What makes a language... a language? - Martin Hilpert

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  • @kh3791-f1g
    @kh3791-f1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2306

    The animator deserves a raise. The animation gives the video so much more depth. Just amazing

    • @cutepuppy14
      @cutepuppy14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It's not always the same animater and there are usually more then one

    • @wardy4887
      @wardy4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      There are animators all across the World making animations for Ted-Ed, and as "cute puppy" stated, they don't make a whole video alone. You can become a Ted-Ed animator too if you pass their tests.

    • @kh3791-f1g
      @kh3791-f1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Wow I didn't know that. Props then to all their animators around the world, they always do a fantastic job

    • @jacksonshaw7140
      @jacksonshaw7140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If they gave a raise for every time we’ve said “give them a raise” they would go broke 💀

    • @akashin6385
      @akashin6385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Smooth animation.

  • @matthewjzack.9447
    @matthewjzack.9447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    As a Language major (English) living here in the Philippines, I LOOOVE that this video talked about the politics that goes behind the "standardization" of a language, as well as talked about the distinction of language and dialect in a very nuanced and contextualized manner.
    For years, Filipinos were taught that languages outside Tagalog - the language that was spoken mainly in the capital of Manila, were Filipino "dialects." With the standardization and legislation of Filipino (with Tagalog as its base) and English as the official languages of the Philippines - meaning, the languages that were going to be used in official documents, as well as the main medium of instruction in schools sort of colonized and gentrified the *hundreds* of distinct regional languages of the Philippines. Language teaching bodies, as well as the academe, has been advocating to properly educate Filipinos that there are *languages* outside Tagalog, as a way to also acknowledge their distinct culture and heritage as well as advocate for the rise of more linguistic studies of these languages and their variations so that they don't die out.

    • @girlsquad224
      @girlsquad224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeaaah! I couldn't agree more.

    • @ejlmkn9207
      @ejlmkn9207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Agreed. Cebuanos hate it when they hear tagalog is a national language

    • @matthewjzack.9447
      @matthewjzack.9447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@ejlmkn9207 To be fair, it *has* become the national language of the Philippines. But it has only become so because of the mandate to turn Filipino (the more "standardized" form of Tagalog) as an official language, along with English.
      We know as Cebuanos/Bisaya we outnumber those who natively just speak Tagalog. Most of Visayas and Mindanao speak Binisaya, but most if not all Filipinos can speak and/or understand Tagalog to various extents because of school and mass media.
      There is still a huge need to decentralize our concepts of a language/s away from the Metro.

    • @random-uv1sy
      @random-uv1sy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cebuano ra gyud akong preferred language

    • @erikkamarababol5037
      @erikkamarababol5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@random-uv1sy kana kana approved jud ko ana! 👏👏👏

  • @Michaelonyoutub
    @Michaelonyoutub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2336

    I learned french as a kid and in university I spent a year in germany in a region near the french border, and during that time was when I started to realize that what really makes languages different is just where someone drew the lines on the map. Before the idea of nations became a huge thing, people in any area likely could talk similar enough to communicate with people in any neighbouring area until someone drew lines between them and started educated them in a language similar to their own but different to the one across the border.

    • @willianrom
      @willianrom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Yeah, latin languages such as Portuguese, Spanish or Italian there are many similarities

    • @dmlugh
      @dmlugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Saluton, Cxu vi lernas esperanto?
      Maybe you want to know about "Esperanto", a language invented for international communication.

    • @brettito
      @brettito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The region of Alsace has changed nations many times. If language belonged to the nation and not the people, it would be a wonder that the people of Alsace could communicate at all.

    • @catsjacinto
      @catsjacinto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@brettito I don't know how people in Alsace speak, 'cause I've never been, but I'd guess the people speak in a way that kinda mixes french and german? In Portugal, if you go near the border with Spain in certain areas, the way they speak is almost a mixture of the two languages. Still perfectly understandable, at least for me, but I find it interesting how that works. I come from the Algarve, the south of Portugal. The most difficult accent for me to understand is from Açores. Madeira has a strong accent too, but my mom's family is from there so I guess I got used to it even though I can't imitate it. 😂

    • @brettito
      @brettito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@catsjacinto It's the same in Alsace. I have visited the region many times, but in my youth. I can only imagine how it now has incorporated English into the mix.

  • @MartinHilpert
    @MartinHilpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +769

    Author here, thanks a lot for the great discussions in the comments, and major props to the TED-Ed team who worked on this project. This was fun!

  • @whizzerbrown1349
    @whizzerbrown1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +723

    Everyone’s talking about the animator, but how about some love to the sound design guy? Sounds incroyable :D

    • @ionicman2908
      @ionicman2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed, the sound design is great

    • @literallyjustchickensandwich
      @literallyjustchickensandwich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What does "incroyable" mean? Genuine question btw.
      This way I’m gonna remember it better, instead of googling it.

    • @whizzerbrown1349
      @whizzerbrown1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@literallyjustchickensandwich
      Oh, haha, no problem, but that’s just an autocorrect typo. It’s the French equivalent of incredible, I just had the wrong keyboard on at the time lol
      If you’re interested, you could say “C’est incroyable !” (That’s incredible!) if you’d want to sound French, but it isn’t an English word
      I must add that I like your reason for not just googling it, that’s a brilliant way :)
      Sorry for the confusion

    • @literallyjustchickensandwich
      @literallyjustchickensandwich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@whizzerbrown1349 Thanks a lot!

    • @FalleminFaul
      @FalleminFaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ладно

  • @sakshitandel8572
    @sakshitandel8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +653

    As an Indian the "varieties" in a language is so fundamental of our culture ..throughout my life I have seen the way languages are sculptured in different areas of the same state especially in the border areas.

    • @abcxyz-
      @abcxyz- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Exactly..
      India is just language paradise.

