Czechia, would hear his generic Slav accent and assume he's Russian right?
I have three key points as to why Sparing Darko is actually canon and true.
I think the true ending with Darko is Niko sparing him because Several times Roman has talked to Niko about his “stupid revenge plan” like when Roman and Niko talked about it after Niko killed Vlad that baked in Nikos mind.
Revenge is a fools game in Rockstar Games.
NIKO is no better than Darko, killing for money, Niko’s long blood covered trail to Darko doesn’t help his case or give him an excuse either.
Niko was loyal. He doesn’t let nothing go, he’s to the T, he was set on finding and avenging his brothers, but like Niko says, much like his brothers; it would just be another dead person, this highlights the pointlessness in killing Darko aside from whats right
No, man I think killing darko is canon coz think about it, like why would niko come all the way to liberty city to spare him , he was literally doing anything for killing darko or florian, so, nah, I don't think so sparing is canon, And this mission is the turning point of the whole story even niko mentions at the end of this mission that he feels nothing after killing him,So, it says revenge is useless and people should move on from the past.
@@syedasif239that’s what I think too, killing Darko was definitely canon. Niko continues on with his life of perpetual violence and destruction, along with consequences as intended. Truly a masterpiece.
@@syedasif239it was what Niko wanted to do, but killing all he killed by the time he got here he realised that killing this dude would just be like killing a random gangbanger.
And besides, Darko is a dead man anyway. In a few years he'll OD in a ditch somewhere and death will have his day with Darko.
dude niko got so much angry about him. He would definitely kill him. And after killing him he would feel empty, like he did.
The 2 DLCs for this game were also god tier 😪
Facts!
Gay Tony was way better than L&D
@@56.PD_the lost and damned hit just as hard as the 4 did Johnny line “I’m in a hot room with a mudering politician while my life falls all around me but fuck it Im all right” line hits hard in the middle of the game while eveyerthing Is going to shit peak rockstar in my opinion and gta
@@rigo5956 Yeah but still a kind of weak and short storyline. Not enough action if you ask me. Wasn’t terrible, but wasn’t “God tier” like this guy said. Gay Tony I liked better because you get some insight about of one of Niko’s biggest enemies Ray Bulgarin (and Timur).
@@56.PD_L&D and gay tony are still both worth playing. the sorta sub plot of all 3 games is about those diamonds that were on the ship niko came in on, and you only get the full story of them by playing all 3.
The wisdom shown by Niko in GTA 4 when his anger cools down and remorse emerges is like nothing else in all of GTA history, for now at least. We don't know Jason and Lucia's true colours, but that's another story for another day.
I'd rather leave him than killing him because:
1. Killing him won't bring anyone or anything back
2. He can enjoy his (guilt) trip
It's better to let him go because he wants niko to end him
I did the same, killing him won't make any difference but being like same as Darko's actions.
And killing him will just end his suffer. I mean think about since, Darko is in Liberty City and sparing him I don't think he wouldn't lasted a minute.
I hope Niko "went quiet" because he is trying harder to find his own peace, and not that he fed himself a bullet, because I could see it going either way with how dark his story is.
That probably would depend on whether Roman lived or died in the story I’m guessing
He did go underground or “went quiet” its confirmed by Lester in Gta5, Lester says something like “there was the eastern european guy making waves in liberty city but he’s gone quite” its heavily implied to be Niko
And this is why I always take the deal way and not the revenge.
GTA IV is criminally underrated.
It’s one the best selling games of its time, tops the charts during the 2000s, fym underrated? I grew up playing it alongside Saints Row on the 360.
@@RADukuraball knower 🤝
Cant eat hot dogs in gta5 - points for gta4
So criminal it got 4 stars
0:42 Samo mi reci zašto? Bili smo prijatelji. Svi smo bili prijatelji. Svi smo zajedno odrasli... Mitar ,Goran, Dragan, Mijo. Da nastavim i da ih sve imenujem...
Sad imamo veštačku inteligenciju, neko mora da konačno uradi normalnu sinhronizaciju, u koji Niko govori bez greška. Prevod već postoji, tako da hajde! Želim, da moj junak lepo govori na srpskom!
