That just on the A18 level, but the chip itself will be in the S25U (Note 25.. what should release together with the iPhone 17 with A19 next year..), so unless you say that the 5 gens backward Note 20 what released with the iPhone 12 was only the iPhone 11 (so the one year old iPhone that time, not the one what comes out with it..) competitor, than they are still behind if they only can match the 2024 flagship chip with their 2025 flagship chip.
@@TamasKiss-yk4sti don't wanna say the same as the other ones who were right but yeah S25 uses SD8E which is coming out in October of this year, 1 month after the A18 so ist indeed comparable as the base chip stays the same
You're the absolute best reviewer of in-depth CPU Reviews! Thanks for these videos, keep them coming!!! (Special Request: can you do the same video with an English voiceover, so no need to re-record it just I want to hear without pausing the video multiple times to look a the results)
The competition among digital bloggers in China is too fierce, and the area outside China is not their main market. Coupled with their busy work, they have no energy to produce English versions.
Just for reference the 8Gen3 GPU was 3Tflops and the 8Gen4 (8Elite) should be 4Tflops, which should also be competitive with the M4 iPad. Ayaneo is soon to release the amazing Pocket EVO with an OLED dispaly and using the G3X Gen2 (8Gen2 CPU + 8gen3 GPU), hopefully they can update that model with the 8Gen4 (8Elite) in spring 2025.
@@INTJ791 Agreed but I don't think I've seen AppleM4 on any efficiency charts. Apple makes a big fuss about their M4 chips but if the raw numbers translate anywhere near to real world gaming performance then the relative value of the M4 iPad is practically a scam compared to the latest Snapdragon.
@@budthecyborg4575check m4 ipad review , two dots exist, peak and power saving benchmark, because complete curve line need root, curve line can be made because geekerwan have permission from manufacturer brand
@@tdan4048 Not exactly: th-cam.com/video/Gizd7PlzqVs/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=161 iPad M4 in Wild Life Extreme got 9,049 vs. the 8Gen3 gets 4,331, extrapolate that based on the graphs in this video and the 8gen4 should be 5,775 which places the iPad M4 at 56% faster.
This years performance really went beyond my expectations! So excited for the S25U for which I had been saving up money the whole year. It's gonna be a beast! But am a bit skeptical about the Single core efficiency curve tho! By the way of you saying that it could be a bit different🥶
I don't think there would be a special For Galaxy version this time. In the last two years when we had For Galaxy, Qualcomm did not mention Samsung in the list of partners unlike this year.
.1 Ghz isn't a whole lot. They better focus on optimising the normal chipset instead or it would suck like the S24U😂. S23 galaxy version was good though 😊
Looking at the amazing performance and efficiency, i feel like Google Tensor and Exynos are even more behind. Especially Tensor with it's mediocre gpu performance, which is not on flagship level.
Can you please have a look at the Exynos 2400? I know that it is not a China AP however it is used in many S devices around the globe and it has quite a different cluster compared to the 9300 and 8 gen 3 and the RDNA based GPU is something no one looked into yet for the now last gen of flagship SoCs.
@@vokhanhtoan7623 Thank you for the headsup, unfortunately given then are Chinese and the fact that they use Chinese media (as well as Billibilli more than TH-cam) I was not aware of the fact that they are running that website. Big thanks.
Looks like the Nuvia cores can flex its wings on mobile, some impressive stuff there. My only gripe is that the SoC is the most expensive in Snapdragon mobile.
Speaking of web benchmarks, next time could you please run tests as Octane 2.0, speedometer 3.0 and fishbowl in Firefox as well just for the sake of comparison? Thanks
Even though the snapdragon 8 elite is the most powerful soc right now, mediatek is still really good considering it's much more affordable than snapdragon 8 elite and still much powerful gpu than a18 pro.
