17:00 thats the biggest problem with Lost Ark: players who are behind don't mingle with players who are on latest endgame, so they rely on recycling the playerbase with new/returning players. But thats a big design flaw: an mmo where people DO NOT play together, there is ZERO reward/reason for veteran players to join older content and help people catch up (the game actually does the opposite and hinders you for doing that). And that is NOT a recent problem, it has been like that since tier 1/2 abyssal dungeons.
I am in the same boat as you. I already cut my play time to only do rested dailies on my top 6 (only guardians on top 2) and raid only Theamine on two characters. I am riding the gold from 6 months ago, but once that goes…without something changing I am done.
The game is just not for the majority of players. Most players join quietly and quit silently. No casual player should ever feel obligated to join hard content to progress. Why are we required to run Hard voldis to get leg elixirs? Same for transcendence. Why not give the same reward, just less quantity and less gold so it takes longer? I'll not even start on how terrible the Elixirs system even is. It's such a stupidly unecessary RNG shitfest. Just make Gear Set level 4 ffs
Thanks for posting this. I actually really like the idea of how about just release a raid and remove a vertical system. What if Thaemine was released without transcendence, the cadence would make a lot more sense for the west. You can always just hold off on a vertical system and push it later on.. or even just releasing a raid without any vertical system at all.
I think it's going too fast ONLY BECAUSE the 2 recent progressions are heavy RNG, especially elixirs. If it's honing a new level of gear, it is not as bad cause you know there's an end there. But for elixirs and transcendence, it's possible you may never get there
it just sucks bc if you take a break and then try to come back, it really feels hopeless to try and catch up and play current content, and I really can't think of any other game that is like that.
I've given up, themine came out I couldn't be bothered to deal with Party finder cancer again I think it took 1 day for EU to be full of reclear lobbies so I never bothered. Two weeks I've barely played after playing thousands of hours since launch, it's a never ending treadmill. I started playing Genshin again log in play for a bit log off, extremely casual and respects your time. I've started practicing art again going to the gym etc. It's so much better than logging in to do chaos dungeons even when rested.
Releasing it slowly is not the play Nerfing the systems doesn't help in particular since some of the systems are RNG anyway We need gold nerfs on everything
They need to drastically reduce the cost of the systems so that people have gold to hone to hit new ilvl's while also interacting with these massively high cost systems. It costs hundreds of thousands of raw gold just to hone, not including mats ... add on 200-300k if you have above average rng for a bad 40 set elixirs on top of another 400-600k to get transcendence. And people wonder why so many people quit because of gatekeeping. The RNG zealots eat this shit up but it's the reason the game is dying. And no one wants to take accountability for it. It's all the "game design" ... no, no. It's only partly the game design, most of it is on the players in the community.
I just got 1620 and started my elixirs, I already wasted 60k golds to get absolutely 0 elixirs worth of any interest (same with transcendance btw) after pittying all my weapon hones FROM +13 TO +19. The game feels unrewarding, everything is slow and expensive and I play since release. I am not having that much fun lately and I'm starting to consider taking a break/quitting. I was able to ignore the fact I am one of the unluckiest players of this game (realistically) until now but now that I am 20 years behind I start to feel a bit bad. Not to mention I meet people with ~180-210 roster lvl with full 10 gems, 35/40 elixirs sets and higher ilvl than me which makes absolutely 0 sense. Grinding has no business being that hard, it rips all the fun off of the game, even if I spent my whole life on it it wouldn't be enough.
I'm a returning player, left the game right before Voldis release. I'd say i was in a decent position, but not great either, had 2 1600s ready for Voldis. I had fusions made, which I sold later when they boomed (I had no idea just happened to log in and see sometime in january), of which all the gold went to building my SE from express before Voldis. Right now I'm standing at barely 1620, with no gold left, getting gatekept, even my main is 5x3 still, no elixirs. I barely cleared HM last week after a total of 11-12 hours of lobby jail, by a random paladin accepting only 0 set people. I wanted to buy many skins, but I couldn't even afford any, cause I got so much goldsinks I had to deal with, and they keep inflating. In my opinion the problem is not the pacing, because I understand the burnout of people wanting something new, I've been there, it's the amount of goldsink, and the powerlevel gatekeeping they bring.
