The Faller's Corner - HARD Side Leaning Tree, Sizwell AND A Triple Hinge, With A Mid-Distance Push
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2020
- This is one way to push a very hard side leaning tree. The area has “brash” type wood in the bole as we could see .
Not the same 461 (this one is mine) as seen in the Torquer 440 vs Mid-Range XPW vs Torquer 461 but a similar build.
~ :06 noting lean of this tree Saw the slight lean of the top out the left Main part of bole down low is leaning to the right and vectored down.
~ :42 looking at the curly (wavy, brash) wood on the sister tree stump.
~ :55 noting things may go south.
~ 1:10 clearing duff and inspecting.
~1:18 back baring trying to get a lower stump, a Matterhorn will be a problem for other trees.
~ 1:46 putting in the ax into the deck kerf - movement is monitored.
~ 1:50 until 2:02 watching the ax handle for movement.
~ 2:12 & 2:14 watching chips - looking for rot.
~ 2:28 start the sizwell.
~ 2:40 Deep with the initial vertical plunge cut, lets more the hinge be dynamic .
~ 2:52 making the well broader on near side to prevent contact between the diagonal and deck cuts.
~3:17 opening up far side, making sure there is a gap at the back so the hinge the wood can be as dynamic as possible.
~ 4:30 inspecting for back cut elevation.
~ 4:49, 4:55, & 4:59 inspecting line of the face for holding wood width, getting pinched “wood” be a das-aster!
~ 5:20 reevaluate the gun now that both sides are in.
~ 5:26 more of the face to gun the tree a fuzz higher.
~ 5:49 final look at the line of the hinge.
~ 5:52 initial vertical cut for multiple hinge Unclear on which one will be utilized Backcut needs to be started. Tree needs to be watched for movement.
~ 6:07 pondering the look of the stump/hinge, considering thoughts in the
~ 5:52 timeline.
~ 6:32 starting the close side of the backcut.
~ 6:27 watching for initial movement.
~ 6:31 noticing the tree is sitting back ALREADY. Bole of redwood trees is where a lot to most of the weight is located the majority.
~ 6:36 viewing bar to see what the distance is from the face/vertical cut for the double/triple hinge.
~ 6:38 watching & sawing, the tree continuing to sit back.
~ 6:42 siting the bar to face relationship.
~ 6:44 looking up again watching for movement.
~ 6:46 to 6:48 take another “siting lap” (look) at the hinge to get my mind’s eye focused on where the tip is in relation to line of hinge.
~ 6:50 looking up again for movement, tree continues to sit back.
~ 6:52 to 7:00 a few more “looksee”s watching for movement.
~ 7:02 second vertical cut to net this a triple hinge stump.
~ 7:12 watching for movement.
~ 7:21 finishing off back cut.
~ 7:23 hand on the bole & completing the backcut with several looks up.
~ 7:42 looking up to verify the tree has stopped moving.
Hand on the bole is purposeful. I am “feeling” for/if any wood is moving/breaking I’m gingerly sawing the backcut, “pulsating” blasts, also purposefully. Allows the tree to move slowly and not come back to far. Settle in gently if you will.
~ 8:01 alerting “assistant” .
~ 8:12 kill dead sucker.
~ 8:34 look at drivee.
~ 8:44 sawing driver tree.
~ 8:46 look at drivee
~ 8:55 check the gun, look at the drivee
~ 9:00 using plumb to gun off the saw’s sites.
~ 9:06 gunning the driver tree.
~ 9:16 to 9:38 adjusting gun, putting in bias cut, and knocking out the face.
~ 9:39 having a looksee in the driver tree’s face.
~ 9:43 making an adjustment to the bias cut.
~ 9:59 start on the drive tree backcut.
~ 10:05 take a look up the drivee tree looking for movement.