挺好大家多多支持发哥，这样高通才不会挤牙膏
反壟斷，棒打出頭鳥，擠牙膏已經是共識，除非今天大家一起噴發，不然只有一家在噴，一定吃反壟斷。你以為NVIDIA為什麼一直被針對？他的GPU超過對手太多。
都在烧钱研发新东西然后淘汰弱的后继续挤牙膏
希望bug可以少一點
AMD：这个我熟啊
发哥是誰＠＠？周潤發小馬哥？
這次高通、發哥都很強，現在就看各家廠商的實力了
發哥就差一個廠商幫他出高規旗艦手機了
@@金蜜蜂 Vivo挺喜歡用發哥晶片的，但只有一家根本不夠啊😭
@@金蜜蜂 vivo x200不是？
@@rexlin5830只有一家不太夠啊😂
@@金蜜蜂三星旗艦也是9400
挖高通也發飆了 漂亮就喜歡你們卷
+1
就喜欢资本互卷，消费者得利
這次自主架構是收購來的 Nuvia 所設計，Nuvia 的大頭又是來自蘋果的晶片設計部門，走相似的路很合理。
果然還是要用蘋果打贏蘋果
看來高通可能要吃官司了
@@JohnsonChiw 吃什麼 🤣🤣 每一台車都四個門是不是也告一告
正所謂打不贏就加入😂
@@ian0509i總是有藉口能告的，一個CPU有成千上萬的專利
Awesome video as always Geekerwan, greatly appreciate the subtitles!
Gawdamn that's a huge jump. The battery endurance of the new crop of flagships is gonna be insane!
That just on the A18 level, but the chip itself will be in the S25U (Note 25.. what should release together with the iPhone 17 with A19 next year..), so unless you say that the 5 gens backward Note 20 what released with the iPhone 12 was only the iPhone 11 (so the one year old iPhone that time, not the one what comes out with it..) competitor, than they are still behind if they only can match the 2024 flagship chip with their 2025 flagship chip.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st s25U launches in January and Feb and ip 17 launches in september. a19 wont be out for while
@@TamasKiss-yk4stJust because they are released in the same year doesn't mean they are the same generation. S25 is competing with iPhone 16, not 17
@@TamasKiss-yk4sti don't wanna say the same as the other ones who were right but yeah S25 uses SD8E which is coming out in October of this year, 1 month after the A18 so ist indeed comparable as the base chip stays the same
@@TamasKiss-yk4st you should compare the chip release in the same year, so it's A18 pro vs 8 elite.
真的喜欢看极客湾的视频，尤其是各种 cpu、手机、显卡以及前沿数码科技的视频，希望一直做出好视频。
😊有競爭 對消費者才有好處
選擇多樣性 價格合理 🎉
三大CPU都是N3E, 就看谁的设计好
@@vc7280 实际还是看软件
结果今年都涨价了
You're the absolute best reviewer of in-depth CPU Reviews! Thanks for these videos, keep them coming!!!
(Special Request: can you do the same video with an English voiceover, so no need to re-record it just I want to hear without pausing the video multiple times to look a the results)
They mostly make videos in Billy Billy
You asking too much
@@chaiguntou😂I paused. What is billy billy? Then I thought of bilibili
@@heibai4920 我用的翻译软件我也不知道为什么翻译成 BillyBilly😅
我也很希望做英语评测的博主，专门为我们中文用户做一个中文配音。
今天瘋狂等極客灣評測~~~
高通、發哥、蘋果誰贏
當然是台積電贏啊😂
商單接好接滿
@@waca7414 N3E
往2000邁進
台積電要等美國總統大選之後進場，我怕川普搞甚麼政策搞死台積電
2018年的超級禁售令對台積電等都沒什麼影響了 別擔心
川普頂多靠北怎麼不去美國建廠罷了@@ntr1381
The Dimensity 9400 looks Amazing here. Similar performance while only maxing at only 3.6GHZ.