    • @sakshitandel8572
      @sakshitandel8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@abcxyz- yup

    • @BruceWayne-qe7bs
      @BruceWayne-qe7bs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Most young Indians know atleast three languages

    • @sakshitandel8572
      @sakshitandel8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@BruceWayne-qe7bs Yeah me too keen on learning more.

    • @elizabethkeyton3826
      @elizabethkeyton3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yes, in small Kerala, there are dozens of varieties of Malayalam, which makes learning it more exciting/confusing/fun haha

  • @Zibouloubloub
    @Zibouloubloub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1095

    Narrator: "Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish can communicate in their native tongues together"
    also Swedes: "Imagine Danes speaking a comprehensible language"

    • @micayahritchie7158
      @micayahritchie7158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lol

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      One-way intelligibility is real

    • @StrangeDad
      @StrangeDad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      It's true that Danish is similar to both Swedish and Norwegian, and you can make out most of it if you read it, but talking to a Dane is a whole other story. There's a reason why both Norwegians and Swedes joke about the Danish language. All in good fun, mind you. We're neighbouring countries and bickering and making fun of each other is hard coded in our DNA. It's practically our traditions and culture.

    • @WilfredoAguilera
      @WilfredoAguilera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      spanish, italians and portuguese can comunicate in their native languaje too.

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Danes sound like they learned to talk from someone who was perpetually drunk.

  • @solar0wind
    @solar0wind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Standard languages are important. Imagine if contracts could just be interpreted randomly because some words mean something different in different dialects/varieties. But we shouldn't look down on varieties. I do think that learning of the standard version should be encouraged though. Here in Germany, people from regions where they don't speak standard German usually speak good standard German with people from other areas, but switch back to their respective dialects when talking to family. Not teaching a standard dialect excludes people who don't speak it because it's important as I wrote in the beginning. However, speaking your home dialect shouldn't be discouraged/punishes either.

    • @dmlugh
      @dmlugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe a Auxiliar Language can be the answer, like Esperanto.
      Mi lernas Esperanto kaj estas tre facxila

    • @solar0wind
      @solar0wind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @BR derivation Partly. In some countries you can decide what language you want to be contacted in, like in Ireland. That would be possible I suppose. Teaching some subjects in the regional variety would be a possibility too. Still, it's very impractical because you limit the potential candidates for jobs to people of that area, and here in Germany it's entirely likely that a young teacher has to move several times throughout the whole country, until they get a long-term contract. How are they supposed to learn every dialect? And the language in law needs to be concise and uniform or it will just lead to chaos. Imagine lawyers from one area of Germany read a court decision from another area and because of the different dialect, they'd understand wrong what it says! The chaos would be perfect.

    • @sergiofric3458
      @sergiofric3458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @BR derivation There are more important things then culture, system needs to work good for culture to survive. There should be standardized languages in every country I guess. In my country there’s minority called Malisori that speaks whole different language. They have gymnasium in their area that lets them learn everything in their own language which is very cool at first sight, but I think I shouldn’t mention that they have a lot of problems finding any good job in capital because they can’t speak our language good? I think minorities like that should have a single class that teaches their culture and language, but they should mostly educate in standard language so they can later have fair career opportunities.

    • @crazydragy4233
      @crazydragy4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @BR derivation People act like bilingualism or even polylinguism is a big deal when it's not.
      As much as I like utilitarianism this sort of stuff really is bs for sure. Language is fluid and infinite, yet prescriptivism is still as rampant as ever. It really is all about politics, just like the video stated.

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dmlugh No, because Esperanto is basically some kind of Spanish or Portugese artificially made regular. It discriminates all other languages.

  • @indigoeyes3227
    @indigoeyes3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    "...dynamic, diverse, and dazzling..." THE AMOUNT OF ALLITERATION THIS SENTENCE HAS

    • @weonanegesiscipelibba2973
      @weonanegesiscipelibba2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yo I didn't notice that at first :0
      English speakers tend to do that due to its history :)
      "Hwæt we GARdena, in GEARdagum..."
      [what] [we] [gore-danes'] [in] [yore-days/dawes]
      "Lo! We, of Spear Danes, in days of yore..."

  • @epiclegodude123
    @epiclegodude123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    wow the ending lines about language was absolutely beautiful

  • @jasontungjw
    @jasontungjw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1072

    The Chinese language has so many dialects that we Chinese ourselves are so confused at times lol.

    • @recordkeepingandinformatio8206
      @recordkeepingandinformatio8206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      South China is a mess of languages, cross provincial borders and suddenly you can't talk to anyone

    • @theywalkinguptoyouand4060
      @theywalkinguptoyouand4060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      How are you confused? No one's asking you to translate all.
      There are only about 7 or 8 major dialects in China. Several hundred subdialects are spoken by a tiny minority of the population. How will you be confused by that?
      India and Indonesia have far more

    • @rodrigoe3104
      @rodrigoe3104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Im not surprised at all considering China has almost half of the world’s human population (I’m exaggerating obviously, but still)

    • @DebiG1057
      @DebiG1057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great point. I have trouble with some British, Welch, and Irish English. I am am American.

    • @comradeofthebalance3147
      @comradeofthebalance3147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@theywalkinguptoyouand4060 You are comparing it slightly differently no? Just like in Indonesia and India, it is also regional and no one is asking to translate all. Just because there is somewhere that has comparatively more languages/dialects doesn’t make it less confusing for those with multiple ones.

  • @nayanaaaaaa
    @nayanaaaaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    As someone who is interested in languages and have been confused about accent/dialects (bcs ppl say I don't speak malay English) this is very intriguing. Thank you TedEd

    • @FractalComputer
      @FractalComputer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Linguists dont use the term accent

    • @KookieDanish
      @KookieDanish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Malaysian here, Malay English is basically like Standard British English, but some words have different pronunciations than British English's pronunciation. It is actually indistinguishable, but some are really distinctive, like water (British: wa'eh, ME: wa-te (e as in article 'a' ). Malay English tends to pronounce English word like how we used to pronounce Malay words. We also tend to mix Malay words with English word in our daily conversation, namely Manglish. I'm not a linguist, so I hope this clears a bit!