~ 10:14 adjusting the face in the driver tree. Noteworthy - I adjusted the face on the far side so it did not come up tight so quickly. This is after starting on the back cut, while watching the initial movement direction in the driver tree. Premise: having the face open up enough, but not to much, so the driver tree will be leveraging itself into the drivee tree at about the same time it hits the drivee tree..
~ 10:34 start on the driver tree backcut again.
~ 10:37 having another look up the driver tree looking for movement.
~ 10:40 having a look around the front for a “siting mark” on the tip’s location. Noteworthy - cutting the corner off on this tree could yield catastrophic “FAIL”.
~ 10:46 pull the saw back a bit and continue with the backcut .
~ 10:50 to 11:08 multiple up looks for driver tree movement - specifically the flight path and if it is on course looking for limbs coming down is also every time I looked up.
~ 11:04 watching and steering as the tree is falling.
~ 11:07 hit the corner.
~ 11:09 we watched the driver tree nail the pushee tree dead-on and start the pushing process.
~ 11:12 we hear my “assistant’s” in awe-ness.
~ 11:15 to 11:17 we watched ~ 300 feet of tree hitting the deck, in the road, and not down over the bank.
~ 11:30 The net was 3 long, long logs, out of each of these trees. There was an out building & yard down over the bank that either tree could have topped out on/in.
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I climb & do residential production tree work in Michigan. I've recommended that so many watch your videos on not only felling but chainsaw porting & I'm still constantly learning from you sir. Thanks for the great videos & tips of the the tools & trade. Always cool in hair raising situations. Casually killing it!
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Triple hinge and sizwheel combo was awesome. First time I've seen them used together. 👍
I needed to watch it twice - the second time made more sense after seeing it once and reading your timeline.
Masterful work mate. Very well done.
God smiles on you A LOT!
D M hi. Y yes, yes He does. Thanks for watching.
My buddies,... now we have to get Buck'n to comment and I have my 3 Omegos, together. Love you guys and your videos, like a 1,2 Punch from Ali, the best in the industry. I choose to learn from the best, that why I'm here. Shine On.
That’s the greatest under cut
More very nice and thoughtful work Jack, push tree the master key in this operation so hope folk read the above description to get the full understanding of just how much went into this !
Dave hi. I had a city manager tell me one time this (falling timber) was a simplistic job. He was motioning with his hands/arms while rotating them at the elbows simulating trees "just falling over". The insinuation was that it's a job that is worthy of a simpleton. Disrespectful commentary went on for awhile. @27, I remember being amazed at the arrogance/ego coupled with a COMPLETE lack of understanding. My girl friend at the time had to do an intervention on me!
I had to cut a lot of the explanation due to character limitations. Hope not to much of the meaning was lost. Your a good tree life taker, with years of experience, so it falls on acute ears.
Thanks for stopping by.
Grew up logging in MN. Biggest stuff we cut was about 4 feet (pine) on the stump with most in the 30-36" range. Methods we used were not near as advanced as yours but they didn't need to be. Bought a 461 a couple years ago just to do some minor tree removal and a little bit of firewood - running a chainsaw I have found to be very therapeutic. I've also discovered that watching you videos is therapeutic as well. Thank You! Awesome job.
That's a few years of experience right there. Thanks for sharing.
Nice job 👍👍👍
Masterful. Great imagination and even better execution.
That was freaking amazing great job
Great job! Those side leaners in tight quarters can be a challenge.
I usually put in a winch rope or two to keep them off what I want to protect & assist them to fall where I want.
Great use of swizzle & triple hinge.
Thank you.
I've rarely been where the use of ropes and/or cables were an option.
Production cutting.
Most of the time I don't even have my jack handy.
Creativity & improvisation the way of the Pacific Northwest timberfaller I guess.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 , totally understand.
Peace to you…
That was a nail biter. As always, very professionally done. Poetry in motion. Stay safe!
Your skills are truly amazing!
Nice shot!