Oryon第二代架構性能就超越了公版非常厲害，期待後續和公版拉開差距
本來以為發哥要勝利了
結果高通又上來了…
好鬼
聯發科9400沒有用自研架構
@@Freedom-of-Thought发哥也没那实力，能用公版已经不错了
还不一定，这只是工程机，最后还是要看用户手机的能效比和散热系统调度优化。
@@Freedom-of-Thought 华为麒麟如果不被美国制裁，现在也是4大芯片之一了。虽然我不买华为，但我希望能有更多的芯片厂商加入。芯片厂越少就越垄断挤牙膏。
please do videos in english again😭😭. they are my favs have watched all of them. so informative
The competition among digital bloggers in China is too fierce, and the area outside China is not their main market. Coupled with their busy work, they have no energy to produce English versions.
期待
Snapdragon 8 Elite for galaxy
S25 Utral已經準備購入了
手上的21fe 火龍888，我受夠了
這不正要入冬天了嗎? 給你暖暖xd
你運氣不錯 肯定沒有遇到綠線才會有這種想法
檢查一下你手機背膠有無脫落 被蓋有無開裂了吧 我的好幾支三爽手機都中標了
通常for galaxy的
實際效能都不怎樣
三星不是很會調 XD
Seriously why buy samsung if vivo available
同是受S21荼毒，不过后来它坏了，换了23U。我觉得23那一代你就该换的，三星代工高通那两年简直了😂
这次各家处理器都好卷，真是太赞了
最高の年ですね
SD8Gen1、888の悪夢が嘘の様
If I am not wrong the 8 Elite is still using ARM V8 and not ARM V9 right?
I don't know if Pegasus will have an ARM V9 ISA, let's hope so.
Just for reference the 8Gen3 GPU was 3Tflops and the 8Gen4 (8Elite) should be 4Tflops, which should also be competitive with the M4 iPad.
Ayaneo is soon to release the amazing Pocket EVO with an OLED dispaly and using the G3X Gen2 (8Gen2 CPU + 8gen3 GPU), hopefully they can update that model with the 8Gen4 (8Elite) in spring 2025.
You do not need Tflops info if complete gpu energy curve exist, tflops only measure peak performance
@@INTJ791 Agreed but I don't think I've seen AppleM4 on any efficiency charts.
Apple makes a big fuss about their M4 chips but if the raw numbers translate anywhere near to real world gaming performance then the relative value of the M4 iPad is practically a scam compared to the latest Snapdragon.
@@budthecyborg4575check m4 ipad review , two dots exist, peak and power saving benchmark, because complete curve line need root, curve line can be made because geekerwan have permission from manufacturer brand
M4 = 8 elite x2 😅
@@tdan4048
Not exactly: th-cam.com/video/Gizd7PlzqVs/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=161
iPad M4 in Wild Life Extreme got 9,049 vs. the 8Gen3 gets 4,331, extrapolate that based on the graphs in this video and the 8gen4 should be 5,775 which places the iPad M4 at 56% faster.
Very appreciated for providing English subtitles, but really wish you would do English videos like used to do a while back.
This years performance really went beyond my expectations! So excited for the S25U for which I had been saving up money the whole year. It's gonna be a beast! But am a bit skeptical about the Single core efficiency curve tho! By the way of you saying that it could be a bit different🥶
哇！出了！！！
7:39 能效略優於蘋果？ 蘋果分辨率不是比較高？
Yep, it should have slightly lower score at the same resolution as A18 Pro.
从此不看b站，youtu是真清晰
b站又没给你打开给你广告😅
我买了youtube premium没有广告太爽了家庭版就是香😂
@@wzwtank 那我不管
@@KaiChuanLeong 求共享
@@黄小天-g4z 满
热乎的
Please we need SD 8 elite analysis in English if possible. I hope you could drop a video on your English channel. Appreciate the hard work you do.
English subtitles are available. They're not auto-generated so they're actually accurate
@@ASEM-1123 Yes i just watched the whole vid but i prefer if we could get 9ne in English as they make one of the best and special tech content on YT.
OKGod
Thanks! Have fun in Hawaii!