Yup. You're punished because you took a beak or didn't push your entire roster up. Time to get nerfed raid gold and jails because you get to play with goldfarmers and total noobies. Hence, dead /unsustainable game.
i have to say that the worst thing for me is the non stop content release ivory-thaemine now echidna but if you arent lucky with elixirs armor tranced. you waste crazy amount of gold + you have honing to do. raids prog daily- weekly so many things to do not enough time gold to play another char
Kinda the double edged sword of developers think they are helping out new people but dont understand just how much the playerbase dictates the standard in MMOs across the board, WoW, FF, Eve, BDO, LA, all of em pretty much.
I'm already burt out. I log in and want to log off. I dont wana donthe same raids on alts I don't wana raid and sit in party finder for 30 mins. I don't wana wipe to the same dumb shit over and over. Time for another 6month break. I'll see ya in November hopefully game is fun by then
Lets be real just cuz my Main is 1633 Doesnt mean i enjoy the Vertical sht i just wanna do Hardmode Raids instead of Special ED Difficulty. Elixirs Suck , i tried to learn and understand all the strats and stuff but tbh im not good with math and numbers in general , that elixir gives me a headache while eating all my gold . so i end up using AI for it cuz its literally waste of gold if u dont exactly know what u are doing. ( had a rlly Smart friend help me cut for a while too but intelligence sadly doesnt beat bad rng ) Now Adding trans i luckily cleard G3 HM Puggin and got to work on my Level 7 Chest/ 20star ye 2 lv3 grace 1 lv1 Grace - 120k+ , now into Pants surely it wont be as bad right? idk now im supposed to start Advance Hone in 7-8Weeks on top of that .... But HOW?!?!?!? I also have this New Class called Breaker which i rlly like and would like to give him some Love but again HOW???? i barely make enough to pay for the weekly vertical Costs to maintain a bare minimum roster at End game content ... Edit: I consider my Self pretty lucky like i only pittied twice from 1620 to 1630 and had a bunch go below 15% , weapon from 21-25 was all below 15% But then i go meet the new system and still feel dirt poor even tho i just safed infinite gold , Why?! why u make me feel bad for getting lucky? Feels Like u rlly cant win after all in our Version.
@@devinsetiawan8863 It's likely because they play in pugs. Don't even mention the "get a static" because not everyone wants to do that, and games shouldn't be designed around having premade groups for everything. Going back to pugging, if you aren't with everyone when it comes to progression, then it becomes exponentially more difficult to get into groups to clear. Also, while it would be nice to feel like you can go at your own pace, everything in this game is so heavily time-gated that when new content comes out (which everyone should be able to at least try out imo, and most people want to play it) you just aren't even close to getting there. I personally don't care if my gear isn't up to speed with everyone, but I know that because of that, I will have to waste a lot of time trying to find people that will play with me. Solo raids would potentially fix all of this though, because then you truly can play at your own pace, and your progression won't be tied to other people's decisions.
zeals i have question in kr Lost ark, do the x3 endgame gold content include the behemoth 16 man raid ? so thaemine gona gone next raid update ? (its not really gone but for endgame raid ) new 3 got replaced right?
Yes thaemine will not be included next new raid for 1630+ character. Unless if for some reason the next raid doesn't give more gold than thaemine then ppl probably will still comes back to thaemine.
So far I get gold from Behemoth Echida and Thaemine. I don't know how they are going to phase out Thaemine cause he drops 41k gold every other week, 20k every week. HMMGE
As long as Echinda (Ladon) is nerfed for dps requirement around transcendence level. If normal is nerfed 5-10% and hard nerfed 15-20% I have no issues. The problem is if the above doesn’t happen and then gatekeeping goes nuts. Behemoth being lowered to 1630 and coming out in August would go very far since it is a good dps jump for a free/quick/easy raid.
It's not going to happen and while you don't even need transcendence for Echidna NM at 1620, you bet your ass the entire community will gatekeep TF outta people that don't have max transcendence available from doing NM Thaemine.