Another Great Job on Accurate Felling! Excellent running saw and sharp chain made it look easy! Liked !! Subbed !!
That saw is cooking’!
That was dang cool Jack!! Fine work sir and safe cuttin
Awesome! Thanks for posting.
really appreciate the description notes
Leigh de Abreu hi. I had to pare it down a bit due to character limitations. Hope not much was lost.
Thanks for watching.
Nice shot Jack , good cutting and enjoy your videos .
Master faller builder great video and that Stihl sounds sweet
hi jack I watch all your videos. I am a big chainsaw nut. I restore old pioneer saws p60,p62, and 655bp. I live in the sierra mountains. thank you for all the videos.
Wow, thanks for the amazing content.
Thank you.
And for watching.
Good stuff. I do like videos about the saws more.
But you post them for free.
So I will just say THANK YOU for the entertainment. :)
Super interesting vid, gets you a sub! Stay safe out there chap, greatings from the UK
thank you for your time to reply. I wish someday we could talk so I can pick you brain. I love the way your saws run. I port my saws but they doing run like yours lol
Nice shot
Nice shooting!!
Great job. It’s funny I keep bending my neck to look into the face . Old habits die hard
Very nice
Thank you, and for watching.
I cut timber on the east coast but this video is totally bad ass. You are a true professional
Brandon hi.
Thanks for the kind words, and for watching.
On a Dime, Thumbs Up !
Using the plumb bob to site the seat cut to aim at the 2nd tree was smart.
Sweet!!!!
Little overkill, wouldn´t you say? :-) Nicely done
Nice.
Man that was some kind of voodoo !
Nice strike.
Again, you sir are an artist!
what muffler mods do you do to the stihls. i love the smell of the motul 800 oil what a great oil
Definitely don’t Want any wind when you’re doing stuff like that! Good job.
R F hi. Nope! That's why I tackled this operation "in the cool if the morning". Thanks for watching.
Damm tht nice falling
Praise the Lord
Nice. Would've been sweet to see the stump of the first tree you cut up. Be safe.
Jack you should have been a surgeon.
No kidding unh! 😃
I was lost there for awhile, that was the 1st of your videos that I felt somewhat uneasy, but at the end, it made more sence to me. A little nerve racking at first.
The advanced technique of walking away from a tree about to fall and cutting on another, I was growing eyes on the back of my head, ah ha, wow, good job, what can I say, out of my league, but who knows someday it may help me. Sure entertaining.. Do you think you could have dropped that 1st tree solo? What would be the risk? Barber chair or loosing it over the edge?
Thanks for making the video, my nerves have calmed and cooled now as we swing below zero here tonight in Alaska.
Thankyou and Hello to All in the lower 48..
John hi. I was watching it out of the corner at all times in addition to the more noticeable pans. Multiple eye glances that could not be seen through the camera.
This was not shown to go "hey try this". It was shown as one way to deal with a tree like this. But, I would not recommend it to those that question their skill set. Or those with limited felling experience. Good way to have a problem if not knowing the "just how far" or not paying attention, or both.
Probably, but a good way to loose a tree off sideways, but it was wedgeable That would have been a different method though.
No since in getting excited, nothing went "Almost Wrong".
Thanks for watching.
Mr. Jack, thanks for your reply. Even in comments and replys, one can learn, if one is willing to listen, I'll keep watching, listening and learning. Thanks for your efforts. (Your service), I watch other videos, than say, ok...let's go watch the 'right way' , then watch yours. Ah ha, Keep up the great work, so many folks benefit from your videos, I Know You've Heard That B4 But It is Still worth saying.
May God continue to shine on you and your viewers.
Timber!...be kind.
The Alaskan..I heard they are opening up the Tongass National Forrest in Southeast for limited harvesting, that's great.
