Why I Bought A $150 Turkey Instead of the Aja UHQR
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- My practical take on what is by all accounts, the audiophile release of the year.
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I just watched a video with Chad in it, he was wearing his tshirt that said on the front "buy now or cry later"
That sums up everything i have come to dislike about this vinyl resurgence and hobby.
The FOMO, the limited edition, the industry where if you don't order their audiophile overpriced pressing Today!!!!!
You'll have to pay even more for it tomorrow.
Its becoming toxic.
Its only Steeley Dan, nobody under 55 knows who they are anyway or cares.
Lets be honest its becoming a hobby for rich old people, 2lp 45rpm BS.
I also have a near mint AB-1006, and just spun my UHQR, I don’t like to say it sounds better, because the AB-1006 sounds absolutely fantastic, but the UHQR does absolutely knock your socks off, and will make your system setup sound the absolute best it possibly could😎👌
Good choice. The original ABC pressing of Aja is fantastic. The Royal Scam is however my favorite Steely Dan album. Take care.
same
Your reasoning is right on about getting the turkey instead. For that much money, the turkey better be analog and not digital!
If you don’t buy it, how would you know if the UHQR is a turkey or not?
I just don't have the equipment or the wallet to ever spend $125 - $150 for a single album - sure every now & then I buy a MoFi for $50 but that's my top. I have a mid-range Fluance Turntable along with a Sony receiver & Sony tower speakers & all of my regular copies of these pressings sound just fine to me. This audiophile pressing craze has gotten crazy - it's fun to just sit back & watch everyone talk about the good, bad etc. of these very expensive albums. As for your turkey - How does a store named Sprouts do not have fresh turkeys. 😉
Finally, some common sense from the vinyl community. Thank you.
I’m watchin’ an AB1006 of Steely Dan’s Aja on eBay. I’ve heard the versions of Aja on YT I like the Cisco it sounds classic ‘70’s and I think the UHQR has the best sound I’ve heard compared to all the other versions reviewed👍🏻 It’ll be interestin’ to compare the Cisco to the AB1006👍🏻
Welcome back, Tim. Like many of the others who have commented here, I too, have an OG NM AB-1006 copy of Aja and have zero interest in spending $150+ to listen to 4 sides of it on 45rpm. Same for my OG of Gaucho- it sounds incredible, so not sure about getting that either. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your wife. It's been 5 yrs. since my wife and I celebrated with family (we had moved to FL) but we are back home and thrilled to be with family again.
I’m with you. I have a mint ab original too. I only have to get up twice,not 4 times!!
I remember when Classic's Led Zeppelin catalogue was released at $30 a record and people were outraged. "I'm not spending $30 on a Led Zeppelin record!" Now those records, which are way better than the recent Jimmy Page mastered reissues will cost you hundreds. The $800 "road case" collection will cost you $8000. So you've made your choice, and later you might regret it. The UHQR is far better than any 33 1/3 edition especially the songs near the end of the sides for reasons I hope you understand but maybe you do not.
Hi Michael -- Thanks for stopping by. I definitely am not doubting the SQ of this UHQR. There is always the possibility that I will cave and order! BTW, my Gaucho pre-order is already in. Cheers, Tim
as they say, you don't know what you don't know. your opinion would change, for sure, if you heard the UHQR. yes, the AB-1006 is brilliant - for sure..i have several copies. but there is no comparison with the UHQR. another league. another dimension. you don't know what you don't know.
Rebranding time to University of steely Dan! Haha great video Tim nice perspective I have at least two great copies of steely Dan's Aja. Maybe Play A Little Aja soundtrack to your smoker p*** video😅
I love your vinyl reviews however please don’t be offended but this posting is a Turkey !
Enjoy your holiday 🏴
Looks like the University of Vinyl is giving the UHQR Aja the bird sort of speak. 🦃😂
Interesting take Tim. Aja is one of my top 5 albums of all time. I bought the UHQR and glad I did. Amazing. Another channel made a good analogy that this is like a fine cut of meat 🥩. I kinda agree. For me, I would rather spend $150 on something that will give a lifetime of joy versus a steakhouse dinner for two.