Nerfing fight doesn’t prevent gatekeeping. If a new vertical system is out you bet people want to see you with it. So got to either remove verticals or nerf the vertical systems is the point of the video
Here's my opinion as 1.5k hrs played player that quit already: AGS needs to take control from SG regarding our progression systems. Idgaf if kr manbabies feel bad that our progression is made better then, we need fixes ASAP. Waiting for Echidna/Behe and praying they fix shit like AGS do is going to completely kill the game. Reality is that aside from nolifers, the only ppl with more than one endgame ready chars are RMTers, swipers and botters. This will only get worse with next raid releases. So our endgame pop will not only have fraction of kr endgame players due to pop difference, but that fraction is again cut in half due to lack of alts playing. This will eventually lead to more ppl burning out from lobby sim and spiral out of control, eventually killing game for us. There are 3 main things that game desperately needs: 1st, NM mode nerfs. That diff needs to be gutted to be clearable by casual players and all single guy mistake raidwipes need to be removed from it. Leave hard fights for HM. You can't make game purely for HC audience or it will die. Let casuals play their share. Second, at least 70% vertical system nerf. Make Artisan gain 5x, increase base honing chance to 25% unjuiced, silver honing until 1620, transcendence and elixir cost to 5g and buff bad rng flooor so that people cant get zero results for 4 weeks straight due to bad rng etc. Let people play the game with some vertical progression systems, instead of playing vertical progression systems with a Lost Ark minigame. Let us have 6 endgame alts easily ffs. Third, futureproof progression system by making them independent from game pop. Let us increase acc quality or reroll engravings on them etc. Transcendence and Elixirs work rn, but when new raids comeout and Voldis/Thaemine become equivalent to today's Clown wtf are new players supposed to do? Form groups for dead raids? Not play game until next handout?
absolutely no "kr manbabies" will care if the western version has relaxed. 25:55 They want us to either succeed or want a good system themselves so they would love if west got it and it was carried over to other regions as well. not sure why people think so hatefully and in the shade like you do but some people think they want others to succeed and that success to come over to them as well. it's called a win win situation.
They need to stop making every vertical progression a frustrating gold sink and less rng. Say what you will but Lost Ark doesnt even pretend to be a glorified mobile gacha game anymore. Everything is a frustrating rng. Accessories? you need to worry about quality, stats, engravings. Elixirs its rng wether u get the desired effect, the choises and the chance. Transendence has pity but getting there is also rather expensive. Bracelets? way too many options and then u need worry about the quality of that option if u get it. Stones? 7/7 is fine so i guess thats a passable struggle. Honing? the difference between early tapping and pity is tremendously large. Some of these things need to die or be heavily adjusted not even all of them. Just reduce the frustration that comes with each system. They also made Behemoth a 16-man to bring back the feeling of an MMO. But the truth is, Lost Ark has lost what makes an MMO an MMO. Veterans wont help new players and relationships for some people are straight up based on their skill and gear not the quality of the person. The game has no variety. Just because theres raids it doesnt mean you have an MMO, thats only in name for lost ark. Faster content is fine but they need to adjust the rewards and difficulty of the raids with that in mind. And im sorry to say but SG/AGS both failed to deliver on that.
The game is just too much, i’m a returning player, and I probably won’t play again until Solo Raids is out. It’s exhausting, games should be fun, and right now it just isn’t for the majority of new and returning players. Too many requirements for us.
i want easier content. I'd spend much more time in the game if i would not have to sweat every single time i'm doing an end game raid like Thaemine or play lobby simulator because of GK. It's a frecking game man, i want to have fun when i start it.
I started back in september right after the lolly patch and by the soul eater patch, it takes way too long to get 1610, and circumvent the los30 gatekeep, its sad ive seen ppl outperform ppl with los 30, while on dd30 or clear akkan and voldis with dd18 and dd30, gatekeeping with los and the 10 clears is still stupid, its hust that there is no way to distinguish between a decent player and crappy one.
17:00 thats the biggest problem with Lost Ark: players who are behind don't mingle with players who are on latest endgame, so they rely on recycling the playerbase with new/returning players. But thats a big design flaw: an mmo where people DO NOT play together, there is ZERO reward/reason for veteran players to join older content and help people catch up (the game actually does the opposite and hinders you for doing that). And that is NOT a recent problem, it has been like that since tier 1/2 abyssal dungeons.
3-4 vertical systems before June? Nah bruh, I'm already on track to quit the game unless they drastically nerf the CURRENT vertical systems.
They already said they will
@@saigaane When? The game needs it NOW
I am in the same boat as you. I already cut my play time to only do rested dailies on my top 6 (only guardians on top 2) and raid only Theamine on two characters. I am riding the gold from 6 months ago, but once that goes…without something changing I am done.
he said by December didn't he? 26:51 "from june to december if there are 3-4 vertical systems they are delu--"
@@lelainet6478 Kinda scares me how much ppl misheard what I originally said 😅😅😅
The game is just not for the majority of players. Most players join quietly and quit silently. No casual player should ever feel obligated to join hard content to progress.