@@RichieLarpa Радије бих праве гласовне глумце него вештачку интелигенцију.
It was never even worth it in the end.
I like how sometimes if you are running to a checkpoint in gta 4 it will just show niko barge in to the area like Kramer before walking at a normal cutscene pace
You know it's deep when even Roman is almost silent throughout.
When I first played this mission years ago, and only recently did the same, I remember always sparing Darko.
Why?
For one because I was always a cheap bastard for ammo.
For the other because I seldom skipped cutscenes (yes, a Zoomer actually paying attention when they were 13 exists), and understood most of Niko's past through his story. If you actually pay attention to the game, either choice you make doesn't affect anything from thereon. It is purely a blank choice with no consequence. You don't lose money, you won't lose friends, you won't have anyone come after you in a cyclic revenge story that Niko wanted, you just move on with the game, with (ideally) one last mission with Jimmy left.
However, I like to see this mission in a spiritual manner, particularly towards the concepts of Wrath and Patience. In many religions, Patience is reverred as [one] of the highest virtues and ethical norms one can pursue, and philosophical perspectives on the matter, such as Stoicism, argue that it is better than what you choose to want than need. In contrast, Wrath (not to be cofused with revenge or punishment), stands on the side that one would choose to hate another. Fueled by this anger towards said person, they become blind to everything but them, and their families, friends and own selves mean nothing to them, as they only let their hatred dictate their life.
Niko is a character that we have all come to love and understand throughout the game, and for his life to be dictated by hatred by killing Darko is not what I would prefer for him. It also speaks monumental words that Bernie (Florian) was able to let go of his past and move on with his life, even going so far as to change his name and start anew in a country where he can at least be free to not let that past haunt him anymore, but many people don't see that with Niko.
He came to America with the sole intention of finding and confronting two men from his days in the military, not necessarily stating he wants to kill them (at least from what his dialogue with Roman at the end of 'Uncle Vlad' states).
And even if you don't want to be like me and not spend more money on ammo or follow an ethical norm I've been raised around, keep in mind that Darko isn't a threat if you spare him. He literally runs off and is never seen or heard from again by anyone. Not just that, he's at an airport, and running towards a hangar bay area, which definitely would have some security who would detain him for trespassing.
Do whatever you like, but Niko isn't a monster, and this choice, along with the one you make afterwards, determines how you think every man should be despite their situations and battles they're already fighting hard for.
I like this play through knowing according to Lester Nico went quiet and packie doesnt talk of him as dead in gta v (suggesting he’s probably alive). But we also know he’s not with Kate which suggests Roman actually dies (Packie seemed rather upbeat in gta v n not like a guy traumatized by his innocent sisters murder).
During talking scenes like this in your videos where their driving and chatting, I feel you would improve the cinematic, by walking and recording the conversation or driving normal, obeying red lights etc, makes the scene look more surreal
"So thats makes it ok? To stab your friends in the back?"
Niko, you were bretayed during a war. So thats makes it ok? To become a criminal, kill hundreds of people and getting involved in human trafficking?
That's kinda the point of the "how much do you charge to kill" line. Niko ISN'T much better. He is a little, in that he's remorseful and fiercely protective of his friends, but not by much, as he is still a violent man who threw his life away and became an unscrupulous gun for hire whose hands are drenched in even more blood than Darko's.
The big difference between them is that Darko completrly resigned himself to being an untrustable backstabber who would sell out everyone he knew for a nosefull while Niko is still able and willing to break his fall and be the good person Kate tells him he is
bro is playing gta 4 expanded and enhanced
The sad reality that we will never see video games come out with this sort of hard hitting content. I remember people calling this era of games as a "gritty, dark" era, which is probably why we have games now with a 10 hour storyline and zero substance anymore. Very lucky to still be able to enjoy this title, it won't be long before we get a shitty remaster and the originals are erased from the internet like VC and SA
honestly niko would never spare that guy. He had so much angry within him
If you just listen to what darko is saying and have sympathy for life. You’d understand Niko is no better. Killing darko is just a bad morality.