Btw, I’m Arizona and shop at Sprouts all the time. I have an Egg smoker and you have inspired me to try smoking my Turkey. 😄
Awesome, big green eggs are righteous
Cool. Can you review more records you are not going to buy?
I agree completely with your reasoning! I know you're a huge Steely Dan fan and as you said the timing wasn't right to buy the UHQR. You present a good example to the community, gauging what's important and basing your purchases on a scale that you set.
Fresh turkey on a Traeger grill - what's not to like? Happy Holidays to you
Thank you ✌🏻
I drive a 2018 Prius. I could drive a Maserati, and it would be fun and loud and fast. But going from point A to point B, using my Prius just makes more sense. I still listen to my copy of Aja that I got from RCA Music Service for a penny. It sounds amazing, as do the other four copies of Aja that I own.
Sure…but what if you’re doing more than going from point A to point B?
What if you’re on an open road like the Autobahn?
Same sort of analogy can be applied to 300K hifi? If you’re a lousy driver, can you appreciate the Maserati? If your ears aren’t acute, would you appreciate a copy that’s potentially better than the original? Or if your hifi isn’t up to speed, can it even reveal any advantages the UHQR might have over an original pressing?
Not to mention a record cut at 45rpm done right should have physical advantages over compressing grooves in a 33rpm format
@@cirenosnor5768 Whilst I admire the sonic qualities of your ears, it appears the bit in between isn't working.
" would you appreciate a copy that’s potentially better than the original?" - Sure!! Where do I sign?!
Hi Tim - I saw about three video reviews of Aja UHQR and frankly I was surprised of not finding your review video on this but happy to find it now. So I went ahead and bought it and received it today. I listened the album using my Sony headset and ohhh boy ... I got moved on the first song and the rest was a pleasure to listen. It was a great experienceI and actually appreciate the getting up to go through the two records as I can easily loose my focus and appreciation by the second song. Since they pressed 30K copies, I think they will be available for a while.
I'm not a collector and don't care about all of this stuff. I just recently bought the Geffen 180 gram copy of Aja for $30 and I'm perfectly happy with it. Collectors are kinda screwy.
Thank you aarp
Collectors are definitely screwy. However whether or not a record is worth it can be predicated on if your turntable or etc can justify a “audiophile” pressing that has merits. Also depends on where your ears are and if you can even hear differences that might exist
@@cirenosnor5768
So true. Back in the '90s I was all into that and with my Magnepan speakers I could, and wanted to experience all of the detail, sound staging, etc. My current set up is more than capable of giving an audiophile experience, but these days my ears and brain just aren't that anal. If I can buy five to seven LPs with good sonics over one $150 with absolute perfection then I consider that a pretty good trade off.
There are those who want the absolute best sound. and speed of analog media can determine quality. it is no coincidence that the master recording is recorded at high speed on the tape machine, such as 15 Ips
@@cirenosnor5768 Then it's about the speakers as well. Good speakers can make it sound like you're in the recording studio instead of your own living room. remember that the strongest link is the weakest link. or as they usually say. so good cartidge, Good phono Preamp. good amplifier and good speakers
Sorry, i don't believe you.. You'll be buying the UHQR.. you watch. You are a youtuber who does videos about these pressings.. you LOVE the band, you can't NOT do it. I enjoy the channel, keep it up. Enjoy the UHQR when you finally get it.
You are so right
😂 😂 😂
Enjoying the records you already have is a wild concept.
The Original Pressings are great sounding. Chad and acoustic sounds improve the sound just barely over the original. I would have to have the wow factor to pull $150 out of my pocket just barely beating the original just doesn't cut it.
it sounds way better not "just barely". Technically, close to the end of the record loses high frequencies. Compare "Deacon Blues" on the standard great sounding pressing with the UHQR. Not even close.
Nice discussion -- like you, I also appreciate the work being done at Acoustic Sounds but Aja . . . to me, that's an album you indulge yourself in after a hard week. Dimmed lights, comfortable chair, a glass of something nice - you get the idea. The notion of getting up and flipping the record after every song runs completely counter to that ideal experience.
Well said!