Why are we required to run Hard voldis to get leg elixirs? Same for transcendence. Why not give the same reward, just less quantity and less gold so it takes longer? I'll not even start on how terrible the Elixirs system even is. It's such a stupidly unecessary RNG shitfest. Just make Gear Set level 4 ffs
On avg. we are 1,5-2 million gold behind KR at current content...
Thanks for posting this. I actually really like the idea of how about just release a raid and remove a vertical system. What if Thaemine was released without transcendence, the cadence would make a lot more sense for the west. You can always just hold off on a vertical system and push it later on.. or even just releasing a raid without any vertical system at all.
I think it's going too fast ONLY BECAUSE the 2 recent progressions are heavy RNG, especially elixirs. If it's honing a new level of gear, it is not as bad cause you know there's an end there. But for elixirs and transcendence, it's possible you may never get there
it just sucks bc if you take a break and then try to come back, it really feels hopeless to try and catch up and play current content, and I really can't think of any other game that is like that.
I've given up, themine came out I couldn't be bothered to deal with Party finder cancer again I think it took 1 day for EU to be full of reclear lobbies so I never bothered. Two weeks I've barely played after playing thousands of hours since launch, it's a never ending treadmill. I started playing Genshin again log in play for a bit log off, extremely casual and respects your time. I've started practicing art again going to the gym etc. It's so much better than logging in to do chaos dungeons even when rested.
Gym Cost me 2 Hours a day and That just 3 times a week. You dont have Time for That? Dude…
genshin impact is another hw game
@@Ryan-tq1lq A different kind where you can get it done in 10 mins.
@@puma21puma21 the game is meaningless after playing for a while , all of friends quitted after playing 2 years
Releasing it slowly is not the play
Nerfing the systems doesn't help in particular since some of the systems are RNG anyway
We need gold nerfs on everything
So 6:50 ❤ heck yeah
this vertical made me fomo wanna clear thaemine fast, and this fomo made my life worse.
They need to drastically reduce the cost of the systems so that people have gold to hone to hit new ilvl's while also interacting with these massively high cost systems.
It costs hundreds of thousands of raw gold just to hone, not including mats ... add on 200-300k if you have above average rng for a bad 40 set elixirs on top of another 400-600k to get transcendence. And people wonder why so many people quit because of gatekeeping.
The RNG zealots eat this shit up but it's the reason the game is dying. And no one wants to take accountability for it. It's all the "game design" ... no, no. It's only partly the game design, most of it is on the players in the community.
I just got 1620 and started my elixirs, I already wasted 60k golds to get absolutely 0 elixirs worth of any interest (same with transcendance btw) after pittying all my weapon hones FROM +13 TO +19. The game feels unrewarding, everything is slow and expensive and I play since release. I am not having that much fun lately and I'm starting to consider taking a break/quitting. I was able to ignore the fact I am one of the unluckiest players of this game (realistically) until now but now that I am 20 years behind I start to feel a bit bad. Not to mention I meet people with ~180-210 roster lvl with full 10 gems, 35/40 elixirs sets and higher ilvl than me which makes absolutely 0 sense. Grinding has no business being that hard, it rips all the fun off of the game, even if I spent my whole life on it it wouldn't be enough.
I'm a returning player, left the game right before Voldis release. I'd say i was in a decent position, but not great either, had 2 1600s ready for Voldis. I had fusions made, which I sold later when they boomed (I had no idea just happened to log in and see sometime in january), of which all the gold went to building my SE from express before Voldis.
Right now I'm standing at barely 1620, with no gold left, getting gatekept, even my main is 5x3 still, no elixirs. I barely cleared HM last week after a total of 11-12 hours of lobby jail, by a random paladin accepting only 0 set people. I wanted to buy many skins, but I couldn't even afford any, cause I got so much goldsinks I had to deal with, and they keep inflating.
In my opinion the problem is not the pacing, because I understand the burnout of people wanting something new, I've been there, it's the amount of goldsink, and the powerlevel gatekeeping they bring.
I don't mind the pacing personally, but they really need to nerf elixir cutting costs, it's wild
Transcendence very expensive too and 1610 to 1620 is 200k gold avg just flat honing cost
Being behind means being jail times 2 or 3 I took a break and had to run kakul MY GOD the jail I had even though I knew the raid.
Yup. You're punished because you took a beak or didn't push your entire roster up. Time to get nerfed raid gold and jails because you get to play with goldfarmers and total noobies. Hence, dead /unsustainable game.
