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I was stuck in a cabin a couple years back, in the mountains, 15 degrees fahrenheit, no power. All we had was coke to drink, so out of necissity I warmed it up on the gas stove, and added some Tennessee Fire to it to help with morale. Thus the "Cinnebanja" was born.
15 isn't that bad if you're acclimated to cold. I spent a winter living in a tent with no heater at about -1 to 15 every night at 6900 feet (Williams AZ, places wgere I've spent other winters recently have been much colder but I've lived inside lol) and it was never really an issue... though I was mixing 40 oz "room temp" (about 50 F) margaritas in my thermos, so maybe there's something to the morale angle.
This is something that my family used to do in China, but when you’re sick they’d make “ginger tea”, just ginger slices in boiled water and brown sugar. That recipe later evolved to people using hot coke instead of water and brown sugar. I used to make it all the time in college!
growing up in the US being sick was always pretty synonymous with Ginger Ale. Seems like Gingers just a home remedy anywhere that can obtain it locally or now through trade.
You putting a slice of lemon in the drink right after you named it "Sundowner" is very nice. The lemon slice has a sunny vibe and look to it, and then you let it sink down in this dark drink. Very poetic
The term sundowning refers to a state of fear and confusion that predominately elderly people often expereince at night in times of illness, especially if they are in an unfamiliar place like a hospital.
@@DangerSquiggles i know. He explained it to some degree, too. What i mean, is, that he accidentally put a layer of visuel storytelling to the drink with the name and the inclusion of the lime. The original meaning behind him naming that drink hasn't changed.
I wonder what the Meral Gear character, an insane American warmonger called Sundowner, would think of it. He often said he's very in touch with hus inner kid, so him adding Coke his bourbon cocktail would kinda fit.
Hey Greg, chemist and former chemical hygiene/safety officer here. Awesome video, and your comment on "Ammonia coke" is intriguing since I associate amine compounds with a fishy smell, and concentrated ammonium hydroxide smells like what I can only describe as "bleeding out" (tons of iron-y, fresh blood notes), so I'm curious if this would add a nose note more than a flavor/palette note. Though I've herd others say ammonia smells way more fishy than bloody, so I could just have a weird nose. I'm also curious what it would do to the citrus notes, since you'd wind up neutralizing some of the acid in the drink, but I don't think there would be enough added to really knock out the phosphoric acid to a noticeable extent (though the drink might go a bit "saltier" from the neutralization) On a cursory glance, I see people call for ammonium carbonate, or "baker's ammonia", which apparently was a predecessor to baking soda/powder as a leavening agent. This is combined with weak ammonium hydroxide, alcohol, lemon, nutmeg, and lavender to make the classic aromatic ammonia "smelling salts" spirit. From a safety perspective, the only real danger would be going too hard on the ammonium hydroxide and making the solution too basic/caustic. The LD50 (the point at which 50% of people would die if they ate it) of ammonium hydroxide is 350 mg/kg body weight (in rats), which rounds out to just over 1 ounce of concentrated ammonium hydroxide, which yea...that's a lot and would send you to the hospital from caustic esophageal damage. Every recipe I find for "aromatic ammonia spirits" has the concentration at 1% ammonia, with final drink concentrations ranging in the 0.02% range, so you should be more than safe if you wanted to give it a go as long as you don't swig the bottle directly (which would still be likely safe, just profoundly unpleasant). You could even get some pH paper and test to make sure the pH is in a safe range, if you wanted to be extra careful. If you are making this yourself, and choose to go with adding ammonium hydroxide, just be really careful if you get a bottle of 30% ammonium hydroxide since it can chemically burn you. Adding the ammonia before heating will likely drive some of the ammonia out of the drink to leave a milder impact, if doing it cold/adding after heating is too intense. If there is a classic recipe that you would like to be vetted for chemical safety, I'd be happy to take a gander and let you know if it sounds sane (or, at the very least, safe)!
I am much less experienced in chemistry than you, but you hit every point I would have wanted to bring up, and you have a talent for teaching it in a way that is easy to digest. Thank you for sharing this information so people can be safe.
Be a laugh to see an irn bru episode one day, if nothing else to see greg sprouting a kilt and opening with a rousing rendition of flower of scotland 😂
On the Hungarian side of TH-cam, like 8 years ago, We had this dude go and cook diet coke, fanta and coke into a seriers of chaotic creations and you just brought back some very funny memories. Thank you.
@@issintf925 Possibly double posting this comment, for me YT doesnt show i replied so sorry if thats the case. its "Főzzük ki a kólát - Jó lesz az ebédre" by "JustVidman".
not amyl nitrite, just ammonium carbonate or just ordinary household ammonia. It'd neutralize a bit of the acid phosphate and citrate, work a bit like an antacid. The tincture would be around 2% ammonia and have lavender, citrus, and nutmeg, apparently. The combination of ammonia and phosphoric acid conceptually forms ammonium phosphate which is described to have a salty, cooling taste so there might be something there.
In China, it's also used as a lazy-person's base for red-braising (e.g. Coca-Cola chicken wings which are a classic college student dish). Since Coca-Cola already has cinnamon, caramel color, sugar, and citrus oil, you just add a bit of soy sauce and you're good to go.
@@howtodrinkmy tongue discernment is garbage tier, however every time discussion turns to something like ramazotti or even carpano antica- someone invariably says “huh this tastes a lot like flat coke”
@@Default78334 A friend that used to live in Beijing did a Coca Cola marinade to chicken and i aint a fan of that. Now i know that he didnt invent that.