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, your username looks like most bot usernames I see on other videos.

    • @nayanaaaaaa
      @nayanaaaaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alex.g7317 lol I am not. i just don't want to be known and not use a cringey username bcs personality and stuff. Idk if that was a compliment but thank you

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nayanaaaaaa It wasn't really a compliment or an insult. it was just something I noticed. 👍

  • @bag3lmonst3r72
    @bag3lmonst3r72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Max Weinreich didn't say that. Rather it was an anonymous member of his audience, which he gave due credit to.

    • @LeCheckmate
      @LeCheckmate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He gave due credit to the anonymous person?

  • @Scott-wd1cq
    @Scott-wd1cq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm studying a masters in translation studies, and I really needed a reminder of why I love what I'm doing. Thank you so much TED-Ed

  • @SuperibyP
    @SuperibyP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Interesting, but arguably Arabic has even more interesting diversity in varieties, and a standardized form that isn't linked to any one specific Arabic speaking country, and it would have been cool to see that too. Try speaking standard Arabic to an Egyptian (particularly one that has not attended higher education) and you will *struggle*. Individual varieties in Arabic are often associated with the cultural contribution of the originating country to the Arab sphere, such that Egyptian Arabic is almost considered the defacto variety in showbiz, particularly in soap-operas. Sudanese Arabic is one of the most linguistically ancient forms of Arabic, despite it being in North Africa, and not in the Hijaz or Gulf regions.

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I once heard an Arabic line in an English song and asked a Marocoan and she had no clue, but another Arab understood it with ease...

    • @j7055
      @j7055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Egyptian here! Standard Arabic is pretty easy to me, but if you speak in the Moroccan or Saudi Arabian/gulf dialect to me I might cry

    • @br19_yt
      @br19_yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j7055 مافيه شيء اسمه لهجة سعودية، السعودية لوحدها فيها اكثر من لهجة 😂، لكن الغريب توقعت لهجاتنا السعودية سهلة لانها قريبة جدا من الفصحى 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @mohamadalrashed9064
    @mohamadalrashed9064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    Malaysian English is just English but you end every sentence with " La " XD

    • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
      @wheresmyeyebrow1608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Hong Kong English is just English but you end every sentence with "Ah"

    • @wondertraveller9928
      @wondertraveller9928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Are you sure la?

    • @StefanCatherasoo
      @StefanCatherasoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      No la 😁

    • @AA-bb9rb
      @AA-bb9rb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Also add "kan" randomly and insert Malay words and phrases randomly.

    • @edouardfelicite69
      @edouardfelicite69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no one asked

  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Accents are also closely correlated with geography. There is a hypothesis that people at higher altitudes use more ejective consonants in order to conserve water vapor and because it is easier with thinner air.

    • @Sebasco7
      @Sebasco7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Never heard about this, but It is the most interesting thing I read today. thanks for sharing.

    • @basimaman756
      @basimaman756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a just ridiculous suggestion. Might be true but doesn’t seem likely.

  • @elly.b
    @elly.b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    In my country, Tanzania we have over 127 tribes which all speak their own tribal languages but when need arises we all communicate in our national language Swahili, but because the tribal languages are the first/mother tongues to all children, this goes on to affect the accent in which they speak the Swahili language, so you can know someone's tribe or region of origin by listening to their accent as they speak Swahili.
    Fact: with more than 120 tribes with different languages, Tanzania 🇹🇿 is still one of the most peaceful Nations in Africa and the world!

    • @elly.b
      @elly.b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jellyfish-- Thanks

  • @wancheng89
    @wancheng89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Wah, I’m so proud that Malaysian English made it into a TedEd video 😃
    Our language is highly contextual. If someone asks how’s your food, the answer “ok la” could mean different thing based on the speakers tone of voice, facial expression etc. Not to mention other sounds we add into sentences like ok lo, ok ma, ok kut, ok meh. And sentences that don’t follow the correct structures because we translate from our respective mother tongue, and we often borrow words from other language. Haha, I love our unique multicultural influence on language. You can’t really find this anywhere else. ❤️🇲🇾

    • @fwoop4848
      @fwoop4848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In India we borrow from other languages too! :D Like infamous Hinglish, a combination of Hindi and English. I find myself doing this too, I speak Telugu, a regional language in India and when I can’t find/remember the right word in Telugu but remember it English I just add that word in. This is mostly the younger generation who adds in English words when we speak our native language, the older generation doesn’t really do that

  • @ecclesiasticman4417
    @ecclesiasticman4417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Philippines calls other languages within the country as dialects even though they're unintelligible to eachother.

    • @ИванОрел-й4ф
      @ИванОрел-й4ф 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      iirc they're called languages for quite a while now.

    • @zenithchan1646
      @zenithchan1646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I know right? theres:
      Tagalog
      Cebuano
      Ilocano
      Hiligaynon
      Kapampangan
      Pangasinan
      Tausug
      Waray
      Aklanon
      Ibanag
      Karay-a language
      Central Bikol
      Maguindanao
      Surigaonon
      Gaddang
      Romblomanon
      Cuyonon
      Yakan
      Maranao
      Bantoanon language
      Itawis
      Chavacano
      Ivatan
      Sambal
      And i speak Cebuano, Tagalog and English lol i mixed then together if i talk to someone

    • @xxlian_
      @xxlian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zenithchan1646 same (hiligaynon, tagalog and english)😆

    • @theramendutchman
      @theramendutchman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zenithchan1646 Sambal omg that's a food paste here
      *EDIT* I should probs clarify it's an Indonesian thing; it's mostly ground chillis and I use it to set my roommates orally on fire

    • @missesdimplez
      @missesdimplez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zenithchan1646 hi, I’m genuinely asking… do cebuanos not call it bisaya? is that also a name of a language?