The recording on ultratape is probably even more expensive. yes analog productions also makes recordings on Real To real on real tape. There are obviously those who think it sounds even better than on vinyl
Have seen that and am avoiding that rabbit hole 👀
I own the AB 1006 and the Cisco, the UHRQ is that much better- I hope you get one for Christmas- you need to hear it.
I would say that is a good choice you made!! That turkey will probably melt in your mouth when you eat it!!! Then turkey sandwiches are delicious also!!!
You got that right!
Shipping is free.
I have a mint OG of Aja and it sounds amazing! I don't have a $300K sound system! Audiophiles have become crazy!!!
Audiophiles have always been crazy
I dig Aja but not enough to justify the UHQR spend. I will save that for A Love Supreme
If you had an audiophile system you would buy the UHQR for your audiophile listening experience.
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But Tim, you know what I mean@@Universityofvinyl
I'm just connecting the illustration between two turkeys here - hmm, I like it!
I also found a beautiful 10$ copy AB-1006 (re-3)-A p 1 😊 I spent another 140 on other vinyl!!
What the cluck Tim😂 Happy 4 you. I have #704 UHQR/Aja. It is fantastic. I have a 1977 AA-1006 and a Japanese pressing of Aja too. I did receive today the Countdown to Ecstasy SACD from Acoustic Sounds. I think you said this was a favorite of yours in a previous vid. I decided to spend $35 vs $150. I preordered the Gaucho/ UHQR coming Dec. 1st. I have other 45 RPMs of Steely Dan and Diana Krall so I don’t mind jumping up and changing discs since I only have near field listening in my music room. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your wife👍👍
I've just bought a new release of 'Aja', brand new, sealed and paid less than USD25. I have some audiophile editions such as half speed 'A Quick One' by The Who or Elton John's 'Madman Across The Water' cut in Abbey Road Studios, and the price was around USD40.00. I also buy used Japanese editions at a good price and their sound is fantastic, much better than the original records I used to have. Unfortunately, vinyl record prices are sky rocketing here in Brasil because there are people willing to pay. I don't.
Thanks for another terrific video Tim.
I own a CD Japanese Import copy of Aja.
It's wonderful.
Keep up the great work.
Regards,
David-
Purchasing yummy & healthy turkey for Thanksgiving is a much better choice than a vinyl record Tim.
well I have 3 or 4 original pressings and spent the money on a UHQR. Just listened to it on a vintage Sansui system and a Shure v15type 4. It like having the master compared to the original. Huge difference.
I have all the reissues of SD's UHQR and I could not be happier. Difference is Night to Day
@5:40 you don't know if the UHQR is worthy of the price but you have Miles behind you on UHQR.
A recommendation might be to make a copy of the album. Because the needle wears on the track. which means that when you have listened to the vinyl record several times, the sound quality will become worse
We have to consider that everyone has a different financial situation. A 150.00 record for some might be comparable to 30.00 purchase for someone else. Anyone can scrutinize everyone else purchases.
Just as an example, I physically can't eat any meat, so a $150 Turkey wouldn't be of any use to me, but the 150 UHQR might. It is all relative.
The big thing is irregardless if you spend 20 or 1 million on an audio system or 5 dollars to 500 on a record, if you can afford it and it brings you joy, that is all that really matters.
Never judge somebody else's life through your eyes or anyone else's ( you too can be judged harshly)because you will always be disappointed.
Tim. When you wake up from your costly Tryptophan induced slumber you will realize just what you are missing. Go out of your way to hear a copy or mumble in your sleep and maybe your wife will gift it to you for Christmas
The AB-1006 is one things, this is altogether another level.
Several years ago, I bought a Steely Dan 'Aja' album for only $2 from a local thrift store in near mint shape (I don't know which pressing) and that's good enough for me. :)
Pity the cost by the time I’d receive it in Toronto, Canada is so darned high. It would end up close to $300.00 Canadian! Just far too much for my budget.
A $150 for that album
No I'll take my family out to dinner when I get home, I'll put my c d guarantee you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test especially using gear that can be found in most people's homes.
I actually have a Geffen Records Reissue that just was released in Sept. 2023 that I purchased on Black Friday Record Store Day and it sounds great.
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What the hell did I just watch?
15 mins of my life I’ll never get back.