Im canadian chinese and drank a lot of hot coke in my childhood when i was sick. Mom would boil down some coke with slices of ginger or lemon (peel and all), ladle it up, and drink away to help with sore throats
Hot 7up is an old Irish mother’s remedy for upset stomach. Never been able to bring myself to try it. Old pubs in Ireland used to “mull” Guinness by putting a hot fire poker inside their pint. In rural areas the fires would’ve been fuelled with peat, so may have passed some smokey flavour into the Guinness. A departure from hot soft drinks but maybe worth a try!
@@caesarsalad77 it was the same for me when I was a kid, but I do have peers that were given hot 7up. Can’t stand 7up in any guise, possibly because of its association with sickness.
I am one of your followers from Utah! I don’t actually drink but you are just so entertaining and delightful to watch plus I get new ideas for flavor combinations in my food and drinks.
There are Dutch licorice candies made by a company called Venco that are coated in ammonium chloride. Might be a bit salty for this application, but you could try dropping a couple of those in a hot coke to check the Ammonia Coke box
Licorice with ammonium chloride ("salmiak") is also very popular in Finland and other parts of northern Europe. It is a bit salty and very pungent - like very strong cough drops. Personally, I think it's horrible - but I know some people who do like it.
They're not even legal in most of the EU, if I remember correctly, but they're culturally significant enough in a few countries that those nations have an exception to the rule. Lol
@@brandonp7503 well I was able to get a double salted licorice candy in the UK before brexit.. was a total thing.... and yes tastes like what you expect to be pseudo salmiak
Another hot sodas series, nice! Been loving these little experiments. This line of inquiry is probably one with untapped potential, I wonder if you will ever find a soda that tastes better hot than not.
I wonder if the Ammonia Coke you were talking about is something similar to like Salmiakki or salted licorice. It contains Sal Ammoniak, which is food grade ammonium chloride. Could be worth looking into if you wanted to explore this Ammonia Coke concept. IDK how easy it is to get ahold of food grade ammonium chloride but I think a good place to start is order some salted licorice and try to make like a syrup out of it and then use that. It'll add some licorice notes for sure but you will get that ammonia pungency.
I am one of those people in Utah and yes, it is stupid that the state government is still run by a bunch of out of touch octogenarians that still think we should be in prohibition. Hell, until five years ago, beer couldn't even be five percent at gas stations, it was like 3.1 or something. It's frustrating, to put it in PG terms.
Art of the Drink talks about ammonia coke. It used spirits of ammonia, not the stuff you clean with. You can find ammonia carbonate powder (baker's ammonia) on the Zon, apparently it is a leavening agent. Not sure where to get spirits of ammonia, but perhaps there's a way to make your own.
Spirits of Ammonia is a pharmacy solution, but yeah Art of the Drinks article on it is very good. I was able to find a few places that sold it online with only a little bit of poking around.
Tbh Coca-Cola with Coffee was my favorite coke drink to have ever come out. I used to get it all the time before it discontinued. Glad to see you ran with that inspiration!
it only took one time of drinking a bottle of coke that was left in my car during summer afternoon to realize I wouldnt like hot coke...but what I DO like is new HTD content! keep up the great work Greg
The wife and I definitely need to find some Kuleana rum! Hot citrus or fruit in a drink, other than apple as cider, never turns out well. At least in my experience.
0:37 Hahahaha! cooking the bottle cap too, for adding extra metallic notes 😜🤣 EDIT: 1:38 HAHAHA! I was joking, I can't believe he said it too 🤣🤣, it's probably just me, that's funny, 100% called it 🤣
Just did up a hot buttered coke. Used Appletons estate signature, and angostura bitters because I don't have tiki bitters. I'm not from hot buttered rum country, but this drink is way better than it has any right to be. Very similar to my family's hot rum today recipe, but not as much molasses or lemon flavour. Greg, you may be crazy, but it's not for enjoying this drink.
You can buy Aromatic Ammonia Spirit, NOT just household ammonia. It has about 1-2% free ammonia, then ammonium carbonate, ethyl alcohol, some oil extracts (like lemon, lavender, etc), and water. According to The Art of Drink, the mix is about 3/4 of a teaspoon, in a glass of cola.
Not sure if anyone else posted this, but Diet coke uses Aspartame, I'm diabetic and have been so for many years. Aspartame was one of t he few sweeteners I could use but I could not cook with it because prolonged exposure to high temperatures can cause Aspartame to lose its sweetness. I'm fairly certain that is why when you heated it up it caused it to lose it's sweetness. I could be wrong though. Love the show though, very interesting
Northern China, along the Siberian border... Winter. 1999. Every restaurant we ate in there was a hotplate in the middle of the table with a metal 'teapot'; the first time we expected tea. However it was Hot Coca Cola. Loved it!
Mid episode I ran and grabbed my coke threw it in the microwave and immediately added an ounce of bumbu.... Probably my new favorite way to have a rum and coke.... PERFECT for the rainy day that it is today at the very least!
Warm (room-temperature) Coke is an acquired taste. But I acquired it in France during July '89. It's not my preferred Coke, but sometimes I get a hankering for it.
Agreed. One of the oddest combinations that actually worked. Caramel was a pass for me, but the Original and Vanilla Coffee Coke was tasty. I can't believe it was discontinued after getting hooked on it.
