Yup, don't hate on the player, hate on the game. The number of times McMorris has been (unjustly) judged higher than Parrot or Sandbech is infuriating. Having an established name can really boost your winning chances (unfortunately) (I'm half-Swedish btw and love both Henrik and Jesper. But Jesper deserved gold bigtime)
Jesper had so much variety and was just sending it off the knuckle His tricks were so so good I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw Jesper without a gold Also Henrik wouldn’t even have been my 2nd pick the energy and vibe from Fabian was so sweet
Yeah I mean I think henrik kinda got robbed at aspen last year and Norway but I’m bias towards henrik like you but I agree I think jesper just impressed more but I judges prolly stoned
@@RLWilsSkiCo jesper did that same trick before on knuckle huck i dont think you should be able to just repeat tricks in a event mainly about creativity
I know. I am a huge fan of jesper, and it's annoying to see Jesper throw down some awesome tricks, and then have the guy with ok-looking tricks win. Hopefully Jesper will come out on top one of these years.
Clearly the judges put a lot of emphasis on style and playfulness rather than amplitude and difficulty, ‘cos Jesper’s tricks were way bigger and harder.
yeah which i find totally weird, since in big air and slope they only judge how big the tricks are and how many spins they do and don't look at the style at all
@@randymarsh7252 Marcus kleveland is one of the reasons this event started for “hucking” himself off the knuckle. I get what your saying, but just don’t think that’s how it should be
@@Freeskjfull It makes sense to me and doesn’t seem weird. It makes the competitions more diverse. Why would they introduce a newer competition and judge it the same as the other competitions?
I've already thought about whether I should make a jesper, harlaut, bösch comparison, but then decided only for jesper and harlaut. And I also think that henrik himself was a little surprised
but knucklehuck is mainly about Style. it gives riders the opportunity to show butters, nosetaps,... And jesper did crazy moves but he didnt use the knuckle and a dug backy isnt very steezy. I think A hall did well with his tail tap 360 out. He was way better than Henrik but well...
Love Henrik but how did he win that? Nothing was original from him. Jesper is doing things that no one else is. I thought that was the point of the knuckle huck? Not just butters and spins.
Henrik is always the judge favourite because he has "style". i don't think it's style, just acting mellow, hands down, big pants, big loose jacket, nothing original imo.
@@shimba90 yeah we also know they look for consistency in these sorta jam no score events so I think Henrik not falling like Jesper did prolly affected his score. And I have a hunch that using the jump like Ahall did made those runs not count.
@@alexk1682 hes joking but serious at the same time. The judges are a joke this year tho. Atleast 4 different events from Wendys had weird outcomes. Almost everyone could agree about the judges really killing/discouraging riders to do new tricks since the people with the most boring but clean stuff all won
How did Henrik win this year but not last year. Do you all remember his really long and controlled nosepress.Jesper should have won this year and henrik last year...
henrick a dope and all but it seemed all he did was nose butter 360s or 540s, and jesper was throwing down some of the craziest tricks to flat i’ve ever seen.
It's obvious who was much much better and more creative that day. I would appreciate if Henrik refused the Gold medal during the inaugurations....Thanks for video.
I don't get it - Harlaut seemed to do the same kind of trick every single run while Tjäder threw big and original stuff. Why did tje judges gave Harlaut the win wtf ?!
To provide some nuance to the comments. Whilst I agree Tjäders tricks are bigger, Henrik is actually using the knuckle to amplify his tricks and style. I like this ruling because it signals that riders need to play to the event rather than treat it like big air and "spin to win" which is what won Colby this event last year.
I agree but the problem i have is that the only changes Henrik is making between runs are either 180 degree increments or the exact same trick but switch
Jesper used the knuckle in every trick except the dub underflip. The switch back full was super creative and he used the knuckle, he tapped his tips on the knuckle on the dub back which was crazy, and the 3 to nb 10 was also using the knuckle and was a more traditional knuckle trick but harder than anything that Harlaut did. If they don't want skiers to treat it like a big air, they shouldn't but that little lip on the knuckle or change the shape or just make clearer rules beforehand.
Good points, although I think the "nose tap" in the dbl flip was by accident than design (still sick). I think Henry's butter tricks were strongest in the field but I agree that judges should make it clear what they will judge for and then riders can decide whether they just want to have fun or if they want to play to win. The reason the medals become so random is because the events are judged differently each year.