I wonder how much faster it will be once they optimize the chip for android. Plus you cant forget 8 Elite for Galaxy!
I don't think there would be a special For Galaxy version this time. In the last two years when we had For Galaxy, Qualcomm did not mention Samsung in the list of partners unlike this year.
While it seems like Samsung will choose MediaTek this time
.1 Ghz isn't a whole lot. They better focus on optimising the normal chipset instead or it would suck like the S24U😂. S23 galaxy version was good though 😊
hello bro good
高通這次不擠牙膏啦
在擠就死了
這三顆處理器都這麼優，難怪台積電的股票這麼穩
之後2nm 1nm勢必都得用台積阿
肯定稳啊，不止手机处理器，任何芯片只要想做最先进的制程，目前来说都绕不开台积电。这个红利，台积电至少能吃20年。
Looking at the amazing performance and efficiency, i feel like Google Tensor and Exynos are even more behind. Especially Tensor with it's mediocre gpu performance, which is not on flagship level.
和9400不分上下厉害厉害👍，发哥加油
這次不會跟9400一樣，媒體機和市售版差距很大吧
懂的都懂😂
神仙打架了！大家都差不多。跳出公版都有好成績了。華為之後自己的架構又會如何呢？三星😂
華為工藝不行，倒是三星什麼設備都不缺😂😂😂😂
@@boanzhou-tj8tm 3星應該去吃Intel ，這樣才是好事
三星難產中，不是設計問題
是....韓媒報導自家SF3良率才剛從0%拼到20%， 離業界期待7-8成有點遠
三星不能下單台積電n3E.
所以設計部門只是含淚放棄量產
華為更沒戲，他旗艦機性能在排行榜已經跌掉到中階水準了
製程不行，設計做什麼大改都沒有用，只有新製程才能塞大核心大快取還不怕變成火龍
华为没有人代工啊，现在国内制造设备厂商又不行，只能用约等于友商三四年前的性能的麒麟芯片，目前来看，靠着自己的系统硬件全自研打通的便利，抛开游戏的话，日常使用其实还挺流畅的。不过靠着爱国营销，加上自身也过硬的实力，国内销量其实还蛮好的，说不定真可以撑到国产替代接近世界一流的水平。
@@waffenss1234567 我就是那個意思中國沒突破工藝暫時不考慮競爭，三星還是認輸讓台積電代工算啦🤗🤗
完咯，苹果的soc都没优势了
省了8分半。
這才是好事 沒競爭 就不會拿點東西出來
長年牙膏 ，期待今年16 像xs，12 那兩年 銷量 滑個鐵爐，明天17才會上點東西。
阿剧透🤨我还没看
搞不好蘋果以後也丟工程機出來打
@@benimaruhou429 蘋果已經把工程師（M1 晶片團隊 ）丟出去打了 ，工程機不會再丟了
Thank you for putting english subtitle❤
我的三星S21 FE高級暖暖包 還能再戰！
要是这家伙的各项硬件规格再增强些 用在PC上 那简直美如画
Waiting for this
Love from india
🐄💦🥃 -> 😋????
@@SillyCar31for you I guess
@@SillyCar31Japan doesnt need people like u
@@SillyCar31 蝙蝠湯好喝
@@apicalshark678 小英都说好😋
the snapdragon frame graphs are very spiky compared to the 9400. Could it mean more stutter? Will 9400 be smoother?
Or is Snapdragon stronger? Tianji 9400 engineering machine cheated.😅
Can you please have a look at the Exynos 2400? I know that it is not a China AP however it is used in many S devices around the globe and it has quite a different cluster compared to the 9300 and 8 gen 3 and the RDNA based GPU is something no one looked into yet for the now last gen of flagship SoCs.
There is data of 2400 on socpk
@@vokhanhtoan7623 Thank you for the headsup, unfortunately given then are Chinese and the fact that they use Chinese media (as well as Billibilli more than TH-cam) I was not aware of the fact that they are running that website. Big thanks.