There's a different form of ammonium that could be interesting in Coke. Ammonium Chloride aka ammonium salt. It's typically used in Scandinavian Licorice, so it is considered edible in small quantities.
Came here to comment. If you have a sore throat, gargle hot cocoa cola with the juice of a whole lemon in there and it will help clear up all of it. It’s incredible. Old family recipe. And delicious.
That comment on how diet coke and coke zero tasted metallic or of pennies hit me so hard. I can't drink anything with fake sugar in it since I always get this weird metallic aftertaste that lingers for half an hour after even a small sip, but no one else can taste it and looks at me funny when I say it tastes weird. Finally, vindication!
Fun fact about calling that one Sundowner: the character Sundowner from MGR:R would definitely drink that drink because he's, uh... childlike. Yeah we'll go with that.
Here in Ireland, when kids were sick, we used to give them hot lemon soda (over here called lemonade, and often red in colour). Not sure if this goes on much nowadays though.
With Coca Cola syrup being made to emulate a fortified coca leaf infused wine from Corsica, the Hot Buttered Coke&Rum having a grape/wine ting is just testament to the creator trying to get the flavor right.
Damn, being one of the 15 Utahns and wanting to experiment more with cocktails, I am bummed about Curiada not being available here. There are lots of spirits I have wanted to try that I just haven't been able to find anywhere.
I had a drink I used to make when the Coca Cola with coffee was available, that I called a Monday Morning. Was a pint glass with ice, a can of the coke of your choice, though I preferred the dark roast one, 2 ounces of bourbon, and a dash of orange Angostura bitters
Apparently heating aspartame breaks the aspartame down which makes it useless as a sweetener in hot food and drink. That's probably why the hot diet coke didn't taste good. Also, I know it was a rhetorical question, but I like diet coke and the reason why is it's a textural thing, the bubbles in diet coke are larger than in regular coke (probably has something to do with the sugar in regular).
Now you should try making them the other kind of hot...as in spicy. Diet Coke is popular because it’s an excuse to continually mainline caffeine (47mg per can) but convince yourself you’re not consuming anything. It’s about 30-40% of a cup of coffee per can. A lot of business people would consume about one an hour in addition to other caffeine sources to just continue to delay the caffeine crash. Aromatic spirits of ammonia was a very ammonium hydroxide, water, some ethanol, and a bunch of flavorings like lemon oil, nutmeg, etc. if I understand it correctly the final mix was about 2-3% ammonia hydroxide and then you added 5-15ml to a entire glass of coke. So extremely low amounts. The acids the coke would quickly neutralize the ammonia probably giving you a brief whiff and then act mostly the same as bitters. Probably that similar tinge of formaldehyde that is in Dutch licorice. Completely harmless from as long as food/lab grade ammonium hydroxide is used (it’s used in a lot of foods anyway)
For the xp flavored coke, I think it tastes like banana taffy. Like a banana laffy-taffy. I didn't hate it, I wouldn't mind drinking more of them. Of all the gimmick coca cola flavors I've had, which were like 3 of the I think 5, it's 2nd-best, I did like the smores one (it was like smores or cotton candy, I think it was Dream; that's the issue with the dumb names that mean nothing, just give them literal-definition for names), the AI flavor one being like just mixed berries it wasn't bad I just like these two more. Could make an interesting banana daquiri, maybe some kind of a float, maybe banana fosters style cocktail. I think there was also Cinnamon flavored Coke and also Coffee flavored Coke (like coca cola with coffee in it; at this point just do actual cocaine), I don't know if they still sell those.
Things I thought I'd never type: I really want to try that Hot Buttered Cock xD I make pot roast out of mexican cola all the time. It is weird how the flavor almost disassembles and you get just more spread out palette of the spices of cola, barely any sugar is detectable. It oddly pairs well with the buttery notes of the oil, the fat from the roast. And pepper and rosemary just 'fit' along side it. Good recommendation for anyone willing to try it out. Just add a full bottle (yes, full bottle) of mexican cola after searing the roast and vegetables. Should be the last thing you do before putting it in the oven. You can use beef broth to get the juice to cover the roast with it as well. Do NOT use diet cola, the aspartame gives it that metallic taste. I've played around with different cane sugar sodas. There is an Americana Cherry cola which turned out well. Cherry was just barely detectable. Dr. Pepper is quite lovely, really play with those spice and herb flavors. Sarsaparilla and Root beer are my next experiments.
You ever had coke and lemonade? It's good if you get it right, makes me wonder what it would be like heated, and for that matter, other ingredients on top, thoughts?
In Beijing, you can get in some restaurants a fun drink: hot ginger coke. You slice up ginger and add it to the coke, heat it up hot, and drink in the winter. It’s great! 好喝啊！
I like adding my own flavourings to baseline Coke. Partly it's an availability thing - rural Ontario shopping powerrrrrr! Lime juice, cherry kool-aid liquid mix, orange tang, etc. I wonder if you went with the baseline Coke (hot or cold) and then added in higher quality variant flavourings (vanilla etc) whether they'd turn out better than blegh?
Imma be real im from the south and when i heard you call the one drink a sundowner my mind did not go to old people. Sundown is very very bad thing in the south.
To be fair, I'd like to see you use a thermometer each time you bring the liquids up to "hot." You might be missing something (or gaining?) with a 10 degree variation... just a thought...