My issue is that Henrik did a variant of the same trick all night. Jesper brought something a bit different with every lap. I think the judges thought he was trying to spin to win a style comp, yet none of those tricks would really be seen in slopestyle or big air. The level of difficulty to do those butters imo is about the same as it takes to do alot of what jesper did its just a different style and the judges obviously perfered henriks over jespers. On the brightside if this year follows the same pattern as the last 2 years Jesper will win and we will all think someone else got robbed.(even though most of us like everyone out there)
I think the Judges gave it to him to make up for that stupid score they gave him in the big air. Henrik looks like he felt that way as well because he looked over at Jesper, congratulated him and then said he thought a lot of other people skied better than him in the event.
I'm not into snowboarding and skiing but I've watched this and previous ones. In my opinion the only cool looking stuff this year was Hall's tailtap-360 and all of Jesper's stuff.
Even if you just listened to this comp you can tell from Toms excitement (and confusion in his voice when henrik won) that Jesper should’ve won. They handed the medal to henrik Tom went silent and then said “really cool” 😲
I feel like Henrik Harlaut knew it from the moment he got the gold medal, that he won undeservedly. He awkwardly celebrated (for me it looked like he forced his hype, especially when you compare his celebratings from last year) and even hugged Jesper at the end, showing his compassion.
I don’t know anything about this sport but I’ve seen this competition a few times, and the only thing that makes sense for the judges to give it to Henrik is this : they don’t want knuckle huck to become a smaller version of the big air competition. They don’t want athletes to throw down these monster tricks because ‘’it’s not the spirit of the competition’’. Not saying it’s right, obviously. I was actually shocked to see Jesper not getting the medal. But you have to say that Henrik’s tricks were more oriented towards the classic ‘’knuckle huck spirit’’, and I think that’s why the judges rewarded him. Nose butters, style rotation, etc. are what made this competition what it is today, and the judgs obviously want to keep it that way. Wouldn’t be surprised if they decide to ban double flips. Just like frontflips and backflips were banned from figure skating.
Being a Henrik fan since i can remember, but this was robbery... Jesper did some sick stuff while Henrik went on doing basically the same tricks. IMO Henrik should've got the gold last year and Jesper this year...
How on earth Jasper did not win this? Since when Jasper does not have a style? - Plus his tricks are so sick! Come on give him that gold medal! Judges you made a terrible mistake here, big time!
Iam with the judges , yeahr of course tjäder did crazy unique tricks but Harlaut sent it sooo damn smooth n clean i would give style a point more than the Type or Kind of trick, soo buttering a long way or a scatchy nice butter could Look sweeter than a back flip or f.flip🎉 big up they both should get Gold. Keep Up! R¡de on ❤
I agree Jesper should have wo, but do not forget knuckle huck isnt just about throwing the biggest tricks and the most flips its about style and trick selection. So while jesper definiitely won on technicality of tricks I feel henrik kinda gave the judges more of what they wanted from this event
I'd probably say jesper deserved the win, but I think it's interesting that a lot of the usual comments on these comps are people complaining that judges don't care about style and its all about spinning to win. In this case style was king, but now people are upset about it this way too. Idk what to do with this information, just kinda putting it out there
Henrik you keep it butter man don't flip and spin looking like a Olympic diver for the people who can't even walk straight they like flips you keep it style and when you do flip and spin it's still style love you don't do a trick to compo till it it's smooth keep doing you man shit is real and snowboarders and skiers lovin' it
Even if u try to justify henry's gold as "he was going for stylish stuff" the butters weren't suuuuuper long or flexed as for example last year's nb frontflip. Simply don't understand the judgment, I'm sad for Jesper
What Henrik did, I did at age 13. What Jesper did, is what I dream about doing. To be honest, Jesper got hasseled the way I talked myself into 2nd place at Redbull Play streets quite a time ago.
I remember watching Shaun White beat Louis Vito and thought to myself...Vito was 10 times more talented, but Burton was the sponsor of the event and White. You get what you get
Henrik basically did the same thing over and over, spinning the same rotation (counter-clockwise) for every single time he went, just changing to switch and adding another 180. Also it looks like he is stomping both feet down inbetween the spins so he's basically "resetting" instead of landing in a butter. Props to both guys but I think Jesper def should have won since he had WAY more creativity on every single trick and way harder and way more creative. No hate towards Henrik just the judges.