This is the exact moment when the Auto was Thefted Grandly
Imagine he survives after all those shots and Many Men starts playing 😂
GTA4 is the only GTA that holds a candle to RDR 1 and 2 in terms of writing. It’s a shame how the story in 5 was treated more like a Michael Bay film.
That was intentional though , i hope gta6 has a more mature story and it looks like it might , trailer had dark moments in it
Literally, the coldest...
We can only pray that GTA VI is as well written as IV, IV is better than a lot of mafia movies.
The radio in the car really added to the atmosphere
Seeing Niko brake to a stop every scene is funny to me.
4:55
- I thought that revenge, that killing Darko might fill me up a bit. It might give me some substance.
- And it hasn't?
- No, it hasn't. Does this make you happy?
- Yes. *Let's go bowling!*
Betraying the squad for a grand hits Niko so hard because he makes so much more than that by just hanging with Little Jacob
Hopping in the car after executing a man and hearing Ne-yo blasting on the radio 😂 when he was like “I’m turning this OFF” was so real lol
Worst is this happened in reality on Balkan war.
Yugoslavia tore apart because usa was involved in.
Everyone wanted part of power.
Usa was pretending they didnt.
But they always did involve themselves for decades.
Darko betrayed Niko and his unit because his unit killed his mslim friends in village they lived.
This happened on Kosovo.
He didn't care for how much, he already was gone and sank his depression on drugs.
Yes, always blame the US for local bastards want their power and criminal society that'd keep their authority. And Darko never told the friends were Muslim. Where did you take it from?
@@coffeelighthuhLocal bastards that'd want their power and a criminal society that'd keep their authority? That sounds a bloody lot like the US, in fact. Your country has committed genocide, sabotage, terrorism, coups and robbery on half the world since WW2.
I always wonder about the difference between justice and revenge in these situations games put you in.
As much as Roman is trying to convince you to let him live, it's couched in terms of letting him suffer MORE. Letting him continue to be miserable.
In other narratives, there's the idea that killing him would be wrong because of any other possible motivation.
I kind of wonder... when is it better, justice not revenge, to end him?
Is it mercy to let his friend rest after his long torture? Could he turn it around? Florian did.
... Niko didn't.
Niko didn't because he was drowned in his thrist for revenge, while Darko would never, because of his guilt.
Niko does in the end. He chills out and starts working as a proper cab driver
@@jonathanpilcher337 I didn't know that, I thought he continued to live in sadness until the end... Good to know!
@@maria.menezess yea he posts online in 5
It’s surprising UL Paper even gave Darko to Nico. Not arresting him was reward enough.
Niko could testify against all the corrupt things ULP and the IAA are doing
First time I played the mission the weather was raining. I thought it was part of the mission. Absolute cinema
In my first and only 100% playtrought i took darko down , and roman got angry at niko and me....the same guy that would be totally fine with me and niko betraying dwayne for money...
I like roman but sometimes he's way too much of a hipocrite to just ignore.
Nice outfit and graphics mod
Are we gonna ignore how many shots from a deagle it took to finish him off? 😂
This was probably the only time I felt very emotional while playing this game.
This was the HARDEST decision .
I remember walking into the guy over and over again because it was funny watching the ragdoll physics but after a few times he died when he fell over. Awkward....
I should really replay this one day, probably the best GTA imo. If only the PC port wasn't hot garbage.
this is the emotional response naughty dog wanted players to feel in the last of us 2 ending but it didn’t work, i still wanted abby dead af yet here it felt worthless to kill Darko
I played this game as a young teenager. I wish I could've better understood this game as an adult.
In the four or five times I've played through GTA IV, I never once killed Darko. Mostly because Roman is there, and he clearly knows it won't bring Niko any peace.
My favorite GTA IV game I remember first playing it when I was an 8 year old spending summer in United States (I live in Poland). Like one week before playing it at my cousins house I've actually seen New York for the first time. Unreal feeling. Wish I could be a child again
Games like this used to have dialogue that felt real, that felt realistic, felt human, it had emotion it. Written by people who had passion.
Now most big games have the dialogue were every passion is squeezed out of. But hey, at least we now have game characters doing push ups if they misgender someone.
Pathetic.
Preach.