Before the advent of sodium bicarbonate, ammonium bicarbonate was used as a leavening agent in baking. My mum comes from a Mennonite family and every year for Christmas my Grandmother, and now my mom, would make ammonia cookies also known as Hirschhornsalz (deer horn salt) Kuchen because the ammonium bicarbonate came from ground deer antlers.
Oh my god I love Coke Ultimate! I'm so sad it was limited edition. I get it, but it was soooo tasty. And I'm not just saying that as a League fangirl. Though I'll say this: I know it says "+XP Flavored", but I personally think it tastes exactly how you'd expect honeyfruit (a health pack sorta thing from the game) to taste. Kinda reminiscent of honey, kinda reminiscent of cantaloupe, still its own flavor that doesn't quite fit into a completely describable box. I'm gonna miss the heck out of my honeyfruit coke, I tell ya.
You know, im not surprised coke works warm/hot. It was invented before refrigeration and formulated for the "intended" consumption to be room-temp. If you drink coke at room temp and pepsi (which was invented after refrigeration) cold, they basically taste the same.
1:28 so as someone that’s not nearly as healthy as ied like to be I drink only coke (this is UK coke so tv made with sugar) and one thing I find funny is it’s actually one of the least sweet pops I’ve tasted, Pepsi is way sweeter but has an earthy taste too it but I don’t like it as it’s too sweet, cherry coke is Also way sweeter but is more like a toffee taste because of the cherry’s. Sadly we don’t get a lot of the more unique flavours over here in the UK for a time we did have vanilla and we had lime but nowadays you can only get them flavours in Diet Coke.
I was really surprised by how well this went, and want to know: What other stuff should I heat up and see what does it when it do?
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We had a camping tradition of heating up orange crush over the campfire... some added hot chocolate to it.
"Ass pennies"!😂😂😂
I'm the weirdo that orders an oj and coke for breakfast...I wonder how that will turn out.
Irn-Bru!
@@surcettinr2600 I bet that'd go well with some whiskey or a milder rum... hell even some tequila!
I was stuck in a cabin a couple years back, in the mountains, 15 degrees fahrenheit, no power. All we had was coke to drink, so out of necissity I warmed it up on the gas stove, and added some Tennessee Fire to it to help with morale. Thus the "Cinnebanja" was born.
15 isn't that bad if you're acclimated to cold. I spent a winter living in a tent with no heater at about -1 to 15 every night at 6900 feet (Williams AZ, places wgere I've spent other winters recently have been much colder but I've lived inside lol) and it was never really an issue... though I was mixing 40 oz "room temp" (about 50 F) margaritas in my thermos, so maybe there's something to the morale angle.
This is something that my family used to do in China, but when you’re sick they’d make “ginger tea”, just ginger slices in boiled water and brown sugar. That recipe later evolved to people using hot coke instead of water and brown sugar. I used to make it all the time in college!
I've seen hot Coke with ginger served in cafes in Guangdong province.
Ginger tea with lemon, honey and chamomile is primo when you're under the weather
Hot coke with lemon was a thing when I visited Hong Kong around 2002.
growing up in the US being sick was always pretty synonymous with Ginger Ale. Seems like Gingers just a home remedy anywhere that can obtain it locally or now through trade.
Ginger Coke you say? You might be onto something. I like ginger ale and Coke mixed together lol
You putting a slice of lemon in the drink right after you named it "Sundowner" is very nice.
The lemon slice has a sunny vibe and look to it, and then you let it sink down in this dark drink. Very poetic
The term sundowning refers to a state of fear and confusion that predominately elderly people often expereince at night in times of illness, especially if they are in an unfamiliar place like a hospital.
@@DangerSquiggles i know. He explained it to some degree, too. What i mean, is, that he accidentally put a layer of visuel storytelling to the drink with the name and the inclusion of the lime. The original meaning behind him naming that drink hasn't changed.
Lemon*
I wonder what the Meral Gear character, an insane American warmonger called Sundowner, would think of it.
He often said he's very in touch with hus inner kid, so him adding Coke his bourbon cocktail would kinda fit.
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he'd think his taste in drinks is FUCKING INVINCIBLE
Hey Greg, chemist and former chemical hygiene/safety officer here. Awesome video, and your comment on "Ammonia coke" is intriguing since I associate amine compounds with a fishy smell, and concentrated ammonium hydroxide smells like what I can only describe as "bleeding out" (tons of iron-y, fresh blood notes), so I'm curious if this would add a nose note more than a flavor/palette note. Though I've herd others say ammonia smells way more fishy than bloody, so I could just have a weird nose. I'm also curious what it would do to the citrus notes, since you'd wind up neutralizing some of the acid in the drink, but I don't think there would be enough added to really knock out the phosphoric acid to a noticeable extent (though the drink might go a bit "saltier" from the neutralization) On a cursory glance, I see people call for ammonium carbonate, or "baker's ammonia", which apparently was a predecessor to baking soda/powder as a leavening agent. This is combined with weak ammonium hydroxide, alcohol, lemon, nutmeg, and lavender to make the classic aromatic ammonia "smelling salts" spirit.