I think that x games was compensating for robbing him on his switch dub bio 18 which got a 38 and the run before was a switch dub bio 16 got a 42. I don’t think he would’ve beaten Andri cuz he was berserk but he could gotten silver or bronze
Henrik was great, but actually he did more or less always the same always every year! Jesper just made amazing new and difficult tricks! Sorry Style machine, but Jasper was way better
Jesper was robbed but i don’t think henrik should be getting any hate, just the judges
i guess the judges felt bad for henrik after the big air
Yup, don't hate on the player, hate on the game. The number of times McMorris has been (unjustly) judged higher than Parrot or Sandbech is infuriating. Having an established name can really boost your winning chances (unfortunately)
(I'm half-Swedish btw and love both Henrik and Jesper. But Jesper deserved gold bigtime)
@@charlesthorndike2702 agreed
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Me too
Henrik is awesome but Jesper totally got robbed. The tricks aren't even comparable! I felt like Henrik did the same thing every time.
Jesper had so much variety and was just sending it off the knuckle
His tricks were so so good
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw Jesper without a gold
Also Henrik wouldn’t even have been my 2nd pick the energy and vibe from Fabian was so sweet
Same
totally agree - wtf
Tru
Jesper its a beast
switch double backflip...daylight robbery. I say that being a major fan of Henrik.
haha true
Yeah I mean I think henrik kinda got robbed at aspen last year and Norway but I’m bias towards henrik like you but I agree I think jesper just impressed more but I judges prolly stoned
@@RLWilsSkiCo jesper did that same trick before on knuckle huck i dont think you should be able to just repeat tricks in a event mainly about creativity
Hugo Hellspong exactly
They had to make up for giving Henrik that 38 for the dub bio in big air.
Just another year of Jesper getting robbed by x games
poor jesper, i feel so bad for him
I know. I am a huge fan of jesper, and it's annoying to see Jesper throw down some awesome tricks, and then have the guy with ok-looking tricks win. Hopefully Jesper will come out on top one of these years.
Thank god you guys aren't judges.
@@mymomsbasement69 shut up. It’s facts that Jesper has gotten robbed at the x games
Jesper was way better
Jesper: massive double off a knuckle
Henrik: 360 to a 360
Thank god you guys aren't judges.
@@mymomsbasement69 bro jesper was clearly the winner
Clearly the judges put a lot of emphasis on style and playfulness rather than amplitude and difficulty, ‘cos Jesper’s tricks were way bigger and harder.
yeah which i find totally weird, since in big air and slope they only judge how big the tricks are and how many spins they do and don't look at the style at all
Henrik didn’t even have much style, just because he puts a butter into his trick doesn’t mean it’s steezy
@@randymarsh7252 ok you got a point there, wacko
@@randymarsh7252 Marcus kleveland is one of the reasons this event started for “hucking” himself off the knuckle. I get what your saying, but just don’t think that’s how it should be
@@Freeskjfull It makes sense to me and doesn’t seem weird. It makes the competitions more diverse. Why would they introduce a newer competition and judge it the same as the other competitions?
Jesper definitely deserved the win, you could maybe make a case for Fabian Bosch but Henrik getting the win was a surprise imo
I've already thought about whether I should make a jesper, harlaut, bösch comparison, but then decided only for jesper and harlaut.
And I also think that henrik himself was a little surprised
but knucklehuck is mainly about Style. it gives riders the opportunity to show butters, nosetaps,... And jesper did crazy moves but he didnt use the knuckle and a dug backy isnt very steezy. I think A hall did well with his tail tap 360 out. He was way better than Henrik but well...
@@dynamo4436 I get the part about using the knuckle, but imo henrik wasn’t very steezy, they were mostly just fairly simple tricks executed well
@@michaelpugh2617 i know that henrik dindt deserve the win but i can understand that jesper didnt win
Harlout been stolen so many wins anyway. Knucklehuck is not about steez- its mostly spin to win. However this event was abit more steez then usually
Love Henrik but how did he win that? Nothing was original from him. Jesper is doing things that no one else is. I thought that was the point of the knuckle huck? Not just butters and spins.