  • @JessyingAround
    @JessyingAround 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Props to the animator(s) for doing such an amazing job!😯

  • @EliStettner
    @EliStettner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    “A language is a dialect with an Army and a Navy.”
    - Yiddish scholar Max Weinreich

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wehrmacht:
      San se deppat?
      Woas hast xagt?
      (Austrian: are you nuts? Bavarian: what did you say?)

  • @ariana_208
    @ariana_208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    My dad speaks schwäbisch, to other Germans it sounds like he’s speaking gibberish

    • @DerAnanasbaum
      @DerAnanasbaum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      As someone from Baden I have a moral obligation to tell you it is.
      (But at least it's not Bavarian)

    • @renzbryandejucos9038
      @renzbryandejucos9038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am fillipino which speaks Tagalog and my fathers dialect is Bisaya whist my mom speaks Bicolano

    • @jamieb4031
      @jamieb4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@renzbryandejucos9038 as a Filipino, I have to tell you that Bisaya and Bicolano are languages and not dialects.

    • @dakotag1254
      @dakotag1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jamieb4031 As a Visayan, I must point out that although Bisaya is often an interchangeable name for Cebuano, it could also be used to describe all of the languages and ethnic groups from the Visayas.

    • @jamieb4031
      @jamieb4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dakotag1254 I'm Visayan too! 6100, Hiligaynon mother tongue! And yes, I meant colloquial Bisaya as in Cebuano (although it's also used outside of Cebu). But yeah, you're also right.

  • @AleksaShule
    @AleksaShule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    "I speak 4 languages.... Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin."
    -Right... about that....

    • @vladimirvladoradomirovic
      @vladimirvladoradomirovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      How to create Ex - Yugoslavian languages: 1) Use existing language 2) Add some words connected to locals 3) Call it new language

    • @CDexie
      @CDexie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So, can people from all these nationalities understand each other fairly well?

    • @skenderbegshala3247
      @skenderbegshala3247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@CDexie perfectly

    • @vladimirvladoradomirovic
      @vladimirvladoradomirovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CDexie Yes + Slovenian and Macedonian about 80%, so yes, I can speak 6 languages

    • @kalki3060
      @kalki3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and english!

  • @Neyobe
    @Neyobe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Agreed with the Chinese dialects one! It bothers me so much how just because there is the same writing system, they’re considered the same language. Each province has it’s own dialect and depending on the region, shanghainese, tianjinese, hainanese, taiwanese, cantonese, and hundreds more are completely unintelligible from each other

    • @patrick8358
      @patrick8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Indistinguishable means that you cannot tell them apart.

    • @geoffroi-le-Hook
      @geoffroi-le-Hook 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Chinese programming on a Chicago television station was in Cantonese with Mandarin subtitles or the other way around

  • @sparagnino
    @sparagnino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    A standard Italian was a must have, besides Mussolini. A big help came from the rise of the TV in the 60s.
    Dialects are so different that people can't understand each other if they come from different regions... sometimes even cities in the same region!
    A politician from 1860 (when Italy unified) wrote: "We have made Italy. Now we must make Italians." We are still working on it :D

    • @jacopofolin6400
      @jacopofolin6400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True but we have to no kill the dialects i love them, especialy venetian and sardo

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jacopofolin6400 it's a lost attempt. Languages die all the time, and this is exactly how it happens. Vulgar Latin for example absorbed all the Italic languages in Italy.

    • @julianfejzo4829
      @julianfejzo4829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      As someone who grew up in Italy I really despise the term dialect, some of these varieties are as distant from Italian as Portuguese or Spanish, heck Piedmontese and Emilian have even more in common with Occitan and French than Italian (since they are Gallo-Italic). Italian varieties are no less important than standard and to do this people should stop seeing them as just dialects in the first place.

    • @JoaoL0pes
      @JoaoL0pes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@julianfejzo4829 you probably understand more of Portuguese and Spanish than some of those crazy dialets, like Bergamasco

  • @MisterrNZ
    @MisterrNZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    *"It's a matter of politics"*
    Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian:
    "Well yes, but actually no"

    • @magnajota4341
      @magnajota4341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah stop pretending they are different languages.

    • @DjoleeG
      @DjoleeG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@magnajota4341 well yes they are different languages.. at least 2-3% different !! The rest 97-98% are same xD

    • @dennynikaj
      @dennynikaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Serbian, Bosnian, Montenegrin and Croatian are the same.

    • @MisterrNZ
      @MisterrNZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dennynikaj yeah well try telling some people that...

    • @quakeknight9680
      @quakeknight9680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only diffrence is that Serbs say "bre", Croats have a dialect very very infuenced by Italian.

  • @fabienneselinger3899
    @fabienneselinger3899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Great video as always :) I come from Austria which has a lot of variants of german. Mine can be very hard to understand sometimes since it derived from alemannic and has a lot of abbreviations and unique vocabulary. It's amazing how different language, rituals and culture can be, even within the same country.

    • @klug_d
      @klug_d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A Vorarlberger bist? 😁 Eich versteht ma echt schwa!

    • @fabienneselinger3899
      @fabienneselinger3899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@klug_d Haha genau so isch as :D

  • @GreatKeny
    @GreatKeny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am a Wu-Chinese speaker (Shanghainese) and growing up we were not allowed to speak our native tongue back in schools. They put "please speak Mandarin" stickers everywhere. Nowadays, very few kids can speak fluent Wu-Chinese anymore, at least not in Shanghai.
    It is also very sad that Wu-Chinese does not get much recognition outside China even though there are more native speakers of Wu-Chinese than Cantonese.

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    For a very long time the phrase, "Do the needful." that my co-workers would use drove me crazy. "Needful" isn't a word, I would think. After many years, it suddenly hit me, it is a word. It's not a word in American English, but it is a word in Indian English. India was, of course, under English rule for a long time, and spoke English along with their native language, such as Hindi. The English people from India speak today is no less valid a "variety" than the language people in America speak. I just didn't think about or realize that there would be a variety of English from India.

    • @thisisfine4093
      @thisisfine4093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh hey, I saw you on Soph’s notes! Hello again, Mr Seiden. And that fact is pretty cool.

