WW2 Battle Of The Bulge: Then & Now - CHENEUX

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  • Cheneux was one of Kampfgruppe Peiper's last chances to advance west and reach the Meuse River.
    It was on the way to Cheneux that his convoy of half tracks and Panther tanks came under aerial attack from P-47 Thunderbolts of the 9th USAAF.
    In this video I look at the Then and Now images and the key features of this aspect of Kampfgruppe Peiper's fighting in the Ardennes.
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  • @michaelolatunji2100
    @michaelolatunji2100 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I was recommended by the History Underground. I was not disappointed! This is the kind of content I’ve been searching for! Subscribed!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Michael, JD’s work on The History Underground is amazing and definitely a role model of mine.

    • @bettylaselli2048
      @bettylaselli2048 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@WW2Wayfinderthe content on your channel is also amazing! Excellent

    • @luftwaffe6521
      @luftwaffe6521 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too!

  • @rodphillipsvva1048
    @rodphillipsvva1048 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video and very educational. Thank you!

  • @brasserieartisanaleforet9200
    @brasserieartisanaleforet9200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks a lot for this vidéo. M'y father was born in cheneux in 1930. He had 15 years old during the battle. Sometime he explained us this terrible period.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re most welcome and thank you for sharing your Fathers story. I can’t imagine how tough it must have been for those Belgium civilians that had to live through the fighting there.

  • @jeffgoldhardt2713
    @jeffgoldhardt2713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My uncle, Paul Bates, was one of those bridge blowing American engineers

  • @albertosgubin3662
    @albertosgubin3662 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Increible informe...si verdad.la reja es la misma de esa epoca...a conservarla!!!!!!!!

  • @FreGZile
    @FreGZile 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice video but i found the music a bit over the top... overall you do excellent content thanks for that

  • @Bigsky1991
    @Bigsky1991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've walked through all the towns and battlefields there for decades...found the most incredible things still lying around...

  • @dipseavet
    @dipseavet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 1995, I stopped at La Gliese. Didn't know to go further.

  • @paulvanappeven3340
    @paulvanappeven3340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your video’s. I’m from Belgium. Subscribe to your channel. 👍🏻

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying them! And welcome to the channel, I’ve still got a few more episodes to come from the Ardennes so I hope you enjoy them!

  • @m1m3rmedia
    @m1m3rmedia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think they knew that bunker was there or was it pure luck that they found it? And even if it already was on their maps it was still fortunate that the US attack came right there.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it was just a great stroke of luck for Peiper and Knittel!

  • @frankquevedo3453
    @frankquevedo3453 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where were you able to get the colorized film from? And was it from this combat action? Regardless, very informative video!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s all from various archives, just takes a while to search for it all!
      Thank you for watching😃

  • @paulsmyth104
    @paulsmyth104 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Research and Explanation as usual
    Well Done 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @bookaufman9643
    @bookaufman9643 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The firing from those airplanes was so inaccurate. They had a much better chance to score a hit with a bomb than they did with missiles or even machine gun fire. So many supposed tank kills were actually missed. What chance do you really have at 350- 400 mph?

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed it was extremely difficult especially with the flak and weather conditions to contend with as well!

  • @seanmcmanamon3773
    @seanmcmanamon3773 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A veteran I knew, Stanley Tomkiel was withe the 307th Airborne Engineers assigned to the 504th PIR. Promoted on Christmas Day, 1944 when his Sgt. Was killed removing German mines. Dangerous job!

  • @gillianshort9125
    @gillianshort9125 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Enjoyed the video. Incredible to think the fence and gate are obviously pre WW2.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Always a favourite spot to visit when touring the Ardennes as it’s so unspoilt!

  • @KellyJones-be9kn
    @KellyJones-be9kn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you again wonderful work

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @edwinodus
    @edwinodus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So when did Peipper turnaround and head back for Germany? He did get to the muse, did he?