Henrik is always the judge favourite because he has "style". i don't think it's style, just acting mellow, hands down, big pants, big loose jacket, nothing original imo.
@@shimba90 yeah we also know they look for consistency in these sorta jam no score events so I think Henrik not falling like Jesper did prolly affected his score. And I have a hunch that using the jump like Ahall did made those runs not count.
@@shimba90 I bet his friend tanner hall is a judge lol
Judges were trying to make up for Henrik's weird scores in Big Air
Ok so that completely throws the legitimacy of Xgames out the window if that’s true. You rig judging in one event because you fucked up on another?
@@alexk1682 hes joking but serious at the same time. The judges are a joke this year tho. Atleast 4 different events from Wendys had weird outcomes. Almost everyone could agree about the judges really killing/discouraging riders to do new tricks since the people with the most boring but clean stuff all won
Idk why last year harlaut didn’t win and this year he win
Agreed
for sure
Totally what I was thinking! But if they stick to this concept, Jesper will win next year, even if someone esle is better then ;)
@@Eryktion 😂😂😂💀
My thoughts exactly
How did Henrik win this year but not last year. Do you all remember his really long and controlled nosepress.Jesper should have won this year and henrik last year...
griselda flip!!
henrick a dope and all but it seemed all he did was nose butter 360s or 540s, and jesper was throwing down some of the craziest tricks to flat i’ve ever seen.
Jesper was doing insane tricks. Not sure what what going on with the scoring
Thank god you guys aren't judges.
Jasper does not land the first one. Also he put his hand down in some landing. Judge pay style and cleaness wile Jesper go big but dirty
@@mymomsbasement69 you know, this is skiing you are watching
It's obvious who was much much better and more creative that day. I would appreciate if Henrik refused the Gold medal during the inaugurations....Thanks for video.
I mean that is a fair point but if you were in xgames and received a gold medal I think you would just take it and go
Henrick got robbed last year, but this year for me it was Jesper!
Consistently terrible judging. Dusty didn't deserve the knuckle huck either in snowboarding, I thought Marcus went off.
Everyone loves Henriks style, but c'mon now! What Jesper did was mad sick!!!
Tjäder the goat. Homie got robbed❌🧢
Jesper always gets robbed! He is the most innovative skiier on snow for at least the past couple of years.
I don't get it - Harlaut seemed to do the same kind of trick every single run while Tjäder threw big and original stuff. Why did tje judges gave Harlaut the win wtf ?!
You just have to listen to the excitement of the commentators and you have your answer. Jesper got the most cheers and praise by far.
Seems like judges have a new system in place where the coolest tricks doesn’t win but the cleanest. Way to ruin a sport
Actually that would be nicest thing that could happen for skiing but in this case dollo should’ve not taken the W....
It’s supposed to be the most progressive stylish tricks not most technical
@@speldo3598 lol Anders doesn’t get it and probably doesn’t ski
Jesper was definitely the better one of the two, amazing tricks
Jespers switch dub back is actually insane wtf
Jesper def shoulda won
yuppppp
Jaspers trick is 10 years ahead. Judge don’t have in scoring book😁
Jesper got robbed
Xgames is just making up for robing henrik last year
@Jack Marston or fabian will
Jasper all the way for the flow,style,and speed that guy is sick....he should be the winner 🏆
Fabian and Jesper was the two i thought was going to win
Jesper won that comp no doubt.
I mean, Jesper is on another lvl in this compt this time. How the hell did he not win?
Jesper wins on difficulty, variety and amplitude. They gave Henrik the win to make up for robbing him last year.
I don't wanna argue with anyone, Jesper shoulda won it that is it.
The guy innovating and elevating the sport looses to a dude thats just spreading the same butter all night long...
Jesper killed that, wtf x games
Even Harlaut looks surprised to win the event
To provide some nuance to the comments. Whilst I agree Tjäders tricks are bigger, Henrik is actually using the knuckle to amplify his tricks and style. I like this ruling because it signals that riders need to play to the event rather than treat it like big air and "spin to win" which is what won Colby this event last year.