Loved this real world comparison- and I think I would’ve picked the turkey too - changing the record over so frequently does detract from the listening experience!
The UHR is incredible - aas much as I love the AB1006 and Cisco this brings everything forward. So musical and engaging in every way. Way exceeded my expectations. You owe it to yourself to at least find one to listen too.
Have both. It’s no contest, uhqr is better in every way. To each their own.
I tried smoking a turkey once... I was up to 2 packs a day in no time...
Makes sense, why try to replace listening perfection? Is that Quantum Criminals I see sitting on the non-Thorens TT dustcover behind you? Currently enjoying reading that one here as well.
Well spotted
I like Aja don´t get me wrong, but I can´t be the only one who prefers to spin The Royal Scam or Countdown to Ecstasy? :-D And no i won´t spend 200$ on another copy, the original copy sounds fine for my ears.
I agree! For all the hype "Aja" gets, I've always preferred "The Royal Scam", "Countdown to Ecstasy", and "Pretzel Logic" as my favorite Steely Dan albums. Our tastes in music are subjective, and there is no right, wrong, or this is their best.
You aren't alone in preferring 'The Royal Scam' to 'Aja'. I also love the whole catalog, but 'Can't Buy a Thrill' and 'The Royal Scam' are, hands down my favourite Steely Dan albums.
@@onsenkuma1979 ye i love all the songs on "cant buy a thrill." The audio production isnt as crisp as the follow up albums though, but hey, its a debut album. 😋
Love my AB-1006 as well, but going with a frozen Butterball that is on sale.
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We buy our Turkeys from Shelton’s Premium Poultry in Pomona California. They’ve been raising drug free happy birds since 1924. They now deliver their fresh farm raised Turkeys to some premium grocery stores in our local area. There is nothing better tasting than a fresh turkey. You never disappoint, Tim! Great decision. We can always count on real talk from you. Let the Jive Turkeys baste in their own juices. I’m happy with my MOFI Aja but I will be on the lookout now for the pressing you recommend in this video. Take care.
Steven
Thanks Steve - I’ve been enjoying your videos! ✌🏻
Hello Tim. I am sure many people will hold on purchasing a fresh turkey for Thanksgiving and instead be happy with the purchase of a frozen turkey because for them, the difference between fresh and frozen isn't worth the added cost nor can they distinguish enough difference between the two for it to matter to them. BTW, is that a 33rpm or 45rpm of Kind of Blue above your left shoulder in your video? Have a good Thanksgiving dinner.
Thomas...I see what you did there :-). It's the 33 UHQR BTW. Thanks for commenting.
sure youre passing on the $150 UHQR but will you pass on the future non-UHQR $60 45rpm version chad said was also coming?
Definitely hard to pass up if it happens
It won’t happen. 30K UHQRs to sell
It is not coming, Chad spoke out of turn and has to sell 40k uhqr
May I ask what you paid for your recent AJA ab1006?
Congrats on your disciplined approach to UHQR.
$36
For that money just roast Donald Fagan hehe
Tim? When it comes to music? Sometimes 'life' gets in the way. You sound a little disheartened. But the way I see it - if the pressing you have is giving you pleasure. With the added no pops & clicks? Then to me you don't need to do a $150 upgrade when you have what was seen as the pinnacle press before the UHQR release. Sometimes my friend we do regret pulling the trigger on things. But as it's the most important time of the year for you guys? (I'm British). The turkey wins. Organic farmed - even better. Yourself, wife and friend(s) have the best Thanksgiving. And there is always the future, Tim, to bag the holy grail. Happy spinning.
Kind words 🙏🏻 - thanks
Hey Tim!
Can you tell me the difference between the MFSL LP and the double lp 45 rpm vinyl as far as sound quality? The obvious diff is the price. I agree with the turkey purchase!👍😂
I’ve heard neither but the double 45 UHQR is getting rave reviews across the board.
A $150 dollar turkey is not practical. In a double blind test I doubt you can taste the difference!
Mr. Pete--------->
aging hippie!
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I wish more reviewers would take this approach once in a while. I feel that TH-camrs are inadvertently sending the wrong message that you need "the ultimate" version to achieve the ultimate pleasure... I don't subscribe to this (what could be taken as an) elitist view point and I'm glad you don't either.