    • @adityaraman8901
      @adityaraman8901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There are different varities of English spoken in India. An Indian can easily spot the difference.

    • @angelikaskoroszyn8495
      @angelikaskoroszyn8495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      From a non-native speaker perspective "needful" sound like an old english, forgotten word
      It sounds natural in a way. Handful ~> needful. Similar logic

    • @rickseiden1
      @rickseiden1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thisisfine4093 Soph rocks!

    • @rickseiden1
      @rickseiden1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@adityaraman8901 I've been in the room with some folks from India, but not part of the conversation, and they started with what they called Hinglish, alternating between words in English and words in Hindi in the same sentence.

  • @chengyiq3066
    @chengyiq3066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:04 My ears perked up when TedEd mentioned Malaysia!!

  • @octobixer
    @octobixer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I can't believe they talked about multiple dialects without mentioning one of the stranger examples like arabic which has a dialect seen as better than all the other ones but is not spoken as a home language anywhere

    • @tre-moon-dous6122
      @tre-moon-dous6122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Americans

    • @micayahritchie7158
      @micayahritchie7158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's not weird that weird. It used to exist with Latin too

    • @adityaraman8901
      @adityaraman8901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats called a diaglossia if im not wrong. Tamil has 3 infact. (Old, High, and Local)

    • @octobixer
      @octobixer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adityaraman8901 that’s cool I didn’t know that

    • @octobixer
      @octobixer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@micayahritchie7158 The difference between this and Latin is that the language spoken at home is not viewed as vulgar but a modern equivalent given the colonisation and native influences put on the different dialects for example Egypt has french English and Coptic influences on it while Morocco has Berber/amazigh and french with some Spanish as well influence. While the higher dialect comes from the Koran and the Arabic spoken in the Saudi during the time of Muhammad sws with updated vocabulary to accommodate new concepts and inventions. This is why no matter how much outside influence there is Arabic stays as one language rather than splitting off into multiple like what happened to Latin and the Romance languages

  • @christykreme98
    @christykreme98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I wish this video was out when I was still taking Sociolinguistics class. Nevertheless, I hope my professor in that class would see this and use the video to teach his students soon :)

  • @LoiKimWei3
    @LoiKimWei3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm proud that Malaysian English is mention in the video.

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To me, this video is something I need.
    Sometimes the meaning of these two words are what confuses me the most. The concept of their differences is not hard to understand yet still can mix me up when I use either words in a sentence. Language and dialect become axioms that at times can become the same meaning on one hand but become two different things in another.

  • @rohan34
    @rohan34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video that I have seen. It is great to see a properly made authentic video. I'm a linguistic student and this video just speaks my mind.

  • @surajitmondal823
    @surajitmondal823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As an indian I feel lucky that our languages aren’t considered as dialects of some uniform Indian language . Although india have only 22 official language, but other unofficial ones are also considered as languages not dialects. Only those are considered as dialects which are not independent.
    There are also 10+ independent languages which should also be made official.

  • @micow9951
    @micow9951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The end of this video out a smile on my face , i love this particular speaker he has such a beautiful speaking voice

  • @karrotizhealthy
    @karrotizhealthy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Everything I’ve learned from this channel is that whenever you have a weird shower thought then They will answer them all for you

  • @jessical4866
    @jessical4866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mom is from Singapore and speaks Fukian. I have an aunt who speaks Taiwanese. Despite the geographical differences, they can understand each other just fine and it’s incredible.

  • @angrynoodletwentyfive6463
    @angrynoodletwentyfive6463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    African American dialect english is atleast similar enough to other forms of english that you can for the most part perfectly understand what the other is saying in a conversation.

  • @welcometotheinternet574
    @welcometotheinternet574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another thing to keep in mind is that “standard” varieties are used as the way of teaching others the lenguage. For instance, if you wanted to learn Spanish, you would either go for either standard Spain Spanish (like central area) or Mexican Standard (México DF area). This can lead to some confusion and problems once you step outside of this areas. Like, if you came to Andalucía, just like 2-3 hours away from Madrid by train, you would almost always have problems understanding people, just because we are so different from the “Standard” version

  • @라라정-i2v
    @라라정-i2v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whether it's standard or dialects, I think all language have their own charm!

  • @generalfang1537
    @generalfang1537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Tfw Malaysia English was mentioned.
    Forever proud of mine language, it do be making me blush leh

  • @altrag3748
    @altrag3748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I love the visualisation and (I’m not sure what to call it, just a way of showing something through sounds rather than it’s normal medium) they use for the concept of different languages. Like the cool shapes and colours and the funky bass when someone was talking.

  • @sandhyakhonde5237
    @sandhyakhonde5237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What makes TED-ED, TED-ED?

  • @lipikax
    @lipikax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Shout out to the graphic designer and the animation artist🙌🏻

  • @saggitarius6155
    @saggitarius6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the quote :" A language is a dialect with an army and a navy"!
    Still, the language needs to be coded: Literary heritage written in that language, written script (alphabet), dictionaries, etc.
    One can't get a language from the Amazon rain forests, give them an army and a navy and their vernacular becomes the official LANGUAGE.

    • @SergioLongoni
      @SergioLongoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yet there are a lot of dialects with a huge oral and written heritage such as the Italian's dialects that are not official because they don't have an army and a navy.
      And they are still spoken by a lot of people, and often times used in all kinds of informal comunication

    • @internetsnacks150
      @internetsnacks150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SergioLongoni
      Indeed.
      But it's always a good thing to settle a consensus on one of the existing languages, and move on to more practical things.
      In Nigeria, there are hundreds of tribes with their respective languages, pride and self-importance. When the country obtained its independence from the British, choosing one of the local languages was like cracking a match inside a barrel of gunpowder. The wise thing to do was to keep the colonizer's language as the official one and spare the country from a civil war.