I agree but the problem i have is that the only changes Henrik is making between runs are either 180 degree increments or the exact same trick but switch
Jesper used the knuckle in every trick except the dub underflip. The switch back full was super creative and he used the knuckle, he tapped his tips on the knuckle on the dub back which was crazy, and the 3 to nb 10 was also using the knuckle and was a more traditional knuckle trick but harder than anything that Harlaut did. If they don't want skiers to treat it like a big air, they shouldn't but that little lip on the knuckle or change the shape or just make clearer rules beforehand.
Good points, although I think the "nose tap" in the dbl flip was by accident than design (still sick). I think Henry's butter tricks were strongest in the field but I agree that judges should make it clear what they will judge for and then riders can decide whether they just want to have fun or if they want to play to win. The reason the medals become so random is because the events are judged differently each year.
@@jakob2fredrik yeah, jesper said on his instagram that the double back nose tap was a 'Happy Accident' but it looked very nice though
Henrik should have won last year that was such bullshit that he didn’t win. So much more creative and tech that year
What? Please...? Was a little shock for me to see Henrik (great person) getting gold. I mean Tjäder was on his own level!
Huge step down in creativity, execution style from harlaut from last year to this, no way did he deserve to win
Wendy's Knuckle Huck to Flat.
Tom Wallisch is the perfect analyst to have. One of the greats.
He should be judging
Why is it 2 years in a row we get a switch double backflip and the first camera angle is looking at nothing?
Probably the cameraman was so shocked he forgot to film
because there is less money in our sport and the xgames now has college level production
Jesper is the best skier in the world!!!!!
My issue is that Henrik did a variant of the same trick all night. Jesper brought something a bit different with every lap. I think the judges thought he was trying to spin to win a style comp, yet none of those tricks would really be seen in slopestyle or big air. The level of difficulty to do those butters imo is about the same as it takes to do alot of what jesper did its just a different style and the judges obviously perfered henriks over jespers. On the brightside if this year follows the same pattern as the last 2 years Jesper will win and we will all think someone else got robbed.(even though most of us like everyone out there)
I cannot believe they robbed Jesper like that. That double backflip tap was insane
I think the Judges gave it to him to make up for that stupid score they gave him in the big air. Henrik looks like he felt that way as well because he looked over at Jesper, congratulated him and then said he thought a lot of other people skied better than him in the event.
I'm not into snowboarding and skiing but I've watched this and previous ones. In my opinion the only cool looking stuff this year was Hall's tailtap-360 and all of Jesper's stuff.
Just listen to the commentators excitement on Jespers vs Henrik. Big differense.
You could tell they were surprised when henrik took the gold
That un excited w o a h
even henrik himself seems surprised that he won
x game with their invitation: "Jesper can we please rob you again this year, PLEASE !!!"
To be honest I love Henrik but Jesper did better if you ask me and it felt like he got the gold as an exuse for the bad judges in Big Air
Even if you just listened to this comp you can tell from Toms excitement (and confusion in his voice when henrik won) that Jesper should’ve won.
They handed the medal to henrik Tom went silent and then said “really cool” 😲
Did the judges not watch what I've just watch, Henrik is great but Jesper my goodness!
I feel like Henrik Harlaut knew it from the moment he got the gold medal, that he won undeservedly. He awkwardly celebrated (for me it looked like he forced his hype, especially when you compare his celebratings from last year) and even hugged Jesper at the end, showing his compassion.
I don’t know anything about this sport but I’ve seen this competition a few times, and the only thing that makes sense for the judges to give it to Henrik is this : they don’t want knuckle huck to become a smaller version of the big air competition. They don’t want athletes to throw down these monster tricks because ‘’it’s not the spirit of the competition’’. Not saying it’s right, obviously. I was actually shocked to see Jesper not getting the medal. But you have to say that Henrik’s tricks were more oriented towards the classic ‘’knuckle huck spirit’’, and I think that’s why the judges rewarded him. Nose butters, style rotation, etc. are what made this competition what it is today, and the judgs obviously want to keep it that way. Wouldn’t be surprised if they decide to ban double flips. Just like frontflips and backflips were banned from figure skating.
they've seen jesper do a switch double backflip a million times while atleast henrick brought something new to the table
😂 the intro music is perfect
Being a Henrik fan since i can remember, but this was robbery... Jesper did some sick stuff while Henrik went on doing basically the same tricks. IMO Henrik should've got the gold last year and Jesper this year...