From a safety perspective, the only real danger would be going too hard on the ammonium hydroxide and making the solution too basic/caustic. The LD50 (the point at which 50% of people would die if they ate it) of ammonium hydroxide is 350 mg/kg body weight (in rats), which rounds out to just over 1 ounce of concentrated ammonium hydroxide, which yea...that's a lot and would send you to the hospital from caustic esophageal damage. Every recipe I find for "aromatic ammonia spirits" has the concentration at 1% ammonia, with final drink concentrations ranging in the 0.02% range, so you should be more than safe if you wanted to give it a go as long as you don't swig the bottle directly (which would still be likely safe, just profoundly unpleasant). You could even get some pH paper and test to make sure the pH is in a safe range, if you wanted to be extra careful. If you are making this yourself, and choose to go with adding ammonium hydroxide, just be really careful if you get a bottle of 30% ammonium hydroxide since it can chemically burn you.
Adding the ammonia before heating will likely drive some of the ammonia out of the drink to leave a milder impact, if doing it cold/adding after heating is too intense. If there is a classic recipe that you would like to be vetted for chemical safety, I'd be happy to take a gander and let you know if it sounds sane (or, at the very least, safe)!
I am much less experienced in chemistry than you, but you hit every point I would have wanted to bring up, and you have a talent for teaching it in a way that is easy to digest. Thank you for sharing this information so people can be safe.
Be a laugh to see an irn bru episode one day, if nothing else to see greg sprouting a kilt and opening with a rousing rendition of flower of scotland 😂
Seeing you experiment 'live' abd hearing your thought process as it happens is a treat especially in this series
Same! My favorite HTD videos are the experimental ones
Agree. The vids Greg workshops a drink are among my faves too
On the Hungarian side of TH-cam, like 8 years ago, We had this dude go and cook diet coke, fanta and coke into a seriers of chaotic creations and you just brought back some very funny memories. Thank you.
Do you know what the video was called? That sounds like an awesome watch
Its in Hungarian so i doubt you'll get much of it, but its "Főzzük ki a kólát - Jó lesz az ebédre" by a guy named JustVidman@@issintf925
@@issintf925 Possibly double posting this comment, for me YT doesnt show i replied so sorry if thats the case. its "Főzzük ki a kólát - Jó lesz az ebédre" by "JustVidman".
Ah 2013-18 TH-cam was a really unique and amazing place. Good production became more affordable and it was a wildest for ideas.
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not amyl nitrite, just ammonium carbonate or just ordinary household ammonia.
It'd neutralize a bit of the acid phosphate and citrate, work a bit like an antacid.
The tincture would be around 2% ammonia and have lavender, citrus, and nutmeg, apparently.
The combination of ammonia and phosphoric acid conceptually forms ammonium phosphate which is described to have a salty, cooling taste so there might be something there.
Ammonium Phosphate is the stuff in reuseable heat packs so that checks out. Probably best kept at those minuscule concentrations
Yeah, I got confused for a bit, thinking, "Sourherners added poppers to their Coke?"
I came here to make sure I didn’t hear Greg talking about doing poppers, but he definitely just misspoke.
Utah's ban on alcohol delivery frustrates me deeply. There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
Right there with you, at least we have High West
Sounds like there's a black market for you to corner.
Dozens? My God, they're multiplying!
Awesome. A.D.
Coke is a watered down carbonated Amaro. Literally made a coke-a-cola reduction rich syrup last night for experimenting
This sounds right!
In China, it's also used as a lazy-person's base for red-braising (e.g. Coca-Cola chicken wings which are a classic college student dish). Since Coca-Cola already has cinnamon, caramel color, sugar, and citrus oil, you just add a bit of soy sauce and you're good to go.
@@Default78334 the phosphoric acid will tenderize the meat as well
@@howtodrinkmy tongue discernment is garbage tier, however every time discussion turns to something like ramazotti or even carpano antica- someone invariably says “huh this tastes a lot like flat coke”
@@Default78334 A friend that used to live in Beijing did a Coca Cola marinade to chicken and i aint a fan of that.
Now i know that he didnt invent that.
Take 7-up, heat it up, and put Old Grandad into it.
Make 7-Grandad.
Fleenstones?!
I'm surprised you didn't add Ango. I throw a couple of dashes in Coke for a change of pace. It really loves it.
Im canadian chinese and drank a lot of hot coke in my childhood when i was sick. Mom would boil down some coke with slices of ginger or lemon (peel and all), ladle it up, and drink away to help with sore throats
Hot 7up is an old Irish mother’s remedy for upset stomach. Never been able to bring myself to try it. Old pubs in Ireland used to “mull” Guinness by putting a hot fire poker inside their pint. In rural areas the fires would’ve been fuelled with peat, so may have passed some smokey flavour into the Guinness. A departure from hot soft drinks but maybe worth a try!
We just used to use room temp, flat 7up or Sprite for that.
@@caesarsalad77 it was the same for me when I was a kid, but I do have peers that were given hot 7up. Can’t stand 7up in any guise, possibly because of its association with sickness.
I think Greg did an episode with the mulled Guinness actually
@@The_Jovian Really? I’ll have to seek it out
@@mojonaut I can't find it so maybe I'm mistaken but I so clearly remember him doing that 😅
I am one of your followers from Utah! I don’t actually drink but you are just so entertaining and delightful to watch plus I get new ideas for flavor combinations in my food and drinks.
There are Dutch licorice candies made by a company called Venco that are coated in ammonium chloride. Might be a bit salty for this application, but you could try dropping a couple of those in a hot coke to check the Ammonia Coke box
Licorice with ammonium chloride ("salmiak") is also very popular in Finland and other parts of northern Europe. It is a bit salty and very pungent - like very strong cough drops. Personally, I think it's horrible - but I know some people who do like it.
Oh I love these double zouts!