  • @kimmycassie
    @kimmycassie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love when the shapes and animation near the end!! The colors used were so pretty

    • @kimmycassie
      @kimmycassie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also as someone who lives in a country with dozens of languages, I wish that other people will consider my mother tongue as a language and not just a dialect.

  • @MonsterIsABlockk
    @MonsterIsABlockk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A language is a language
    *Together we can stop this....*

    • @paleoph6168
      @paleoph6168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please spread the word. Thank you for your attention.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Together we can what?

  • @jafarthewizard5665
    @jafarthewizard5665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The differences between Arabic dialects can make them qualify to be distinguishable languages .. but as soon as you tend to use it for official use in courts or media or schools .. you'll find yourself automatically and gradually in need to use more standard Arabic vocabulary to make it more comprehensive ..
    An algerian dialect can be very hard to understand for a an Iraqi listener .. maybe a bit easier if written .. but at the end if you're an Iraqi and try to read an Algerian newspaper or listen to weather forecast in Algerian radio channel you'll find it easy to catch .. It's just standard Arabic ..

  • @Ascend777
    @Ascend777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I can't believe I need a crowd-funded organization to teach me this. Public school in the US fails so badly.

    • @plancton9919
      @plancton9919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      On this specific topic it seems logical in the sense that school is the most powerful institution permitting a state to establish a variety as an official "language". They tend to teach the "right way" to talk and write, that's why they're so oblivious about linguistic facts

    • @RoyalReyna
      @RoyalReyna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right? Lol. Most Americans think English only has 3 verb tenses. All the schools really care about is teaching us to read and write and follow directions without question. They only care about test scores

    • @sgriggl
      @sgriggl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plancton9919 Yes.

  • @aberrantartist
    @aberrantartist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we talk about how smooth that transition at 1:31 is? Super creative and fluid. Also thank you Ted Ed for another interesting video.

  • @gogakushayemi
    @gogakushayemi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in Japan and years back I asked a Chinese friend (in Japanese) what dialect she spoke and she looked at me like I was stark raving mad. Now, I speak a little Chinese and I realise that when you say "Chinese" in Chinese, it only means Mandarin. No one says "Chinese" and means Taiwanese or Cantonese or Shanghainese. So, in the case of China, the politics that caused all the mutually unintelligible dialects to be referred to as a single language are completely external.

  • @rlolaislijhtw
    @rlolaislijhtw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The idea of gatekeeping is so interesting, I recognise it in myself and others I know right to this very day. For instance, my mother hates it when people say 'youse' instead of 'you', but that term and many like it form a part of an English variety that's evolving away from the 'Queen's English' that we learn in schools.

  • @angelikaskoroszyn8495
    @angelikaskoroszyn8495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's also another aspect worth mentioning - exposition to other languages. Many Polish people living near southern border can easily understand Czech language. Why? Because they often interact with our neighbours. For me it would be difficult. Sooner I will be able to speak freely with Ukrainians than Czechs bc of their growing immigrant population

  • @acey850
    @acey850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound person did a fantastic job bringing the narration and animation to newheights. Bravo 👏👏👏

  • @benghaz7930
    @benghaz7930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel proud bcuz Malaysian English is mentioned

  • @cristybello
    @cristybello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am obsessed with languages! I find the diversity of them so intriguingly fascinating! I should study linguistics :) Great video! TED should become an Open University!

  • @北海老伍
    @北海老伍 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Mr Hilpert for the explanation.
    I've no questions for the variations of English.
    But, Cantonese is a dialect? Probably, because most of the linguists suggest that's a dialect so it considered as dialect.
    Furthermore the policy of China doesn't allow more than one language other than Mandarin, that's mean other than Mandarin it would be automatically DIALECT.

    • @incarnation151
      @incarnation151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mandarin itself is a dialect or a variety of the Chinese language, literally means "the language of officials" in Chinese because it was the language spoken by officials in court during Ming and Qing dynasty, sometimes Mandarin can simply be referred to as "northern speech". The official language in China is called "common speech" which is the standardized Mandarin which almost no one in China actually speaks, besides news anchors, everyone speaks with some sort of accents. It is important to know that Mandarin has a lot of varieties itself and shouldn't be confused with standardized Mandarin.

  • @madisonlibby7424
    @madisonlibby7424 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. This video was masterfully done. The info, visuals, and especially the music were superb!

  • @belle_pomme
    @belle_pomme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fun fact : Standard Malay and Indonesian are actually standardized forms of the same dialect (Johor-Riau Malay)

    • @arsyapermana1
      @arsyapermana1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, the Indonesian one are influenced more by javanese language and sanskrit, while Malaysian malay are influenced more by arabic

    • @belle_pomme
      @belle_pomme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@arsyapermana1 yup, Indonesian has more language sources to borrow from since they always adapt the use of words from regional languages like Javanese, Sundanese, etc

    • @geoffroi-le-Hook
      @geoffroi-le-Hook 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Melayu

  • @clockbeat
    @clockbeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In math class literally 3 hours ago during a short pause we briefly talked about languages/dialects that we spoke, I get home and this vid uploaded 5 hours ago gets recommended. nice

  • @akhandpathi7461
    @akhandpathi7461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:17 reminded me of Garnt saying "Cultural Cross-Pollination" 😂

  • @LastPersephone
    @LastPersephone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ted ed animation is always so pleasing…❤️

  • @margustoo
    @margustoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An interesting example is in Estonia. There is a group of dialects/languages or a language called Southern Estonian. It can be considered ether part of Estonian, a separate language or a language/dialect group made out of Võro, Tarto and Mulgi languages/dialects. There is also Seto language or dialect that some consider it to be part of Võro and some consider it to be a separate language/dialect. It's a mess. Nowadays most commonly all four (Tarto, Mulgi, Võro and Seto) are considered to be separate languages..