As a returnee player. I am forever stuck at 1580. Cant find a prog/learning group in SA
i have to say that the worst thing for me is the non stop content release ivory-thaemine now echidna but if you arent lucky with elixirs armor tranced. you waste crazy amount of gold + you have honing to do. raids prog daily- weekly so many things to do not enough time gold to play another char
Kinda the double edged sword of developers think they are helping out new people but dont understand just how much the playerbase dictates the standard in MMOs across the board, WoW, FF, Eve, BDO, LA, all of em pretty much.
I'm already burt out. I log in and want to log off. I dont wana donthe same raids on alts I don't wana raid and sit in party finder for 30 mins. I don't wana wipe to the same dumb shit over and over. Time for another 6month break. I'll see ya in November hopefully game is fun by then
Lets be real just cuz my Main is 1633 Doesnt mean i enjoy the Vertical sht i just wanna do Hardmode Raids instead of Special ED Difficulty.
Elixirs Suck , i tried to learn and understand all the strats and stuff but tbh im not good with math and numbers in general , that elixir gives me a headache while eating all my gold . so i end up using AI for it cuz its literally waste of gold if u dont exactly know what u are doing. ( had a rlly Smart friend help me cut for a while too but intelligence sadly doesnt beat bad rng )
Now Adding trans i luckily cleard G3 HM Puggin and got to work on my Level 7 Chest/ 20star ye 2 lv3 grace 1 lv1 Grace - 120k+ , now into Pants surely it wont be as bad right?
idk now im supposed to start Advance Hone in 7-8Weeks on top of that .... But HOW?!?!?!? I also have this New Class called Breaker which i rlly like and would like to give him some Love but again HOW???? i barely make enough to pay for the weekly vertical Costs to maintain a bare minimum roster at End game content ...
Edit: I consider my Self pretty lucky like i only pittied twice from 1620 to 1630 and had a bunch go below 15% , weapon from 21-25 was all below 15% But then i go meet the new system and still feel dirt poor even tho i just safed infinite gold , Why?! why u make me feel bad for getting lucky? Feels Like u rlly cant win after all in our Version.
just dont need fomo why ? climb the endgame little by little
@@devinsetiawan8863 It's likely because they play in pugs. Don't even mention the "get a static" because not everyone wants to do that, and games shouldn't be designed around having premade groups for everything. Going back to pugging, if you aren't with everyone when it comes to progression, then it becomes exponentially more difficult to get into groups to clear. Also, while it would be nice to feel like you can go at your own pace, everything in this game is so heavily time-gated that when new content comes out (which everyone should be able to at least try out imo, and most people want to play it) you just aren't even close to getting there.
I personally don't care if my gear isn't up to speed with everyone, but I know that because of that, I will have to waste a lot of time trying to find people that will play with me. Solo raids would potentially fix all of this though, because then you truly can play at your own pace, and your progression won't be tied to other people's decisions.
Just get a static @@inventedbaton958
We really need a honing boost for 1580+
Why not release a new raid without any progression system. Let the raid drop the usual gold & mats but put cosmetics in there like kayangel wings.
25:25 ?
You can't slow down, two weeks after thaemine ppl asking for 10x clear haha.
zeals i have question in kr Lost ark, do the x3 endgame gold content include the behemoth 16 man raid ?
so thaemine gona gone next raid update ? (its not really gone but for endgame raid ) new 3 got replaced right?
Behemoth 1640, Echidna 1630/1620, Thaemine 1630/1620, why would thaemine be gone
Yes thaemine will not be included next new raid for 1630+ character. Unless if for some reason the next raid doesn't give more gold than thaemine then ppl probably will still comes back to thaemine.
So far I get gold from Behemoth Echida and Thaemine. I don't know how they are going to phase out Thaemine cause he drops 41k gold every other week, 20k every week. HMMGE
As long as Echinda (Ladon) is nerfed for dps requirement around transcendence level. If normal is nerfed 5-10% and hard nerfed 15-20% I have no issues.
The problem is if the above doesn’t happen and then gatekeeping goes nuts.
Behemoth being lowered to 1630 and coming out in August would go very far since it is a good dps jump for a free/quick/easy raid.
It's not going to happen and while you don't even need transcendence for Echidna NM at 1620, you bet your ass the entire community will gatekeep TF outta people that don't have max transcendence available from doing NM Thaemine.
Nerfing fight doesn’t prevent gatekeeping. If a new vertical system is out you bet people want to see you with it. So got to either remove verticals or nerf the vertical systems is the point of the video
@@zealshighlightssadly, you are spot on. Even if the nerf goes through people will use it to gatekeep.