Thank you
So I'm wondering, do the artists get paid more from a $150 UHQR album than from a $30 version of the same music?
Absolutely. Likely a special license agreement for these audiophile releases.
Does anyone know if this UHQR was mastered from the 1977 tape or is there a digital step in there as is usual these days? thats the big difference for me ............(MoFI thoughts in my head)
Reportedly the source for this UHQR reissue was a 1/2" Dolby A copy of the master.
OK, thanks - the multitrack is here , by the way..........th-cam.com/video/vxZPFNpB6yY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KdZHAbAFtaDLXWA0&t=3937@@Universityofvinyl
I understand, but you don’t mention the cost of a near mint copy, that’s as quiet as mentioned. These are not exactly cheap on Discogs, while finding these elsewhere is hit or miss.
I found this most recent one for $36
It does sound really good and I’m still looking for a clean OG. I live over in Timnath Ranch and you are welcome to borrow mine and done a comparison.
Noted. Thanks 👍🏻
I love Royal Scam!!!!! My fav
Nice honest discussion Tim! In some ways it pains me that the resident guru of the VC for Steely Dan won’t be picking up the seemingly unanimous GOAT of Aja . I’m wondering if you could borrow one from someone, do the comparison then decide whether it’s with the $$&? Just an idea but also understand the vinyl budget isn’t a bottomless pit
Here's the problem...well not my problem...LOL!!
If you're going to go UHQR then do it with mediocre recordings. Not recordings that sound incredible from the get go. I want to hear these UHQR's squeeze out the the best from the worst of a recording.
NOT to hear a small hearing variant of a great recording. That's no fun.
I so appreciate your sentiments Tim, I really do.
I so can't wait to get the 45rpm 4LP of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis which will force me to get up 8 times.
I already have my go to which is the Deluxe edition 2007 remix.....it's truly is unbelievable. I used to own the Classic Records just to get an original mix. It was garbage in comparison but I am actually going to try my first UHQR with the Lamb.
Should prove interesting.
Don't do it Tim, stick to your guns, If you're happy you're happy.
I TRULY appreciate your analogy and comparison to turkeys. You couldn't be more spot on correct.
I love Gaucho much better than Aja as well.
Peace Man!!!
Hi Darrin, thanks much for your thoughts, definitely tempted with the Genesis Atlantic 75s also.
Tim you did this Whole Foods video with a straight face. Drive west on sunset to the Sea turn that jungle music down just until we’re out of town
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I done the same thing minus the turkey, cost me about 25 quid. What did you pay for your copy?
$8 and $36 respectfully
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If everyone is so impressed with the UHQR pressing, why would you not want to hear all of the nuance. With this hobby, I enjoy hearing things I've never heard before. Can't wait to hear the detail and dead quiet pressing.
Steely Dan is amazing. It is some of the most brilliantly composed and written music ever put on vinyl. I'm not going to buy it either I have my '77 copy and it is amazing. If anyone ever doubts the talent, the music, the producing, David Crosby was asked on Twitter to name his 5 favorite albums of all time. Aja and Gaucho was two of his top 5 favorites. That speaks volumes. That means more and is more credible than any review from anyone.
Love it!
People under the age of 50 don't know who David Crosby is and don't give rats about Steely fking Dan either.
5 of my sons friends play in 2 different bands (they're 24ish) when I talk to them about classic rock they have no idea who I'm talking about.
At one of their gigs there was photos on the wall of Bon Scott, Jimmy page, Stevie nicks etc and they had no idea who they were, i said to them "you need to know this stuff" they weren't interested.
Great video Tim. A turkey snob 😂. Theres a first for everything 😉
Absolutely
I bought one in a clearance bin for $5 last week. Sounds perfect
45RPM
People actually spend 150 bucks on single albums? 😅
Welcome to the vinyl community….
No FOMO(fear of missing out). I got 3 copies of Aja(2 records and 1 CD) and that's enough. I can live just fine w/out the UHQR in the collection. Put those dollars elsewhere.
If it wasnt for the price tag on the UHQR,the subjectivity of the listening experience wouldnt be so rife.