    • @pocarski
      @pocarski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not Estonian, but have been living in Tartu for the past couple years. I can feel the difference between the local language and standard Estonian, but it's mostly minor things like vowels getting rounded towards "o". The announcer voice in public transport has a strong local accent, and pronounces "õ" like "o", and words like "kaks" sound more like "koks". So far I've been able to get by with my less-than-stellar knowledge of the standard language, so I don't see any real reason to separate the varieties if they're all mutually intelligible.

    • @margustoo
      @margustoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pocarski Language/dialect of Tarto doesn't have many speakers left. It's basically dead already. What you heard were remnants of that.. at best a local accent. Properly spoken Southern Estonian (especially Võro and Seto) is very different from Estonian language. They have vastly different vocabulary (although many native Estonians know most of those words as synonyms), different language rules (for example they have vowel harmony like they have in Finnish but not in Estonian itself) and even a different alphabet (it is also based on Latin alphabet, but it has some features that main Estonian alphabet doesn't have.. like for example q being a glottal stop or y used as a vowel that is in between i and õ)

  • @mavis9262
    @mavis9262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SUPERB Video! I happened to wonder about this all the time, especially in a country with thousands of varieties and history of colonialism from different origins (Philippines); about what makes a form of communication be considered as a language.

  • @ikkedansk
    @ikkedansk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    no, us scandinavians has great difficulties understanding each other, as only ca 40% of our words are sorta similar, so we often speak english to each other

    • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
      @readisgooddewaterkant7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hur menar du?

    • @ikkedansk
      @ikkedansk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@readisgooddewaterkant7890 hvad mener du?!?!

    • @ikkedansk
      @ikkedansk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@readisgooddewaterkant7890 tror det er de færreste danskere der ved hvad en IGELKOTT er for noget

    • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
      @readisgooddewaterkant7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ikkedansk jag håller med. Danskarna kan icke prata :)

  • @francytjd3996
    @francytjd3996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Italy a huge factor that helped speed up language standardization was the introduction to television
    And there are so many dialects and accents and the difference between north and south is still incredibly obvious, it’s also pretty much impossible to not know a dialect or at least not come across one lol

  • @abnoyngatawo
    @abnoyngatawo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the Philippines, there is always a state of confusion in categorizing "languages" and "dialects" and people had the habit of putting the supposedly "regional languages" as merely "dialects" only of "Tagalog", which is the language spoken by a majority of people around 20-40 million out of >100 million mainly on just one part of the country and is unintelligible with the other regional languages. I guess that is what happens when a country is under a unitary system of government and all power is centralized in the capital Manila, the center of the Tagalog ethnoliguistic group, which is just among the hundreds (around 180? some are dying already) of ethnolinguistic groups in the country.
    The video talks about standardization and in the Philippines' case, it is necessary to unify the islands which gave rise to the birth of "Filipino" which is standardized Tagalog that served as the official language alongside English. Any average Filipino nowadays can speak 3-4 languages with the inclusion of Tagalog/Filipino and English and their vernacular tongue (I can speak 5 myself).

  • @thehyperscientist1961
    @thehyperscientist1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Coming from a country with tens of recognised ethnic groups, and a long history of multiple colonisations, it's true to say that the boundaries of languages are only shown by national borders. In truth, language is continuous, and truly is beautiful indeed. Thank you, Ted-Ed

    • @kumud9827
      @kumud9827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      let me guess... the Philippines?

    • @thehyperscientist1961
      @thehyperscientist1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kumud9827 Nope, sorry. But it is in the same region

  • @Mrnoddingdonkey
    @Mrnoddingdonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You didn’t really answer the titles question

  • @redcrown5070
    @redcrown5070 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for covering our language Ted ED. I also add that the first writers of italian languages were Boccaccio and Petrarch, with the first used as an example for formal communication and the latter for poetry

  • @jolene648
    @jolene648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    When your Malaysian English is known as Manglish, is it short for Malaysian-English? No, it’s actually Mangled-English T-T

    • @jolene648
      @jolene648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Murph the Martian Mustelid our grammar be out here living on a different plane of reality lol

    • @nallyaaaaaa
      @nallyaaaaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you do be speaking facts here lol

    • @annoyedkaren6726
      @annoyedkaren6726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sorry do you speak English or truth

  • @just_in_key
    @just_in_key 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The animation is so ASTONISHING

  • @tree.6653
    @tree.6653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Imagine having that many shower thoughts

  • @RafaelCardoso299
    @RafaelCardoso299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always learn a lot with your videos ! You guys rock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Arabic is more than one language also not only one

  • @VyNguyen-ud5do
    @VyNguyen-ud5do ปีที่แล้ว

    The animator and the narrator working for Ted are G.O.A.T. Besides, watching this video reminded me of the time when I took an extra course in Math, the teacher with Vietnam North Central voice made me confounded all the time (I was crouching and questioning the intelligibility of the lecture). That was an interesting experience, though. I love the linguistic continuum and the confusing nature of language that has contributed to the rich tapestry of mankind.

  • @denifnaf5874
    @denifnaf5874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fun fact: lenin spoke english in an irish accent

  • @badidea932
    @badidea932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the animation makes these videos even better

  • @Laittth
    @Laittth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was such a missed opportunity not using Arabic as an example

    • @SuperibyP
      @SuperibyP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!

    • @dio8628
      @dio8628 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dialect continuum

  • @francescadicioccio8954
    @francescadicioccio8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Italy we have a standard language, regional dialects and local dialects. Which means +2000 dialects. Plus, the Italian gestures, a form of non-verbal communication that we use to convey a specific message. So much complicated 😅

  • @MicroMidas
    @MicroMidas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is to say, we Norwegians can understand, and to some degree talk in Swedish and Danish. But i think you would be hard pressed to find the vice versa. I have a theory that revolves around TV, kids TV especially. There are, or atleast was quite a bit of Swedish movies and shows (Emil, Pippi Longstocking ect.) on TV growing up, all un-dubbed. I personally believe I have that alone to thank for my strong understanding of Swedish. Danish is VERY similar to Norwegian when written, but speaking it? It's sooo hard, it's almost like a strange, warped dialect of Norwegian, only spoken from the throat instead!:p Way harder than Swedish, both understanding and talking, but not written. Weird.