Hendrik did very well but for me it looks a little bit like he is doing the same trick all the time
How on earth Jasper did not win this? Since when Jasper does not have a style? - Plus his tricks are so sick! Come on give him that gold medal!
Judges you made a terrible mistake here, big time!
Iam with the judges , yeahr of course tjäder did crazy unique tricks but Harlaut sent it sooo damn smooth n clean i would give style a point more than the Type or Kind of trick, soo buttering a long way or a scatchy nice butter could Look sweeter than a back flip or f.flip🎉 big up they both should get Gold. Keep Up! R¡de on ❤
I agree Jesper should have wo, but do not forget knuckle huck isnt just about throwing the biggest tricks and the most flips its about style and trick selection. So while jesper definiitely won on technicality of tricks I feel henrik kinda gave the judges more of what they wanted from this event
Jesper was completely robbed
I'd probably say jesper deserved the win, but I think it's interesting that a lot of the usual comments on these comps are people complaining that judges don't care about style and its all about spinning to win. In this case style was king, but now people are upset about it this way too. Idk what to do with this information, just kinda putting it out there
The judges completely robbed Jesper he deserves to win
Henrik you keep it butter man don't flip and spin looking like a Olympic diver for the people who can't even walk straight they like flips you keep it style and when you do flip and spin it's still style love you don't do a trick to compo till it it's smooth keep doing you man shit is real and snowboarders and skiers lovin' it
Even if u try to justify henry's gold as "he was going for stylish stuff" the butters weren't suuuuuper long or flexed as for example last year's nb frontflip. Simply don't understand the judgment, I'm sad for Jesper
if you guys don't stop complaining they'll let Jesper Tjader win with a 360 next year.
Jesper had to kiss the knuckle this year to finally let the judges know he could do it all
What Henrik did, I did at age 13. What Jesper did, is what I dream about doing. To be honest, Jesper got hasseled the way I talked myself into 2nd place at Redbull Play streets quite a time ago.
3:10 was so fucking clean
i mean henrik did some super steezy tricks, but jesper was the winner for sure
IM a Henrik and Tjader fan, but imo Tjader won that..no hate to Henrik at all, both were great
I thought that the other guy was way better. Went bigger snd wsy more creative. Thought the winner was a bit boring to watch
I remember watching Shaun White beat Louis Vito and thought to myself...Vito was 10 times more talented, but Burton was the sponsor of the event and White. You get what you get
Henrik basically did the same thing over and over, spinning the same rotation (counter-clockwise) for every single time he went, just changing to switch and adding another 180. Also it looks like he is stomping both feet down inbetween the spins so he's basically "resetting" instead of landing in a butter. Props to both guys but I think Jesper def should have won since he had WAY more creativity on every single trick and way harder and way more creative. No hate towards Henrik just the judges.
I think Jesper he just had so much style but Henrik was much more smooth and clean
I want XGames to highlight the trick that won gold
Three of Henrik's tricks were the exact same.
Jesper is the best
Jesper did the best tricks on the knuckle.
But Henrik and Jesper were god.
🙂
Was sure Jesper was gonna take home the gold.. But wont complain over Henke taking it. See it like Creative vs Style!
I’m a huge fan of Jesper tjader
Jesper should win!
I think that x games was compensating for robbing him on his switch dub bio 18 which got a 38 and the run before was a switch dub bio 16 got a 42. I don’t think he would’ve beaten Andri cuz he was berserk but he could gotten silver or bronze
Henrick is by far my favorite skier hands down but... he for sure did not win that
Jesper is the #1!
Jesper was the real winner just as last year
Jesper won in my heart
No hate to henrik but jesper can do all of those tricks and he did better tricks than henrik switch dub back my guy is insane
Big fan of Henrik but Jesper should've won, maybe the judges felt like they had to give henrik the win after he dropped out of slopestyle
call 911, robbery is a felony
see you next tuesday judges!
I still don't understand why Jesper Tjäder did not win gold for this performance 🤷♀️
Jesper was insane
Jasper looks much more relaxed
Henrik was great, but actually he did more or less always the same always every year! Jesper just made amazing new and difficult tricks! Sorry Style machine, but Jasper was way better
The jugdes thought its unfair jesper is too good
damn Tjäders sending it far
bro really paid the judges to win the gold medal 💀💀💀