  • @ducatiboy6668
    @ducatiboy6668 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos and research are absolutely top notch please keep them coming mate.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! And lots more lined up😉

  • @DocWatsonHistory
    @DocWatsonHistory ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding Wayfinder! I have been in that bunker and great to highlight how important the P-47 pilots were risking a low cloud deck, rolling hills for a low level attack on Peiper's column. Slowed Peiper enough to give US engineers time to blow we bridge beyond Cheneux. Great video! - Michael "Doc"

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It’s a great bunker isn’t it! Having been in several throughout Europe I was genuinely surprised to see how clean and dry it was inside which was really good to see it being looked after.

  • @leesherman100
    @leesherman100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best damn channel since beer in a cold bottle!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow! Now that is a recommendation!!! Thank you!!!🍻

  • @kodiakkeith
    @kodiakkeith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My father was with the 117th at Stavelot, behind Peiper and blocking his retreat from the trap. There was an enormous fuel dump on the hill above Stavelot and in one post-war interview Peiper says he knew about the fuel, and in another he seems not to know about the fuel or is just very vague on the subject. Peiper's column died for lack of fuel and the question has always nagged me; did the support column behind him (blocked at the Stavelot bridge) have orders to seize the fuel? Did he or did he not know about the fuel? He had just come through the German cantons of Belgium (east side of the Ambleve) and any number of collaborators could have told him. It may have even been on maps of their advance that had such intel gathered from spies and collaborators. Did Peiper know and just not want to admit the enormous tactical error in not seizing the fuel with his main armored column? Most of what happened over the next few days hinged on that lack of fuel. Panzers without gas are just pillboxes.

  • @bobleicht5295
    @bobleicht5295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Served in B/1-504, and after reading Ross Carter’s account in ‘Those Devils in Baggy Pants,’ made walking the attack route to Cheneux all the more unbelievable.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was filming there again earlier this week but covering the attack put in by the men of the 504th! Incredible and gut wrenching all at the same time. No idea how they did!

    • @henryhoward9454
      @henryhoward9454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was B 1-504 1988-1994

    • @bobleicht5295
      @bobleicht5295 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@henryhoward9454’80-82

  • @richardmardis2492
    @richardmardis2492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The footage of girl on the cart with two horses being strafed by a P-47, has always horrified me.
    I know that she might have been delivering aircraft parts- but it’s horrific to see.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Defining not nice to see, I agree. It must have been hard for those pilots to go after those sorts of targets.

    • @bcgraham3512
      @bcgraham3512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've always considered this strafing footage of a civilian horse-drawn hay cart a war crime and probably a very common one. Whataboutery doesn't change that.

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!

  • @terryjohnson7389
    @terryjohnson7389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No greater honour on the community than to be recommended by History underground, both are unsurpassed on presentation.keep up the great work.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! JD’s work has been such an inspiration to myself and his support has been amazing.
      Thank you for watching!

  • @TI4438
    @TI4438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep these vids coming.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Certainly will😃

  • @Baskerville22
    @Baskerville22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Claims of tank kills by Thunderbolt pilots are acknowledged today as wildly exaggerated.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but understandable given the speeds and confusion of engaging ground targets at 250-300mph plus!
      They definitely did keep the Germans from employing their armour at full strength so their presence certainly acted as a force multiplier on the battlefield!

  • @dalbeattie1
    @dalbeattie1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for the support, I really appreciate it!

  • @lynneowen8362
    @lynneowen8362 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So very interesting.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I’ll have another episode about the US attack by the men of the 504th PIR on Cheneux out soon!

    • @lynneowen8362
      @lynneowen8362 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WW2Wayfinder I’ll look forward to it. 👍🏻

  • @-jk-2580
    @-jk-2580 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome!

  • @Mackensen11
    @Mackensen11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm leading a group of friends on a tour of the Bugle battlefields, as well as a number of WW1 sites next month (Sept) and have found your videos to be an excellent addition to my research for the locations. Many thanks for your great work and best regards from the US.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear they’re of some use! Hope you have a great tour over their and everyone enjoys it!