They're not even legal in most of the EU, if I remember correctly, but they're culturally significant enough in a few countries that those nations have an exception to the rule. Lol
@@brandonp7503 well I was able to get a double salted licorice candy in the UK before brexit.. was a total thing.... and yes tastes like what you expect to be pseudo salmiak
Another hot sodas series, nice! Been loving these little experiments. This line of inquiry is probably one with untapped potential, I wonder if you will ever find a soda that tastes better hot than not.
Ahh yes, hot buttered 🐓 a new American classic 😅😂
I wonder if the Ammonia Coke you were talking about is something similar to like Salmiakki or salted licorice. It contains Sal Ammoniak, which is food grade ammonium chloride. Could be worth looking into if you wanted to explore this Ammonia Coke concept. IDK how easy it is to get ahold of food grade ammonium chloride but I think a good place to start is order some salted licorice and try to make like a syrup out of it and then use that. It'll add some licorice notes for sure but you will get that ammonia pungency.
I am one of those people in Utah and yes, it is stupid that the state government is still run by a bunch of out of touch octogenarians that still think we should be in prohibition. Hell, until five years ago, beer couldn't even be five percent at gas stations, it was like 3.1 or something. It's frustrating, to put it in PG terms.
I mean, here in NJ the idea that you’d sell beer in a gas station is absolutely insane. Gotta drive south of the mason dixon line to find that.
@@howtodrink not strictly speaking, we've got gas station beer up in Michigan also!
Not to mention, it’s impossible to purchase a bottle of anything above 5% on Sundays.
Nevada isn't too far of a drive ;)
@howtodrink bought 40s of bud at gas stations all over New York.
Yeah this is a thing in Hong Kong, usually with lemon as a sore throat remedy but some people drink it casually.
Jokes about being cancelled for "Hot Cuban", then names his next drink "Sundowner" 😅😂🤣💀
Art of the Drink talks about ammonia coke. It used spirits of ammonia, not the stuff you clean with. You can find ammonia carbonate powder (baker's ammonia) on the Zon, apparently it is a leavening agent. Not sure where to get spirits of ammonia, but perhaps there's a way to make your own.
Spirits of Ammonia is a pharmacy solution, but yeah Art of the Drinks article on it is very good. I was able to find a few places that sold it online with only a little bit of poking around.
And here I thought the best place to find a Hot Cuban in the states was south Florida
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Tbh Coca-Cola with Coffee was my favorite coke drink to have ever come out. I used to get it all the time before it discontinued. Glad to see you ran with that inspiration!
Good news if you're okay with importing: Coke with Coffee is REALLY popular in Australia and wasn't discontinued there.
It was SO good!!!
it only took one time of drinking a bottle of coke that was left in my car during summer afternoon to realize I wouldnt like hot coke...but what I DO like is new HTD content! keep up the great work Greg
the tasting notes captions for this episode are some of the best ever. this show always makes my day :)
Hot rum and coke with plenty of lemon juice is my favorite winter drink.
The wife and I definitely need to find some Kuleana rum!
Hot citrus or fruit in a drink, other than apple as cider, never turns out well. At least in my experience.
Not even a Hot Toddy?
12:32 "We're gonna call this a Sundowner."
KIDS ARE CRUEL, JACK. AND I'M VERY IN TOUCH WITH MY INNER CHILD.
0:37 Hahahaha! cooking the bottle cap too, for adding extra metallic notes 😜🤣
EDIT: 1:38 HAHAHA! I was joking, I can't believe he said it too 🤣🤣, it's probably just me, that's funny, 100% called it 🤣
Just Rum makes a maplewood rested rum that I really like for hot buttered rum. Now you have me thinking I need to try it with hot coke.
Ass pennies! I really hope that was a reference to one of my favorite Kids in the Hall skits😂
Just did up a hot buttered coke. Used Appletons estate signature, and angostura bitters because I don't have tiki bitters. I'm not from hot buttered rum country, but this drink is way better than it has any right to be. Very similar to my family's hot rum today recipe, but not as much molasses or lemon flavour.
Greg, you may be crazy, but it's not for enjoying this drink.
You can buy Aromatic Ammonia Spirit, NOT just household ammonia. It has about 1-2% free ammonia, then ammonium carbonate, ethyl alcohol, some oil extracts (like lemon, lavender, etc), and water. According to The Art of Drink, the mix is about 3/4 of a teaspoon, in a glass of cola.
Not sure if anyone else posted this, but Diet coke uses Aspartame, I'm diabetic and have been so for many years. Aspartame was one of t he few sweeteners I could use but I could not cook with it because prolonged exposure to high temperatures can cause Aspartame to lose its sweetness. I'm fairly certain that is why when you heated it up it caused it to lose it's sweetness. I could be wrong though. Love the show though, very interesting
Northern China, along the Siberian border... Winter. 1999.
Every restaurant we ate in there was a hotplate in the middle of the table with a metal 'teapot'; the first time we expected tea.
However it was Hot Coca Cola.
Loved it!
"Coke tales after dark" with Glen. 😅
Mid episode I ran and grabbed my coke threw it in the microwave and immediately added an ounce of bumbu.... Probably my new favorite way to have a rum and coke.... PERFECT for the rainy day that it is today at the very least!
Missed opportunity calling a hot cuba libre a "Colombian Jungle" ( because it's hot and has coke in it)
Warm (room-temperature) Coke is an acquired taste. But I acquired it in France during July '89. It's not my preferred Coke, but sometimes I get a hankering for it.