@@Archer_Legendwhy you block my reply?
thanks for benchmarks
以前为什么不在低频能效花功夫呢，是不喜欢吗？
Looks like the Nuvia cores can flex its wings on mobile, some impressive stuff there. My only gripe is that the SoC is the most expensive in Snapdragon mobile.
請問你這裏的瀏覽器性能測試蘋果34。怎麼小白那邊29這不是誤差吧？兩邊的至尊分數也差小數點一位而已
Great video, you should test emulators like windows emulators 👍🏿
I like your videos very much, please make it in English as well... Thank you and great work🫡
我覺得工程機的調度太猛
可以期待一波
基頻 4.32 3.63 差 20% 測起來似乎沒差多少 😅 d9400若超頻20%會不會就碾壓過去?
超频20功耗怕不是上20w
想當噴火龍？😂
因为天玑跑不了高频率，跑到3.8就降频了
個人感覺 並沒有如某報標題出現碾壓的優勢 其實失望極了 加上查了一下基頻 根本差了20% 算是勝之不武吧
高通大核跑4.2g功耗比9400的x925还低，联发科不是不想超，是已经没办法超了，收益太低了。
每次改名不是翻車時候？
I've been excited about this chip since we found out Qualcomm bought Nuvia
等了好久了
部件信息有吗？
零日漏洞修复了没有？之前64款处理器共有的后门安全问题解决了吗？
Speaking of web benchmarks, next time could you please run tests as Octane 2.0, speedometer 3.0 and fishbowl in Firefox as well just for the sake of comparison?
Thanks
極客灣發片速度真快。😊
可採用高通自研核心等，
對於模擬器適配不知會不會有影響？
軟體商會自己找方法去適配的…畢竟高通基本上就是安卓市場內市佔率的保證，光看對岸就幾家已經確定了要用8G4(8E)，軟體商不可能就這樣擺爛除非他們不想做了
高通自研第一代芯片，肯定会有很多兼容性问题，建议先观望吧
希望遲些來個 紅魔+winlator PC STEAM 3A 大作分享教學 (不額外安裝散熱會燒壞嗎😅？）等到 8 Elite 第二代 可能可以跑GTA 6 720p 30fps 😂
发热量怎么样呢
wait for your video, love from China
發哥高通蘋果都很棒 效能過剩 一般大眾 用不了這麼高性能
等到崩鐵或原神可以穩1440p 120fps再來說效能過剩吧
这个时代的SOC同代横向比较，简单理解成看超大核就可以了，发哥的9400应该算是单核处理器，骁龙8E就是双核处理器了。说实话，发哥拿出来9400的时候，我是有点不适应的，就是怕高通后续的也打不过，由此转头买发哥的东西，还是有一点点不甘心的，现在就有点放心了。至于厨子的东西，多年来同时代的都能高出一大截性能，也逐渐被抹平并超越了，2024年都能打得过厨子算是历史转折点了。
日日常應用裡還是用的小核多
the best, as always
I cant wait to see this masterpiece in Redmagic 10 pro ❤
S25 Ultra 可以买了，只是看Samsung要怎么调教。
上面的說三星很不會調
@@SHIRFAN先等等看一下極客彎測的真機數據就好，再怎麼不會調也不可能差太遠
S25 還是領先版 應該也會有10667
三星芯片最好，频率最高，但性能最弱😅
保守調教而已。不然電池早gg了，看看陸版機幾乎電池都不耐用，而且陸版機很不容易取得電池。三星反而原廠副廠都有。
想看同款旗艦用不同家的晶片比較😮
请问8gen4 , 8gen elite ，8gem x elite是一样的东西吗？
前兩個一樣 最後一個筆電用的
高通又更猛了
大膽！竟然用我的魔法對付我😆
操作系统Android 15，最多 2 项重大 Android 升级芯片组高通 SM8750-AB 骁龙 8 Elite（3 纳米）中央处理器八核（2x4.32 GHz Oryon V2 Phoenix L + 6x3.53 GHz Oryon V2 Phoenix M）图形处理器Adreno 830
终于开始赛博斗蛐蛐了，请选择你的蛐蛐
莫名想起875改叫888的那段“佳话” 0:16
還有8Gen1
@@湯湯-b7u8gen1不算火龙吧😮
@@xingxingliu3551 8gen1功耗也不行，三星製程
高通加油打 中低階 打爆聯發科啊 我要買都買不到啊
別傻了,,,,聯發科早就是手機晶片的龍頭了..高端如果還不能贏,中低端 高通吃不到
4:14 喔齁齁齁 😏
arm的公版有多差，还记得麒麟9000么，当年吊打。现在高通也学会了。
S8 Elite 都是蘋果前工程師開發，當然設計差不多😂
😂
蘋果的靈壓還在嗎?