    • @Baskerville22
      @Baskerville22 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the "Bugle" battlefield anywhere near the 'Bulge' battlefields ?😄

  • @paulbfields8284
    @paulbfields8284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phewww.. you have my full attention. The winter icy conditions, the narrow roads served the surprised and overwhelmed allied forces well in slowing down Pieper’s advance. Fuel was also among his desire to attain. I can’t remember the American Black unit that stayed at their positions manning and firing on key close positions. They stayed till they were taken and as I remember a few retreated to a house for safety. This unit bought time for our forces to regroup. The gate that still stands just blows me away.. it puts me there and so do you.. I’ll never be able to afford such a trip but I wish I could visit the D Day memorial and such places you are showing.. wish I could visit the Pearl Harbor memorial too.. people like yourself and Steve Jobs give us a taste.. thank you thank thank you.., More!!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ardennes is quite the place to visit and some of the areas really are still untouched from the battles that raged there 79 years ago.
      I’ve never been to Pearl but it’s on my bucket list to try and make it there one day to see it!

  • @nzmonsterman
    @nzmonsterman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am pleased I found this channel. Fantastic work. I wish I had this information available before I did my tour several years ago 😊

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! And welcome to the channel!

  • @alainduquenois3812
    @alainduquenois3812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    J adore visionné vos vidéos

  • @timeversman9804
    @timeversman9804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Civil War photos have a few trees highlighted that show the same trees in modern times. I believe they are called witness trees and fir me it gives pause to see a tree that was there at the same time.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love that expression, witness tree! It really does make you pause and reflect on what they’ve seen over the years and how they remain silent to it all. Quite incredible really! Thanks for watching!

  • @nexusgroupnxt
    @nexusgroupnxt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    loved the video!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Glad you liked it!

  • @BOZOSMITH-xw3ms
    @BOZOSMITH-xw3ms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just amazing how the area has not changed much

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s incredible isn’t it! Thank you for watching!

  • @Isaac-d2f
    @Isaac-d2f ปีที่แล้ว

    And all for what 😢

  • @JohnWilson-nu1sq
    @JohnWilson-nu1sq ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel Wayfinder.. Excellent content. Have always wished I could visit these battlefields. Thanks for giving me the next best alternative.

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re most welcome! Glad you enjoyed this episode and hope you have time to watch some more. Also got lots more to come so hopefully can show you more over the next few months!

  • @NiteMar-f5s
    @NiteMar-f5s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb. Subbed and notifications are on!

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Lots more content to come over the next few months!

    • @NiteMar-f5s
      @NiteMar-f5s ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WW2Wayfinder can’t wait!

  • @richardyoder3646
    @richardyoder3646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another outstanding one

  • @michaelmccollister7482
    @michaelmccollister7482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great effort, Jon!

  • @babba7075
    @babba7075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done pleas more of this greetings from Germany

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it and still a few more Battle of the Bulge episodes to go before I start ramping up for Normandy!

    • @babba7075
      @babba7075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WW2Wayfinder i Like your filmworke its highly welklcome

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Still lots to learn and I try and improve it for each episode so I can create the best content out there!

  • @simonrooney7942
    @simonrooney7942 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks, Jon. You were lucky with the weather

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The days previous had been typical Ardennes weather with low cloud and fog! That was the one decent day out of the whole trip!

  • @Pandrnchicken
    @Pandrnchicken ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it!

  • @alasdairduke2052
    @alasdairduke2052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply brilliant thank you

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for taking the time to watch!

  • @viagra4x4
    @viagra4x4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    unfortunately there were civilians hiding in the cellar on the house on the corner during the attack and all where killed .

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly yes.

    • @viagra4x4
      @viagra4x4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Done the whole route myself.great content thank you. I am sure you ll go to stoumont. Another interesting battle site

    • @WW2Wayfinder
      @WW2Wayfinder  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did visit Stoumont! I just have had a chance to edit it yet! But that is a fantastic village to visit. Glad you’ve been able to visit the area and see it first hand!