You have invented the Rum & Coke....but hot.
lol
The coffee flavored coke was quite delightful. I was sad that it was discontinued.
That was surprisingly tasty.
Agreed. One of the oddest combinations that actually worked. Caramel was a pass for me, but the Original and Vanilla Coffee Coke was tasty. I can't believe it was discontinued after getting hooked on it.
There's a different form of ammonium that could be interesting in Coke. Ammonium Chloride aka ammonium salt. It's typically used in Scandinavian Licorice, so it is considered edible in small quantities.
Came here to comment. If you have a sore throat, gargle hot cocoa cola with the juice of a whole lemon in there and it will help clear up all of it. It’s incredible. Old family recipe. And delicious.
One of the Utah viewers reporting in
That comment on how diet coke and coke zero tasted metallic or of pennies hit me so hard. I can't drink anything with fake sugar in it since I always get this weird metallic aftertaste that lingers for half an hour after even a small sip, but no one else can taste it and looks at me funny when I say it tastes weird. Finally, vindication!
It's something not everyone can taste, from what I understand; sorry about the genetic lottery """""win""""" fellow metal-taster.
I'm one of those 15 people from Utah, getting anything but basic drinks is a pain in the ass
Ironically just sat down and am drinking a coke watching this!
Fun fact about calling that one Sundowner: the character Sundowner from MGR:R would definitely drink that drink because he's, uh... childlike. Yeah we'll go with that.
He's very in touch with his inner child!
DAMNIT- you made the joke before me!
Here in Ireland, when kids were sick, we used to give them hot lemon soda (over here called lemonade, and often red in colour). Not sure if this goes on much nowadays though.
With Coca Cola syrup being made to emulate a fortified coca leaf infused wine from Corsica, the Hot Buttered Coke&Rum having a grape/wine ting is just testament to the creator trying to get the flavor right.
I think my parents used to boil it with ginger as a drink when you're having a cold. Never had it myself.
Damn, being one of the 15 Utahns and wanting to experiment more with cocktails, I am bummed about Curiada not being available here. There are lots of spirits I have wanted to try that I just haven't been able to find anywhere.
Ahh, the 'deez nuts' flavor note. The summary column jus gets better and better 🤣
Hey greg. I know meredith is on maternity leave but i hope shes doing ok. Missing you two on midnight local
I think on a recent video she commented that the whole family is doing alright! Happily spending time with the small one
I had a drink I used to make when the Coca Cola with coffee was available, that I called a Monday Morning. Was a pint glass with ice, a can of the coke of your choice, though I preferred the dark roast one, 2 ounces of bourbon, and a dash of orange Angostura bitters
Apparently heating aspartame breaks the aspartame down which makes it useless as a sweetener in hot food and drink. That's probably why the hot diet coke didn't taste good. Also, I know it was a rhetorical question, but I like diet coke and the reason why is it's a textural thing, the bubbles in diet coke are larger than in regular coke (probably has something to do with the sugar in regular).
Now you should try making them the other kind of hot...as in spicy.
Diet Coke is popular because it’s an excuse to continually mainline caffeine (47mg per can) but convince yourself you’re not consuming anything. It’s about 30-40% of a cup of coffee per can. A lot of business people would consume about one an hour in addition to other caffeine sources to just continue to delay the caffeine crash.
Aromatic spirits of ammonia was a very ammonium hydroxide, water, some ethanol, and a bunch of flavorings like lemon oil, nutmeg, etc. if I understand it correctly the final mix was about 2-3% ammonia hydroxide and then you added 5-15ml to a entire glass of coke. So extremely low amounts. The acids the coke would quickly neutralize the ammonia probably giving you a brief whiff and then act mostly the same as bitters. Probably that similar tinge of formaldehyde that is in Dutch licorice. Completely harmless from as long as food/lab grade ammonium hydroxide is used (it’s used in a lot of foods anyway)
Fantastic video! The wife and I will have to remember to try whipping up a batch of Hot Buttered Coke for our Christmas Party next year!
For the xp flavored coke, I think it tastes like banana taffy. Like a banana laffy-taffy. I didn't hate it, I wouldn't mind drinking more of them. Of all the gimmick coca cola flavors I've had, which were like 3 of the I think 5, it's 2nd-best, I did like the smores one (it was like smores or cotton candy, I think it was Dream; that's the issue with the dumb names that mean nothing, just give them literal-definition for names), the AI flavor one being like just mixed berries it wasn't bad I just like these two more. Could make an interesting banana daquiri, maybe some kind of a float, maybe banana fosters style cocktail. I think there was also Cinnamon flavored Coke and also Coffee flavored Coke (like coca cola with coffee in it; at this point just do actual cocaine), I don't know if they still sell those.
Things I thought I'd never type: I really want to try that Hot Buttered Cock xD
I make pot roast out of mexican cola all the time. It is weird how the flavor almost disassembles and you get just more spread out palette of the spices of cola, barely any sugar is detectable. It oddly pairs well with the buttery notes of the oil, the fat from the roast. And pepper and rosemary just 'fit' along side it.
Good recommendation for anyone willing to try it out. Just add a full bottle (yes, full bottle) of mexican cola after searing the roast and vegetables. Should be the last thing you do before putting it in the oven. You can use beef broth to get the juice to cover the roast with it as well. Do NOT use diet cola, the aspartame gives it that metallic taste.