Those CPU power-performance curves would be better done with SPEC 2017.
剛剛好像有量產機的評測，馬上被下架了😂
B站有
@@陳奕揆那个
@@faitpeak822 昨天找到了，現在YT也發了，不用找了🤣
現在蘋果處理器真的沒有甚麼競爭力了😢，反到安卓現在處理器今年大放意彩🎉🎉
B站的视频开启二倍速跑不满60帧，TH-cam就可以，不知道跟码率有没有关系。
影视已经种下了种子。
B站當480p看就行
You're awesome sir!
Both are great, personally, I'm going with Mediatek; the gpus is better and its cheaper, although the 8 elite is better in cpu performance.
不知道新核心支援度怎麼樣？😅
有點期待wine轉釋性能如何
新架構+超大緩存=爆炸的發熱量 爆炸的性能
The video I've been waiting
能跑Windows嗎？
有點期待了
I predict that D9400 phones will start at $350 and S8E at $500 (almost 1.5 times as expensive)
If so, I'll get a D9400 one.
這次兩家SOC都很有實力
反觀A18 Pro 再繼續走自己的路，說難聽點現在也只剩ios留的住我這個A15的用戶了
不能噴火 才是好處理器
Didnt think the day would come where 8 gen 3 looks bad
聽說驍龍8 Elite 比發哥的9400 貴20%，這性能表現可圈可點吧
芯片看的不只是性能，还有影音方面的解码支持。还有维护周期。高通好像是7年，联发科是4年。目前来说对联发科优化最好的vivo OPPO。其它手机用联发科经常出问题，没有高通的稳定。
说实话，在其他看不见的方面，高通还是有些强势的，比如视频解码之类的。我高通换联发科后才感觉到
用高通的时候根本没注意过
@@蛙又破防 哦。。具體情況是怎樣？聯發科沒有硬體解碼嗎？我還在考慮 9400 呢。。。
@@蛙又破防 联发科用的基带也是联发科提供的，高通为啥最终能做大做强就是通讯专利就能压死联发科
前幾天測OPPO的天璣9400 沒有寫上記憶體頻率 這次總算有標上了
Even though the snapdragon 8 elite is the most powerful soc right now, mediatek is still really good considering it's much more affordable than snapdragon 8 elite and still much powerful gpu than a18 pro.
Which won’t be able to be used in a smartphone at all… so real-world performance of A18 Pro vs the Android counterparts will again be higher
期待市售機，想換掉我的s20 了
搞不好明年連arm公版都用上大L2設計了，最近幾年CPU真的卷到不行。😂
不知道什麼時候變成CPU都用大L1（做夢中）
曲线图为什么a18pro不显示出来？，之前天际也是a18pro不显示，为什么？没有测试，那点两个点也是什么？
应该是苹果系统限制没有精细测试
Complete energy efficiency curve need ROOT
因為華碩的遊戲輔助離不開他們的手機，一直不知道要不要換成最新的ROG，現在看來是有機會換了
看完測評我也再考慮換ROG或紅魔了😂
@@台灣Taiwan 紅魔使用者：快逃