The home comparison for Waqar should have the aside that Waqar's home pitches in a country typically flat & slow, unlike Rabada's pitches in SA with pace, movement and bounce. That's not to take anything away from Rabada.
Its funny how all the greatest WI fast bowlers had total wickets in the range of 150 to 300 with great averages & strike rates during times where the amount of cricket played was much lesser in the 70s & 80s while Kagiso won't get the same amount of praise as does Dale Steyn inspite of having such great figures in a similar situation since SA plays lesser test matches
Always great content! Just my 2 cents... It's the imbalance between the BIG 3 and everyone else that shows in the stats and monetary value of the cricket boards. Think of Steyn and how he outplayed Jimmy Anderson his entire career until injury cut it short, with a lot less to show for it. During the ongoing 2nd test (Aus vs Pak Dec. 2023) comm. stated that *Khawaja had faced more balls in the calendar year than the entire SA team...well it helps if you've played a great deal of cricket more than the other teams. *credit to Khawaja though - he has an amazing year One has to think that IMPACT should be weighed more in terms of averages and SR over an extended amount of time, than solely the amount of wickets taken to consider GREATS of the game. *Again, hats of to the top run getters and wicket takers - much respect
The Steyn and Anderson comment is a bit unfair, Steyn's prime saw SA get a lot of 3/4 test series, rather than the tripe we have now of only 2 match test series for teams outside of England, India and Australia. Anderson's longevity is just unreal, regardless of the finances of the ECB. Steyn's wallet would get topped up by the IPL, four overs every few days, unlike say Courtney Walsh back in the day, who I believe bowled more balls outside of tests than Jimmy and Steyn bowled in their entire careers, just to earn a living.
@@joshforde698 Absolutely, I agree with you with Anderson's longevity🙏, though it was not a big split, 3-5 tests extra a year adds up over time to at least 30+ tests over a career. In terms of finances, it's more about what boards have in their kitty compared to players' income, and what they can do with the development of players, medical side, of things etc. to help players recover and extend their careers.
@@Ricky.Peters There is a bit of truth to that, then again, some people just have bodies which hold up and others break down earlier, regardless of finances, to use tennis as an example, Djokovic has held up much better than Murray and Nadal. Steyn realistically was on his way to being done in 2015 through injuries, Jimmy has maybe started to decline now, but his health record is still good.
@@joshforde698 It is true Mr. Forde, the individual abilities and health of players belong to them and there's only so much science can do. Honestly, I am a bit jealous of what Jimmy can do at his age, but then it would just be really nice to see more test cricket being played amongst all teams to promote the game and the enthusiasm for for it. Rabada to Anderson to Steyn, and so on...they lived the cricketing lives most of us can only dream of.
Great analysis Jarrod . . . This video also highlights how underrated Vittori was; had to bowl in New Zealand all his life, yet he was the best Batter and Bowler for his team for a long 5 or 6 years period Please consider doing a video on him
He was the biggest exponent of Wobble 'lottery' ball on extremely helpful bowling conditions. I really dislike the invention of wobble ball in Test cricket, quite ridiculous how a fast bowler can get Wickets without knowing which way the ball will go after pitching. It is like providing personal 4th-5th day Cracks in pitches from day 1.
Philander had been taken buckets of wickets before the so called "wobble" ball became mainstream. He is an exponent of seam bowling and discipline like no one else. He moved the ball by being deadly accurate and angling the seam as he wished, making it deviate off the pitch on landing. It's crazy what he was able to do without pace and bounce - what is essentially the minimum required in South africa. Vernon is a legend.
@vikranthmelanathur6505 I feel you brother. Even I don't like it in cricket when there's a bit of a lottery, unlike in games like table tennis or tennis where you have a lot more control things like spin.
Good one Jarrod. I have a suggestion to make, please do not combine all the subcontinent nations into Asia while comparing averages (I dislike that part of Statsguru...). Fast bowling in India with SG ball and its prominent seam which assists initial swing, cutters and reverse swing, is not the same as fast bowling on the flat decks of Pakistan, or the turners of Sri Lanka and Bangladesh with Kookubara ball. Indian fast bowlers like Kapil and Srinath have always done well at Home attacking the stumps (Kapil never knew about Reverse swing and Srinath learnt it late into his career), and particularly since 2015 Umesh and Shami have been lethal. Needless to say the likes of Steyn, Marshall, Hadlee, Walsh, Gillespie and Mcgrath were extremely effective in India compared to other subcontinent nations. I am sure Wasim and Waqar could have done the same but most of Indo-Pak matches were on flat designer decks to ensure draws and the players' necks. Imran was the exception in the 80s but imo that was mostly due to pre-camera bottlecaps...
juxtaposing shastri's SR with rabada's SR should be considered an illegal blow in combat sports
The home comparison for Waqar should have the aside that Waqar's home pitches in a country typically flat & slow, unlike Rabada's pitches in SA with pace, movement and bounce. That's not to take anything away from Rabada.
Equally Waqar wasn't a great bowler in Aussie conditions and his stats flattered him in SA where he never won a test match.
Pak pitches in the past were different.
Its funny how all the greatest WI fast bowlers had total wickets in the range of 150 to 300 with great averages & strike rates during times where the amount of cricket played was much lesser in the 70s & 80s while Kagiso won't get the same amount of praise as does Dale Steyn inspite of having such great figures in a similar situation since SA plays lesser test matches
Dale Steyn is praised a lot .