I have many pressings of Aja,except for the Cisco version.
I believe from hearing other UHQR titles on a high end system,it has to be exceptional.
Keep in mind the Cisco that has been around for 15 +yrs is also a polarizing version. Some people say it aint worth the hype. And youll spend jyst as much as the UHQR to get it. And if its still sealed,you may have a defective vinyl that has residue from the glue on the inner sleeve😢.
Quality control is leagues better today of course. And Acoustic Sounds is always a safe bet when it comes to take your breath away presence and sound stages with perfect eq'ed mixing.
Simply put: If you have the system and the stylus that can reveal the best nuance in recorded material on vinyl,then put down the money.
If you have a mid range or basic setup,go for the $35 version.
Soon a mint first press AB-1006 will no longer be readily available anymore. And the price will certainly double.
No. Im not selling mine either😊
You need to list your equipment. Your not going to hear differences if your equipment is not suitable
Thorens td145, nagaoka mp-200, McIntosh MA 6100, Klipsch Cornwall II’s
@Universityofvinyl yea sorry not going hear the difference. Not saying what you have is bad just not fine enough to bring out the quality of the pressing
I find it interesting how "Its too expensive' or "I dont want to spend 150 on a record I have a decent copy of" has become a common review of a pressing. It's usually in the comments. If you've actually heard it, you've heard the best version. I dont even think on this one it's a matter of opinion. This is a pinnacle of engineering, production, mastering, plating and pressing. Thats why it's so incredibly good. Every piece of the chain is done to near perfection. And I would have paid more.
Thanks for this Tim. I love the contrarian take. I just bought an AB 1006 Vg+++ for 40NZ. I have listened to this record for 30 + years and this version took my breath away. I have not heard the UHQR. The UHQR here is NZ if we can get it will sell for 500 -600 NZ dollars about 300-350US - yes you read that right. I am devoted to Black Cow. Like you I am going for Gaucho and saving hard due to the trifecta of Babylon, Glamour and My Rival. All four songs are desert island songs. To paraphrase Meatloaf 3/4 aint bad. Gacho purely on value per dollar. Keep up the great work
I buy copies of a release that sound best TO MY EARS.
I have zero interest to impress others with what is in my collection.
Not into D-measuring contests.
Aja OG picked up for a buck pre Discogs Era, Redbook CD picked for a buck after the Discogs Era..both awesome to my ears...deep fried turkey..be safe when you put the turkey in oil..have a safe thanksgiving
Hey Tim, longtime lurker here. Great topic. But BTW when smoking your turkey, how do you keep it lit?
Good choice Tim. My $1 AB1006 is only a VG, but I'm ok with it until a better one falls into my lap.
UHQR is the fresh turkey, UMG 29 dollar is the frozen turkey? Ha! Love your videos, UoV!
Hey Tim! You can probably purchase the UHQR later on anyways if you so desire. It may take awhile to sell out from Chad. Hope you and your family enjoy that fresh Thanksgiving turkey.
The thing is that this album is impeccably recorded mixed and mastered anyway, UHQR will just control all aspects of mastering onwards so preserving the sounds fidelity so may be noticeable on a very revealing playback system, earlier pressings should sound good because of the fidelity of the recording in the first place.
I'm in a similar place. Aja UHQR might end up being my Christmas present to myself, but we have some home improvements to make before that so I'm holding off. This video really made me laugh so thanks for that!
Good on you! Well done on resisting FOMO, made easier no doubt by the fact you now have an outstanding version of Aja in hand. Really looking forward to your review of the UHQR Gaucho whenever it drops.
I so love that you bought those Cornwalls! And don't call me Shirley.
tape 45 rpm vinyl o
n reel to reel very little loss of fidelity on good machine if you don't like to get up other good recording methods as well
I am shocked, shocked that someone would do 2 videos on Steely Dan whatsoever; let alone 2 on the UHQR Aja within mere days :) if I ever found an AB-1006 NM I would be stoked but alas, mine has been played a bit too much. Great video Tim!
hahahaahahah.......Take care David!
That is called having more money than you know what to do with......
LOL Tim. I'm waiting for the box-less version.