    • @niubi3923
      @niubi3923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basically the situation with Mandarin and Cantonese, and I don't think that these are particular rare cases among the world's languages

  • @wiandryadiwasistio2062
    @wiandryadiwasistio2062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this comes into mind when i learnt about japanese; the japanese we learn is based on 'tokyo dialect' and while it seems it was spoken around the country, turns out there are lots of dialects there, such as kansai, hokkaido, and less-known ibaraki. this may also similar to british english, such as liverpool and london dialect (or manchester?) even my mother tongue, indonesian, has lots of dialects, such as ambonese, sundanese, and malay.
    cmiiw...

  • @Abell_lledA
    @Abell_lledA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos.🎈

  • @charmemez
    @charmemez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was so surprised to hear Malaysian English being mentioned as a variety that I smiled suddenly 😂 locally, we call it Manglish. It sounds very similar to our neighbour's Singlish. Thanks for the random surprise, Ted-Ed!

  • @congiesuzuki2589
    @congiesuzuki2589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A language is something that you can understand, its something where you can communicate back to one and another. Most languages were created by politics and society so basically most languages are made up by society. I speak this language called Angeleme. I created it by myself it helps me to understand myself alot better, I've been teaching my boyfriend my language so that he can speak it back to me so that me and him can have full on conversations.

    • @theramendutchman
      @theramendutchman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay that's actually wonderful and making me smile

  • @laranpadduman2780
    @laranpadduman2780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About a decade ago, my English Professor said that British English and U.S. American English are "mere dialects" of the English Language, just like our Philippine English. Then she added, "but the U.S. American and English peoples would never accept their Englishes to be 'mere dialects.'"

  • @hoilinglok8443
    @hoilinglok8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THANK YOU. CANTONESE IS A LANGUAGE.

  • @lolake7594
    @lolake7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is irrelevant, but I always love the different animation styles in these videos

  • @_fedmar_
    @_fedmar_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ironically, Florentine dialect in modern times is so terrible to hear that it's infuriating.

  • @angelaliu3237
    @angelaliu3237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video's video and sound design! It gives off such a lovely mood :))

  • @Storm0Castle
    @Storm0Castle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just as how the malay language is now divided into bahasa malaysia and bahasa indonesia

  • @mohdazan4948
    @mohdazan4948 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arabic is probably the extreme version of this
    I want to go to my room in MSA vs Lebanese
    Modern Standard Arabic : أريد ان اذهب الى الغرفتي
    Lebanese Dialect : بدي روح عأوضتي

  • @StrangeDad
    @StrangeDad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Swedes, Norwegians and Danes:
    Swede: Hello! How are you?
    Norwegian: I'm fine! Lovely day we're having!
    Dane: Kamulåså!
    Swede and Norwegian: ...

  • @pheonix1461
    @pheonix1461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I skipped online school today since I wasn't interested in the topics, and my teachers called me lazy and irresponsible, but what they don't know is that I binge watch TED Ed videos because I tend to have fun, learn and remember more of what they discuss than boring lectures 🙄

    • @ИванОрел-й4ф
      @ИванОрел-й4ф 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's lazy and irresponsible? And why did the teachers call them?

    • @pheonix1461
      @pheonix1461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ИванОрел-й4ф oh sorry I meant me not my, I already changed it

  • @rrsharizam
    @rrsharizam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Indonesian language is widely considered as a form of Malay dialect but later recognised as a language because the Indonesian government insist so. The dividing line between language and dialect is politics.

    • @bonnieculla6210
      @bonnieculla6210 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      not another malay obsessed over indonesia lololol. you must be also thinking that malay language come from malaysia too trolololololol 🤡

    • @rrsharizam
      @rrsharizam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bonnieculla6210 Is it something you disagree with or is it a truth you don't wanna hear?

  • @kemilade5163
    @kemilade5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When he mentioned Nigerian English🥺
    I always wondered why we have to write TOEFL or IELTS when we speak English. And we even study it throughout secondary school and write it in our external exams (leaving school certificate level). The worst is that, even after a Bachelor’s degree, we are still required to write it if we are furthering our studies in anglophone abroad🙄🙄

  • @StellaCrowley
    @StellaCrowley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video - small correction though, the Swiss German language consists of many dialects, but is not considered a dialect of German.

    • @danzoom
      @danzoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes, Swiss *German* is not a dialect of *German*

    • @Ten_Tacles
      @Ten_Tacles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That really depends on who you ask. Plenty consider it a regional dialect of german.

    • @StellaCrowley
      @StellaCrowley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danzoom Would you prefer I say "Mundart" is not a dialect of "Deutsch"?

    • @StellaCrowley
      @StellaCrowley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ten_Tacles I am talking about linguistic definitions. Obviously I don't mean "nobody would ever call Swiss German a dialect" and I'm sure there are linguists who disagree with Swiss German being a language, but the idea that Swiss German is more than a dialect is the most prevalent.

    • @marmotarchivist
      @marmotarchivist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What he actually said in the video, was that the distinct forms of speech in Bremen and Interlaken are regional dialects of the German language. Which is correct. German as a language consists of many regional and local dialects, two of which are the dialects spoken in Bremen and Interlaken.
      “Swiss German” is neither a language nor a dialect, but an umbrella term commonly used to refer to all the dialects spoken in the German-speaking part of Switzerland. You cannot learn or speak “Swiss German” as it is merely a group of dialects, but you can do so with any one dialect of that group.
      I really appreciated that they used this as an example. Switzerland is a tiny country, yet the local Alemannic dialects are so diverse that there sometimes are even comprehension problems between Swiss speakers from different regions. But speakers of Alemannic dialects from Basel and the southern most regions of Germany will have an easy time understanding each other. The dialect of Bremen from the northern most part of Germany is on the other end of the German dialect continuum and really different from Swiss dialects. Therefore it was a well-chosen example.