What are you talking about?
@@aniruddhamungekar8663 : I was talking about Kagiso not Dale
No matter what Steyn is greater and faster
All time, James Anderson isn't even top ten all time
Always great content! Just my 2 cents...
It's the imbalance between the BIG 3 and everyone else that shows in the stats and monetary value of the cricket boards. Think of Steyn and how he outplayed Jimmy Anderson his entire career until injury cut it short, with a lot less to show for it. During the ongoing 2nd test (Aus vs Pak Dec. 2023) comm. stated that *Khawaja had faced more balls in the calendar year than the entire SA team...well it helps if you've played a great deal of cricket more than the other teams. *credit to Khawaja though - he has an amazing year
One has to think that IMPACT should be weighed more in terms of averages and SR over an extended amount of time, than solely the amount of wickets taken to consider GREATS of the game. *Again, hats of to the top run getters and wicket takers - much respect
The Steyn and Anderson comment is a bit unfair, Steyn's prime saw SA get a lot of 3/4 test series, rather than the tripe we have now of only 2 match test series for teams outside of England, India and Australia. Anderson's longevity is just unreal, regardless of the finances of the ECB. Steyn's wallet would get topped up by the IPL, four overs every few days, unlike say Courtney Walsh back in the day, who I believe bowled more balls outside of tests than Jimmy and Steyn bowled in their entire careers, just to earn a living.
@@joshforde698 Absolutely, I agree with you with Anderson's longevity🙏, though it was not a big split, 3-5 tests extra a year adds up over time to at least 30+ tests over a career. In terms of finances, it's more about what boards have in their kitty compared to players' income, and what they can do with the development of players, medical side, of things etc. to help players recover and extend their careers.
@@Ricky.Peters There is a bit of truth to that, then again, some people just have bodies which hold up and others break down earlier, regardless of finances, to use tennis as an example, Djokovic has held up much better than Murray and Nadal. Steyn realistically was on his way to being done in 2015 through injuries, Jimmy has maybe started to decline now, but his health record is still good.
@@joshforde698 It is true Mr. Forde, the individual abilities and health of players belong to them and there's only so much science can do. Honestly, I am a bit jealous of what Jimmy can do at his age, but then it would just be really nice to see more test cricket being played amongst all teams to promote the game and the enthusiasm for for it.
Rabada to Anderson to Steyn, and so on...they lived the cricketing lives most of us can only dream of.
Great analysis Jarrod . . . This video also highlights how underrated Vittori was; had to bowl in New Zealand all his life, yet he was the best Batter and Bowler for his team for a long 5 or 6 years period
Please consider doing a video on him
Waqar Younis 😎
Why isnt cummins featured on the graph at 0:16 he has a test strike rate of 47 and over 240 wickets im a bit confused
Because lots of people aren't named on the graph, it's only every 2nd bar that has the name attached. Cummins is the bar between Philander and Holding
Jarrod - What about Vernon Philander at home, I reckon he is a beast
He was the biggest exponent of Wobble 'lottery' ball on extremely helpful bowling conditions. I really dislike the invention of wobble ball in Test cricket, quite ridiculous how a fast bowler can get Wickets without knowing which way the ball will go after pitching. It is like providing personal 4th-5th day Cracks in pitches from day 1.
@@vikranthmelanathur6505 Oh no, the bowlers actually are getting an advantage over batters, someone should stop them!
Philander had been taken buckets of wickets before the so called "wobble" ball became mainstream. He is an exponent of seam bowling and discipline like no one else. He moved the ball by being deadly accurate and angling the seam as he wished, making it deviate off the pitch on landing. It's crazy what he was able to do without pace and bounce - what is essentially the minimum required in South africa. Vernon is a legend.
@vikranthmelanathur6505 I feel you brother. Even I don't like it in cricket when there's a bit of a lottery, unlike in games like table tennis or tennis where you have a lot more control things like spin.
Amazing Bowler
His face reminds me of a grown up baby
Waqar Younis❤
He will surpass Steyn in test
Rabada ❤
Waqar younis best n beast
Good one Jarrod. I have a suggestion to make, please do not combine all the subcontinent nations into Asia while comparing averages (I dislike that part of Statsguru...). Fast bowling in India with SG ball and its prominent seam which assists initial swing, cutters and reverse swing, is not the same as fast bowling on the flat decks of Pakistan, or the turners of Sri Lanka and Bangladesh with Kookubara ball. Indian fast bowlers like Kapil and Srinath have always done well at Home attacking the stumps (Kapil never knew about Reverse swing and Srinath learnt it late into his career), and particularly since 2015 Umesh and Shami have been lethal.
Needless to say the likes of Steyn, Marshall, Hadlee, Walsh, Gillespie and Mcgrath were extremely effective in India compared to other subcontinent nations. I am sure Wasim and Waqar could have done the same but most of Indo-Pak matches were on flat designer decks to ensure draws and the players' necks. Imran was the exception in the 80s but imo that was mostly due to pre-camera bottlecaps...
Wickets!
Where is Cummins?
Stat Dog 🐶 woof woof 😎
not Waqar
first.
Also, great content, keep it up
mahomes