Here's my opinion as 1.5k hrs played player that quit already: AGS needs to take control from SG regarding our progression systems. Idgaf if kr manbabies feel bad that our progression is made better then, we need fixes ASAP. Waiting for Echidna/Behe and praying they fix shit like AGS do is going to completely kill the game. Reality is that aside from nolifers, the only ppl with more than one endgame ready chars are RMTers, swipers and botters. This will only get worse with next raid releases. So our endgame pop will not only have fraction of kr endgame players due to pop difference, but that fraction is again cut in half due to lack of alts playing. This will eventually lead to more ppl burning out from lobby sim and spiral out of control, eventually killing game for us.
There are 3 main things that game desperately needs: 1st, NM mode nerfs. That diff needs to be gutted to be clearable by casual players and all single guy mistake raidwipes need to be removed from it. Leave hard fights for HM. You can't make game purely for HC audience or it will die. Let casuals play their share.
Second, at least 70% vertical system nerf. Make Artisan gain 5x, increase base honing chance to 25% unjuiced, silver honing until 1620, transcendence and elixir cost to 5g and buff bad rng flooor so that people cant get zero results for 4 weeks straight due to bad rng etc. Let people play the game with some vertical progression systems, instead of playing vertical progression systems with a Lost Ark minigame. Let us have 6 endgame alts easily ffs.
Third, futureproof progression system by making them independent from game pop. Let us increase acc quality or reroll engravings on them etc.
Transcendence and Elixirs work rn, but when new raids comeout and Voldis/Thaemine become equivalent to today's Clown wtf are new players supposed to do? Form groups for dead raids? Not play game until next handout?
absolutely no "kr manbabies" will care if the western version has relaxed. 25:55 They want us to either succeed or want a good system themselves so they would love if west got it and it was carried over to other regions as well. not sure why people think so hatefully and in the shade like you do but some people think they want others to succeed and that success to come over to them as well. it's called a win win situation.
Echidna is fine, if you can play Thaemine, you can almost play Echidna. 1620 isnt that hard to get to.
Yea the gold sink is too fast
NERF GOLD HONING and BUFF HONING RATE its the only i want RN
They need to stop making every vertical progression a frustrating gold sink and less rng. Say what you will but Lost Ark doesnt even pretend to be a glorified mobile gacha game anymore.
Everything is a frustrating rng. Accessories? you need to worry about quality, stats, engravings. Elixirs its rng wether u get the desired effect, the choises and the chance. Transendence has pity but getting there is also rather expensive. Bracelets? way too many options and then u need worry about the quality of that option if u get it. Stones? 7/7 is fine so i guess thats a passable struggle. Honing? the difference between early tapping and pity is tremendously large.
Some of these things need to die or be heavily adjusted not even all of them. Just reduce the frustration that comes with each system.
They also made Behemoth a 16-man to bring back the feeling of an MMO. But the truth is, Lost Ark has lost what makes an MMO an MMO. Veterans wont help new players and relationships for some people are straight up based on their skill and gear not the quality of the person. The game has no variety. Just because theres raids it doesnt mean you have an MMO, thats only in name for lost ark.
Faster content is fine but they need to adjust the rewards and difficulty of the raids with that in mind. And im sorry to say but SG/AGS both failed to deliver on that.
The game is just too much, i’m a returning player, and I probably won’t play again until Solo Raids is out. It’s exhausting, games should be fun, and right now it just isn’t for the majority of new and returning players. Too many requirements for us.
i want easier content. I'd spend much more time in the game if i would not have to sweat every single time i'm doing an end game raid like Thaemine or play lobby simulator because of GK. It's a frecking game man, i want to have fun when i start it.
Gold sink so fast but BOT sink impossible add some gatekeeping this West version is totally chaos in shambles
True, the whales only remains because the bots keep selling them cheap gold. If bots gone I bet even the whales gonna cry of these greedy ass systems.
I started back in september right after the lolly patch and by the soul eater patch, it takes way too long to get 1610, and circumvent the los30 gatekeep, its sad ive seen ppl outperform ppl with los 30, while on dd30 or clear akkan and voldis with dd18 and dd30, gatekeeping with los and the 10 clears is still stupid, its hust that there is no way to distinguish between a decent player and crappy one.
everything is to fast, i really dont like the elixir system, its worst then quality, rock, honing
They just need to make Elixier and transandence easier for us