I've played around with different cane sugar sodas. There is an Americana Cherry cola which turned out well. Cherry was just barely detectable. Dr. Pepper is quite lovely, really play with those spice and herb flavors. Sarsaparilla and Root beer are my next experiments.
I'm starting to think that the things that Greg thinks will be a "disaster" will actually end up really good haha
I realized adding a few drops of Peychauds to a can of coke zero makes it taste more like classic coke. Seems to round out the flavors better.
You ever had coke and lemonade? It's good if you get it right, makes me wonder what it would be like heated, and for that matter, other ingredients on top, thoughts?
Coke and coffee is a good combo. One of my favorite cocktails I've come up with is coke and Kentucky coffee whiskey liquor
In Beijing, you can get in some restaurants a fun drink: hot ginger coke. You slice up ginger and add it to the coke, heat it up hot, and drink in the winter. It’s great! 好喝啊！
I'd almost forgotten the coffee coke existed until this video
18:40 there was a product called coca cola with coffee, discontinued a year or so ago
I like adding my own flavourings to baseline Coke. Partly it's an availability thing - rural Ontario shopping powerrrrrr!
Lime juice, cherry kool-aid liquid mix, orange tang, etc.
I wonder if you went with the baseline Coke (hot or cold) and then added in higher quality variant flavourings (vanilla etc) whether they'd turn out better than blegh?
Imma be real im from the south and when i heard you call the one drink a sundowner my mind did not go to old people. Sundown is very very bad thing in the south.
Sundowners is somewhat akin to a fatigue induced temporary dementia state. My grandfather started having it mildly after a stroke.
Sweets with ammonia are actually very common in the north of europe. Called salty liquorice or salmiac
What's next? Hot sprite? Actually, wait... Hot root beer
To be fair, I'd like to see you use a thermometer each time you bring the liquids up to "hot." You might be missing something (or gaining?) with a 10 degree variation... just a thought...
Before the advent of sodium bicarbonate, ammonium bicarbonate was used as a leavening agent in baking. My mum comes from a Mennonite family and every year for Christmas my Grandmother, and now my mom, would make ammonia cookies also known as Hirschhornsalz (deer horn salt) Kuchen because the ammonium bicarbonate came from ground deer antlers.
This is becoming an early days Rick Sanchez channel. I like. 😀
definitely read the title as "hot cocoa cola" and was so curious lol
I remember making hot cola as a kid after reading about it in the Artemis Fowl series! I thought it was pretty good so I'm glad to see you agree :D
When I was little, doctors prescribed Coke Syrup when you had an upset stomach.
Coke and coffee is such an awesome combo, lots of potential there for sure.
Oh my god I love Coke Ultimate! I'm so sad it was limited edition. I get it, but it was soooo tasty. And I'm not just saying that as a League fangirl. Though I'll say this: I know it says "+XP Flavored", but I personally think it tastes exactly how you'd expect honeyfruit (a health pack sorta thing from the game) to taste. Kinda reminiscent of honey, kinda reminiscent of cantaloupe, still its own flavor that doesn't quite fit into a completely describable box. I'm gonna miss the heck out of my honeyfruit coke, I tell ya.
buttered hot coca cola might be something I would try. I'm not usually a fan of cola, but I'd be willing to try it.
I do enjoy hearing what would be an inner dialogue in your videos. It's a bit stream of consciousness crossed with verbalizing your though processes.
How sprite or hot fantas next? Doing hot versions of the different fanta flavors would give a lot to work with
Hot rootbeers or cream sodas would be fascinating.
Lets see how you would make stamin up, phd flopper, deadshot daiquiri and mule kick
Straight up, I’m finally shooting it next week. Should be online in 3-4 weeks, maybe sooner
Gregg mentioned Coke with coffee during hot irish coke forgetting about coke blak that was a thing in the early 2000's
Cola is a muxture if alspice, Cinnamon, nutmeg and irher spices and orange juice, lemon juice, lime juice and orher citrus fruits
The legend of hot Dr Pepper lives on
Hot Coke (or Dr. Pepper) and lemon was a cure for sore throats in my Grandma's house.
The name “Sundowner” seems like a terrible idea for a drink involving Vanilla Coke and Old Granddad. Especially when “Sun Down Towns” still exist.
Would love to see your take on an Easter candy themed cocktail
Peep martini!
As one of those 15 Utahns that watch you please help us end the prohibition!
My camping buddies and I are gonna try a few of these around the campfire on cold day!
You know, im not surprised coke works warm/hot. It was invented before refrigeration and formulated for the "intended" consumption to be room-temp. If you drink coke at room temp and pepsi (which was invented after refrigeration) cold, they basically taste the same.
We actually do hot coke with slices of ginger for colds and sore throats. A little weird, yes but it helps.
If hot Coca-Cola reads as a weak Allspice Dram, I wonder about using it in a riff on a Lion's Tail.
1:28 so as someone that’s not nearly as healthy as ied like to be I drink only coke (this is UK coke so tv made with sugar) and one thing I find funny is it’s actually one of the least sweet pops I’ve tasted, Pepsi is way sweeter but has an earthy taste too it but I don’t like it as it’s too sweet, cherry coke is Also way sweeter but is more like a toffee taste because of the cherry’s.
Sadly we don’t get a lot of the more unique flavours over here in the UK for a time we did have vanilla and we had lime but nowadays you can only get them flavours in Diet Coke.
I want to see Greg make a hot coke flip. And a Baja Blast colada.