👍🏼👍🏼
Hi thanks for another great video ! I'm a young faller just starting in the game (>6months exp.) and I have found these videos really helpful. I have a question regarding saws, I'm in the market for a saw and I've been hesitating between a 372xp and the new echo 7310 which I've read a lot of good things about. (I'm in southern Europe so I'm not dropping anywhere near the caliber of trees your dropping, a lot of oak and beech). Would love to see you review the echo. If anyone else reading this as got suggestions, I would greatly appreciate any input !
Many thanks ;)
Hey Oliver. Depending on the size of trees you will be cutting, I highly suggest you look into a saw in the 60cc class range such as a 562xp or a Stihl ms362. 70cc saws such as the Stihl ms462 or the 572xp are considered logging saws, but again it depends on what size of timber you are working with. You don't want to lug around a heavy saw with a big bar when you can accomplish the same task with a smaller saw. To conserve energy, I more often than not fall my trees with a 70cc saw and have my ms261 close by to limb and even buck the tree because it is so light, but has lots of power for its size. That way you stay fresh when you production falling. You can't go wrong with a Stihl or Husqvarna, I own various sizes from top handles all the way to 90cc saws and have never been disappointed. Can't comment on the Echos because I have yet to run one. Although the 372xp is a great saw, the new autotune 572xp and 562xp have a lot of power to weight ratio and you don't need to adjust jets.
God bless and I hope this helps you make a decision if you haven't already.
down here where i live people use alot of avgas for there saws. what fuel do you use. my favorite saw that use tested is the torque monster 461. i wish my saw ran like that.
Billy hi. I don't not agree with it's use in saws in all honesty. Avgas is designed to burn SUPER cool/slow - not necessarily a bad thing - but it contains lead. There are no valves, seats, or guides that need the lead for lubrication in a saw. Your lungs need it even LESS than your saw. I shy away from lead fuel & additives personally.
Sometimes it's race gas - unleaded - or pump gas laced with boost.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 lead is bad for rings. Almost all the old saws from the 60s need rings. Good for exhaust valves only. Good riddance!
What bar is that brother?
i also use motul 800 i mix 3oz per gallon
Great setup and dealing with that learner excellento.....that saw sounded very healthy...a 461??? God Bless
Shoe hi. My "481" - as a couple of customers coined them. Blessings to all in your camp as well.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 481 lol good one! Have a question....my old partner use to chisel gringd our chains...he had a Silvey grinder...did such a good job... razor sharp.So I purchased a Simington Sling atm chisel grinder from another cutter...went to there website watched their videos on set up....my problem is getting the wheel dressed correctly...I can get the chain to cut okay...but not great, I know the grinder is capable it's me not getting the wheel right. You have a Simington?If so can you please do a video on caller corner addressing how to correctly setup/dress the wheel. Thank you Shoe in Southern Oregon
Sorry for the spell miss check....smart phone...
you use motul 800. what mix ratio do you mix you gas
Billy hi. I blend my own mix oil. I run ~ 48/50:1.
Thanks for watching.
I dont understand what that little chain is used for never seen it where I live
It's a plumb Bob. He's checking the lean of the tree.
Plum Bob... Tells you where and how the tree is leaning.
Gentlemen hi. I always thought that the "Bob" was on the end of the line, lol. I will use it to indicate the for/aft lean initially a lot of the time. But, here I'm using it to sight off the gunning lines on the saw for a more precise looksee at the face's gun since the margin for error was very small.
Thanks for watching.
Hello, I’m in fort bragg California I would like a port job on my saw 461 stihl can you help me out?
Jordan hi.
Ever get into the Jackson?
My email is in the description area.
Thanks for watching.
The fallers corner, for people who keep falling over.
Then l m an excellent faller!
Wedge it and sledge it... too long... a timeline? 😆
Grandslam it’s outta here......
OSHA would not be happy lol
Whose the dude?
LL hi. The chaser - to intercept any of the neighbors. Thanks for watching.
If you take the GoPro out of the plastic cases we can hear you.
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