This is a cold moment indeed but I gotta say, I kinda hate the "Kill or leave" choice here, it'd be interesting if there was a secret choice of just shooting him in the leg or something, to show that Niko can kill him anytime he wants, he just chooses not too and that scar will always remind Drako of that
Idk if I'm the only one that wants a choice like that but I think it's interesting
Nikos one of the best characters ever made this game is just something else everything about it is perfect
Easily in my top five favorite games of all time absolute masterpiece
It’s a mark of brilliant storytelling that he’s probably the person you’ve the most reason to kill in the series, but I couldn’t bring myself to kill him
Crazy it took 12 shots from a DESERT EAGLE to kill one guy😂
You would be amazed... I saw one video of a police officer taking down a suspect, it took 15 bullets before the suspect fell to the ground.
@@christianriddler5063but desert eagle bullet it's big. one shot and your entire head will end up splashed to the wall
@@latenight4182 That's true.
After eating 25 bullets from a deagle he was still making noises wtf
I don't remember this scene taking place in silent hill
You're supposed to let Darko live with his demons
Imo R* messed this one up. I loved how the whole story turns around niko finding darko to get his revenge, and the emptyness it brought him afterwards. But then for the final mission make him successfully kill dimitri as revenge and finishing the story at that...
Imo they didn't mess up as your decision here fits with one of the two endings. If you get revenge, then that fits with killing Dimitri instead of going thourgh with the deal as niko would still want revenge against him. Letting darko go fits with the deal ending as niko would rather go through the deal instead of getting revenge against Dimitri, letting him go, but romans death would make niko think he made the wrong decision, pushing him to get revenge
Remastered or not; this game will always be one of my favorites ❤
I spared Darko because killing him would be the same as what Darko did, but in the bright side, probably Darko won't last in Liberty City because he doesn't even knew where he is and he might get gangbang by some random people in LC.
nonsense is not a nist, I would have contacted the embassy and they would have helped him there
The guy died so hard that he broke his handcuffs
Over penetration is a thing.
This is so hard to walk away from this bit
I spared Darko, Roman's words got to me. Roman lost the most in the war, but he had a heart of gold, he chose to be meek, that's a lot.
Even still, his life changed the moment Niko got off the boat. Mostly for the worst.
Well im sure gta6 will top that! It wont be a steaming pile. Wink. Wink.
Nice driving
Love the way Roman randomly spawns a jacket
Damn, I’m gonna have to replay this game as a full adult now.
I didn’t get the subtext they were talking about until just now. The whole “they killed my neighbors” thing was a reference to the Serbian war, I think.
Niko thinks he's Frank West
Niko thinks that guy began the zombie virus
he’s covered wars, yk.
Niko thinks he's a searcher
Masterpiece.
I'm looking forward to GTA VII in Liberty City ☺️
Niko was so disappointed that Darko accepted 1000 dollars while he charges 5000
Vengeance is a twisted thing. When we are wronged badly enough, we make getting satisfaction our reason for being. It consumes us, becomes the one thing driving us forward. And then should we get our revenge, and come down from the high, what do we have left?
The best game of all time...i seriously cant think of a better game and ive been playing them since 1994
Rockstar needs to remaster this game. Just add the gta 5 driving physics like they did the trilogy and bam fixed. Id even pay 60 for this again.
This mission hits hard right there with garrus loyalty mission in mass effect 2. Similar situations sidonis a squadmate betrays the entire group gets everyone except garrus killed. And that decision haunts him and we decides his fate. Sidonis and darko are the same being in a different universe
Feeling empty isn't something just killers feel, addicts, victims, or the handicapped feel similar to Niko which is what makes him gta's Arthur Morgan.
A strong man who has done horrible things but wants to do and be better. Or be a serial killer depending how you play🤣
Why is it funny after all that they pull off in a Lamborghini jamming to NE-YO
Underrated game. Best GTA.
Amazing scene.
Whenever I replay GTA IV, how I deal with Darko Brevic is how I choose whether to do the deal or kill Dimitri. If I have Niko kill Darko, I also have him kill Dimitri due to Niko not being able to let go of his revenge. If instead he spares Darko, I have him do the deal which ultimately gets Roman killed.